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This is so sad 🥺🥺

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I felt so sorry for her. I can't imagine being told that the rest of my life was cleaning and looking after the kids. I really hope she's okay, but I imagine she's ended up like every other gypsy woman.

The little sister crying and just being so upset about her future is just heartbreaking and awful. I get the feeling she may have enjoyed school or wanted something different but that choice was taken from her. Poor girl. Hopefully she makes it out if that's what she chooses

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And the worst bit is they don’t even own any houses they’re living in caravans the poor women shut in a small space 24/7 playing the role of a housewife without a house.

@@jessicasarahliddell8883 We have Travellers in the US I live not far from an area with a bunch of them and they all have very nice houses I'm not sure what they do. Now the Gypsies are the ones that have the trailers and most work in construction or they own some carnival rides at least round me its that way but I do live not far from where the carnies all winter over.

@@jessicasarahliddell8883 I watched a show where some do own houses

I remember on the series there was one of the girls that refused to conform and wanted to have a life of her own before she thought about getting married. She had a job and got herself through college but idn't let her colleagues know that she was from a Traveller background because she didn't want it to be used against her.

it isn't that they don't care. They just don't want to know what they are missing out on.

I'm in mainstream american culture, and i wouldn't say this is common, but i used to know a girl, 18, who spends most of her time helping to raise her (many) younger siblings. I'll be shocked if she moves out before she's 25. But she seems content with it most of the time. She's homeschooled and has a reading disability that has thus far prevented her from finishing high school, so it's not like she can really get an education or a good job. Certainly not everyone can live that lifestyle, and it probably depends a lot on your relationship with your family, but for some it's not a bad option.

Agreed 💯

In the uk, once you turn 16 you can leave school, it is not compulsory from 16 which is quite sad for these girls

Things were changing even as this was aired 5 years ago. There are more girls choosing to stay in school. There was one episode where Thelma made a prom dress. Not saying it's across the board but it's happening

You would be surprised, MANY CULTURES view women this way. More than not actually

I think the wedding day IS the best day of their life, sadly. It's the one time they have a say in anything, the only time they decide how something is done. Every other day they have to do what other people tell them, first their fathers and brothers, later their husbands. It's the only day they are sort of free.

Yes! I went to school with travellers and the female travellers were so much more intelligent than their male counterparts. They had the potential to make something of their lives if they stayed in school. For some reason the boys were naturally dumb. All of the boys were in the special class. I think it was just laziness tbh. They never tried. Whereas women grow up being hard workers so they try in school? Idk but female travellers are wayyyyy smarter than male travellers. My intelligent female traveller friend also dropped out age 11. She’s now 19, married with 2 kids. She wanted to be a boxer but wasn’t allowed take classes because she had to stay home and take care of her sisters. She could beat up any boy in our class. Her brothers were allowed take boxing classes. She was absolutely hilarious too. She did steal my pencil case once and only admitted it was her when our teacher checked all our bags and found it in hers 😅. It’s a shame, she was so intelligent and could have made something of herself.

I know! I wish there was a way for her to retain much part of her heritage without holding her back

So sad and unfair 😢

@@putinsgaytwin4272 The girls are probably smarter because they didn't start drinking at 12

Story of my life

agreed

That’s what I said 🙁

I'd go crazy

And half the time they’re either marrying their own cousins or a stranger 20+ years their senior.. 😣

@@maxssister1985 is that still the norm?

It’s not sad they find happiness in family life, not having a career doesn’t mean you’re nothing

Let me introduce you to third world countries

@@AA.176. The documentary shows us you don't need to go far, or are you ignoring facts?

This was done wholesale to the African Americanas by European Americans. Not the first time its happened my friends.

@@AA.176. But .... THIS is NOT about Third World Countries! This is happening in FIRST WORLD COUNTRIES.

One cannot impose their own cultural beliefs and or influence on people who have been doing this for centuries. While they can break the cycle, it is apart of their culture. No one should judge them.

Same

why ? She's not woried about .

@@bartsimpson8616 because illiteracy has always been a method for suppression, too ignorant to know what’s right and wrong, too ignorant to logically argue. Hard to escape the cycle

@@makaylaoneil8361 thay chose to be ignorant , its not hard to ''escape the cycle'' And they not done anything bad to anyone with such life , they keep tradition and they got right to live life as they by that choice.

@@makaylaoneil8361 there is no need to finish university to know what is wrong what is right , This days under ''edjucation'' thay zombified people ,and learn shit ,knows do nothing !! and there is no guaranty that you gonna be happyer if you finish school , Also supression are commited in schools ,specialy in public edjucation modul in ''free'' world countries'', Its better and its important kids to have Fathers and mothers then finish coledge.

She's average pretty, but certainly NOT "stunningly beautiful"! There are many young women far more beautiful, with and without makeup, and she's neither more, nor less pretty than any other 🙄.

@@jb6712 someones insecure 🙄

@@jb6712 facts

@@K5sey stating the truth doesn’t make one insecure. Sounds like you’re insecure for not being able to handle the truth.

@@whatever7588 Putting another woman down and calling her average, is absolutely rooted in insecurity. Why can't they just agree that she's stunning without having to put this woman down, they must be doing it to make themselves feel better

So sad these young women's lives are mapped out. But the husband can live the life he's always led, looked after by mummy n looked after by wife.

what a nightmare, just no choices at all

Isn't this illegal like the law makes sure you go to class well that's the states maybe different there

@Traveller Myths In the south but not the north, its 18, unless you've a full time job. It's not always the woman's choice to stay in school, when taken out at 12, its "must do as mummy and daddy say, or its shunned time" I agree the show only goes on the "bad" stuff, but doesn't show the mammy doing anything, which would be happening! She shows the young ones how to do things, along side them, they made it look like they literally had no mother, and that she doesn't raise her own kids etc.

@Traveller Myths I did just say, "In the south, but not the north" I'm talking about up north. It's mandatory to be in school until you're 18, but there are ways around it, as said. My parents aren't lazy, none of my family are, all very active & productive, and nothing is ever finished, the day is long. The guys work hard, as do the women. In the republic it's a lot different to up here, but I've never met a lazy traveller, you're experience has obviously been a lot different to mine. Have a blessed day 🙂

Not really

They are! Im 28 and not yet married. I believe Im still young for marriage. I feel sorry for her 😔

Yeah, and don’t forget those boys are young too. All of them look like under-cooked little manlets. The domestic abuse must be epidemic in this community.

it’s ok nobody will marry you

Time to grow up. 35 is the begging of middle age. Marriageability only@@ely9777 gets lower as you age. Having children gets riskier with age.

Wtf are you going to do about it?

@@celticscribe7887 It’s not hard to understand nor read Celtic! not surprised that you’re having trouble understanding what I said and what was also said in the video. the video literally said men choose to cover their faces bc ppl knowing they’re ‘gypsy’ causes issues at work, that’s a big sign to stop and reevaluate. get with the program or step out of line bc you’re acting like I said something outrageous ( I did not. )

@@zen-bs7it yeah. It's a big sign to stop with the racism and prejudice against these people. And dumb wokist 14 year old white girls acting like they know what a culture is shouldn't really get a say.

I guess there are other things associated with being a gypsy as well- such as thriving, and for someone who's main business is to take bits and bobs, that could be problematic

Work doesn’t care about it being misogynistic, they care about the fact that gypsies/ travelers are usually unruly people who don’t know how to act in public venues

I don't think it's unjust.Some cultures are just bad.

It's entirely just to judge cultures.

They are raised and groomed to be a wife. In another episode I think Thelma did say that a wedding is the place the single girls could potentially find their future husband.

I feel like how they dress is a testament to the fact that it’s children raising children in their culture. Like if the girls are getting married at 14-18 and having their first kids within before 25 they aren’t really maturing past the “fun 20s” phase and probably don’t see why these outfits aren’t appropriate for kids. Some of them are worse then competition dance costumes which is saying a lot

It's the only meaning we have in the society for men

@@fergieingrid2521 this isn’t appropriate in any way shape or form . It creates a perfect storm for pedophillia

@@kennyb1588 they also have to be "women" at such a young age...they skip being young girls so obviously theyll try to attract a husband at a young age:(

I feel the bride lied and isn't really happy. :) and the daughter is dreading her future as well. It's upsetting they take them out of school so they can't decide what they want especially if they are VERY young adults.

@@pattyfremgen9614 Well said !!

Babette, You are right on point !! Agree 100% !!

What the heck does the mother do all day? Watch their young daughters do all the child-rearing and cleaning?

So true my heart goes out to them , n yes what do their mother do all day for hesvens sake at 13 she is still a little girl herself so sad

I think most these families have multiple trailers and the mothers provide the labor for the other units that they occupy: there’s no way a family of 8 could have all fit in that single trailer the oldest girls were responsible for maintaining.

I've been wondering the same thing

I wondered the same thing. Where the hell are their mothers?!

@@juliestrickland5709 answering to their husband's lol

They're out plying their wares:: Lucky Heather, clothes pegs. Fortune Telling

What does the mother do then? And why do they have to clean that same trailer every day again and again? Don't tell me it's manky next day.

I saw lots of evengical christians raised essentially the same way. It's sad. They do home school to get away with school.

@@michelleclawson4240 what a completely different life that is I do understand when people got married and had children young in the past, but the life expectancy nowadays is well beyond that, so what's the rush? Life isn't just about babies, full belly and clean caravan?

I agree plus the wedding scene where they females can’t drink alcohol. What do you think about that?

@@rprince4293 I think it’s a joke they can’t still keep there culture by giving the women at least a voice otherwise i do not see the reason why these young girls would want it & that young girl crying at the age of 13 bc she no’s she’s to take over from her sister broke my heart, I’m not being funny but Wots her mother doing all day ? They can give a little keep there culture & u’d find they’d maybe be more socially accepted if they did especially by women I’d never let my daughter marry into that kind of life & I don’t mean the Man U luv who u luv but no voice somehow I don’t think I’ll have that worry with my daughter!

Is the American one gypsy her self?

She doesn't say anything negative, just tells the truth of the differences in culture

@@amazingabby25 no, Sondra Celli is not a gypsy.

No she's not a gypsy but they all pay her a ton of money so she would never ever say anything even remotely negative.

Thelma can say whatever she wants!!! Her and her assistant were kicked out a church in one episode!!!! 😂😂😂

Congratulations on going to college!

Congratulations !! I wish the best for you and a great independant badass life

What’s the difference between a traveler girl and this one

I am a romanchial gypsy and we have a lot of the same things we do, except we live in one place a lot longer. We don't have as many of the do's and don'ts as a traveler!! I'm so happy you finished college and did what you wanted.. I left my family behind and haven't regretted it

Your a country person not a traveller

She's absolutely stunning!!

And Margaret.

Yes, shes so cute. Gorgeous hair. Love her accent too

Lizzie and her sister are natural beauties.

@@tinydancer36 totally. Wow

if God would care about those girls whom are still have to lisned to a man, and cant make a life for themselfs...he would make sure they have a own free will...

@@mikivanduyn9630 God does love us but sometimes it is not enough to satisfy the human condition. God won’t rescue you from all your problems believing that God will save you or anyone else will not get anyone anywhere one has to take proactive steps to improve their own situation. The challenge is to keep the faith and to love and believe in God regardless of what’s going on in your life.

Sorry bro but if God had the power to change all this, he would have probably done that already

God doesn't give a shit.

Agreed. Amen xx

It seems all these girls become is a man's slave until they die. Heartbreaking.

then it will be not a culture. if someone want them in progress or change it.. you will not see the culture anymore. 😊🤔

@@KAdams-dr4pc slave already happen in anyway form. most of girl nowdays become slave in media.

@@nurulhuda8146 you evidently don’t know how culture works, culture shouldn’t be oppressive, cultures should develop to be more accepting, culture should be a choice, you can be cultural while still let people be what they be. And I’m sorry but if culture requires children to get married and force girls out of education when they don’t want to then I can’t accept it, there would be no problem if the women after 18 decided to stop education and wanted to get married , then that’s there choice but if a 16 year old has to get married or if a 14 year old has to stop going to school then that’s forceful and unfair.

@@confuzzeledmarshmallow3312 then you make your own culture.. if you want them to be like you way. 😊

she only deserve gloves for cleaning ! She enjoy.

I agree 🥺

I’m a traveler a in te community we live like this and we like it,we do clean angled have a break and so what?

@@Idk-pc2di try to explain to morons who got conserve in theire head insteed brain . She shuldnt clean and do house things , No !! She shuld go in public ''school'' and at 16 she should got at least 25 ''boyfriends'' by the 23 atleast 4 kids from different fathers .She shouldnt be with her family.

@@Idk-pc2di I think it’s more about them presented with no choice you know ? Especially cause many are children so they wouldn’t be mature enough for the choice (according to brain development) so is just not leaving space for the girls to decide if this is how they want to live by leaving school and their friends and getting married while they are still children and having to ask your partner things that aren’t necessary that just doesn’t sit right with people. If an adult wants to live this ways and loves it good for them! But they don’t seem to have a choice and I’m sure there has been kids with plenty of potential that never knew they could do more with their day than cleaning up

Can I ask why you married so young? Was is a cultured thing/arranged marriage? I hope this isn't disrespectful to ask

@@kimberlyjones8152 ,my mother and father were alcoholics. My mother took off. Cps was planning on taking myself and my little brother and sister to foster care. I married my bf. This made me an emancipated minor and my husband and I were then allowed to keep my brother and sister. I did it for my siblings mostly. It just so happens that I married a good guy and it has worked out. Thankfully

@@lisakaye2110 wow that's crazy, I have so much respect for you taking the responsibility for your siblings while being so young and a child yourself

@@annajansen6945 thank you. To be honest, there are times when I would like to see what my life would've been had we just went on to that foster home. My little sister passed away at 21 in a house fire at a friend's. My little brother has been in and out of prison and has been addicted to a string of drugs and alcohol. I really do wonder if I did the right thing. Ya know? But, it's done. I've been married 40 years. We have a houseful of kids, and grandkids and life is good.

@@lisakaye2110 grand kids at 55? My mum is 52 and I’m 16. It will be at least another 10 years till she gets any grandkids.

Serving the husband

That's what I wondered! Who leaves a 13 Yr old doing all those chores? Seems so unfair, and as a teenager you're so tired because you're still growing and need your sleep. Feel so sorry for them, but at least they seem happy enough about it.

@@kezbunny 9

Delegating her responsibilities to others & having more children

@@kezbunny she has never lived anything else that's why

Congratulations to you

@@savantianprince belated thanks

They aren’t allowed to have their marriages not workout. If they divorce the woman get shunned and are looked at as used and dirty woman. It’s pretty terrible.

@@RanndiMarie01 eeesh look at the way people are treated

This is flat out lies I knew 2 girls who were travellers they went to my school they were rlly smart friendly people they had a brother who went there too .

In the gypsy/traveler culture, there is no such thing as a marriage that doesn't work out. They are not permitted to divorce, period. They're stuck with each other, period. Their "religion" also does not permit them to be divorced, period. There are documentaries online about it. Outsiders who know anything about that culture are usually smart enough to just shut up and not say anything about it. Word to the not yet educated.

I don't.I have no respect for cultures which treat women so badly.Such cultures don't deserve respect.

You do not have to 100 percent respect anything. The misogyny and downright evil in some of these cultures does not deserve respect. People need to start calling it out for what it is.

I was thinking the same thing. But I like the lifestyle minus the woman cleaning everything and young marriage.

Her mother is deceased, I believe.

@@pinstripesuitandheels No, Lizzie mentioned asking her her mother about going to the shops.

12:22) That honestly made me cry, the poor girl dropped out of school when she should be thriving and growing and now she has to deal with so much stress.

It's sad but I'm european (I live in Czechia) and I have never seen anything like that here.

i think its better than a modern girl do not know how to clean their house... involved with free sex , be a single mother without complete family.. insecure with their body change with surgery, botox, implant ..🤦‍♀️

Actually the only European countries where this still exists is Great Britain and Ireland. Most Gypsies actually live in the USA tho. I'm from Germany and I've never seen something like this before. Most European countries don't have this culture.

what Europe got to do with them ? Thay live theire traditional lives , and this is better then on her age girls who are progressive got 20 boyfriends , and in early 20s live back with theire parents , and got 3 kids from different daddyes , and thay not do cleaning !!

@@bartsimpson8616 it's sad. Living without future, your day is the same lonely Cinderella fate of cleaning for hours every day (which you don't even need to do) waiting hand and foot for your husband to order you like a servant, can't read or write properly which in case of domestic violence makes it ten times harder to leave. I'd like to think that these girls are smart and capable of so much more than be servant all their lives

Watch teen mom on MTV those girls are morally corrupt . This is their Gypsy costume tradition .

So wrong we learn irrelevant stuff in highschool and nothing of getting a good job because I have to pay for college or part of college to learn something real besides basic math and reading and writing!!!! I know because I'm 19 not to mention we struggle to survive basic life at least they have a place to call home and realize the most important thing is there families but u wouldn't understand that because your weren't brought up that way

Stop shaming different cultures!

Happy to hear but please note my comment was in reference to what was stated in the video so please RELAX and take it out on the editors on the video not me.

@@kiahhill6117 No one is culture shaming dear. As stated before, all of what I stated was mentioned in the video. 👍🏾

On the other hand they never have to work whereas most women in the US and UK today have to look after children AND work. The gypsies just have a different path.

@@janesmith9024 Is cleaning and cooking for the majority of the hours every day not work? Raising kids? Not work?

@@janesmith9024 They work hard everyday cleaning and cooking and taking care of their children as well as their man children. That’s hard work that they don’t get to go home and leave behind because their home is their job.

@@janesmith9024 you dont have freedom at all

@@amandakenneally8475 cleaning and cooking isnt work no. Your not getting paid and it doesn't take long.

The parents used them for slaves as well. So sad.

@@cindyobrien9270 Also the men treat them as their personal slaves.

They are not slaves

@@leondrajohn5841 Just treated like one?

lmaooo fr

Yeah, to benefit the family

@@celticscribe7887 No, it benefits the Traveller men. It's very obvious there is no respect for Traveller women in this 'community'.

@@patriciabyrne5089 they are very respected in our community. You dont even know the culture

Of couse it is but because it's their 'culture' nobody dares interfere.

Sad thing is the girls themselves realise they can be more and want more, but they are not allowed to be anything else but housewife. It is not about lack of education, it is about them being a man's convenience.

Evidently because they travel and can pick up and leave right away, the government is unable to track them or make them keep their kids in school. The narrator said that on a different episode

And what is the legal system going to do? Oh wait nothing due to they keep moving so it's not easy to track them down.

With many children addicted to tablets x box lap tops are also loosing the ability to write with a pen on a physical sheet paper.

they also said they thought it was “fair” that men get to drink but women don’t

Well, maybe not what they REALLY want to do with their lives. Seems more like they are forced into this kind of life. A prison sentence.

Moment to escape their house chores to became a human broodmare, sex doll, maid, and cook for her husband who is at very least 10 years older given the must have a job to marry.

@@LifeInPink999 Well said !! 👍👍

No she does not seem happy at all

True

It is also beautiful and classy

@@AL-mz3dc Classy? Really?

@@JPMJPMI totally agree with Ashley. It's not some heinous Hot Pink, Elle Woods Color that has Swarovski crystals dripping off of it. With 100+ yards of fabric & train with an abhorrent pink,white and black crystal 5ft; With 5 inch hot pink heels to match the Dumpster fire of a dress. So yes, in comparison to what Traveler Brides usually come up with for their ONE day of Beauty, "Freedom" & Extravagance. Lizzy is one of THE Classiest Traveler Brides I've ever seen.

@@sweetlilnymphii7267 😂😂😂

I think she is in charge of that trailer because there is no way in hell the parents and all of the kids fit in to one trailer. So I would guess the mom is cleaning the other one and the youngest of the kids are with her.

She will be doing a lot but it is just not shown

I'll explain it 2 ya basically they rare there oldest till there like 11 12 13 if u get me lol then we take over and they help every little while no theres not a trailer each to clean theres 1 we clean and we make room 4 everyone lol I ain't let social media or sunbeds till I'm 16 not let to the cinema all these things r what my traveller friends are let I'm one of the only ones I no who ain't let who's traveller and I'm not let call round to my friends I'm 15 now

@@nappybappy8035 are you one of the travellers who stopped going to school at 10 because nothing you said made any sense.

@@rachelcookie321 no mong I'm not I'm in school right now and not my fault you haven't a brain in your head to understand xoxo