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Will Another Adelson Get Indicted in the Dan Markel Murder? 

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#STSNation,
Welcome to another episode of Surviving The Survivor, the podcast that brings you the #BestGuests in all of True Crime…
We dive back into the #DanMarkel murder case.
He’s the Harvard-educated FSU Law Professor gunned down in his Tallahassee driveway back in 2014. Two hitmen and a go-between are already convicted of the crime and in prison.
Ex-brother-in-law Charlie Adelson sits in jail awaiting his murder trial. ***A TRIAL DATE NOW SET FOR OCTOBER 23***
Could other Adelsons be indicted in the meantime?
One career military lawyer and legal mind believes there are at least 125 reasons right now why Wendi Adelson could be charged.
Tennessee
Our #BestGuests are here to break it all down:
LTC (Ret) Carl Steinbeck, a nearly 30 year Judge Advocate for the U.S. Army Judge Advocate General’s Corps and combat veteran, now zealously represents military Service Members and Department of Defense Civilian Employees across the globe in fighting for their justice matters. The Steinbeck Law Firm PLLC is honored to represent trial advocacy matters for those highly valued individuals that serve in our Nation’s defense.
Hosts his own RU-vid channel Jury Trial Mentor with his brother John Steinbeck -
Famed Tallahasse Defense Attorney R. Timothy Jansen is a partner in the firm Jansen & Davis…he has handled complex Civil, Administrative and Criminal Litigation s, first as Chief Trial Counsel for the Secretary of State of Florida, Tallahassee, handling both complex Civil and Criminal matters.
He also spent 5 years as a federal prosecutor. No one knows the Tallahassee legal community better than Tim.
John D. Singer - is Co Founder of, Singer Deutsch LLP and graduate of Georgetown Law
Mr. Singer was designated as a "New York Super Lawyer" in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019,
Singer makes regular appearances as a legal analyst for CNBC and a gazillion other outlets
#JusticeForDanMarkel #TrueCrime #FSU #TrueCrimeCommunity #Podcast #Podcasting #Florida

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@aprilove-xoxo
@aprilove-xoxo 10 месяцев назад
Who’s rewatching this, after Charlie’s conviction!! 🎉 justice prevails! ❤️
@AidaShawJ.D.
@AidaShawJ.D. 6 месяцев назад
Definitely me!! It’s interesting to see their predictions after CA is convicted and Donna is arrested and headed to trial soon!
@bugsea54
@bugsea54 Год назад
I say arrest Wendy! This is the oldest trick in the book. Getting others to do her dirty work. Im not buying her family, blah, blah, blah. When my son got married, he told me straight up, butt out. My son was 23. I was very proud of him that he put me in my place and put his marriage to his wife first. Her divorce was between her and Dan and she used her family to help get her way.
@darrenbest5402
@darrenbest5402 3 месяца назад
Love how you actually listened to your son and saw the importance of his relationship with his wife as number 1 …… hard to do but it’s the right thing to do. Cheers Yes arrest Wendy lol
@pearlskid8425
@pearlskid8425 Год назад
STS is my life line for doing boring chores like, cooking, laundry, dishes etc….It’s so awesome having company.
@daisywares1
@daisywares1 6 месяцев назад
Same lol
@dadsarepeopletoo3785
@dadsarepeopletoo3785 5 месяцев назад
I call it my emotional support background noise.
@CBMcDI
@CBMcDI Год назад
Mr. Singer is wrong about the reason that Wendi gave the "no-contact" order to Jeff Lacasse. It wasn't to prevent her from saying too much, it was to create a reason that he might've been driven to murder. She even suggested it in the police interview with Craig Isom. It's idiotic, but it makes sense in the Adelsons' narcissist minds. "He was so upset at being without me, and so upset at Danny for hurting me, that he was driven to murder. Yeah, they'll buy it." She didn't speak to Danny right before his murder because she might've had a moment of humanity, and had second thoughts. So, she phased him out before the murder.
@Globelle
@Globelle Год назад
I think it was both. Kinda kill 2 birds with 1 stone
@lettheriver
@lettheriver 9 месяцев назад
Her mom picked Dan bc he was Jewish my guess to sire the kids. Job done. Need someone to blame jeff done. Next
@jeanleigh185
@jeanleigh185 9 месяцев назад
Also Wendi is the only one that knew Dan's schedule, you think hit men are going to drive that far and hope they find him, Charlie could have given address, but Charlie would not have know schedule with out Wendi
@AidaShawJ.D.
@AidaShawJ.D. 6 месяцев назад
You’re speculating, just like John Singer. Do, don’t say he’s wrong. He’s simply opining.
@iveliserojas612
@iveliserojas612 5 месяцев назад
@@lettheriverit what I say she never loved Dan the mom picked him because he had a good job was a lawyer had to make she had kids she never loved do anyone get annoyed by Tim always saying but the got no proof
@geilasmith7643
@geilasmith7643 7 месяцев назад
I love 💕💕 Carl Steinbeck, his insight and wisdom regarding this case is absolutely some of the best!
@mauiswift6391
@mauiswift6391 Год назад
I love how these guests can disagree with one another respectfully!
@idontremember-zh1nx
@idontremember-zh1nx 8 месяцев назад
sort of respectfully . I still hear all of the hidden comments / Pun intended
@geilasmith7643
@geilasmith7643 7 месяцев назад
​@@idontremember-zh1nxyeah, Tim Jansen....
@iveliserojas612
@iveliserojas612 5 месяцев назад
@@geilasmith7643ok why in every show he say the same they don’t have enough to put Wendi in jail why when Carl has 100 and more reason he’s a Wendi fan and I believe he helping Wendi lawyers
@Ghalia13
@Ghalia13 Год назад
Sadly, we have been hearing about her potential indictment for so long yet no action has been taken. It’s been almost 10 years and that evil witch and her despicable even more evil mother have been roaming freely when they deserve a death sentence
@Globelle
@Globelle Год назад
I can tell you feel as passionately as I do about it. I did not know Dan but it sure feels like I did!!! This case has become SO PERSONAL TO ME!!!
@No-smokin7
@No-smokin7 11 месяцев назад
Shame how florida ppl loves to be in control,and if it don't go their way,they start hating,thinking how 2voo-doo,or get someone to assassinate ppl.
@Asidebar
@Asidebar 10 месяцев назад
The State needs evidence to present to a jury to convict her! What evidence is there to show she was involved?
@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage
@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage 10 месяцев назад
​@@MM-qp4pdshe's almost a redhead but truth be known her hair is probably dark like Charlie's
@littlesmith5005
@littlesmith5005 9 месяцев назад
​@@MM-qp4pd I don't see a blonde hair on her head.. you must be black. I know. We all look alike to you! Lol
@TheCatquillen
@TheCatquillen Год назад
Please! Send Wendi and her mom to PRISON!
@iveliserojas612
@iveliserojas612 6 месяцев назад
Yeah anit no way she didn’t no 1 she went to he’s place of he’s death the TV alibi when her boyfriend said he buy her a tv and she said no and the bf car match he’s and everything her bf stated that Wendi hated Dan
@dadsarepeopletoo3785
@dadsarepeopletoo3785 5 месяцев назад
Your wish has halfway come true since this original air date
@shivani41
@shivani41 Год назад
Dan Markel's two sons are old enough by now to be personally investigating what happened to their father. On July 29th, the firstborn son turns fourteen. The younger son was born in 2010, so the two brothers are quite close in age. I mention this due to experience, as a crime occurred within my family when I was eight years old. This was long before there was the convenience of the internet being an endless encyclopedia, for sifting through information. By the time I was the age that Dan Markel's younger son is now, "private investigation" all about what had happened was already thoroughly self-propelled, regardless of how many untruths were kept afloat. There is a primal need to understand and to know what is true and what isn't. Really, there is. I'll bet that these boys have been looking into their tragic early-childhood circumstances for several years by now and learned early on to keep their hunger to find the truth AWAY from their surrounding "grown-ups." Also, rather notably this evening, Mr. Singer said that Wendi is a sociopath. That observation of his wasn't given any response by Joel or the other two fellows, but it really does appear that Wendi's mother (etc.) launched a pair of conscienceless, bitter kookies who've followed in Mommie Dearest's footsteps, plus one son who managed to get away from the family entirely. I hope that Dan Markel's sons are fortunate enough to have someone close to them who is genuinely trustworthy and have faith that their dad is watching over them. Their forced separation from their father has been too cruel. Bless those boys and may they have strength and fortitude.
@iveliserojas612
@iveliserojas612 Год назад
Yeah but I’m sure the had brainwashed them
@mariaskinnider115
@mariaskinnider115 Год назад
Hopefully their wonderful paternal grandparents will finally be allowed into their lives and be able to offer some semblance of normality and give them the pure love every child deserves.
@taylorburton7820
@taylorburton7820 Год назад
I am sorry you had a bad family experience. You are not alone; remember that. I am very concerned for the two Markel boys; not only because of the incredibility tragic, traumatic, and distorted "reality" in which they live, but also because I fear for their safety for this reason (which I don't even like to mention, but it has to be said so as to prevent it via intervention): Now that Charlie's about to be sent to prison for life (which he will be once his trial concludes), and Donna and Wendi will likely be indicted, and Harvey is 80+ y.o., the Adelsons will have lost everything and will be complete social outcasts (if not already). With nothing more to lose, and given their vindictiveness and murderousness so far, what is keeping them from committing total familial murder/suicide in order to: 1) avoid their upcoming fates, 2) prevent the Markels from having custody of the two boys, and 3) very sickly "saving" the boys from further pain?
@baker_canner
@baker_canner Год назад
The thought of harming another person is horrifying to me. What does it take for an entire family save one to agree that it is OK to take the life of another person? It's off the charts awful.
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Год назад
❤🙏
@AidaShawJ.D.
@AidaShawJ.D. 6 месяцев назад
Pathology of psychopathy. I believe!
@jeanleigh185
@jeanleigh185 9 месяцев назад
Explain to me how the hit men would know Dan's schedule if not for Wendi? She is the only one that would know, so why is she still walking around free?
@clairegordon8765
@clairegordon8765 Год назад
Joel is hands down best on you tube for True Crime so informative with his questions and the guests are always top notch
@jimf.9251
@jimf.9251 Год назад
I have a feeling that the entire “profer”, Katie’s defense, Tara Kawass’ “passion” for defending Katie are all a sham. Let’s not forget they did not want to reveal who paid for Katie’s defense, and the fact that DaCoste, Kawass, and Rashbaum are all listed under the same business address. Charlie’s and Wendi’s defense will be to blame it on Katie and say that “hey, she even offered a proffer and the state didn’t think it was enough”. Katie will be the scapegoat and she is so stupid that she doesn’t realise it. She is still represented by Kawass and DaCoste for crying out loud. Wake up Katie! And wake up Sigfredo too!
@floralee4699
@floralee4699 9 месяцев назад
Katie is evil to the core. No proffer should be offered to her. I honestly think she didn't reveal much to Charlie about the hitmen, tuto and tato.
@lindsayshea
@lindsayshea Год назад
Love when we discuss the Dan Markel case… that’s what got me hooked ❤
@2034916
@2034916 Год назад
They’re gentlemen and the best their field has to offer. All attorneys should be so gracious, ethical and well-spoken. I say that with experience, as I worked in a courtroom and had to interact with attorneys for 39 years.
@allisonhogg5131
@allisonhogg5131 Год назад
One day her boys with grow into intelligent young and they will find out the circumstances surrounding their fathers murder and will start to question what really happened. A loving mother and family would not do this. Justice for Dan.
@Williamb612
@Williamb612 Год назад
Yes…whilst eating lox and bagels
@muthaship2992
@muthaship2992 10 месяцев назад
Very selfish especially Donna
@aando4951
@aando4951 Год назад
Wendi would never take the witness stand in her own defense. She is a lawyer after all and surely knows that would be suicide.
@lindalawton5399
@lindalawton5399 Год назад
I believe Donna will very likely be arrested close to the trial, and upset everyone’s apple cart.
@Christy-.
@Christy-. Год назад
ARREST WENDI & DONNA ADELSON !! Great episode guys 👏🏼⭐️👑
@Christy-.
@Christy-. Год назад
@@mcnugs7648 yes, if charged with first degree murder.
@norffyesquivel3440
@norffyesquivel3440 Год назад
Arrest Dona and Wendi!!!! They part of the complot to kill Dany.
@2034916
@2034916 Год назад
When even brilliant attorneys agree that there is enough evidence to arrest Donna and Wendi, I have trouble understanding WHY they haven’t been taken into custody.
@Globelle
@Globelle Год назад
​@@mcnugs7648I hope!!! My dream is to see Wendi and Donna in matching mugshots.
@iveliserojas612
@iveliserojas612 5 месяцев назад
No Tim Wendi fan say they don’t have enough if they did why haven’t the arrested is that dumb because as u see Georgia go one by one Tim u don’t no what Georgia what is he’s deal saying all the time that not proof to a-rest her
@Angela-xo5kh
@Angela-xo5kh Год назад
Outstanding panel of guests. Can't wait for the next installment. Joel, you're a gracious and humorous host. America loves you back! #STS Nation
@iveliserojas612
@iveliserojas612 5 месяцев назад
Not really because Tim is a Wendi fan he’s really annoying me saying no proof u so really many ppl have gone to jail with less proof he sound so dum the alibi tv that she had for week her bf wanted to buy her she didn’t her tv repair coming the day of the murder her going to Dan home after 12 and the text between the time u see him making excuses just listen him shutting down everything
@princesssarah7336
@princesssarah7336 Год назад
Always my favorite panel!
@Turtle-vx2uz
@Turtle-vx2uz Год назад
The reason she bought Bulleit bourbon isn’t bc she was trying to be able to say “why would I do that if I did it so I must be innocent.” It is bc she thinks she’s too smart to get caught and found it poetic to drop hints. Fanciful fiction, if you will. Have you read Gone Girl? It has her MO written all over it. She’s THAT type of woman.
@slydog1227
@slydog1227 10 месяцев назад
My thoughts exactly! It was funny to her to celebrate his killing with a little "Bulleit". Out of all the bourbons in the world to buy, directly after the killing, on a drive by the crime scene she goes by the house and buys "Bulleit"? This wasn't a coincidence, it was another shot at Dan.
@alexib2070
@alexib2070 10 месяцев назад
didn’t somebody send her a text to get that specific Borboun to stock a bar at a party?
@MonGeezy
@MonGeezy 10 месяцев назад
EXACTLY! She thought this little detail would be something she could privately reflect on, and think fondly of. This woman was a creative writer. She has an expansive imagination. The ‘Bullet’ bourbon detail sounds like it’s right out of a novel… a novel she wanted to write!
@elindemier
@elindemier 9 месяцев назад
The invitation to the party asked her to buy bullit bourbon. Just a coincidence
@lydialutz
@lydialutz 9 месяцев назад
Yes, I feel like this was the one true coincidence in the case. Whereas the other things that could be written off as coincidences really don't have any reason to be dismissed. The alcohol type can be dismissed as not related because somebody asked her for that specific kind. (However, i have seen some suggest the note to get that specific bourbon was fabricated. Perhaps just a rumor and a true coincidence.) Charlie definitely sprung on this too excitedly during his trial, almost like "See! See! a coincidence can happen just like that bourbon coincidence." cringe.@@alexib2070
@penny5245
@penny5245 Год назад
I cannot believe she has not been charged. I am counting the days. I cannot wait she deserves to go to prison.😢
@dadsarepeopletoo3785
@dadsarepeopletoo3785 5 месяцев назад
Hopefully she's not sleeping very well these days
@lisapully9274
@lisapully9274 Год назад
How many of you have had laryngitis? 🖐️ I don't know about you all but, from the start of my voice slowly beginning to getting voice crack worse (1-4 days), to having no voice at all (2-3 days long), to getting my voice back (4-5 days). That's ALMOST 2 weeks. Wendi is lying, she KNEW and was all behind Dan's murder.
@Globelle
@Globelle Год назад
I am a bartender and I work with laryngitis that I get 2 times a year to where I can barely talk. Also Wendy was able to communicate with her friend that set her up with Jeffrey talking for hours about how crazy Jeffrey was acting so where was her Laryngitis then?
@dadsarepeopletoo3785
@dadsarepeopletoo3785 5 месяцев назад
So convenient that she just happened to have laryngitis during that critical week. Yea right. Eye roll....
@victoriagodley5277
@victoriagodley5277 9 месяцев назад
I respect and appreciate Carl’s analysis of this serious case. Poor Dan, a decent dedicated father and son.
@AlpacaRenee
@AlpacaRenee Год назад
Great panel Joel! I’ve learned that even when I know nothing about the case, it’ll always be interesting. I do my chores and feed my alpacas listening to y’all. ❤️
@downtherabbitholes4714
@downtherabbitholes4714 Год назад
Wendi Adelson was an Atty with her husband (murder victim Attorney Dan Markel). Wendi was very jealous of Dan because of his brains and education. He had a law degree from Harvard. When she wanted to divorce him she wanted full custody of their 2 boys to move back to Miami. When that didn't happen (allegedly) her brother hired thugs from Miami to kill him. Motive: Wendi wanted to move back to her hometown: the Miami area. Plus, Dan had active motions in the court that would have been heard a few weeks after his murder. One motion was to have Wendi's mother have supervised visits and another was about Wendi's fraudulent financial affidavits. Wendi Adelson's family, brother Charlie, mother Donna, and father Harvey have some part in the planning and paying for the murder. Charlie is being held in jail for his upcoming trial this Oct/Nov. Three of the hired hitmen are already tried and are in prison. Wendi has only allowed very limited visits for Dan's parents to see their 2 grandsons since the murder in 2014. The speculative reasons for denial of visitations: the boys may spill beans about what they know; the Adelsons don't want the boys learning any truth about the murder of the father.
@AlpacaRenee
@AlpacaRenee Год назад
@@downtherabbitholes4714 thank you for the summary. Now I’ll have to go back and binge-listen to the case😉
@Mmee298
@Mmee298 Год назад
One of my favorite panels! God bless you, Joel! ❤
@beliasanders7984
@beliasanders7984 9 месяцев назад
I agree Wendi uses people, I don’t think she loves anyone even her kids are just “things” she uses as she wants!
@dadsarepeopletoo3785
@dadsarepeopletoo3785 5 месяцев назад
She doesn't have friends, she has followers. She's horrible
@PrimetimeKCL
@PrimetimeKCL Год назад
Joel, I'm listening (on re-play), you have peaked my interest in the Dan Markel case! I hope they are able to get convictions on all Adelson's who are guilty, including Wendi!! And, I'm a true fan and avid watcher of Surviving the Survivor - fantastic show!! I just can't always catch it Live, especially lately. But I'm watching, enjoying, and recommending it to others!!
@kellyhensley690
@kellyhensley690 Год назад
Another great episode! Thanks STS!
@T.Hang11
@T.Hang11 Год назад
Carl broke a smile when John spoke about the wife stuff...🤣
@cliff.frankenberger
@cliff.frankenberger Год назад
I saw that too... I hope he didn’t pull a facial muscle. Carl is a good egg, I enjoy listening to him... We got to get him loosen up a bit... maybe he should have a couple cocktails before the next show :)
@Globelle
@Globelle Год назад
​@@cliff.frankenberger I love him and I think that he's just so passionate about this and disgusted with the fact that they are getting away with this
@cliff.frankenberger
@cliff.frankenberger Год назад
@@Globelle I agree... He’s a military guy and he’s just super focused when discussing this serious case. I bet you Carl was the type of guy that danced on tables and closed down the bars when he was out with the boys... Carl and his brother are a good pairing. I may not agree w/ everything they say, but I listen, and they are coming from a good place. Two good men.
@Tennisgirl101
@Tennisgirl101 Год назад
How do you do it??? Truly best guests anywhere! Always
@ryanb7II
@ryanb7II Год назад
If I were an Adelson, I'd plant myself on a show like this, pretending to be against her, but simultaneously defend her, and promote her interests. I'd even say that she's a bad, shady, lying, evil person - but I'd able to push the overall narrative that she can't actually be convicted. 🤔
@iveliserojas612
@iveliserojas612 Год назад
She changed the kids name like her name is any better
@gabrielamartiniuc6322
@gabrielamartiniuc6322 Год назад
Those poor kids 😢. I didn’t realize there were so many narcissistic people out there. I was married to one, and these murderers are so similar in their thinking and behaviors !! Frightening!!
@oh_k8
@oh_k8 Год назад
Doesn't Wendi claim the narcissist is Dan?
@iveliserojas612
@iveliserojas612 Год назад
I’m sure the mother of Wendi has brainwashed them saying dad was abusive to mom etc etc
@iveliserojas612
@iveliserojas612 Год назад
@@oh_k8and everyone stated he was the sweetest person her parents are narcissistic she is narcissistic
@tonybarden9187
@tonybarden9187 11 месяцев назад
Wendy seems like the great manipulator, a narcissist in fact, her testimony too smug, her wild staring eyes, she convinced her brother that her ex was a monster.
@SuccessOutsider
@SuccessOutsider 11 месяцев назад
This is how it went down on the day of the murder. Wendi has knowledge from Dan that after he drops the kids off and been to the gym, that she and Dan are going to talk about something to do with the kids schooling, this is important information for Wendi because she needs to know his preplanned route runs are actuated on the day the Adelsons planned to have him killed. Once this is confirmed to Wendi she calls best buy, but best buy only have Donna's mothers number on her accounts, so they call Donna. Thia part right here was to covertly notify Donna that Dan's movements that morning are confirmed and to take action your (Donna's ) end. Once Donna had greenlit this info to Charlie, Donna then went on to covertly communicate to Wendi that "its on" by organising the TV repairman to visit wendi's house, also providing her with an alibi. Well thought out in the fact that no incriminating evidence was in any conversation between Wendi and Donna, but the word TV was used as code by Donna to Charlie, 2 years later during the bump, a time when they thought they'd gotten away with it.
@Bunnybella765
@Bunnybella765 Год назад
Georgetown…My old stomping ground before NYC. Knew tons of lawyers. My army reserve unit was under the bridge in Old Town Alexandria. I drove Mike Boats for the army on the Potomac river right there at the capital. 88kilo. It was super fun. Day job…manicurist lol
@TKE1009
@TKE1009 Год назад
It's very difficult to choose a favorite STS panel because you REALLY do have the best guests, all of the time. However, if I was forced to choose - this panel is absolutely phenomenal, love them all and will never give up hope that both Wendi and Donna will eventually be arrested for their "alleged" conspiratorial contributions in the plot to murder Dan. Justice for Dan Markel!🤞💫
@MonGeezy
@MonGeezy 10 месяцев назад
I love that this channel covers in-depth content on Wendi. I believe there is an abundance of evidence to convince me that she is guilty of murder beyond a reasonable doubt. Shine the spotlight, guys!
@FLOWER-rl7nh
@FLOWER-rl7nh Год назад
YES GEORGIA, GET WENDI...YOU'RE A COOL LADY AND A VERY GOOD 👍 PROSECUTOR, WENDI IS GUILTY AS HELL!!..SHE'S ALWAYS TRYING TO BE INNOCENT...THE FACT THAT SHE IS A LAWYER DOESN'T MEANT THAT SHE CAN GET AWAY WITH MURDER,,,IT IS NOT SO MUCH THAT DHE LISTENED TO THE MOTHER,SHE JUST HAD A ONE YRACK MIND ...TO STAY CLOSE TO HER FAMILY,IF SHE'S A LAWYER SHE'S SMART ENOUGH 👌 👍 TO DECIDE FOR HERSELF..SHE'S JUST ACTING STUPID CHILDISH INNOCENT!!!
@Globelle
@Globelle Год назад
Unfortunately it's not up to Georgia but I wish it were
@Missyrocks53
@Missyrocks53 Год назад
Great video again. Great panel. Windsor is extremely handsome 🐶
@Krystal_Kleer
@Krystal_Kleer Год назад
I can't wait for October. We have both the Adelson and Kohberger trials to look forward to. Halloween, Football, World Series, NBA and two highly anticipated trials!! 🧛‍♂️🦇🧹🏈🧢⚾🏀⛹🏾⚖️⚖️ Whoo Hoo!! 😂😂
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Год назад
Plus... Shanna Gardner's extradition. 🎉🎉🎉
@GeoTime402
@GeoTime402 Год назад
Excellent broadcast Joel. STS always up on the hot topics.
@paperthin8794
@paperthin8794 Год назад
keep it coming!
@lindsayshea
@lindsayshea Год назад
Joel I would love if you had Tim Jansen on to talk about the Mike Williams/Brian Winchester case
@Globelle
@Globelle Год назад
I won't lie as bad as Brian was I think Denise is even worse and I am glad she is in prison
@user-yo8bt4el7h
@user-yo8bt4el7h Год назад
I know a reason why WA appears guilty, that I have not heard online, nor have I read in comment sections. Did anyone notice that after she testified the first time, and exited the witness stand, she was stopped briefly by Judge Hankenson and a brief conversation ensued. If you look closely at WA's demeanor, that girl couldn't WAIT to get out of that courtroom!!! I don't think she heard a single word the judge said.
@sunnymoondog
@sunnymoondog 10 месяцев назад
I can't wait for the jail calls to be on RU-vid! Phone Calls From Prison channel is interesting.
@chuckmiller2951
@chuckmiller2951 Год назад
The way the Adelsons managed communication was a big part of their downfall. Instead of avoiding Dan I think the smart move would be to call and leave a nice voicemail to set up a conversation about the school enrolment. But then I agree that Wendi has poor impulse control like a lot of people with certain types of personality disorders. There is probably a gold mine of incrimination in the jail phone calls. I keep going back to the circumstances around the transaction for the murder. A smart person would not use someone that they had a relationship with (Charlie) and hung out with (Wendi) but they did not think that through having gone through life avoiding consequences for other transgressions. Again, personalities are important for understanding their actions. Charlie strikes me as far too impressed with his mastery of all aspects of life. That goes double for the “domestic coordinator/mischief-maker” that is the Sun Moon and Stars of the Adelson Universe. Wendi seems to be incapable of covering her guilt - strategic questioning will trip her up and I am confident that she will reveal her guilt. An innocent person would naturally soften their opinion about an ex-husband and father of her children, but Wendi is incapable of that and could be tripped up. I agree that people like her are not credible except to those they hold in thrall. She may be so confident in her ability to charm everyone that she will insist on testifying at her own trial. Wendi had her lingering divorce issues resolved with brutal finality. As for Dan ruining Wendi’s career, she did not need his help doing that. She has not been a success in her post murder career, has she? Wendi is a reflexive or is it compulsive liar and they are easily tripped up. I’ve done it and have seen it done. Sometimes they reveal themselves with little prompting. The “I don’t remember” statement is a hallmark of that sort of person. Wendi doesn’t wear clothes; she puts on a costume to present a perfect persona for the situation. Don’t underestimate the IT or tech guys SA Samson, but me, I’m biased having been one. Wendi didn’t care how the divorce and murder affected her children and has continued to treat them as pawns. Truly sociopathic. I speculate that Donna and Wendi continually bad-mouth Dan with his sons. What lawyer would think that a broken screen is a warranty issue. #TVisCode.
@cliff.frankenberger
@cliff.frankenberger Год назад
Hi Chuck, to your first point, obviously the popular theory is she avoided Dan because she knew he’d be gone... if she did what you suggested, how many would view that as a calculated move to use as proof she wasn’t involved and claim it's an indication of guilt? Just like entering her son into the Pre-K lottery and telling the hitman joke & story. My point is I think no matter what Wendi did the hours, days and weeks leading up to the murder, people will find a way to view her actions as incriminating. I never planned a murder, but I would think using someone you don’t know seems a lot more risky for multiple reasons. The fact that Charlie had a personal relationship w/ Katie wasn’t the issue, the issue was the murder was traced back to the actual trigger men. The ‘relationship’ wasn’t a factor - in fact you can argue it benefited Charlie because Katie sat through two trials and remained loyal to him. Would someone you don’t know do that OR would they roll on you to get a deal? I’m not sure Wendi feels any guilt and I know I’m in the minority thinking that its possible this was done for her and she wasn’t part of the planning. If she wasn’t involved in the planning BUT still was aware, I think she has just the type of mental makeup to feel zero guilt. To your last point, I think the timing of the TV repair is suspicious but not the fact that the ‘Adelsons’ tried to get it replaced as a warranty repair. I’ve heard so many comments that no one calls in a repair of a broken screen... do you think Wendi or whoever called in the repair (Donna?) told BestBuy a child threw something at the screen and its physically damaged? It’s just like them to play dumb and attempt to scam BestBuy into a free replacement. I’d bet the fact that the information that screen was physically damaged wasn’t shared when the claim was made.
@downtherabbitholes4714
@downtherabbitholes4714 Год назад
@@cliff.frankenberger I believe Wendi 100% knew the murder was going down in the near future. That two-week stay at her childhood home days before the murder, when she cleaned out her childhood room was one indicator of murder prep. Coupled with the biggest indicator of murder knowledge is when she drove by the crime scene within an hour or so after the murder. I think no matter what anyone thinks it all comes back as she was bit by bit bred as a true sociopath-- as they all seem to be sociopaths in this Adelson cultish and emotionally incestual family. Of course, excluding Rob the ostracized brother. Attorney Singer says it best and succinctly: Wendi is a Sociopath.
@cliff.frankenberger
@cliff.frankenberger Год назад
@@downtherabbitholes4714 Yes, it easy to believe she had ‘knowledge’ with all the preponderance of evidence to support that theory, BUT knowledge and being a direct conspirator in the murder are two completely different things. I see three possible scenarios - I could believe any of one of the below three: 1) Wendi was part of the plot from the word go. 2) Wendi was not part of the plot BUT was aware (by aware she was told directly or through innuendo) 3) Wendi was not part of the plot BUT pieced it together the day of OR the days leading up to the murder I know 90 PLUS percent of those that follow and comment on this case can not accept options 2 & 3, but I can see both of those as possibilities.
@AbbeyWare-qy1ke
@AbbeyWare-qy1ke 9 месяцев назад
Wendy was keeping La Cost at a distance because she had the house packed up ready to move he commented on interviewing
@PollyAmorous
@PollyAmorous 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for your analysis. I’m only reading it now. You’re great!
@cleopatria5316
@cleopatria5316 Год назад
Wendy is evil if she love her kids she would never take her kids dad away im divoced my son has amazing dad i could not imagine hurting him women who do this are crazy i hope she gets locked up
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Год назад
💯💯
@JCP58
@JCP58 Год назад
Did Wendi see a doctor for her "laryngitis" or is it self diagnosed?
@jennypham3998
@jennypham3998 Год назад
She saw Dr. Donna. Dr. Donna told her she cannot talk to anyone. Donna knows her daughter well.
@chipsdad5861
@chipsdad5861 9 месяцев назад
How can you indict everyone else and not indict Wendi who is really the only one that benefited from the crime.
@FredPena-rd5cf
@FredPena-rd5cf Год назад
Bring this family to justice!
@ruthwalker6695
@ruthwalker6695 9 месяцев назад
Joel this is such a surpise.......your guest today are my absolute favorite!! I love each of these highly intelligent men!! I love to hear their differing opinions which opens up my mind different ways of this king!! Joel you are the most special one, well not completely true, I have to say Ms Karma is definitely number one but you are a close second!!! Love your show! Keep enriching all our minds with your wonderful guests & the topics they discus!! Thanks Joel!! Love ya💖
@marshapieroni6677
@marshapieroni6677 10 месяцев назад
Don't know if you mentioned this and i missed it, but Lacasse testified she canceled their trip they had planned, i believe to meet his parents because she was worried their flight home would be delayed and she wouldn't be there to pick the children up. They were to be back by the 17th and she was to pick her boys up on the 18th.
@dadsarepeopletoo3785
@dadsarepeopletoo3785 5 месяцев назад
Yep
@Lilly-iy3ob
@Lilly-iy3ob Год назад
Great show!
@laraoneal7284
@laraoneal7284 10 месяцев назад
Donna uses children to meet her needs in the family not the other way around where adults are supposed to meet the child’s needs. Classic NPD dynamic. Very harmful to a child being raised like this.
@susiehoyle6113
@susiehoyle6113 Год назад
For t😂he panel; favorite court room movie,hi from CANADA
@user-mn6ll6bh5k
@user-mn6ll6bh5k Год назад
I think windy should should be prosecuted
@Childless-cat-lady
@Childless-cat-lady Год назад
About the school “wheel”: When did she first submit the kids names? If she did that before her 2 week trip to S. Florida, (she certainly must have) it was probably designed to harass Danny and later forgotten once the hit men were hired. If on the other hand it indeed was important to her and an innocent gesture, why did she call Charlie instead of immediately returning Danny’s call about the school?
@iveliserojas612
@iveliserojas612 Год назад
She did just like everything she to show that she was staying but if she was why was she cleaning out her old bedroom and why 78 was already packed and gone she was involved she just did the what up app and didn’t put herself out their but it was a family affair
@amandas.7143
@amandas.7143 9 месяцев назад
her mom told her to so she can say she planned to enroll them there. making it look like she had no clue about the murder . they’re not dumb ppl
@kimdelorme6314
@kimdelorme6314 7 месяцев назад
How the heck, did I miss this informative show!❤❤❤
@AidaShawJ.D.
@AidaShawJ.D. 6 месяцев назад
I am watching this after Charlie’s conviction and Donna’s arrest and pending trial! Amazing!
@lisal2018
@lisal2018 10 месяцев назад
Someday Wendi’s children will know their mom, uncle and grandparents had their dad killed. Can’t imagine how much that will mess them up.
@javiermori1710
@javiermori1710 11 месяцев назад
Is there dental practice still thriving after all this exposure on the case? I would think not but i just recently started following this case.
@IFChi1904
@IFChi1904 7 месяцев назад
It closed years ago.
@lindamacey3733
@lindamacey3733 Год назад
great guests, so informative
@Missyrocks53
@Missyrocks53 Год назад
I also agree no way Wendi would ever testify, although we would all love to see it. It would be an amazing cross-exam given the dynamics of three female attorneys. Wendi couldn’t play victim as she loves to do. On KM, I do see what Tim is saying about what the defense can use if they put her on the stand. No way should that verdict be overturned, though. However, if she has some big info and it can independently be corroborated with texts, emails, etc, maybe she’s useful? Georgia can say she knows she’s lied but that the contemporaneous texts etc prove that particular thing is truthful? 😂
@jodievukmir3187
@jodievukmir3187 11 месяцев назад
The bullet whiskey bought shows she is the animal who has no regard for human life
@sofialavish1072
@sofialavish1072 Год назад
Can't wait to see Charlie boy's trial.
@patpat5296
@patpat5296 Год назад
How many times do you think Wendy listened to that podcast?
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Год назад
😂
@gretaferebee3179
@gretaferebee3179 Год назад
Dear God I really feek for those boys. Is it Lincoln and Benjamin? Terrible for the kids.
@WeAintGotNoQuit
@WeAintGotNoQuit Год назад
Why can’t the state arrest Donna, then in trial subpoena Wendy , then the state will get them both, Wendy indirectly 🤷‍♀️ Or states witness for Charlie 🤷‍♀️
@ellengarber5235
@ellengarber5235 Год назад
Carl Steinbeck is awesome!
@70s80sVintage
@70s80sVintage 6 месяцев назад
Wendi took many opportunities to demean Dan on the stand...you can still feel the anger after all these years. You can only imagine the HATE she had for him the moments and days before his death. Her profession and reputation were on the line. He was taken out by the Adelson family - as a collective.
@Bunnybella765
@Bunnybella765 Год назад
Just a note…there is a reason that submersibles are normally round. Even pressure to the hull of the vessel. When I heard tube…no way I’m getting into that!! At that depth especially, not even half that depth to be honest.
@lorieromano
@lorieromano 10 месяцев назад
I am watching this after Charlie's verdict of guilty has been read. It's so fascinating listen to how legal minds work. I do think Donna will be arrested and charged and found guilty. I don't know if there is enough with Wendi but I do believe that now that Charlie is facing life, he may try to flip and give them Wendi... Hell hath no fury like a narcissist pinned in a corner
@tamararutland-mills9530
@tamararutland-mills9530 9 месяцев назад
Maybe there was an inside joke within Wendi’s close friends, given how we’ e already seen evidence of how she just can’t help herself. I’m thinking about the BULLET bourbon and the big party Wendi was going to right after Dan was killed. It could be that Wendi was prompted to drive by the crime scene so that they would not have all been celebrating prematurely, and wanted to give confirmation of it. The partygoers have probably all heard of the joke Charlie wore out, and it may be more than a coincidence that Wendi shows up with the Bullet Bourbon.
@sarahs2288
@sarahs2288 Год назад
Dan wasn’t speaking to the school when he was shot, he was speaking to his friend about the school. Not a big deal, but those are the accurate facts.
@IFChi1904
@IFChi1904 7 месяцев назад
He was talking with a music teacher, the guy wasn't his friend.
@sarahs2288
@sarahs2288 7 месяцев назад
@@IFChi1904 The guy was on both the Tally podcast and the 20/20 episode-he was his friend.
@aando4951
@aando4951 Год назад
Great content. I think everyone understands Wendi at the least was complicit...unfortunately I don't think the evidence is there to prove beyond reasonable doubt. I think Georgia should give it a shot though. RIP Danny
@Burningheartcelosia
@Burningheartcelosia Год назад
John has a lot of hope for a lifelong bad actress and narcissist and someone without normal love and relationship constructs. I’m with Carl 100%
@deelicious1920
@deelicious1920 Год назад
lmao I can't believe this list isn't done yet. I am not complaining though - love the content, have watched every video going over this list and can't wait for the mom to be arrested. Something that hasn't been discussed on all of these roundtables though is the impact of race. I personally feel like that has an impact on this case as well. The minorities were arrested, tried and jailed immediately yet they took forever to even indict Charlie who is obviously the ringleader as well as his mom. She is still out due to her age and race. That's how I feel. Wendy won't ever be indicted and neither will the dad.
@taylorburton7820
@taylorburton7820 Год назад
It's about going up the chain of command of the operation.
@teresasully3561
@teresasully3561 8 месяцев назад
Remember Wendy accidently started to say Hit man instead of Tv repair man. Another mistake exposing she knew what was about 2 go down.
@IFChi1904
@IFChi1904 7 месяцев назад
When did she say that?.
@BluesClues31
@BluesClues31 Год назад
One question I have is: if Charlie is acquitted, what does this mean for Magbanua's conviction given that the conviction was based on her association with Charlie and his involvement. I can't make sense of a world where Magbanua gets life for being paid by Charlie to orchestrate a killing but then Charlie is found innocent of paying Magbanua to orchestrate a killing.
@BluesClues31
@BluesClues31 Год назад
Would she have grounds for an appeal if Charlie is acquitted? and if so, does she then have an interest that Charlie be found not guilty? This is so confusing, like a catch 22.
@jennypham3998
@jennypham3998 Год назад
Charles won't be acquitted. So don't waste your time thinking about that.
@BluesClues31
@BluesClues31 Год назад
@jennypham3998 what's the point of this trial then if it's a 100% guaranteed guilty verdict? The point is, when Magbanua was convicted how can it not be a straight conviction for Charlie as well?
@jennypham3998
@jennypham3998 Год назад
@anamonteiro4764 Even he s 100%guilty he still has to go to trial so they can show the public the evidence. You cant just say you guilty and put someone in jail. The people want to see why he s guilty.
@BluesClues31
@BluesClues31 Год назад
@jennypham3998 yes exactly, meaning you have to be FOUND guilty. Which means you always have a change of a not guilty... that's what the defense is working for. My question is: how can you even have a chance if someone else has gotten life just because they were associated with you?
@TerryManlove1
@TerryManlove1 7 месяцев назад
I can see how some attorneys lose their moral compass when it comes to personal gain. Attorneys with an ethical framework is a comfort to the heart and mind of an observer. 😊
@carolwardropper5521
@carolwardropper5521 Год назад
Hey to the haters of the Submarine tragedy…All adults on board knew the risks and they went anyway 🤷🏻‍♀️
@user-yo8bt4el7h
@user-yo8bt4el7h Год назад
If the adelsons were tight with or had connections with powerful people in Tallahassee, charlie wouldn't have been sitting in jail for OVER a YEAR!!!
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Год назад
Heck, yeah. (There's an awful lot of 'conspiratea' being sipped in comments.)
@lululiga333
@lululiga333 8 месяцев назад
Brilliant conversation thanks. 4 really great interesting and highly intelligent guys.
@Schiffon
@Schiffon Год назад
Singer has an intolerable habit of touching his hair, is it due to boredom? Love STS nation and all your guests, Joel🤗‼️🌱
@amybyrd419
@amybyrd419 10 месяцев назад
Eventually the boys will look into the murder of their Dad and when they discover the truth it will be devastating for them. Wendi will lose her boys.
@carrow1057
@carrow1057 10 месяцев назад
All fabulous guests as I complete my final exams🎉
@maryerichardson8302
@maryerichardson8302 Год назад
Why is it taking so long to charge Wendi?
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Год назад
Did you watch the video?
@sunnymoondog
@sunnymoondog 10 месяцев назад
Love the doggy. ❤🐕
@cocatfan
@cocatfan 9 месяцев назад
Does Carl even know HOW to smile?
@kasthooriepollmeier2700
@kasthooriepollmeier2700 Год назад
WHY DIDNT THE FISHMAN CATCH A FISH - BECAUSE ALL THE FISH (KEPT THEIR MOUTHS SHUT)HAVING A LAWYER WHEN QUESTIONED IS THE LAW!!!!!!!
@Globelle
@Globelle Год назад
I LOVE CARL!!!! I wish you could be in charge of Talahassee. Honestly even President!!! This country needs help
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Год назад
And Sam Harris. ✨
@gurindergrewal772
@gurindergrewal772 10 месяцев назад
Will Ruth Markell sue Adelson in a civil suit?
@FLOWER-rl7nh
@FLOWER-rl7nh Год назад
IT DOESNT MATTER HOW OLD OR HOW MANY,BUT THEY DID SOMETHING WRONG, AN IMORTANT LIFE,AND A FATHER WAS LOST!!.. WHY DO YOU KEEP THINKING WENDI IS NOT GUILTY?? STÒP MAKING EXCUSES ABOUT HER...SHE IS NOT A BABY, SHE IS A GROWNUP WOMAN AND SHOULD GO TO TRIAL!! SHE IS NOT A VICTIM...SHE'S ACTING STUPID!!
@Oliveoil608
@Oliveoil608 Год назад
Yea Judy Rashbaum us feeding him bs and we are supposed to believe it? Come on
@laraoneal7284
@laraoneal7284 10 месяцев назад
I believe Donna and Wendi are more guilty than Charlie at all. Charlie was far more believable than his sister.
@barbarahawkins7864
@barbarahawkins7864 9 месяцев назад
Those poor boys ... had their whole lives controlled by evil people who made their Dad out to be evil...
@dadsarepeopletoo3785
@dadsarepeopletoo3785 5 месяцев назад
And they don't even know it. It's all they know and they undoubtedly love them very much.
@belindaj.bernardino8535
@belindaj.bernardino8535 9 месяцев назад
There is no way she is not involved in "any way" for the murder of her ex husband. There's just "no way"
@Estellbel1968
@Estellbel1968 10 месяцев назад
She should get arrested come on now she was involved she needs to pay
@dadsarepeopletoo3785
@dadsarepeopletoo3785 5 месяцев назад
Rashbaum won the lottery when he got the Adelsons as clients. Huge transfer of wealth from them to him
@m.51373
@m.51373 10 месяцев назад
Carl is right on. Highly experienced compared to anyone interviewed that I have watched. Just my opinion.
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