Will Mali, Niger and Burkina Faso Become One Country? 

Landlocked desert with no infrastructure, no automation, no industry, just short life spans and raw materials. They kick out the French and brought in more outsiders, this time from Russia. Clowns.

I can't think of a single successful case where an autocrat voluntarily chose to share power within a union. Egypt-Syria tried, but one autocrat didn't like being a Jr partner, while the other autocrat refused to surrender any power to make things more equal.

They also share the fact that they have greedy despots that wanna lead. Unification will most likely end up in civil war.

@@badluck5647 Lebanon to end the Civil War? Fidel Castro transferring power to his Brother?

​@@badluck5647 Emperor Diocletian abducting Yeltsin giving power to Putin Tantawi abducting from being Egypt president

Yeah, I hope that this would be a good thing. But when was the last time this worked out well? Particularly in such a corrupt place?

Landlocked desert with no infrastructure, no automation, no industry, just short life spans and raw materials. They kick out the French and brought in more outsiders, this time from Russia. Clowns.

Could be a classic Triumvirate!

Some people's brains are just not developed for non-basic thinking and growing from being run by raw emotions (like those who voted for Brexit or Trump). That's what these dictatorships have in spades. So, yeah, not sure this confederacy will work.

It's a long term strategy They will create similar laws and economic regulations between each others and within 20 to 30 years can become unified or it will be similar to EU where each country has its government but they all follow EU rules too with open borders and other things

that's probably what they gonna do, i guess they insist on "Union" to bring motivation for the project

That's called a confederation.

@@-haclong2366 no the definition has never been precise: the "confederate states of America" were an actual state and not just a confederation or a union and it's also the case today for the Swiss confederation

If they go that route, good for them, since that seems like it would be more appealing for three different military goverments. IF they try to become one single country, however, then *_OOOOOH boy! There's gonna be carnage._*

@forevaschemin, I agree with you. A federation could work. It depends on the balance between definition of sovereignty, and definition of cooperation as specified in the Treaty among them. For this they will need a single Constitutional Court to interpret the Treaty. It will also depend on specifics, such as distribution of power, the monetary system and exchange rate regime, formula for taxation, formula for public expenditure, formula for decisions on crucial matters such as food, education and training, culture, defense and security, STEM, manufacturing, infrastructure, Foreign Affairs etc.

Liberia and Sierra Leone, useless colonies of the United States just need to disappear

Good idea.

would not work because of religion. sierra leone is muslim. liberia is not. not everyone wants to live in an islamic country and have to deal with their rules and values, esp. if you're a woman. a country with burkina faso, mali, niger and guinea makes more sense because they speak french, they are muslim, and it would give bf, m, and n access to a coast/port.

I like it 😂

Forget it. It can't happen.

Gaddafi didn’t even try it, he died before it was even considered properly.

@@andrewrogers3067 He definitely tried it, it just went nowhere.

The countries are already oligarchical military juntas, not dictatorships, and power is already shared. I don’t think its unthinkable that they unite on paper while still remaining decentralized and oligarchical in nature, at least until one man politically maneuvers himself into the role of autocrat

Not really this would be federalised and they share ethnicity and political outlook

​@@ragerancherno he didn't

But , france need to pay which is stolen by their , Otherwise , as a African , we have a African immigrants in France , and you know how dengerous they are

I hope Russia DOES get involved. Dividing your forces across two fronts is how the czar got himself sh!tcanned over 100 years ago.

That's ideal, but when radical islamists come From these regions and wreak havoc on Western society what else can we do but try to prevent it by any means necessary?

Well its not as simple as that, french help actually saved mali's most important cities from being taken by terrorist

@@ektekp Sure it did lol

😂 Right

Maybe not experts, but many probably know more than you

@@ey3z4ya nah

How do you know a European is an "expert"? Wait five minutes and they'll tell you! 😂

Even other Africans know shit about West Africa let alone Sahelian politics

Exactly.

They could combine into one junta and retain power in an oligarchy of sorts, maybe a decentralized single country which in reality is de-facto separate countries. It wouldn’t be unthinkable, just unlikely

You're obviously a hater with all the hurt in your words but logically let's keep in mind that Western Democracy and their religion is what caused all these leadership problems across Africa. We need to give Africa a chance to forge its own path. Maybe this AES with their cooperation is a step in the right direction. Don't be too quick to judge until we see results. You obviously wont want to hear this but haters like you show they're doing something right.

Its iota

​@@AfroVersityDidn't know that Islam is a Western religion 😮

Deeply unstable, corrupt, and bankrupt nations come together all the time, just watch the EU. Lol. All it takes is a common interest, like being surrounded by hostile nations threatening to invade you.

Let’s not forget what would people have said at the thought of a European Union 100 years ago?

​@NakamuraShunske The EU was formed by democracies though, not military juntas.

​@@_jpghow was Germany unified? Italy?

​@@shafsteryellow Germany was unified by a fiscal union. Italy was unified by a political movement.

It will be interesting to see which direction these three nations take and which predictipns about them will turn out true or false.

lol...they're royally screwed and don't even know it. Meanwhile Ethiopia is doing all it can to get to the see at all cost

Europe (I refer to mostly neo colonists like France and all those who support their actions) cannot stand one day without interfering in its sphere of influence.

Oh I do, it’s simple. They think they’re better and correct. And in truth they’re hypocrites.

russia is geopolitically weaker and much less influential in the region than france so their relationship to these countries isn't as lopsided as the neocolonial ties they had with the french

is russia part of europe?

Because Russians has less power over them economically and they can atleast argue some terms with them than with the west

Wrong

This doesn't seem like click bait? Yes it's a catchy title, but it directly leads into the topic, talks about why this question is being asked, and discusses its actual likelihood. It's not "NEW MILITARY SUPERSTATE IN AFRICA? 🤯😱 100% CONFIRMED 💯"

It's a logistical nightmare going from a multipart system to a unipart system. There are hundreds of thousands of moving parts operated by millions of people which all operate on different norms, rules etc which need to sync up. If you fail to accomplish it smoothly you're gonna end up with an economical elite that will exploit the fog of chaos and establish a mafia like society.

How is this a clickbait title? Because you’re butthurt?

Why is that keep hating we moving forward 😂

Still missing the Dendi 😢

@@florianmaier104 Unfortunately, the Dendi are split between Benin, Niger, and Nigeria, and there are also part of the Songhai population in Sokoto and Kebbi (in Nigeria as well)

Singapore and Malaysia. Didn't last long though.

​@@mx2000That's more "Singapore getting kicked out of the Malayan Federation against their will"

Tanganiyika and Zanzibar?

​@@paulcruz168But that was bloody ages ago, on a geopolitical scale.

Tanzania

Funnily enough, for all the reasons this confederation is doomed to fail, this is not one of them. None of these countries have any designs on each other. They too weak and too evenly matched on one hand, and and face the same security and external challenges on the other.

Good luck. The juntas in each country is going to break out into inter factional wars pretty soon after the union is set.

so they will do some that has never happened before in all of history? Santa Claus is Real

AES

They are not,when it comes to Africa, they are bias .In their think Americans cannot think for themselves.

Nigeria = France

@@gunnlibfashion4232 Mali, Niger, and Burkina Faso juntas = Russia

Nigeria fighting to return those countries to French neocolonial status may be a fatal mistake for their own republic. They could barely stand to lose security personnel to Boko Haram. What happens when those same soldiers meet the bullets of Russian security services alongside those respective Afrikan militaries?

@@gunnlibfashion4232 Incredibly stupid comment. France has never been involved in Nigeria. It was a British colony. It was never in the French Empire or French sphere of influence. I mean, really, that comment is incredibly idiotic.

@@BonsuBigWhale Nigeria, if it intervened, would not be interested in "returning [the countries] to French neocolonial status." Their interests would be in not having a superstate with a terrible economy and an Islamicist insurgency problem, run by an unstable military junta directly to their north. In any event, the concept of neocolonialism is very much in dispute to begin with. And even the political theorists who coined the term neocolonialism would not describe it as a "status" a country can have. They would describe it as an economic situation which echoes the old colonial geopolitical hierarchies. As for how the Nigerian military would fare in this entirely speculative intervention, it would look very similar to most other West African wars in the past 70 years - extremely likely to fragment the regions involved between tribal/cultural groups and quite bloody. However, in sheer numbers, Nigeria would have a very significant advantage; not to mention that their economy is significantly stronger that those Sahel nations, which could put them in a position to acquire more and better arms from nations with whom they have good established trade and diplomatic relations. The Sahel nations have been very good at ruining their diplomatic ties to arms-producing nations in the past year or so.

If they make their national animal a Donkey, then it will be really fitting

Im English maybe. Officially it's AES

Finally french people are reacting aggressive on that , because how they steal our minrals many more?😂😂😂

@@GAZAMAN93X I know it's officially AES. I watched the video too but where does the E in AES come from?

A prequisite for that would be for there to be elections.

This is not "electoral" in any capacity

Autocrats according to who?

@@Gobackto4chan What would you call the military juntas who came to power through coups?

@@badluck5647 That’s not what an autocracy is

@@Gobackto4chan Autocracy is a system of government in which absolute power is held by the ruler, known as an autocrat. It includes most forms of monarchy and dictatorship, while it is contrasted with democracy.

Yes it is possible..look at what the greed and power of NATO did with libya by working together.

Senegal and Gambia will one or even join the A.S.S

Mali seems to be getting control of the situation.

We have no problems with touraeg the people making trouble in the north are terrorist from Libya who say they are touraeg and want to make their own state they are a lot of touraeg in Mali army

Why? The West profits from their brain drain, and the internal exploitation of African labour by African despots looking for quick cash.

exactly, seeing this as partially effect of arbitrary colonial borders "fixing themselves" as well also dont forget there is common factor behind the scenes, with Russia somewhat calling the shots and being an influence and preparing things via news and info-war for some time now

and let them bring in Wagner to fight Islamic State, good luck with that

I doubt they're being that smart about it, but one can hope, I guess?

Except the borders aren't the issue in these countries. It's more the Islamist and to a lesser extent, Tuareg insurgencies in these countries that have been problems. But internally, there isn't much ethnic strife

The confederation wouldn’t get rid of any borders. Just because they become a confederation doesn’t mean those 3 countries cease to exist.

Good for who? for Pride maybe but it doesn't make anything else better. Language doesn't make a countries. These countries will still be speaking french regardless. Priorities are all screwed up hear

@@user-qg5kf6ld1v he mali empire had 3 centuries using our own languages which had several different cultures and states under. So yes french is dissapearing, the next one to disappear is going to be the Latin script which we will replace with either Medu Neter hieratic version (what westerns call hieroglyphs) , Meroitic script, Ge Ez or Ajami. We’re not only kicking out french we are kicking their culture out too, now we already beat the france funded Djihadist in kidal (the base of the djihadist) we’re going to start the cultural revolution. The language we are going to use so that evrybody understands is Bambara which is spoken by 90% of the population already. We don’t need french. English should be taught only as secondary language in school for aquiring technology , business and nothing else. All you westerns can keep crying. It’s time for the 2nd african renaissance (The first one being when Nubian Nswt(Pharoah) took Kemet (Egypt) back from the non-africans foreigners who’s descendant sadly now own Kemet (egypt) today.

Él no esta hablando español amigo

Junta with j is the standard UK pronunciation. The TLDR team get a lot of pronunciations wrong but this is arguably not one of them. It’s not really the same word as the Spanish, as the Spanish “junta” means any assembly or committee, while in English it specifically means a ruling military council.

@@paradoxmo in the USA we use the Spanish pronunciation...but then, we have Mexico on our border.

😂😂😂

Why for ppl think they have 0 self direction

It's not the same thing, Russia has a respectful military and economical relationship with these countries, where France only does neocolonial interference without any respect. Recently the Malian army in collaboration with Wagner regained control of Kidal in a few months which was under the control of terrorists, while France spent 10 years in the region and did nothing, and according to Malian intelligence France supported the terrorists.

@@TheRealUsername Lol at thinking Russia isn't into neocolonial interference when it's literally carrying out a war of annexation right now.

​@@TheRealUsername You talk of Kidal without talking about the accord Mali had with the touareg push by Algeria. Their a reason why France didn't take Kidal, Serval was an anti-djiadist force not anti-touareg force. And if I remember well, France Army publish a video of Wagner and Malian RS buring corpse to frame France.

@@jean-philippebobin3732 - You are wrong when you say that the Tuaregs were pushed by Algeria to rebel against Mali. The Tuareg claims are long-standing and complex, and Algeria has not supported the rebels militarily or financially. - You are wrong when you say that Serval was an anti-jihadist force, not an anti-Touareg one. Serval also aimed to re-establish the authority of the Malian state over the entire north of the country, including Kidal, and to promote the implementation of the 2015 peace agreement.

It's more about admiring the authoritarian ideology of Putin's Russia rather than its military competence.

Imagine watching USA and the west over the last 2 months what they are doing in Gaza, killing over 20000+ innocent civilians. Do you think any good human will choose to be an ally with those murderous?

That's how bad the French are to their former colonies

Imagine being so horrible that someone chooses the worst option they can find than choosen you.

Whats the better alternative? Remain under Western Neocolonialism? 🤦🏿‍♂️

So what happens to all the refugees after it all goes to sh*t?

You keep telling yourself that, lol@@momytik

The devil you know vs the devil you don't.

Spot on!@@vanhoras3082

Except that the model of the chinese is more based on cooperation in Africa. At least compared to the western model.

Oh please, indebting countries they know can't pay so that later on they can seize their assets?! Sounds like real cooperation that mate, lol@@billcarson818

keep dreaming

are you serious? you must be joking

Somalia joined on paper. I reality no somali federal state will accept freedom of movement of people from congo/Uganda/south Sudan ect into somalia.. A union with Eritrea, sudan and Djibouti would however probably be accepted

@@shafsteryellow Thems the rule :D Can't have it both ways.

​@@wabdinurwell they won't, the east african states will probably confederate and associate with the horn and upper Nile states which could confederate themselves

Yes this was my complaint too

The acronym is in French (Alliance des États du Sahel).

AOSS

Yes it is necessary to create ethnostates for the ethnic groups in areas of constant ethnic conflict. They can then form confederation with those ethnostates they get along well with. The political décolonisation movement was a huge mistake. Impatient activist groups without experience in government administration (also the reason why South Africa went to violent hell after the immediate transition from exlusionary democracy (the actual term for such a political system: all institutions are democratic but only certain groups are enfranchised while the majority isn't and this isn't just based on your biological race like it was in SA but historically was mostly based on criteria like land ownership or paying taxes or in case of one French system, only the heads of family could vote) to democracy with univeral suffrage without any transition period which would have allowed for forming proper political parties with policy experts for each policy field instead of a violent marxist guerrilla/terrorist group getting into perpetual power because ex-terrorist had a change of heart in prison and became a a highly charismatic and well-meaning figure (I'm not disparaging him but large parts of the ANC didn't follow his path of seeking reconciliation, especially look at his terrible ex wife whose speciality was "necklacing" Black South Africans who opposed the ANC in favour of other groups seeking political equality of the races)) just declared the ethnically diverse colonial administrative units independent countries because WWII made the colonial powers weak and both the USA and the USSR sabotaged those empires without having a plan to turn former colonies into prospering states. In the médium to long term, ending colonial rule was both morally and politically right but it would have required a plan and borders based on ethnocultural lines, not artificially drawn ones on a map. The Near East/Levante would have turned out considerably more peaceful if France would have created the borders and states it had planned for the mandate the league of nations had given France over the formally Ottoman occupied territories.

There are repeated conflicts in Europe and Middle East right now. Men some people are obsessed with Africa. Idi Amin killed 500.000 of his own people. How many did Stalin and Hitler killed?

The Mali Empire was not a tribal life or boundary. Dumb western historian sell you that bullshit. It was better organized then your shiity democratic system you brought here

each ethnic area will need to have some form of self-rule and each state will need to respect their internal differences and leave them alone

You're the only one that seem to say it right. Thank you! There Is a strong growing rise in PanAfricanism in Africa and even together with Black people around the world, many of the comments are definitely Westerners who can't see beyond their noses especially as it concerns Africa.😂 There is likely to be a unification of countries in Africa in the near future as as things are moving a little quickly, and as an African we want it. ZIMBABWE and Botswana have this week just dropped passport regulations as requirement to visit each country, along with Ghana and South Africa dropping Visa requirements. Africa has had enough of the West and unity we realize is the best weapon to defeat these overbearing and demeaning Imperialists.

What about the larger Nilote population in Uganda, Kenya and Tanzania?

@@TheLocalStandardnah it’ll never happen. Most Africans barely get along in their own countrymen, let alone people from other countries 😂. They’ve been blabbing about an East African confederation since independence. It’s a pipe dream

this trend has already started, earlier in East Africa although these pan-African military juntas in Francophone West Africa seem to have more consensus and will outpace everyone else I suspect. South Africa with its small dependencies around it will likely go down a similar route.

Silly man

@@Anverse-14 Silly failed-state colonials and their barbarian imperialist masters!

​@@billyungen are you talking about ECOWAS and France?

@@franzjoseph1837 Putin may dream of taking over ECOWAS and France. I wouldn't doubt that. He is just that delusional -- as are his apologists. The Africans (those who have any brain cells) will some day long for the days of ECOWAS and France.

I don’t think you know the definition of colony Europe is a colony of the USA they don’t make their own decisions Mali does make its own decisions