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Will these motorcycle helmets keep you safe? We put them to the test (Marketplace)

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They're the only thing protecting your head from the pavement in a crash, but are all motorcycle helmets built the same? Marketplace puts motorcycle helmets from third-party sellers on Amazon, eBay and Walmart to the test, and shows how easy it can be to fall for fake safety certifications.
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@Solar55 Год назад

I would have liked to see them lab test an authentic DOT helmet, to see how it compared to the knock-offs.

@briannorwell202 Год назад

More than a few will fail. DOT requires the mfg to send only one sample.

@mickpeterson3722 Год назад

state controlled media wouldnt risk making the state look bad

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

All those high end buckets and all those fancy safety stickers just disguise the same "made in china" junk and those tests are all provided by the same governments who lie to you every day so why do you think they suddenly give a damn about you now?

@DaveF44 Год назад

A rare marketplace L. 1. DOT certification is the worst type of certification out there. A Beanie helmet DOT certified. How could they not have taken 5 mins of research and see the great work Ryan at Fortnine has done on this subject.

@briannorwell202 Год назад

Exactly! Harley sells a DOT pudding bowl helmet full of breather holes.

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

The ONLY helmet I've ever owned for road riding is one of those "novelty" turtle-shell helmets with a "DOT" sticker in back and I've never had a problem...and I didn't spend $500.00!

@hyperx72 7 месяцев назад

@@alexandermacgowan9951 Done any crash testing?

@Republic4ever714 Год назад

As a former paramedic I can tell you that helmets will keep you fairly Safe but once you get over 50mph you chances of becoming a vegetable for life rises sharply.

@LadyUsakoB Год назад

thank you for all what you have done ^_^

@Republic4ever714 Год назад

@@LadyUsakoB THANK YOU!! ♥️🙏♥️ In 23+ years in EMS I THINK I have heard those 3 words maybe 6 times !

@chanhnguyen81 Год назад

Unless you wear full gear.

@Brian-jv8iy Год назад

@everyday tenor i don’t always wear full gear, although i believe it’s better to have it. i just don’t care

@mannyechaluce3814 Год назад

@@chanhnguyen81 true, you will be a vegetable since your head will never survive a 50 mph impact with or without a helmet :D , but your body is intact :D

@800over Год назад

The fact that Amazon and Walmart have these online and take no responsibility is criminal. Have they contacted every person who already bought one of these helmets and told them to return them with a full refund? Anything less is unacceptable.

@MAHGlie Год назад

I've been a rider for over 50 years. Snell was THE standard with DOT being a distant second. No helmet should be polycarbonate (plastic) and you see why in the impact test. Helmets should NOT bounce, but begin to delaminate to absorb impact. You don't want your head to hit a post and bounce causing neck injury. A test we used to do "back in the day" is to drop them on the floor from 6 feet, similar to the impact test in the video. If they bounced they failed. If they hit the floor and stayed, they were typically fiberglass and did not bounce. DOT helmets would bounce, SNELL would not. The expanded foam (styrofoam) inner padding was the secondary absorption medium and would crush as it absorbed the head moving upon impact and also from the shell delaminating. One crash and throw it away. It did it's job. Good video but not in depth enough. Too bad about the fakes coming in from overseas now. Didn't have that problem not too long ago. My helments? Snell approved Arai. Got a $30 head, get a $30 helmet. There's a reason Arai runs $800 and up. Stay safe, dress for the slide, not the ride, and ATGATT. (All The Gear All The Time.)

@MK-hb3xc 11 месяцев назад

Bell created the "If you have a $10 head" advertising, all the while making a polycarbonate helmet of the Star design selling under the Vetter brand. The strap had Bell on it. They KNOW a polycarbonate can be safe. Bieffe actually passed the Snell standards in the 80s with a painted polycarbonate helmet, the paint protected the helmet against the solvents testing. Bell now has their popular MX-9 Adventure helmet doing great and meeting ECE 22.05 standards (probably will meet 22.06 eventually) and is a polycarbonate helmet. Back in 2005 Dexter Ford and Dr. David Thom proved out the polycarbonates were safe and actually would transmit less force to the brain in an impact than Snell and in some cases ECE. It's still true. The newest ECE standard didn't lower the forces to the brain in impact, they increased the speed of impact, now at the point where the speed would make survival nil. Especially in a street helmet.

@EngineeringVignettes Год назад

Don't buy your motorcycle safety gear online.. period. Go to a local shop that sells the bikes and the gear. You can talk to them too and ask questions, try on the helmets, gloves, jackets etc. and find something that fits you well and is comfortable. It's important for the gear to be safety compliant. It's also important that you can feel comfortable wearing it for hours on end while out riding. And stuff hanging off of a helmet, yes it's dangerous but it's also going to get really noisy at higher speeds due to bad airflow. Just my $0.02. Been riding since 1989. Keep the rubber side down Y'all.

@cinnamonrollypoly Год назад

Fortnine is a reputable company if you're looking to buy online.

@rider147b Год назад

I have salad bowls in my kitchen that will protect you more than a DOT-only helmet. If CBC would have done five minutes of research before filming this, they would have found that any motorcyclist with half a brain is looking for an ECE or SNELL rating.

@bobdrummond6540 Год назад

You mean look for an ECE or DOT rating. Stay away from Snell, one of the most outdated standards in the world according to research and test results. BTW, the article "Blowing the Lid Off" (Motorcyclist Magazine, May 2005) found that a peanut butter and cabbage sandwich provides better protection than most motorcycle helmets.

@Bleusilences Год назад

Isn't snell for car racing?

@Bleusilences Год назад

Yes but they are using the same standard, which is better then DOT but worst then ECE.

@mannyechaluce3814 Год назад

Snell is out dated, ECE is the best standard since it is from countries that uses their motorcycle for daily use, not just casual riding

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

I have a dollar bandana that has protected me as much or more than any of those "made in china" knockoffs you find with all those fancy stickers and labels sewn on the inside...

@pepesanchez9812 8 месяцев назад

HNJ is a Philippine local brand and it is not a counterfeit what you got is an original HNJ helmet and it is an absolute shite of a quality. There is a running joke here in the Philippines that HNJ means Helmet Ni Jesus (Jesus' Helmet) because when you caught in an accident you will actually see Jesus in the afterlife.

@classi-cal Год назад

Who the heck buys safety equipment from eBay, Amazon and Walmart.

@johnnycanuck250 Год назад

broke kids just getting into motorcycles and have not done enough research.

@J-Bibble Год назад

No one except the silly people who made this video.

@TheMaverickq 4 месяца назад

@calvincheng14 from amazon, a lot of people buy helmets...it is a multibilion american store...so you are telling me american brands and stores are bad? Noted.

@classi-cal 4 месяца назад

Interesting opinion and questionable rationale. Noted.

@raik3648 4 месяца назад

Poor bastard like me😂

@tuxediomafia Год назад

All the helmets I have purchased here in canada have a "SNELL" rating. curious as to why you didnt cover that? being CBC in canada....

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

Because it's all the same junk whether it's sold in Canada or the US...

@rporobotjack3683 Год назад

Snell keeps an active list of helmets of they certify and in my opinion is the best place to start your investigation before buying a helmet . Not just motorcycle helmets. Do not rely on DOT certification as the standard , Snell standards are higher and also DOT approved for on road use. It has been said , if you have a $50 head , wear a $50 dollar helmet.

@timlocke3159 Год назад

ECE (European Union) certification is very good.

@joesnuffy9036 Год назад

I have atleast a $200 head 😂

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

My suggestion is to do an in depth study of all these so-called "tests" used today and find out exactly what you are putting on your head and then judge whether it's safer to not wear a helmet or to wear one and risk your health or life as a result...get in touch with some motorcycle rights organizations and find out what their research has found and consider all this before putting a bucket on your head...unless the government is DEMANDING you wear one if you want to buy the FREEDOM to ride from them at their price...

@rporobotjack3683 3 месяца назад

@@timlocke3159 I'll look into ECE . Thanks for the tip.

@rporobotjack3683 18 дней назад

@@alexandermacgowan9951 When I ride I wear not only a helmet, but a motorcycle jacket, pants and boots. I consider it self-preservation. No mater how hot it is outside on the street or trail. My choice. 50 years riding and trained ,3 years roadracing before the kids came along.

@canadiancoffee Год назад

keep it up, market place is so healthy for society

@jiafengli7648 Год назад

Even the helmet actually passed the self-certified DOT standard only, it's still a crap, go for ECE or at least SNELL.

@timlocke3159 Год назад

I agree. This is what my own research found.

@bobdrummond6540 Год назад

Actually, you don't have to spend a lot to get good protection. In the article "Blowing the Lid Off" (Motorcyclist Magazine, May 2005), the $79 Pep Boys Raider performed better than the $500 Arai Tracker. According to research and tests, the order is: DOT best, ECE a close second and, in every test scenario, Snell always last.

@OviWanKeno9i Год назад

Marketplace doing awesome work again. Love this!

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

Pure propaganda pablum for the masses...

@cinnamonrollypoly Год назад

Just go look at Fortnine's video on this subject.

@bobdrummond6540 Год назад

If you mean his video from 4 years ago, forget it. I posted a lengthy rebuttal with links to research and studies. He (as well as Yammie Noob and others) always gets the facts about DOT and Snell wrong. DOT is much better than Snell. Fortnine corrected his opinion on Snell last year, though (Snell is Meaningless).

@thamomentum Год назад

@@bobdrummond6540 Hey Bob - I would like to see the rebuttal.

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

Unless he's telling you all this is pure BS, he's lying to you too...

@werta5000 Год назад

I love that we never come up with our own standards, just copy the US standard and call it a day. The DOT spec is old, it isn't meaningless when it's a reputable manufacture. There are new better ratings and standard systems, the government should do more in house tests that hold companies to account

@ConfessionsandCoffee Год назад

Maybe the standard is set high and this is why Canada uses it.

@werta5000 Год назад

@@ConfessionsandCoffee DOT is not A high standard, its the lowest standard around, ECE and Snell are both harder to pass, Moto GP has a new standard that is legitimately difficult to pass

@jerrywhitfield6415 Год назад

ECE, never DOT

@lachlanhudson7404 Год назад

In my humble recommendation, DOT is a trash certification and is only there to let you ride with it on US/Canada Roads. Get something with either ECE 22.05/22.06 or Snell on top if you want a foundation that has updated regulations and actually cares about riders and the sports surrounding motorcycles.

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

...says who?...the government...

@joezafra8353 Год назад

Just my opinion but riding a motorcycle what will really keep you safe when you get in an accident?

@christopherguy1217 Год назад

I wouldn't wear a helmet that wasn't Snell certified. DOT certification isn't enough, it'll only save you from minor impacts, Snell certification is much tougher.

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

Says who, the guys who conduct the "Snell" tests?...probably the same guys who do the "DOT' tests...smile...

@mordecai1484 7 месяцев назад

We're testing helmets. Let's speak to some lawyers.

@gregorystiller975 Год назад

The consumer needs to know that price reflects quality. Not to say you need to spend 900$ for a helmet. A good quality safe snell helmet can be had for 150$ to 300$. Buy your helmet from a honest motorcycle shop or online shop with a good reputation, such as fortnine. DO NOT..buy a used helmet, buy your helmet from ebay, or buy your helmet from Amazon. Stay safe, be a smart consumer, value your life.

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

You don't know that crap is any "safer" than what they claim as "DOT approved" or any of the other competing "approval designations" on the market today...it's all controlled by the government whose main agenda is not your "safety"...they want to control you!

@500ccRabbit Год назад

The DOT does not certify helmets, helmet manufacturers SELF certify. The DOT just enforces it after the fact

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

That's like the government telling you it's for your own good...

@badimpulses17 Месяц назад

Half helmets is DOT certified too. 😂

@christianguenther1276 Год назад

I've been riding motorcycles since 1988, the ONLY helmet brand that protects my head? ARAI, without question!

@GOLMINER2 Год назад

or Shoei

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

I've been riding motorcycles (both dirt and road) since 1963 and the ONLY thing I wrap around my head is a bandana...not ONE head injury and lots of crashes caused by cagers...I do wear a helmet when I ride dirt just because I ride like a banshee bar hopping on Saturday night and love to ride off cliffs!

@christianguenther1276 Год назад

@@alexandermacgowan9951 There's always a first time. Helmets are MANDATORY in all provinces here in Canada.

@timlocke3159 Год назад

Those helmets were really cheaply made. I'm not sure they'd even protect you when falling off a bicycle.

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

That's why it's written inside EVERY helmet sold today that you should discard the helmet and not wear it any longer if you drop it on the deck just once! GREAT MARKETING SCHEME!

@441rider Год назад

In the 80s it was Snell or nothing. Even my Schuberth a $1100 helmet is not Snell and they wear out if modular type.

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

Same JUNK different label!

@DaveF44 Год назад

CBC, you talk about what makes for a bad helmet. Where is the info on that makes a good helmet and certification? Or has Marketplace become the boomer channel?

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

It's called "they'll believe anything we tell them as long as we market it well" BSing...

@stuffedcrust4522 Год назад

Arai or Shoei. Nothing else.

@timlocke3159 Год назад

Yes. Those are the top two brands for safety.

@chanc2 Год назад

My Shoei saved my life once.😊

@cinnamonrollypoly Год назад

My HJC is Snell and ECE rated. Costed me $150.00. Don't think that the high cost brands are the only ones that are safe. There really isn't much difference in safety. Fit and finish is what you're paying for.

@timlocke3159 Год назад

@@cinnamonrollypoly Yes, my helmet is an HJC. They are not quite as good as Acai and Shoei but are close and are more reasonably priced.

@cinnamonrollypoly Год назад

@@timlocke3159 They're a little noisier and may not be as comfortable, but the myth that expensive helmets are safer is just that; a myth.

@scottenlow5249 4 месяца назад

Buy a helmet from a company that does more than just meets the standard.

@Rexster2022 6 месяцев назад

what a waste of a report. test legit helmets and id be interested

@elcheekoful 11 месяцев назад

What about the 1storm walmart helmets?

@AttyEK Год назад

why didn't you guys test the "real" DOT helmets?

@ALTER_7 Год назад

I would never want to buy a helmet that was JUST DOT rated. SNELL, ECE and FIM are the ratings you want to be looking at if you are searching for a safe helmet.

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

None of them are "safe" helmets, only claimed to be so by some government agency with an agenda who enjoys controlling the general population and telling them what is "safe" and what isn't...all you know is what they tell you...do you believe everything everybody tells you?

@brianhaygood183 Год назад

Arai, Shoei, HJC, AGV. No store brands (looking at you, Bilt) or garbage brands. The more features they add, the worse they likely perform. Don't mess around.

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

Don't you know that all of these buckets are "made in china" and just have different labels and stickers attached to impress you?...and you buy into that BS...hahahahahahaha

@brianhaygood183 Год назад

@@alexandermacgowan9951 I don't care where the factory is, in particular. There is a huge difference between the under $200 helmets and the good stuff that can actually provide some protection. I don't "buy into that.". I have tested it.

@Lambo6fo Год назад

Gear is only important if you wear it. On a side note, I ride wearing a Shoei helmet.

@timlocke3159 Год назад

Arai and Shoei are the best and expensive. HJC is very good but more reasonably priced. Bell is also pretty good but noisier and heavy.

@whoshotashleybabbitt4924 Год назад

A Shoei saved my life. I won’t wear anything else.

@bobdrummond6540 Год назад

@@timlocke3159 Nope. If you look up test results, Arai and Shoei are nice, but not the best, by a long shot. There are several helmets which provide MUCH better protection.

@anoopvabraham Год назад

Good work marketplace 👍🏻👍🏻

@pizzzaboiiii6101 Год назад

This wasn't done very well, I think you could have put in a lot better effort to find some helmets motorcycle riders would actually buy and test in a better way. DOT is just a very basic certification standard, there's more to it. Also anyone who has common sense would recognize buying a helmet from third party seller or ebay is going to be a knockoff. Most motorcycle riders would buy brand helmets or recognizable brands anyways.

@warrente66 11 месяцев назад

anyone tried orz helmet?

@alexcidjavillonar7973 8 месяцев назад

Just buy original brands like 👍 Nexx and Shoei MT helmets

@misbahjassem6971 Год назад

Good job guys

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

Joseph Goebbels would have been proud! GREAT PROPAGANDA FILM!

@matkilau1320 4 месяца назад

Thank you for the test, now China helmet upgraded their quality. We as consumer now can enjoy good quality helmet with low price. Please do more china's helmet crash test, keep up the good job. More china's helmet test = force them to upgrade their quality....

@tangomikefoxtrot Год назад

MELISSA TARSITANO IS A LAWYER WORKING TO ELIMINATE COUNTERFIET GOODS.. so are these two guys

@danahashcroft9482 Год назад

SNELL certification is way better. Worth paying more for it.

@bobdrummond6540 Год назад

Again, another post by someone who doesn't know the facts. Snell is one of the worst standards in the world according to research and test results. See my other comments on this page.

@GPz84 Год назад

@@bobdrummond6540 Agree. FortNine did a vid on helmet ratings, Snell isn't what 99% of people think it IS.

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

From what university did you receive your engineering degree?

@clive0494 6 месяцев назад

these companies like amazon ebay dont give a sht, all about money

@chanc2 Год назад

If you have a $50 head, or think your head is worth $50; buy a $50 helmet

@kaibotski4939 Год назад

get a 30$ helmet if you have a 30$ head..

@pawel115 Год назад

Stick to Arai or Shoei is my advice

@bobdrummond6540 Год назад

Not if you want the best protection. My advice based on research, studies and test results, not personal opinion.

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

Move to a State without a "helmet law" is my advice...and feel the wind in your hair and the sun on your face and know what FREEDOM is all about...

@davidpaul6615 Год назад

If u want to stay safe - NEVER RIDE ON A MOTORCYCLE. 30 yrs. driving cab I witnessed too many nasty accident’s involving bikes & motorcycles. Not just aggressive motorcycle’s , the worst problem is bad drivers who do not look where there going. ✌️

@cinnamonrollypoly Год назад

There is no such thing as completely safe. Yes, riding a motorcycle is more dangerous than driving a car, but driving a car is also inherently more dangerous than sitting at home and watching TV. My point is that life is about accepting risk; what level you're willing to accept is the only difference between a motorcycle rider and a vehicle driver. Yes, I could get hurt some day, and of course I don't want that to happen, but the tradeoff for that level of risk is worth it to me.

@bobdrummond6540 Год назад

true... but in the same breath, one could say "Don't drive a car, don't fly a plane, don't get out of bed." 😂

@newyoungheart Год назад

this is sad

@alexandermacgowan9951 Год назад

What is "sad" is the fact that most Americans today allow the government to take more and more of their FREEDOMS and RIGHTS away every day and tell them what they approve and what they do not...and you have to buy what they approve!