@@michaelzheng3129 the tunnel made scratches because it didn’t use any prewash programme under high water pressure to lift off some dust and dirt but instead went straight for the shampoo and brushes which is a recipe for swirl marks
As a detailer I obviously new what was going to happen. But to see the before and after shots and to have it all in one video is awesome. Awesome video! Lots of detailers will and should reference this video to help customers understand the real reality of a car wash after a paint correction and or ceramic coating. Great content guys 🙂
Well most people don't have a detail garage with floor drains to wash their cars and by the looks of the weather on the day of your shooting I doubt many are doing a driveway job either! :) A real good tip for everyone who wants to minimize the possibility of damage from car wash brushes is to ask for a "full wrap retract" from the attendant. This option flows all the good suds over your car and minimizes or eliminates contact from the evil spinning brushes. Great option for someone who keeps their car clean but needs a wash. Oh and yeah, that tire shine option must NOT be a part of your options at purchase YUK! Great channel guys!
I truly appreciate the level of work you put into making the car perfect and then risking it all just for our education. This is such a great video and I truly appreciate it.
I use to hand wash my 96 Corolla once a week back in the 2010s. Now that I have more money and a 2020 honda insight, I just go to the car wash twice a week because I'm lazy and always like my car being clean. If I ever start to notice swirls and if it bothers me enough, I'll just get a paint correction.
Taking one for the team with your new car, that's what makes you a leader in the detailing community. Irrefutable proof that people are paying to have their vehicles punished and destroyed from lack of education and understanding. Awesome series of videos man, looking forward to more. Contradulations on the new ride as well.😎👍🏻
I was in the full svc carwash & detail business for about 20yrs. I can tell you that each operator has a different idea of how to treat their customer. Some are very educated in the best, safest products, procedures and equipment to use and some not so much. I saw quite a few things in that tunnel that made me cringe and knew what was going to happen. If you do care that much about your 2nd biggest investment (usually) of your life, find a good operator or learn to do it yourself. Also as devils advocate, not all self proclaimed detailers know what they are doing either. Love the channel and what you do.
@@windycitystig3680 Some don't. I've clayed and waxed my car back in August. Wax is still on it even going through the same touchless wash 1 or 2 times a week.
Some do some dont. My local touchless wont even remove all the dirt. Yesterday i used Koch Chemmi Green Star at 10:1 and sprayed down my whole jeep before running it through. It was 80-90% clean. I finished with Mckees sio2 waterless wash. Surprised how well it came out.
@@socialjusticewarrior9601 hard to say if that’s your wax still holding up or another chemical. Touch less car washes apply a “drying aid” chemical to the vehicle just before the blowers to create water behavior and help assist in drying the vehicle by forced air. If it wasn’t for this chemical the water would just blur around on the surface instead of blowing clean on vehicles without protection. It is mostly expected of these types of washes that the chemicals are so strong most sealants and even some coatings do get attacked by their wash process.
All brand new cars come with swirls and holograms in the paint. The factory washes them, they get shipped, wrapped, bumped, washed at the dealership etc. I would also think a “detailer” would know the difference between a “scratch” and a hologram in the paint. Holograms and spider webbing can come from hand washing too.
You are speaking to the choir ..... plus he cleaned up the car and even admitted to their being scratches before hand and buffed them out so he’s admitting to pre-existing damage that he detailed to get it ready for the wash process . No car is really perfect like you said . Even those hand washing do a lot of damage
Many of the regular tunnel car washes give you the option of touch or touchless. I find touchless car washes to be terrible at getting the car clean. You need the scrubbing action to dislodge the dirt. The felt pads are far better than the blue brushes they used years ago. Regardless of whether you choose touch, touchless, or wash it yourself, it's just a matter of time before any perfectly polished car needs to be polished again.
I pretreat with close to the same ph level as a touchless before every wash and I only do that to clean as much off the car as I can before a contact wash, I also add protection after every wash so anything that is lost in protection is added back after the wash. The only real downside to non contact washes is it seems to leave a film especially if it adds a wax at the end.
From my experience a touchless wash doesn't scratch, but the detergent eats away at coatings and doesn't even get the car very clean. I use it mostly for the undercarriage wash in the winter but then make sure to find a warm day so I can use a waterless wash after with about 40 microfiber towels and put a spray coating back on at least. I clean the wheels with a typical wheel bucket and pump sprayer in the winter. Wheels and tires have to be done like a typical hand wash. For waterless wash I really love Ammo Frothe I have to say.
@@irocvert8728 On cold and extremely salty areas, I'd say running your car through a touchless every couple of weeks to get rid of the excess salt is the "lesser evil" if you can't properly hand-wash often, eh?
@@Orangetilt Yes, absolutely... and if its above freezing I use the Ammo NYC Frothe waterless wash with microfibers to get it really clean and put a topper on it. Touchless is the lesser of automatic wash evils...
Light colored cars are best for a car wash like this scratches are much harder to even notice but yep dark cars show the scratches way more. Most people don't care about such hard to notice fine scratches but for people that do hand wash only for sure.
Amazing the scratches after 1 wash. I was taking my car thru twice a week for 3 months before I came to CAP. No wonder my "new" car looked so bad. Thanks for the education.
Crazy how much damage from just one wash! I’d be interested to see what the difference a “touchless” wash would make. I don’t have an option to wash my vehicles indoors.
Once I saw those rotating side brushes coming for your new Tesla it was like fingernails scratching across a chalkboard. I was cringing inside and I could hardly stand it. Even more damage to the paint than I ever imagined. Thank you for showing this to us.
How do touchless carwashes compare to the tunnel carwash that you used in this video? Is there any chance that you would do a video on one of those? Thanks for your videos. I am learning a lot. Keep up the great work!
Brave man! It’s always reassuring knowing you can fix the car wash damage. Sadly when you live in a winter wonderland, keeping the road salt off your car comes first and paint correction and detailing are reserved for the good weather. Love your detailing video content. Can’t wait to drive down to give you some work! Hope the borders open soon! Stay safe and healthy.👍🇨🇦
I take my hat off to you for doing this video, a great advertisement for not using poor washing methods. Are you going to show before and after on the safe method of washing?
Great video and not unexpected results. Would have liked to see some more comparison of the coated vs uncoated areas. Curious how much protection the ceramic really offered.
Damn they should come up with a paint that doesn’t get scratch so easily, the only way not to get scratches is not drive it and garage kept. Even leaving outside only will get scratches by the elements. Thanks for the research about how paints are so delicate, much appreciated.
I got lazy and almost took my Challenger through one yesterday. In front of me was a jeep covered in an inch of caked on mud and a ram covered in what looked like brake dust. So I turned around and washed it at my house. Swirl Free...
@@clutchthepearls3062 only issue is that with all the snow and salt the car is pretty filthy to me to use that and it’s only in the single digits for the high.
srt4booster Go to do-it-yourself wash when above freezing only, don’t use the brush. If you must use use the brush clean if first with the high pressure wand
I always watched your videos without being subscribed because they were always on the front page but this video just made me sub. Thanks for the great content👍
@@ChicagoAutoPros I might be wrong but I think that Tesla updated their terms and conditions to void warranty if you take your car through a tunnel carwash since it can mess up the sensors?
I’m glad i watched this video because i was planning on taking my new black truck through on of those cars washes . Living here in Canada it’s almost winter and to prevent my water pipes from bursting my out side water source is shut off now . therefore i can’t wash my truck at home right now . In the past i’ve always done the touch less car wash but i notice the last time my truck wasn’t even clean after spending almost $20 . So now I go to a pressure washer type car wash and use a soft car wash mitt during the winter months
I'm familiar with this cash wash, they use plastic bristles. If possible on a future video you could try Delta Sonic or Fullers, they both are soft touch cloth instead of plastic. To see if the soft touch makes a difference. They are both in the area as well.
Thanks so much for doing this. It's good to see some real world stuff rather than watching water beading all the time. Disappointing that the ceramic coating didn't protect better, but it was in line with my experiences of it's scratch protection which are definitely over-hyped by many manufacturers.
As a detailer myself, I've found that in Chicago the Delta Sonic car tunnel washes don't have the spinning brushes, and in my experience haven't induced terrible swirls onto my car. Even after a polish.
Great video..here is a good one. I brought my perfectly clean car to the dealership for an oil change. After paying the invoice I went outside only to find it had been washed and all the water drops were now frozen on the body and windows. I headed straight to my local wand wash to take off all the ice crystals.
I like how you are driving your brand new Tesla on winter roads with the salt and sand used for the snow traction just coating your car and are so concerned about what the car wash is a bout to do to your electric toy. Cheers!
Yeah the problem with those though are that they use such strong detergents to get the stuff off the paint which strips was and even some paint sealants
I'd like to know Jason's thoughts on touchless car washes. I remember from the recent F11 demonstration video on the Car Supplies Warehouse channel he said they use pretty harsh chemicals. Can you all do a video taking about touchless car wash?
For your next experiment take it to a brushless car wash. I feel they do just as much damage without the brushes. I took my truck to ne because i was lazy and it was so dirty.. Now I see tons of scratch marks in the silver paint.
Thanks for that 👌. You did paint protection on my C8 and I’ll definitely avoid car washes!🤑 I had a separate question, is it better to leave a car dirty if I don’t have time to do a nice careful hand washing? Less frequent careful cleaning versus more frequent quick washes?
For an honest comparison, you should do the same, taking it through a full-service wash and a hand wash. I’ve personally experienced the same results after a hand wash.
I’ve seen all kinds of torture tests of products on YT but this takes the cake. Couldn’t you have used an old ass Volvo or something instead of ruining your brand new car. Lol!!
A guy wearing a "Modesta" jacket asking a random tunnel wash guy, if the process is going to scratch his brand new car's paint...lol...so surreal...hahahaha!!!! You are the man Jason...!!!
Exactly that is why I always prefer to wash my car by myself and even same situation with the basic maintenance stuffs. Not everybody’s take care of things as if they were yours.
Dramatic! Often wonder if it's the brushes themselves that cause the scratches or the fact that they will have dirt from previous cars on them. You are right though, most people don't seem that bothered, it's exactly the same here in the UK. Good video and a hell of a sacrifice.
I thought about taking my 2000 Toyota Camry LE through a car wash myself but haven't. The other owners have. There are scratches on the Camry. I'm trying to undo what hasn't been done. Thanks for the video.
I think responders would need more info, such as what "winter" means to you. Winter in the north with snow? Are the roads salted? Winter in the mid states where it's just kinda cold and rainy? Winter in the south where it's "cold" if it drops below 60°F? Or is the question, "Is a touchless wash better than simply leaving the car 'dirty'?" Or is the question, "Is there any way a touchless wash could potentially scratch/damage my paint?"
Touchless washes use some degreaser to clean the car.. over time that may eat through any protection you have esp wax and sealants. I just rinse my car with a pressure washer to get the salt off. Bucket wash on the warmer days
@@evolution2001 In my case, winter as in between -5°F to 32°F for months straight in New England, so you if you try to hand wash the car, it will turn to ice before you can rinse the soap off. I clean my own in the summer but I just took it to the touchless car wash today.
I’m really digging all the new videos that really go in depth with products and etc. Thanks again for you and Greg and Justin for putting together awesome hands on team building meeting today. So happy to be apart of this company/family. This company is straight up legit and the real deal. Love you guys🤘
Painful to watch!! I’ve already shared this with multiple people showing how important it is to educate yourself and do it right by doing it yourself! Thanks for the video!
Wisconsin salty roads really do a number on cars in the winter. I pre spray with ONR to rinse off the salt, dirt, sand first then do a rinseless wash in the garage. I need a drain in my garage floor so I can whip out the pressure washer for an undercarriage wash once in a while though. I’d it’s really dirty I’ll take it to a coin op wash bay and blast all the loose contaminants off and drive it home to finish the job.
The weather has been so horrible here in NY with dirty snow and rain that I've had to use the auto car wash once this year and I already regretted it b4, but NOW! NOW!!!!! I'm pissed!!!!! Lol can't wait till the weather allows me to put the time in from this bull crap winter.
Thanks Jason. Great video. You’re teaching us something very useful. I really appreciate the real world education. I have a client with your model Tesla but luckily it’s white so a lot easier to work with.
I bought a black Edge that was a retired rental car. They ran it through machine washes for years and it looks terrible lol. It will be a pretty easy fix with a 2 step correction though.
