Will a Gas Engine Run on Kerosene? Lets try it! 

Wow! Thanks for sharing this experience. I recall some very tight financial times as a child and those memories are the best.

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Probably Stoddard solvent , bet the fuel system was institutionally clean .

It was probably a chemical like Brakekleen with a high % of naptha, which a car will quite happily run on, and really clean your fuel lines at the same time :)

@@ProjectFarm not good memories being broke in the cold. I think because money was tight growing up, I buy the toys I wanted & wished I had and some I've never used and.others uses a few times. Im.not stingy nor do I deprive myself.of anything

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A lot of old tractors were kerosene burners. John Deere made a lot of them. Changing back over to gasoline before shutting down also helped burn out some of the carbon. The combustion chamber was larger on kerosene engines and if you wanted to convert to gasoline only you had to braze an iron ring into head of each cylinder to raise the compression.

When converting over to vegetable oil as a fuel and living in a cold winter climate you need to follow the same shut down procedure. Of course, veggie oil won't work in Sweden due to the harshness of your winters. I wonder if mixing the oil with gasoline would help to thin the viscosity? (I'm referring to used veg. oil. Fresh would be cost prohibitive.)

same for italy. there are many who currently operate old kerosene engines lombardini but they simply use gas not kerosene anymore(not produced its called petrolio similar as word petrol in england). the advantage of kerosene, if project farm do not know, is that at higher load the engine stand really cooler than when operating with gasoline,

Oh, so that way why they were running! lol

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Kerosene in the senseof Lamp petroleum or jet engine fuel? In English that gets quite confusing. have seen a few trators to be desinged to start on regular petrol and than lamp oil ( petroleum not petrol)

Yeah Kerosene used just be called Tractor fuel.

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They also did it was lawn tractors back in the day. They had a split tank, one side was for gas and the other side was kerosene. They did it because Kerosene was so much cheaper to run. They would start the ending on gas and turn the gas off and turn the kerosene on.

the old "coal oil" as fuel, yep

Yes John Deere tractor fuel. I think it was green. My old 38 Chevy did fine on kerosene because it was low compression. Had to warm it up on gasoline. In the mid 50s kerosene was about 10 cents a gallon. That changed with higher demand because of jet engines using it. The old Ford model T ran good on moon shine or gasoline.probably would run good on kerosene. Grandma called it coal oil. If you stepped on a nail or something with your bare feet.grandma had your foot in a pan of coal oil. We didn't have electric. She had a 55 gallon drum full for lights. About 1951 we got electric. The adults were trying to turn on the lights in the church.They were on ladders trying to turn on the florescent lights. Someone saw this thing on the wall and flipped it on. The lights came on. Then it was praise the Lord.

That's right the starter was my dad's strong arms turning the big heavy fly wheel.

Had a guy that had a steep hill going down to the fields. Coming up the hill the tractor front came up and over killing him. His wife was trying to keep the farm going and also was killed on the hill. Remember my dad getting stuck. When he engaged the clutch the front end came up. When you got the old iron wheels stuck you weren't going any where.

Bought a 51 Farmall H once for 200 bucks It had been sitting in a field for many years. It was converted to propane but the remains of the old oil burning system was still there. Saw a Ford tractor with a Funk Engineering kit that allowed you to put a Ford 6 cylinder car engine in it.. Saw a Flat head Ford V8 in one. Took off like a Mustang.

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@@ProjectFarm Using water with kerosene was actually traditional back in the days of traction engines and before rubber-tyred tractors. Those giant prairie tractors by manufacturers like Rumely Oilpull and Aultman Taylor were sold that way. A book called The Allis Chalmers Story talks about Advance Rumely tractors because AC eventually took over the company in 1931. The book mentions, "The Oilpull engine design used ample quantities of water with the fuel mixture to retard preignition (and the resultant knocking)." They weren't the only manufacturer that did that and this is why those kerosene prairie tractors featured a water tank.

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Even stupid concepts like this?

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I was really surprised it worked so well. By the way, great job on the videos!

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Thank you! I'm amazed at the durability of the Briggs & Stratton too!

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Project Farm, wise words and very true!

In my country kerosene is still cheaper than petrol

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Your English is as good as mine, and I am a US native college grad.

Thank you for the great information. Very informative and also very interesting. Thank you.

Until you fu@# up the valve's or worse from putting water even little drops in a hot running engine.. Next ill read you can always just water your gas down if your low and cant get none and have to drive somewhere.. RU-vid comments are priceless

Russ G I once ran one such engine with white gas in an emergency. Ran more or less normal. I would never run a car on that stuff, though.

I poured about a few cups into a Ninja 650r parallel twin to get me 10 miles. It got me to the store just find under light load. Needed more revs to operate then on normal fuel. Normally I cruise at 80mph a 5k revs.

Miguel Angel Vizuet Mata white gas is another term for unleaded gasoline.

@@greenidguy9292 Not so much. The term "white gas" is more commonly used for such products as lighter fluid, naptha, Coleman stove fuel or other similar products.

@@williamjones4483 well as a former boy scout many years ago we always used unleaded (white gas) in our Coleman lanterns and stoves. Perhaps it depends on what part of the world you live in as to what "white gas" is.

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This is interesting.

Yes, there were several alternative fuels tried. Kerosene was one of the more common, distillate (undrinkable alcohol), was another. Also propane or LPG as it was called at the time. Kerosene and distillate we're used in the same time frame LPG came later 50's and 60's. Now there's an idea, will a gasoline engine run on propane, without the propane fuel system?

Those tractors needed a bit of oil drained and replaced every day due to kerosene working past the rings and thinning crankcase oil. Earlier farm engines and tractors had total loss lubrication. Those earlier engines also used water from the cooling system to prevent detonation. A carburetor would have three parts; starting and warm up gasoline, kerosene for working, and water to prevent knock.

Look up 5 hp Falk and you will see three knobs on top of the carb. Here it is: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-f7XLfYDocRg.html

John deere had water valves on a carburetors that could be opened from the operators position to stop pre-ignition . It used water from the radiator to do this.

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This is great information. Also, thanks for the recommendation to test AVgas 100.

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Used Lawnmower Salesman . " This here mower is the opportunity of a lifetime" Customer " I know, I can hear it knocking" Imagine Mr Haney and Oliver Wendell Douglas in scene!

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Old mechanic guy I know drains the tanks of mixed diesel and gasoline, just adds a liitle more gas to the mix, then runs his vehicle on it.

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@@ProjectFarm would that be because the compression ratio is decreased and an over all lower operating temperature? - I think everyone answering to this test of yours are frustrated petro chemists that took a wrong vocation in life😅

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yep back in the days of ww2 and gasoline was short, parrafin was made from coal (not these days , its refined from oil now) and thus was another source of fuel

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Most of those engines were also very low compression compared to todays engines. Low compression engine on kero would probably not have the problem with predetonation/pinging as in the video.

Simplestatic it also had a spare hand crank for when the battery was dead. If it backfired you'd have to go fish your arm out of the nearest tree.

I also had a 1937 McCormick-Deering Farmall that had the same dual tank setup.

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I'm very farmiliar with that style McCormick deering you refer to. Had a Farmall F12 I was working on for a guy once. I forgot to retard the spark. When I hit the hand crank it kicked me pretty hard

That is why you always pull up on a hand crank and never push down. Lots of people with broken arms will vouche for that.

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Kero is significantly safer. Flash point is much higher, vapor ignition is never an issue, and it's not even very nasty if you get it on your skin. Kero is really quite good stuff. Unfortunately it's more costly than motor fuels. Most engines that can run on kero can run diesel instead, which is cheaper most of the time. Many things that run on Jet-A can also run on good kerosene. And Jet-A will work in kerosene devices. Sometimes useful.

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Or...from people who liked it somewhat, but just don't wish to have more like it in their recommend feed.

Why would a MORE purified gasoline ruin an engine. The higher the octane the better

Kerosene is jet fuel

That’s a pus c engine to break over some kerosene.

A diesel runs on kerosene

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K05 T4R we have ethanol free gas where I live and it's about 75-80 cents more per gallon. Although it wouldn't be practical to do for a V8, I use a simple ethanol separator for making fuel for all my small engines. Basically I add a couple drops of food coloring to a quart of water and vigorously mix it into 5 gallons of gas that contains ethanol, wait for it to settle and siphon off the gas until I get down to the colored water. Because ethanol is hydrophilic, meaning it attracts moisture, all the ethanol is absorbed into the colored water and when separated all you have left is straight gasoline. I've seen this done on a larger scale doing 100s of gallons at a time but that wouldn't be practical for me.

Jon, straight gasohol, good stuff L:

When I was training to operate emission test equipment,we were told by the trainer that in our state captiol the area where emission testing was required ended at the centerline of a street,there fore if a person lived on one side of the street emission test required,other side no test.Unbelieveable unless you remember this is Washington State then it makes perfect sense.

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Yes, I'll try to capture that in a future video.

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Project Farm epic video. If you don’t mind. Some videos please show that small off road car kinda thing. Good video anyways

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@W Winterheart also "jet fuel" and "airplane fuel AVGAS.....are not even close to the same thing

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Jonny DIY I did it with an outboard motor once, when I emptied the tank, refilled with petrol and finally got it started, everything vanished in that white smoke. :-)

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This is a great recommendation! I'll see what I can do.

Run an old 12A rotary on Kerosene

We can learn so much from small engines that it almost seem's pointless to run test on cars.

Back in the early 1980's, we converted a friends old car, an old 1950's British 4 cylinder car, to run on Kerosene. Note that modern Kero is "lighting kerosene" what the old farm tractors ran on in the 1940's etc was a rather different "power kerosene". We disabled the car's original mechanical fuel pump and instead fitted 2 electric fuel pumps with a changeover switch. The main tank was filled with kerosene and small extra tank (located by the drivers legs !) held about 2 litres/half a gallon of petrol (gasoline) used for starting and warming up. We first used 6 feet/2metres of copper fuel line and wrapped it around the exhaust manifold and the exhaust header pipe, then linked it with a Y or Tee piece to the carb's normal fuel inlet. the car ran but "very awfully", so we added another 6 feet/2 metres of copper fuel line pipe, wrapped around the exhaust manifold, and it was much improved. Start the car and get up to speed and warmth on petrol/gasoline, then flick the switch, the first bit of (cold) kero stuck in the short length of fuel line just before the carburettor doesn't burn much and the car farts around and loses speed, but once the pre-heated kero reaches the carb, it burns satisfactorily, although barely so. A substantial kerosene smell was behind the car and we never got tail-gaters, we retarded the ignition slightly (easy with the old points and distributor systems).

Might be more possible with a diesel. The sadistic trio compression heat ignition

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and yes, the idea was to run petrol until you got the engine warmed up

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