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Will the Modern Boris arrive Balanced? - T-90M Dev Server - War Thunder 

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With the arrival of the T-90M comes a "New" and highly sought after feature. But will be balanced, or does it hide a sinister truth?
T-90M DevBlog - warthunder.com/en/news/8620-d...
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@rasmusschutten5499
@rasmusschutten5499 7 месяцев назад
The problem is not that the Russian tanks (especially the T-90M) have good frontal armor, the problem is when you shoot them in the side and barely nothing happen. Like look at the 2 shots at 1:37 like what even is that, skill issue 😆
@Rek1emMScar
@Rek1emMScar 7 месяцев назад
Shooting at Track. Has always being an old problem with War thunder.. Since the start of Ground units... Nothing new. Just avoid the damn track when you shoot.
@christiannicolasborgenstee3092
@christiannicolasborgenstee3092 7 месяцев назад
​@@Rek1emMScar its in no way exclusive to shots that hit the track, penetrating shots that take out not just one, but several pieces of ammo can and will do fuck all
@dnfluffles772
@dnfluffles772 7 месяцев назад
@@Rek1emMScar To also note, the era hanging off the side does so much in tandem with the spall liner. the 120mm effective era lessens the pen of a dart while starting the shrapnel early, it hits the main armor which dampens the round even more and by the time the dart gets through the spall liner aswell the round has been pretty much lowered to only a few pieces of shrapnel. Idc too much (unless it is game breaking) if gaijin wants to buff or add certain mechanics in the game, I just dont get why the do it to 1 vehicle instead of all the ones who need it or have it IRL.
@wirb3859
@wirb3859 7 месяцев назад
@@dnfluffles772Ok but no way that a single era brick and 50mm of side armor is going to realistically stop a +600mm pen sabot round from point blank range
@EugenGenrich
@EugenGenrich 7 месяцев назад
All russian MBTs (T72, T80, T90) have 80mm of side armor (steel) and a lot of ERA, while for example the Leo2 has 35mm and basically nothing.@@wirb3859
@SilentSlaya
@SilentSlaya 7 месяцев назад
1:37 That first kill on the t90m with even with a t90m is the entire problem with this update
@FXIIBeaver
@FXIIBeaver 6 месяцев назад
You do realize this is a dev server and none of this is final right? It amazes me how when anyone but Russia gets vehicles everything is fine but as soon as a new mechanic is introduced in a tank that isn’t not Russia everyone starts bitching up a storm about something that most definitely not be this way on release. Like no one is crying the gripen can pull 21gs sustained.
@maxrightgame
@maxrightgame 6 месяцев назад
@@FXIIBeaver why would anyone complain about plane on a channel about ground battles? Get real
@FXIIBeaver
@FXIIBeaver 6 месяцев назад
@@maxrightgame shows the hypocrisy of the “community”
@maxrightgame
@maxrightgame 6 месяцев назад
@@FXIIBeaver not a problem when developers are hypocrites themselves, only natural to be drawn together
@FXIIBeaver
@FXIIBeaver 6 месяцев назад
@@maxrightgame except they aren’t. There is literally no bias. Bias is bad for business.
@whiteshark450
@whiteshark450 7 месяцев назад
The difference between this and t-80 is, we all knew t-80bvm had an invisible spall liner. Gaijin is taking us for idiots but were like ok fine well bite the bullet but now, gaijin is openly putting bias over other tanks.
@Boris_The_Turtle
@Boris_The_Turtle 7 месяцев назад
I don’t think it had an invisible spall liner, I just thought it was a crappy model. It doesn’t seem to reduce spall like the actual T-90M liner does from the X-ray.
@cutthroat795
@cutthroat795 7 месяцев назад
Its really just the fuel tanks and the bs ammo charges that eat all the spalling and don’t explode.
@jfv2312
@jfv2312 7 месяцев назад
Yes, the BVM is just poorly modeled and its ammo has some absolutely bullshit damage model, it isn't part of some secret invisible spall liner conspiracy. The T-90M has an spall liner and so it should, the problem here is that other tanks are lacking it and that Gaijin refuses to acknowledge it.
@aidonger42069
@aidonger42069 7 месяцев назад
@@Boris_The_Turtle there was definitely behind the scenes artificial buffs to its armor, I don't think saying BVM has invisible spall liner is that far fetched
@cairok2097
@cairok2097 6 месяцев назад
@@cutthroat795 Most players don't know this but if you use Nvidia ansel freecam to look inside any t-80, youll see that they have a fully armored turret basket. Its basically 360 spall protection for the turret crew. Its thickness is perfectly around 5mm so that it will stop some spalling but will not create any spalling because its too thin for that.
@wirb3859
@wirb3859 7 месяцев назад
I still love how they refuse to use sources that are not classified, even if they COME FROM THE MAKERS THEMSELVES, for Nato vehicles but will fix Russian vehicles because of some propaganda video in 2012
@teci95
@teci95 7 месяцев назад
Like every Russian tank that comes in the game. Balance is just an afterthought
@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933
@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 7 месяцев назад
Gaijin (I think) has said that other vehicles will get spall liners in the future, but how much do you wanna bet that they're saying this to calm the hate being sent their way? Let's not forget about the community manager that got doxed because he labelled the spall liner on the T-90M as "Not a bug" and then suffered the wrath of a pissed off player-base.
@user-it3xy2cw1t
@user-it3xy2cw1t 7 месяцев назад
its a systen issue he just press buttons and system just says not a bug its not manahers fault its gaijin ignorance and theyre community tools
@tomfahey2823
@tomfahey2823 6 месяцев назад
​​@@user-it3xy2cw1tDefinitely a lot of tools in the community, when they think it's ok to dox an employee, just because they didn't get their favourite flavour of lollipop in a video game. What a bunch of whining babies.
@a7md69
@a7md69 6 месяцев назад
Regardless what POS cry baby adult thinks it's ok to doxx ppl over a game? Ppl like that deserves to be banned. Keep crying over nations differences and they'll just limit access to dev servers. There's a disclaimer for a fkn reason. Who cares what nation gets it first.
@KevinCockburn
@KevinCockburn 7 месяцев назад
Justin, this isn't a mordernized Boris, this is the new Vladimir.
@sydney4814
@sydney4814 7 месяцев назад
It's always bothered me, how much easier the stock grind is for Russia when you can get a LRF/LWR as literally second or third mod, while NATO MBTs require it being AT MINIMUM a Tier 4 upgrade that requires upwards of 90k RP down (used to be over 100k) before you can even start researching it, like Leopard 2 PSO requiring 1 tier 1, and 3 tier 2 mods and 3 tier 3 mods before you can even start the grind for the LRF (which is also not including snatching the 16,000 RP tier 1 APFSDS round)
@purplenurp5590
@purplenurp5590 6 месяцев назад
Um lmfao there are like 3 russian tanks with lwr
@sydney4814
@sydney4814 6 месяцев назад
@@purplenurp5590 I included the LWR as it's in the upgrade lol. NATO tanks only get laser rangefinder WITHOUT LWR as a rank 4 mod, like on the Leopard 2A5, 2A6, 2A5 PSO, Strv 122A, Strv 122B PLSS, all of these have their laser rangefinder as a rank FOUR mod, WHICH IS MY POINT, you have to grind 100k+ RP before you can even get a good LRF, vs Russia getting it as the third mod you can get (like 20-25k RP at most, or 36k if you take a detour to get rank 1 APFSDS first... and Russian tanks with stock HE that oneshots top of the line MBTs by touchng their commanders optics have far more use for auto-range-adjusting LRF than a NATO tank does with HEAT FS that doesn't work... it's blatant favoritism.
@alexstewart4762
@alexstewart4762 7 месяцев назад
The russian tanks aren't balanced already, this one will be even worse. This makes it so you can *barely* make it through the side with the best APFSDS rounds in the game, and if it does make it through the armor, it won't do anything. It's blatantly overpowered. It gets advantages that no other tank in the game has. It has armor like no other tank in the game. The ONLY shortcoming of this tank in war thunder is its reverse speed.
@factsforlife0O0
@factsforlife0O0 6 месяцев назад
And thats because its IRL the armor as we can see in Ukraine is JUNK your point stands High and Mighty I like you because you tell the Truth that no one Wants to hear
@firefly9838
@firefly9838 6 месяцев назад
Cry, cope, and seethe German main
@City1Tiger
@City1Tiger 6 месяцев назад
😂​@@firefly9838
@TukiMasterDel69
@TukiMasterDel69 6 месяцев назад
​@@firefly9838You should cry when they fix it, russian Main, go and lose your braincells like russia lose their units during every war
@dg7996
@dg7996 7 месяцев назад
Lower plate shot is 95% two shot to kill t80s, t72,s and t90 for me
@kiranplays2688
@kiranplays2688 7 месяцев назад
Russian tanks go up in weight but get significant buffs to the armor protection. NATO tanks get heavier and heavier with actual 0 buff to the armor.
@oranmcdougall2650
@oranmcdougall2650 7 месяцев назад
NATO crews be putting on weight...
@UAGhostrider
@UAGhostrider 6 месяцев назад
but the sep has remote controlled weapon...
@wha200789
@wha200789 6 месяцев назад
​@@UAGhostriderwhich is literally useless
@UAGhostrider
@UAGhostrider 6 месяцев назад
@@wha200789 i know. All other tanks then the hellcat has it
@user-bj7ky3fo7y
@user-bj7ky3fo7y 7 месяцев назад
I've been waiting for this video. Hopefully, when they update based on, you'll shoot a video too.
@superbrain3848
@superbrain3848 7 месяцев назад
same for me, i wanted to see the T90M ingame. but the way it got implemented is kinda fishy. Cant wait for Gaijin to add the T90M Obr 2022 in 2 patches just adding the Arena Hardkill APS
@nick4819
@nick4819 7 месяцев назад
I'm sure it'll have like 40 charges as well. You know, because Russian tech is best and most modern tech. These people put TIRES on their airplanes to protect it from drones and missiles. Fucking tires off of fucking Lada's. But Russia is supposed to be innovative and most advanced tech...? Come on Gaijin...
@str1k3rex
@str1k3rex 7 месяцев назад
Arena APS exist only under form of blueprints in the T-90M, i don't really think they are gonna implement it anytime soon or at least till Uralvagonzavod actually fields the system
@williewilson2250
@williewilson2250 7 месяцев назад
​@@str1k3rexthe yak141
@TheArcticFoxxo
@TheArcticFoxxo 7 месяцев назад
@@str1k3rex There is proof of it on the T-72B3, though sadly not T-90M as far as I know
@MightyCanadian
@MightyCanadian 7 месяцев назад
@@str1k3rex They clearly don't care about that anymore, Kronstrat, F16AJ, YAK141, Mirage 4K just a few examples. This tank is pure power creep, the only downside to this tank is its reverse speed. hell they even lessened or just straight up removed some of the common weak spots on this.
@McZippyMedia
@McZippyMedia 6 месяцев назад
I feel like this is just a mental anchoring strategy so when they release a 70 dollar DLC, it will appear cheaper.
@_edgemaxxer_
@_edgemaxxer_ 7 месяцев назад
imo they should add spall liner to additional era kit so it doesn’t come stock with the tank
7 месяцев назад
Funny how gaijin adds things nobody asked for to russian tanks like the spall liner on the t90m but they are not willing to give nato vehicles their accurate armor or firepower even after years
@Retronyx
@Retronyx 7 месяцев назад
u should cry harder
@alphawolf1786
@alphawolf1786 7 месяцев назад
​@@Retronyxhe doesn't have to when you're doing it for him
@shirghazaycowboys
@shirghazaycowboys 7 месяцев назад
@@Retronyx "I willingly acknowledge that there's some sort of slanted favoritism and basis for applying new features, but go fuck yourself and your issues with that." Next time say that if you're going to be a weasel
7 месяцев назад
@@Retronyx Its not my fault your parents fight big man so go let it out on someone else.
@warlikecomic2022
@warlikecomic2022 7 месяцев назад
@@RetronyxRussian main spotted
@APPLECAKEPIE3477
@APPLECAKEPIE3477 7 месяцев назад
nice video man, and the problem is always how the devs have coded the soviets tanks for top tier, both China and Russia are the same, you shoot them and is all RNG, the fact that a Turms can pen a SEP or the 2A6 among other with no issues and they can struggle is just insanity, i don't mind of Russian tanks can 1 shot any of my tanks, just let me do the same to them as it was 3 years ago ? i dare to say before the BVM introduction, the moment the BVM got added, everything went downhill for other nations, and i know this because i also mained Russia at the start and they were mostly a support nation and wasn't easy to play those tanks.
@ImStiglitz
@ImStiglitz 7 месяцев назад
My first nations was russia too, ill be getting the t90m and su27 before anything else. I just wish they balanced russia, or made the other nations just as strong. I used to play Armored Warfare and i think about it every now and then, its sad where its at now but all the tanks were balanced one way or another.
@ImJustVale
@ImJustVale 7 месяцев назад
Sadly it didnt drop yet :C
@JSDFEnthusiast
@JSDFEnthusiast 7 месяцев назад
I dominated them with my Type 74 G on the beginning days of the dev server but then they did a little bit of updating and I went back to the normal game (Also whats that decal on the top mg)
@keylin4407
@keylin4407 6 месяцев назад
Definitely think you should have way more than fly daily. Keep up the good work. Love it men
@FAL87
@FAL87 7 месяцев назад
the S tank had the modeled spalliner before.
@stole_srb5938
@stole_srb5938 7 месяцев назад
We have almost all modern stuff in the game now,wait we dont have option for changing shell without shooting...hmmm...
@FullAfterburner
@FullAfterburner 7 месяцев назад
Hopefully this Thursday
@Hierachy
@Hierachy 7 месяцев назад
the thing about the spall liner, whilst i am aware that other vehicles have it, to me it wasnt advertised as much compred to the T-90m, i first lerned of such things though an animated video explaining the improvements to the vehicle compared to previous tanks and they made a dedicated mention of the upgrade
@natesiress1057
@natesiress1057 6 месяцев назад
That's because it's a fairly new bit of Russian tank design, whereas in the West it's been common hat for decades. Nobody at BAE, General Dynamics, or KMW would have articles written about the spall liner in their latest Chally, Abrams, or Leopard, because that wouldn't be newsworthy. But if you read manuals on them, or development reports, they list them like every other common feature.
@Panocek
@Panocek 6 месяцев назад
@@natesiress1057 Not really. Russian/Soviet tanks since T-55A had anti radiation lining which also was effective at stopping spalling, so T-90M getting "spall liner" is bit out of blue.
@natesiress1057
@natesiress1057 6 месяцев назад
@@Panocek But the thing is, they're similar but separate features; when NBC protection was new, it was often talked about when vehicles were first introduced with it, but now it isn't mentioned. The same is true of dedicated spall liners; they were noteworthy when first introduced, but after a while became commonplace and so stopped seeing fanfare. I don't deny that NBC linings would help against spall, but a dedicated spall liner is a fairly new feature of Russian/Soviet tank development. Otherwise, why would it be a big deal on the T-90M?
@Panocek
@Panocek 6 месяцев назад
@@natesiress1057 We don't know if its "big deal" on actual T-90M or its just snail having a snail moment and decided to add liner because funny.
@keylin4407
@keylin4407 6 месяцев назад
That’s crazy I forgot he only has almost 70 K followers. I thought he had over 200.
@htanpiasmenotorakounis-jz1zb
@htanpiasmenotorakounis-jz1zb 7 месяцев назад
When the update drops, will it come with the 50% sale?
@Jkim890
@Jkim890 6 месяцев назад
I say if there are only spall liners for some of the top MBT’s on this next update, some more review bombing is in order.
@spxmm3r
@spxmm3r 7 месяцев назад
its so beautiful
@joesouthson4364
@joesouthson4364 6 месяцев назад
Video idea: Since all three were the separated products of a joint project, you should play the Leopard 1, OF-40, and the AMX-30 just to compare them!
@City1Tiger
@City1Tiger 6 месяцев назад
Y
@gustafgans4048
@gustafgans4048 7 месяцев назад
I have no problem with the fact that they add the T90m. I have a Problem that GAJIN adds a Spall liner (which is standard in nato tanks for years) to the newest tank for Russia and didnt even consider to add it on NATO or any other Tanks. I get the point that Russian Tanks have their weak spots and i also play them a lot and for that i can say that you survive a lot more in RUssian tanks.
@Boris_The_Turtle
@Boris_The_Turtle 7 месяцев назад
They already confirmed it for NATO tanks.
@gustafgans4048
@gustafgans4048 7 месяцев назад
@@Boris_The_Turtle I meant it that way, if the community didn’t stood up they probably wouldn’t have added it to the game.
@williewilson2250
@williewilson2250 7 месяцев назад
​@@Boris_The_Turtleadds it to every nato ifv and aa lmao
@sydney4814
@sydney4814 7 месяцев назад
It's a bit frustrating tbh, just how many things are better in Russian tanks, like autoloader ignoring the tank being on fire/not EVER suffering decreased effectiveness from loader being dead/wounded...and no "NATO hump" that makes it impossible to shoot in the rear-60-degrees angle
@lajossimon6371
@lajossimon6371 6 месяцев назад
T72 is also on my bucketlist . I was a t72 tank driver in the Hungarian army in 99 . I wanna get one.
@oldman8996
@oldman8996 6 месяцев назад
What was the maintenance and training like?
@lajossimon6371
@lajossimon6371 6 месяцев назад
@@oldman8996 How do you mean?
@aleksbestmusic6903
@aleksbestmusic6903 7 месяцев назад
Now let’s wait for BM Oplot
@komrad-o982
@komrad-o982 6 месяцев назад
This is my take, the spall liner should be researchable along with the era packaging.
@saint_alucardwarthunder759
@saint_alucardwarthunder759 7 месяцев назад
Holy shit those flames look like ones from Mass Effect 3, I expect a Reaper event in War Thunder, or Normandy at least...or Reaper vs Normandy
@MrTangent-8
@MrTangent-8 7 месяцев назад
And all the Brits get to counter it is DM-53 and a smoothbore cannon
@ImJustVale
@ImJustVale 7 месяцев назад
Ah, also, one question: What would you recommend to get a big head start to grind USSR/Russia? I want to grind it but I cant decide wheter to get the 11.3 Lineup (expensive but NICE - KA50, Mig23ML, SU39, 2S38, BMP2M, T80UM2, T80UK which I'd all load with a Talisman) or the common 10.0 one (SU25, T72AV, BMP2M, 2S38) which is wayyy cheaper (390€/200€). Thanks for the vid!
@kmriifps
@kmriifps 7 месяцев назад
I am guessing you have another tech tree spaded, if you are completely new to the game do not do either. One thing about russian teams at 10.0: They start to win and may have all 3 caps but once everyone died a single time, the enemy team ALWAYS reverse sweeps. To be honest though, the bmp2m and 2s38 are really powerful at 10.0 (turms is okay too, i dont know about cas so cant tell you) but at 11.3 you will get addicted to the armor and speed of the t80s to a degree where everything else will feel shit. So if I were in your shoes, provided you have toptier experience, go with 10.0 because else you are ruining it for yourself + cheaper + less repair cost.
@araknas3981
@araknas3981 7 месяцев назад
The only thing that's going to grind ground vehicles in that lineup for you is the 2S38. The rest are squadron or event meaning they don't get proper RP outside of 1 rank below them even with talismans.
@QuailCompostie
@QuailCompostie 7 месяцев назад
You are going to severely fuck up your grind time if you go with the 11.3 lineup. Most of your ground vehicles are non-premium, so even *with* a talisman, they're going to be horrifically inefficient at vehicle research, with the exception of the 2S38. If you want to grind the entirity of the tree, your best bet is to go with the 10.0 lineup, as all of them are premiums with the exception of the BMP2M, so they'll cover all vehicles from rank 1 - 7. If you decide you enjoy the tree once you've hit rank 6, THEN you can go ahead and pick up the T-80UM2/UK for your lineup, but do NOT get them to start.
@ollek111
@ollek111 7 месяцев назад
If you're a new player I would recommend premium account as every action you do in a vehicle will receive a bonus from the premium account.
@mfakhripratama2266
@mfakhripratama2266 7 месяцев назад
Go with 10.0 lineup, why would you use 11.3 lineup with many non premium tank, it will severely hinder grind, don't do that
@Sh-epard
@Sh-epard 7 месяцев назад
Sidegrade bias with more Relikt on it. That's a full upgraded bias! Or nicknamed "Spall Liner Case".
@OrdinaryViewer808
@OrdinaryViewer808 7 месяцев назад
The same weakspots? LOL Cant kill it side on with tt pen apfsds rounds lmao
@Rimmless
@Rimmless 6 месяцев назад
How is the Ariete amv this br bro
@GenJackOneill
@GenJackOneill 7 месяцев назад
Russian bias has hit a new extreme with this update. This makes me want to, once again, start vomiting profusely. I havent touched tippy top tier since the BVM was added, and with the M getting added, it still wont be playing it for a long time. Unless they add the spall liners to all tanks that have it, Russian ammo actually starts exploding when hit, muhfreebrams gets its DU, i wont ever be returning. And that depresses me greatly.
@jb7483
@jb7483 6 месяцев назад
I'll forgo the spawl liner in the Abrams, which it has in the tech manual, which is declassified, for the addition of the 829a3 or 4, which can pen any Russian tank frontally. But no round even russian is modeled correctly. I.E. you are not walking away from a HEAT round if it pens or a DPU round that ignites the interior...
@HSSdk
@HSSdk 6 месяцев назад
for one i highly doubt the effectiveness of these rounds against ERA, for two, no, you will not get it, because that would obviously not be balanced
@ivanbarbancon8750
@ivanbarbancon8750 7 месяцев назад
the fact gaijin considers any NATO sources as unreliable about NATO spall liners is an absolute bullshit proof of gaijin devs being totally biased towards russia
@kiranplays2688
@kiranplays2688 7 месяцев назад
time for review bombing i guess. the only language they understand is when there is a potential threat to their earnings
@Kwisss
@Kwisss 7 месяцев назад
7:38 It's the same as the BVM its just your BVM wasn't aced.
@PanzerSteinn
@PanzerSteinn 7 месяцев назад
also we want the BTR-82
@sanmiguel4774
@sanmiguel4774 7 месяцев назад
The 3bm60 got 710mm pen in real life. I hate that bs stats on the russian side
@Corefailure24
@Corefailure24 7 месяцев назад
Ive been saying that about RU shells since the T64A was added, they monkey the shells because they have some mythical armor?(people can't aim for the 90% of the weak spots) the bm60 needs buffed if they add spall liners to nato tanks or its gonna be a slaughter
@daskollektiv4593
@daskollektiv4593 7 месяцев назад
no it doesnt, it has around 630mm
@sovieticodiabetico6874
@sovieticodiabetico6874 6 месяцев назад
no it doesn`t, where did you even get that from?
@thuantanganh3911
@thuantanganh3911 7 месяцев назад
In a fight where you and a russia MBT face each other and you both shoot at the same time, 90% chance you will die. Russia MBTs don't have to waste time to aim at your weak spots because everywhere on your tank is weak spot (except obvious place like turret cheek). They can just point and click then you dead while you have to give 1 - 1.5s (veteran skill) to aim at their weak spots. Not to mention these weak spots sometimes fail to kill the tank. Now with the new T-90M and spall liner, good luck killing it with Abrams or any other NATO tanks except for maybe Leopard with L55
@Em_Youl
@Em_Youl 6 месяцев назад
Tos 1 and t 14 next pls!
@akm4715
@akm4715 6 месяцев назад
How that's happened T90M vs jumbo 6.7 T90M vs su 100 6.7 T90M vs Franch tank 7.3 ???
@HornetCinematics
@HornetCinematics 7 месяцев назад
Justin. Whenever you buy a T-55, I want to see you post a community post of a picture of that parked in front of your house. 🤣🤣
@JustinPlaysTV
@JustinPlaysTV 7 месяцев назад
You think I won't? Psh, ill make the post from INSIDE the tank 😏
@cherrypoptart2001
@cherrypoptart2001 7 месяцев назад
I hope it gets the cope cage as a add on armor package lol
@TheCollector1987
@TheCollector1987 6 месяцев назад
I wanna see it too! I will just laugh
@DaNuclearBomb
@DaNuclearBomb 6 месяцев назад
That is the obr 2022 model this is the 2017 upgrade
@user-tv7fg7wt2d
@user-tv7fg7wt2d 6 месяцев назад
Damn all these people that are complaining about the spall liner. I'm sure the spall liner would be modelled on other tanks later. Yeah, the T-90M is the first to have it modelled, but that doesn't that they have to immediately model it on all the vehicles that have it before showing the T-90M.
@venom23lou
@venom23lou 7 месяцев назад
Can anyone explain why the enemy rank 3
@JustinPlaysTV
@JustinPlaysTV 7 месяцев назад
And another one who failed to watch the video.
@kienngo4601
@kienngo4601 6 месяцев назад
Tbh, if they add a bunch of spall liner to all top tier, thats gonna balance the game by a lot.
@G-san-desuyo
@G-san-desuyo 7 месяцев назад
is that a new anime girl decal on ur remote turret? nice
@shikikanaz4624
@shikikanaz4624 7 месяцев назад
the problem is that russia always get the newest mechanics first before other nation gets them which is already a unfair advantage which is why most people hate gaijin. example, spall liner, on the t90M first before another tanks that even got it 2-3 decades ago, best spaa which outranges all other competetive spaa and had the first smokeless missiles, era that actually has KE protection unlike nato tanks, seems to have spall liner before it even as a thing with ammo disappearing and nato rounds not spalling etc
@kaboomrage4797
@kaboomrage4797 7 месяцев назад
Im surprised you didnt put out a ping on your server
@JustinPlaysTV
@JustinPlaysTV 6 месяцев назад
I forgot.. Was in the middle of a stream xP
@YoRHaUnit2Babe
@YoRHaUnit2Babe 7 месяцев назад
I'd love to finally use a T90 that can Fight in closer ranges than 800m because of it's amazing gun handling, all while pretty much being uparmored a bit
@mich421
@mich421 7 месяцев назад
So is it better than bvm?
@user-it3xy2cw1t
@user-it3xy2cw1t 7 месяцев назад
​@@mich421bvm is like faster t90m with less survivability while t90m is bvm with nore survivability with lower mobility
@Snicshavo
@Snicshavo 6 месяцев назад
That moment when biased country tank get shrapnel catch (plot armor)
@waffles4322
@waffles4322 6 месяцев назад
If you're ever in NorthernVA you should check out the Americans in Wartime museum, they've got the tanks you want 😂
@thomasmanus1837
@thomasmanus1837 7 месяцев назад
Those ERA bags aren’t relikt.. but stuff called 4s24
@deadsnake_war
@deadsnake_war 7 месяцев назад
With egg boxes and sand in them
@ex0ghost837
@ex0ghost837 7 месяцев назад
T-90M OBR 2023 is a whole new monster imo wish we could take such beast
@Nothing-yq2gz
@Nothing-yq2gz 7 месяцев назад
How's it different from it's earlier variants?
@Rek1emMScar
@Rek1emMScar 7 месяцев назад
Relik over Relik.. Cope cage with Kontakt 5.. Yea that thing its stupid.
@m.adrekaal-dziqro8257
@m.adrekaal-dziqro8257 7 месяцев назад
slat armor at the back of the engine replace with era, cage armour in top of turret with extra net, maybe some drone counter measure, and they also said improved reverse speed
@Nothing-yq2gz
@Nothing-yq2gz 7 месяцев назад
@@m.adrekaal-dziqro8257 I've seen the video from Russian army with the T-80s being put back in production with better transmission(supposedly 25km/h in reverse) but T-90M is still yet to show the same. From all the videos I've seen it still got the 'good old' 4km/h reverse speed
@taelorpickel2830
@taelorpickel2830 7 месяцев назад
@@Nothing-yq2gz Basically it has electronic jammers, evne MORE Relikt (stack Relikt atop the Relikt), often times a top armor cage (cope cage) and sometimes Nakidia RAM camo. Nakidia makes it difficult to spot with IR guidance, electronic jammers are used for drones primarily but apparently they can affect thermal sights too. It supposedly has a fourteen-fifteen km/h reverse speed but I am yet to have this confirmed. Oh and they have thermobaric tank-guided missiles. It would be an absolute monster in the game. But I think one tank that would be worse would've been the refurbished T-80BVM tanks made this year. Twenty kilometer per hour reverse speed, top cage armor, more Relikt and cage armor at the front like the T-90M, and electronic jammers as well.
@Corefailure24
@Corefailure24 7 месяцев назад
Just give it its proper ammunition values and HEATFS shells and screw the liners
@cr1pton1c
@cr1pton1c 7 месяцев назад
guys when does the update drops??
7 месяцев назад
Next week probably
@indyjons321
@indyjons321 7 месяцев назад
I probably won’t be playing the update… I’ll be playing Ready or Not instead.
@sanmiguel4774
@sanmiguel4774 7 месяцев назад
Have fun ngga
@romasterkey946
@romasterkey946 7 месяцев назад
Fun fact: it's armor litterslly just got nerfed according to the data mine UFP Composite armor plate: Generic armor quality: .485->.25 Cumulative armor quality: 6.82->1.5 Gun mantlet: 20mm -> 10mm
@HSSdk
@HSSdk 6 месяцев назад
this is pretty much irrelevant, it's one of the tiny pieces of the front armour
@totolescargo
@totolescargo 7 месяцев назад
"things might change" is always what is said to reassure people about Russian vehicles that are OP on the Dev server. I can't tell a single time where these vehicles have become worse on the live release Have you guys seen the ERA on this tank ? It stops every shell coming at a 45° angle Mark my words : the T-90M is going to be the single most powerful ground vehicle added into the game EDIT : The update dropped and ... Nothing changed.
@theDarkside798
@theDarkside798 7 месяцев назад
Then those crazy gaijin mfs did it: best cas best ground = 90% wr daaaa
@zedriver7678
@zedriver7678 7 месяцев назад
the us has the most cancer cas tho@@theDarkside798
@verzache-
@verzache- 7 месяцев назад
Mig 29 when they first tried to release the r 73
@williewilson2250
@williewilson2250 7 месяцев назад
​@@verzache-they only did that because it wasn't working right
@Entrailraider
@Entrailraider 7 месяцев назад
even with spall liner, the breech always exists, and other than the bad spalling the T90M is mid as hell
@BussyGobbler
@BussyGobbler 7 месяцев назад
2:00 * ATF has entered the chat
@a-1tetropilovstava822
@a-1tetropilovstava822 6 месяцев назад
They should have stop with Leo2A5 with DM33 level of modern in the first place.
@nicholasleon7819
@nicholasleon7819 7 месяцев назад
this thing is going to be so fucking busted that spall liner is going to over perform so bad
@kukkkk
@kukkkk 7 месяцев назад
@flareamv5503
@flareamv5503 7 месяцев назад
kinda bummed out they didnt give it real reverse of 16km/h but alr
@deadsnake_war
@deadsnake_war 7 месяцев назад
It never had 16km/h in reverse 😅
@flareamv5503
@flareamv5503 7 месяцев назад
@@deadsnake_war Russian official documents state 16kmh reverse and in footage of ukraine battles u see it going in reverse faster than 10kmh
@daskollektiv4593
@daskollektiv4593 7 месяцев назад
@@flareamv5503 thats a modification, T-90MS I believe
@flareamv5503
@flareamv5503 7 месяцев назад
@@daskollektiv4593 original T90M from Russia
@daskollektiv4593
@daskollektiv4593 7 месяцев назад
@@flareamv5503 what?
@muleyman68
@muleyman68 6 месяцев назад
Now gaijin needs to add the LMUR missile for the ka52 and mi28nm.
@Sinni64
@Sinni64 7 месяцев назад
4:40 there is no logic to it, because all these armour values are just made up BS that Gaijin pulles out of their ass, to make the russian tanks as op as they are right now.
@ZzVinniezZ
@ZzVinniezZ 6 месяцев назад
it annoying how most Russian tank are great against stock NATO vehicle as they got ERA all over the places to against rank 6 - 7 HEATFS stock round while most NATO tanks doesn't.
@farmcat9873
@farmcat9873 7 месяцев назад
Also that Leopard looked a bit on the blue side on the dev server maybe they are gonna put in that thermal dissipating camo the Hyperstealth Biotechnology’s light-bending Quantum Stealth material in the game?
@Skyman100
@Skyman100 7 месяцев назад
I am quiting ground and only playing air unless they fix this bias.
@tobi2233
@tobi2233 7 месяцев назад
“Everything is subject to change”🤓🤓
@user-it3xy2cw1t
@user-it3xy2cw1t 7 месяцев назад
i mean if the leo2a7 stays purple im gonna be happiest monley known to man
@kevlar2536
@kevlar2536 7 месяцев назад
I am at your side when it comes to russian/soviet tanks, i dont care how well or how worst they perfoming in real life i just like there Design and also history
@WThunder231
@WThunder231 7 месяцев назад
​@@Brian-qj4kkno its not wtf?
@nsr9072
@nsr9072 7 месяцев назад
​@@Brian-qj4kk xDddd for sure
@taelorpickel2830
@taelorpickel2830 7 месяцев назад
Agreed. They always looked great, and personally, I like Russian and late Soviet tanks way more than any other country. I don't know why.
@coorsbanq
@coorsbanq 7 месяцев назад
@@Brian-qj4kk Def not
@turgeon1235
@turgeon1235 6 месяцев назад
The only feeling I get from this video is that I should never touch top tier ground like ever again. The BVM on crack. I wanna have fun Gaijin not feed into your Russian superiority complex
@Ryan-go6id
@Ryan-go6id 6 месяцев назад
1.2 armor value
@jdawwwgytb
@jdawwwgytb 7 месяцев назад
Can't wait to get my hands on this beauty......yes I main Russia.....
@Solus_WT
@Solus_WT 7 месяцев назад
Why do you call it boris?
@farmcat9873
@farmcat9873 7 месяцев назад
the T90M is straight BS after playing it on the dev server the things to much for other tanks to handle which is such a lie with the highest penetration shell not even being able to penetrate it.
@IzakSemrdoii
@IzakSemrdoii 7 месяцев назад
T90m have better armor than any other russian tank so what did you expect?
@farmcat9873
@farmcat9873 7 месяцев назад
its also the Dev server so bet its gonna change some.@@IzakSemrdoii
@IzakSemrdoii
@IzakSemrdoii 7 месяцев назад
@@farmcat9873 i'm saying in real life
@theneef174
@theneef174 7 месяцев назад
​@@IzakSemrdoiithis is untrue, the ufp has not changed, it just got relikt instead of k5.
@IzakSemrdoii
@IzakSemrdoii 7 месяцев назад
@@theneef174 and relikt offers more protection agaist Ke and Heat , sooo t90m have BETTER ARMOR THAN ANY OTHER RUSSIAN TANK
@ryanqube9132
@ryanqube9132 7 месяцев назад
istg gaijin is going to sell object 640 as a premium
@ElGuije
@ElGuije 6 месяцев назад
Steam review bomb part 2! Do your part lads
@skrpion2332
@skrpion2332 7 месяцев назад
I found it very odd to see Russian tanks being so much overpowered and not even one Ukrainian vehicle in the game while they got a lot of upgraded T-64, T-72, T-80 and even the T-84 Oplot… 🧐 Also other nations should have tanks that at LEAST are able to pen the T-90 M from the sides… which doesn't seem to be the case right now :/
@Boris_The_Turtle
@Boris_The_Turtle 7 месяцев назад
They can pen it from the front and sides. It’s just the spall from the sides that will be reduced, not the penetration.
@notafrog2040
@notafrog2040 7 месяцев назад
where would Ukrainian vehicles go? In the russian tech tree?
@spencerlenz5050
@spencerlenz5050 7 месяцев назад
Gaijin said that due to geopolitics they won't add Ukrainian vehicles
@chungusbooper
@chungusbooper 7 месяцев назад
Ukrainian vehicles can't be added to the Russian tree, period. Plus, they have enough tanks of their own for a separate tech tree now. Hopefully that can go in after Russia's been sufficiently rehabilitated, but right now it's pretty much a non-starter. Shame, since someone's already made a custom model for either the Oplot or Yagatan tank.
@skrpion2332
@skrpion2332 7 месяцев назад
@@Boris_The_Turtle Well thanks for the information, I myself play with French tech Tree as a main so Leclercs and I was a bit worried to see that even the DM 53 (650 mm of penetration instead of only 575 mm for the French OFL F1) was struggling to pen on the sides… So imagine with my poor Leclerc ;/
@airsoftpopcorn
@airsoftpopcorn 7 месяцев назад
I just hate how they are screwing over nato tanks, and specifically the abrams. All ussr/russian mbts show a progression in their armor and firepower. However, the abrams still gets the same hull armor as the 10.3 abrams. The us already has a bad win rate, and it is only going to get far worse. (I am a ground rb player so I don’t care about air rb inbalance)
@l3gacywh33ls2
@l3gacywh33ls2 7 месяцев назад
I think we should all hold our criticism until the update drops and see if anything has improved. Also from what I've heard from the goblins of reddit is that Gaijin has confirmed an armor buff will be coming to the abrams sepv1 and sepv2. I'm also hoping for the hull armor nerf on the 2A7v is a bug because if it isn't then I'm damn well going to call them out on it. We were promised a better leopard with better protection as the strv122, but that isn't the case at the moment.
@alessandro_pelliccione6674
@alessandro_pelliccione6674 7 месяцев назад
Bruh I play with russian tanks but I also have squadron Abrams. With Abrams I make all games at least 3 kills and in good matches i do 6 or more kills. From my experience I can say that Abrams are better than russian tanks. They always die with 1 shot while abrams in most cases need at least 2 shots for die. I don't understand all these babies crying for spall liner into a russian tank. It could however be destroyed with 1 shot of you hit the right spot
@BARelement
@BARelement 7 месяцев назад
As a NATO player I think having things on hard mode makes it kinda interesting idk. Makes me feel good when u get 10-12 kills at TT.
@fire_drake12.arc.24
@fire_drake12.arc.24 7 месяцев назад
Honestly the problem is the Abrams could not be AS shit as it is if they would properly BR them. All they have at least the 120mm variants, is good ammo. That's it. The 105mm M1 is literally the worst MBT in the game. Even the Ariete is better than the M1 Abrams.
@NahIdWin995
@NahIdWin995 7 месяцев назад
Abrams irl, i wont mention in game bec i am not a USA main so idk ur pain. But moving on irl the tank is not that good of a tank (personal opinion, all abrams fan boys that will mention how bad Russian tanks are or german tanks are, know this ur a loser)
@a_crows_edits2745
@a_crows_edits2745 7 месяцев назад
3bm60 is accurate to that tank but all the shell Russia has Ingame in inaccurate. M829a2 is comparable to mango. Ik that sounds crazy but historically that was the competitor and the ma829a3 was produced to be the improvement over mango. America recently started to using the A4 variant but that’s super new
@williewilson2250
@williewilson2250 7 месяцев назад
In what world was a2 ever supposed to be a counterpart to mango?
@sanmiguel4774
@sanmiguel4774 7 месяцев назад
The 3bm60 got 710mm pen in real life.
@jfv2312
@jfv2312 7 месяцев назад
You can't really compare how shells work in WT to how they perform irl. Not to mention, we are still missing a lot of different ammo types and models for different tanks...
@factsforlife0O0
@factsforlife0O0 6 месяцев назад
I hear Russian BIAS when he says he is a Russian MAIN
@davidagerholm6003
@davidagerholm6003 7 месяцев назад
Justin how are you not over a million subs you are the best youtuber and steamer ever
@Evrimomono
@Evrimomono 7 месяцев назад
Justin You can't tell me that it's going to require the same methods used against any other Russian vehicle while failing to destroy one with 3BM60 in 2 sideshots at 1:36 That's not OK
@JustinPlaysTV
@JustinPlaysTV 7 месяцев назад
Yeah I noticed that too, hopefully it doesn't remain like that when it drops
@Evrimomono
@Evrimomono 7 месяцев назад
@@JustinPlaysTV yep We all coping and hoping.
@Datastreamx
@Datastreamx 7 месяцев назад
There's no way it will be balanced lol.
@ksenonscentral1187
@ksenonscentral1187 7 месяцев назад
Genuinely I am sick of cries, yeah the spall liner is good but so are the phoenixes on the tomcat, it's the same thing that happened one nation gets something that others don't, stop crying.
@sadge1234
@sadge1234 7 месяцев назад
buddy if you are having problems with the phoenixes in the current air meta, you genuinely just suck at the game lmao.
@theneef174
@theneef174 7 месяцев назад
Pheonixes are annoying, but not good.
@ksenonscentral1187
@ksenonscentral1187 7 месяцев назад
@@sadge1234 Man i use phoenixes in right hands they are more than good man
@qwaskkn
@qwaskkn 6 месяцев назад
GAIJIN has made a mess of the game's balance. If it weren't for our dissatisfaction with GAIJIN, GAIJIN would even only be lining the T90M. I don't know why GAIJIN updated the new version so early this time. The completion rate of many vehicles is still very low, and there are still many top-level vehicles that have not been lined. I can imagine how bad the new version will be. Maybe I should go to Steam and give WT a negative review.
@joekingsword2150
@joekingsword2150 7 месяцев назад
YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE NICE FOR TEM TO NOTE THE FACT THAT THE MANTLET OF THE CHALLY 2 AND 3 HAS COMPOSITE ON TOP THAT IS UNCLASSIFIED. BUT NOOOOO JUST TO MAKE BRITIAN SUCK IT DOESNT MATTER...
@flo4135
@flo4135 7 месяцев назад
one more reason to do not play it on. Wstern Tanks got better crew compartment much before much before rus tanks and... So not interrestet to play it for longer time.
@TJ042
@TJ042 6 месяцев назад
Russia needs absolutely no new tanks. They haven’t for a while. What we need is balancing to what’s already in the game. The “major updates” usually tend to be focal points for B.S. rather than great big uplifts.
@jakegonzales9550
@jakegonzales9550 7 месяцев назад
It’s just kinda surprising that era adds 200 mm of Amor protection to Kenetic rounds…… era was meant for chemical and doesn’t even work on kenetic types APDS mainly. from time reading about them from historical uses it don’t make sense to me.
@williewilson2250
@williewilson2250 7 месяцев назад
Certain era (mainly Russian) have been designed with countering apfsds in mind, I'm pretty sure they have a thin plate to eject on contact and compromise the rod
@daskollektiv4593
@daskollektiv4593 7 месяцев назад
me when I dont understand something I can easily fact check
@shinobi_o_o___
@shinobi_o_o___ 7 месяцев назад
we all know the T-90 ain't gonna be balanced, especially with the complete lack of any spall liners and whatnot in NATO stuff
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