James, sorry to burst your bubble, but no team fears our passing game because it's the only thing we do. It's pretty easy to double Chase and Tee and leave Brown and Moss alone because everyone knows those boys are not getting the ball. Defences just need to show man coverage, then change to zone after the snap. Then, once we lose, Joe, in his press conference, will say the same thing. It was a really good secondary, and they disguised their scheme really well. That's what a vanilla offence will do. 🤷♂️
They paid more for Rankins ($12M per year for 2 years) then what the Lions paid DJ Reader on a 1 year prove it deal for $7M. So they obviously had real concerns about DJ and it wasn't about saving any money Mulaghetta was just going to keep using whatever they offered Bates to up the price at other teams bc supposedly they had a verbal agreement and then Mulugheta went back on it which showed he was negotiating with other teams when he technically wasn't suppose to be. Also mulaghetta has so many players on the Falcons that I think their GM has an arrangement with mulaghetta lol They signed BJ Hill after ogunjobi took the Broncos deal instead of the Bengals offer. Then the Broncos did a medical and wouldn't sign him. Ogunjobj is on a really good Steelers DL which prob helps him alot. I never noticed him on all these primetime games but I'm not looking for him either. BJ has made alot of great plays and takeaways
@@JoeyPownall-sk3hx Agreed! I think Belichick would be great for this team, and he would have "his Tom Brady" again! and we saw what that relationship produced!
Who else is beyond frustrated and pissed off that they do NOTHING while watching Division Rivals make moves to improve? We stick with Jackson Carman and Zac Carter...
as bad as it looks, I expect the Bengals to win both Steeler games (my prediction). I believe they will beat the Browns again too. I will not predict the 2nd game with the Ravens. The Steelers are over achieving in my opinion, if you can control Watt with double teams etc...we beat steelers twice. but playoffs are still a long shot but doable in this league.
Maxx Crosby. Go get him. They have the cap space now. Tee is off the books next season so still affordable, and a Trey Hendrickson replacement under contract when they inevitably (foolishly) let him walk too.
we only have 9 mill in cap space... crosby's cap hit is over 30 million we have to sign chase we got players like both safeties, hilton, and a bunch more defense on contract years.... no way they have space for crosby lol
@jharp08 not so... they had edgeran james, and they ran the ball a lot... 18 did throw a lot, especially off of play action. But the run game was a staple... and the biggest difference they had a great signal caller who had an excellent feel for the game.
JoeyB #1 QB in the NFL, can u imagine what he would be doing w a run game, a competent play caller and not having to rely on his receivers to win 1v1 on every play….
Pittsburgh Cleveland ravens all made changes in their offensive line. They all seem pretty good Cincinnati been working on their offensive line 5 years one person goes down the line falls apart. No back ups.
Can they improve, yes. Will they? Absolutely not. This ownership and front office has shown absolutely zero evidence that they will make the necessary moves to play winning football.
You’re one of the few in comments that’s actually addressing what the real problem is. People talking about the O line and who we did and did not draft. None of that matters as long as Mike ‘Cheap as Fu@k’ Brown owns this team. Fans need to boycott the games. Anything less will make no difference.
Our best D lineman in the last 4 years have come from free agency. Dj reader Trey Hendrickson and Larry ogunjobi. That’s why we say we need to spend more on d line. Draft capital is useless when you’re spending it on players that don’t pan out.
@markglenn2105, you're absolutely right. I've been saying it for weeks now. It's all about attitude. Hard work beats talent when talent won't work hard. And it doesn't look like we're even interested.
Love listening to ALL your Podcasts, guys! You guys, (and Elise!), are the best! 👏👏👏👍 Like you, I'm disappointed, but "glass half FULL", in relation to our beloved Bengals. 🐯
This is so pathetic that the Ravens, Bills, and Chiefs have all made in-season trades and Mike, Katie, and just straight up refuse to. But will hit us with “we’re close to getting something done before the deadline” sure you were 🤡🤡🤡
They're closer to picking top 5 than making playoffs. Why would they trade? You're naming sb contenders, that's not the Bengals 😂 And don't worry, if they lose to raiders Sunday, you'll get your trade, it'll be them trading Tee out
@@OldSchoolMindedwe could be 5-3 and they won’t trade. They don’t act like a front office capable of serious contention, not fair to the players or us the fans
The Ravens traded for Roquan Smith on October 31 2022. Before he joined the team, the Ravens allowed 23 points per game. Since acquiring Smith for a second-round pick, the Ravens have allowed 15.6 points per game.
I Really think that Bengal Fans think if they made it too the Superbowl once That can make it there again. Only problem is there not playing like a Superbowl team. I really Don't know who too blame I'm not blaming there coach . The last game look like a bunch of guys running around in circles not knowing how too handle a football. At the end of the last game against the Eagles Burrow look lik he was Ready too call it a day and take a nap. I'm Expecting this team too make a quick turnaround and start winning these games and play like you did on. your way too the Superbowl. Bengals Fans let's not Give up just yet.
Sad thing is the Bengals probably would hire another Zac Taylor type. They would not go after a top tier head coaching candidate. Hope they prove me wrong but I don't even see them firing Zac unless he has another bad year or possibly 2. Remember Marvin was here 16 years and accomplished less than Taylor
Burrow play almost all his snaps from the gun for starters, then we were selling that the run games was going to be better without Mixon... I feel very pessimist about this team going foward... hope to be mistaken but i think that we already watch the best bengals performance this season and they lost every game... Maybe i´m just been in shock of the eagles game...
A winning mentality is not a player only attribute. The organization has to have it as well. Go get players and coaches that will help you win now. An even bigger concern is how they scout and draft players. 18 defensive picks in the last three years. The only ones who show promise are Jordan Battle and Kris Jenkins. Defensive drafting has to improve.
Look at what the Roquan Smith trade did for the Ravens defense in 2022. Granted they had alot of other good pieces . . but he alone turned the defense from a top 20 into a top 5 defense. Look at their stats as a defense before they traded for him, and then look at the defense stats the last 7+ games they had him in 2022. And amazingly the Ravens were somehow able to sign him to a $100 million deal. And sign their high dollar quarterback. Not saying the Bengals need a linebacker but get a high impact guy to help turn this thing around.
I remember when a bad Steelers team bet big and traded for Minkah Fitzpatrick. That is aggressiveness. They haven't won a playoff game since then but they have been a scrappy team that is hard to beat and that doesn't get walked on by other teams. In fact, they beat us regularly. We should do something like that. But then, I don't really have faith in the team to approach football in a way that would make it payoff anyways.
It’s once again gonna come down to O line and that looks bad. Orlando Brown will be hobbled by the calf injury and Cody Ford can’t do the job. Moms on the other side has already been out and if he goes down again there is nobody. High odds statistically they will experience injuries on the interior line too. Bottom line is this will be a makeshift line the rest of the season. The result is burrow under fire all year with limitations on the offense. The defense stinks too. I see this team ending the season at 7-10 or 6-11.
I've been wondering that as of late. Mike Brown has always complained about being a small market and we are near the bottom in revenue. Makes me scared we truly can't afford to compete.
Mike is a billionaire. This is a salary cap league where all the teams make stupid tv money from rights. He has no excuse other than being a tight ass. Dudes the worst owner you could ever draw.
@@GameJunky513please show where Mike is a billionaire. All of his net worth is tied up into the teams valuation. So if he sold the team he might be a billionaire but it may be close after taxes. Mike should move the team to a warm weather state that has less taxes if he was strictly business... maybe Texas could use a 3rd team
Silly question: there's no where to go but up , when your not playing good.... Too much talent to keep playing bad... In fact, we prob. Have more talent, than alot of teams...
We’re realistically a three plays away from being 6-2. 1 elite interior (sexy dexy) would have turned all of this around. It’s proven d line not only bolsters run and pass rush, it relieves the Lbs and secondary from asked to do so much.
Realistically EVERY team is 3 plays away from a different record. Here is the facts though. Bengals 3 wins have been the 1 win panthers.. 1 win patriots.. 2 win giants.. yeah basically the worst teams in the league. Oh and they lost to the 1 win patriots another horrible w
Why are we trading players, who we should of paid, for draft picks. Who have we actually hit on draft pick wise in the last few years outside of a few?
What have they done spending wise? They pretended to save money to sign Higgins and Chase and let Reader and Bates go. So yes, they are failing to prioritize the defense in a way that actually creates a winning team.
Their offense never punted, 10/13 on 3rd downs. Zac needs to be better on crucial game moments. That 4th down was bad. And the defense needs to show grit. They should still be a multiple, Swiss army offense even without Tee. It’s irking cuz, this team is definitely better than their record. Money Mac needs to be money Mac too. It just doesn’t make sense. We’ve seen them be multiple on offense. So please, please, get back on track Bengals. And front office, Mike brown, please pay Jamarr first thing offseason and please get it right on free agency. Coaches, please, be more consistent. They’re moments of brilliance in play design on both sides of ball. Can we just be the team we know we have? I know we all know…
I told you that the window was closed. Said it all offseason. Best chance was when burrow chase Higgins bates Logan Wilson were all on rookie contracts. That’s over now
Did James really try to say Bengals spent money on this defense? News flash we bought D level players who are playing like D level players. Mike didn’t pay reader and bates, then reached on players who or are also playing like reach players, instead of making trades to move up in draft. Yeah they spent money on the cheapest D linemen and 7 safeties. They didn’t “invest” they did the absolute minimum.
Old Marvin circled this one on his calendar, poor JoeyB gonna be running for his life. The playbook was out on Zac last year when he went 1&5 in the division. Double Jamarr & rush with 4 dlineman. Zac's offense sucks. Is 0&5 at home enough?
They should just trade away all their 1st and 2nd round draft picks for good established players b/c obviously our scouts and coaches cant hit on a single draft pick. Cant think of a single good draft pick the staff has made. Wasting a 1st round pick on myles Murphy and the guy has played maybe 100 snaps in 2 seasons is insane. Wasting burrows prime building for the future makes no sense, you dont need to dev players rn they need to win a SB.
Guys!, other teams build contending rosters and deal with losing a guy here and there , tweaking this or that and continue to be contenders. Bengals players can finish in the Super bowl or afc championship and need 4-8 weeks the next season to relearn how to be top end players. now were deep into a season and its still not working. That can only be coaching! youve just listed a bunch of players that weve seen play elite football at the highest level and are still under 30. It is the system. zac is a great guy but proven consistent winner would have this same roster winning game one and probably leading the division right now. The players are fine. We just get 70% of their ability. coaches get the other 30% out of them. our coaches dont.
How much longer can this team employ their run game coordinator, Frank Pollack??? They're spending top dollar on the OL to get average pass blocking and awful run blocking. It's not like this just started being an issue. This team needs a new OL coach in the worst way. Pollack should have been gone 2 years ago, but if they retain him next year it's obvious they're not even trying to get better.
They have tried different combinations of players on the OL and the run game has always sucked. There is one consistent and it's the coach who is out of his depth. They need to walk away from the toxic relationship they have with Pollack.
No improvement. Bad platers.You let them walk.From Bates to Eli Apple to Awaizie to Tre Flowers.From Reader to Mixon to Perine to Boyd to Haydon Hurst.To many good p layers walked.Burrow cant do it by himself.Higgins doesn't want to play.Trade him M Murphy is a bust.Gesicki cant hold the ball.Play Burton.Bad coaching for sure.
Higgins leaving, we not gonna get anything for him. If stay as is we not competing for anything with him. I would trade him for Crosby. Another pass rusher will help this d alot.
Burton got triple teamed by Philly and he killed slay Jr on thr deep ball... stop the capp and speculation.. yall the same lames that said mixon was washed-up... you don't know .. but what shows up on tape is nurton getting open and making plays burrow praising him but I'm supposed to believe James 🤔
This obsession with JoeyB having to do everything because we choose not to invest in a balanced offense/hope that Tee and Jamar are on field together has to stop
Literally had to listen to you all tear Mixon down and never acknowledge the scheme or lack of run blocking to only now have to hear about it as to why the run games is crap. You guys think we don’t keep receipts ?
The defense is slow asf😂 Pratt needs to go too defensive end And we need line backers who are smacking ish big and fast We need at least 2-3 6’3 fast and competent cbs Play calling must Compliment talent Now it’s worst than high school 😂😂
I can’t believe what a homer James Rapien is….he acts like it’s a given that we will beat the Raiders. Has he been watching this defense? It is okay to love the Bengals, but watch the games and get back to reality. We should not be looking to add players at the trade deadline because this season is over. We should move Higgins if we can get a good offer. Try listening to “It’s always game day in Cincinnati” if you want to hear honest insight on the Bengals.
How can we be better? We can’t just snap our fingers and become a physical football team. We get dominated in the trenches every single week and it’s embarrassing to watch
#1. Logan Wilson sucks. period. without a leader in that position, without a tiger, allowing only 2 and 3 yard gains versus the 9-12 yard gains we can improve on defense. #2. We do not have a quality secondary. #3. Sam Hubbard is not that good. period. #4. As I have been saying, Zac Taylor is not a quality head coach, he is a "binder" type coach, meaning he only goes by the book, he has no creativity or "instincts" to call the plays that allows Joe Burrow to thrive and win games. Being a predictable play caller is the death nail of any NFL team
Best Qb in NFL through 8-weeks has gotten out played by the opposing Qb every so far LOL!!! Ok you got me Watson didn't out play him!!! Joe's contract turned locker room into individuals playing for money!!! They actually played good until 💰 Mac shanked one & they folded witch wouldn't of happened, when they had TEAM LOCKER ROOM!!!
