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Will UK Remote ID Show Pilot Location? CAA UPDATE! 

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Hey everyone! With Remote ID now in place across the US, the focus now switches to the UK and what form and differences UK RID will have. One key question our viewers want to know centres around the public having access to the pilot location. Over the coming days, we will be releasing parts of an interview with the UK CAA from our recent trip to the DroneX tradeshow. In this video, Sean brings you an important update from other stakeholders present at the show as well as playing a segment of the CAA interview discussing Remote ID. Let us know your thoughts in the comments!
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@phillipwilliams4674
@phillipwilliams4674 8 месяцев назад
I remember visiting a sea side resort in Devon or Cornwall where the beach side stores were selling performance kites (twin cable) and in all fairness, there were many people buying, and flying these kites because they were reasonably cheap, and enjoyable to fly. As a hobbyist drone flyer, I view the flying of my DJI Mini 2 drone as something similar to flying a kite (though with much more expense). I have read and understood all the legislation, taken the Pilots licence and registered as a flyer and registered my drone. I just worry that the implementation of further regulations will deter new hobbyists like myself. I would not have bothered had the sub 250g route to flying existed, because who wants to invest in a training / qualification program for something that they see as simply being a hobby?
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
I think many people would share your feelings on this. We need to get to a stable position with drone regulation. The changes and uncertainty and the concern it causes is often worse than the changes which finally come! Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.
@PeteCattell
@PeteCattell 8 месяцев назад
It’s good to hear this, but I am still at a loss to understand why drones are subject to ever increasing regulation, when general aviation is not even mandated to use ADS-B.
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
It's an interesting discussion. Partly, I think the lower airspace has moved on so much since the introduction of drones plus the consumer tech has evolved so much. I am not surprised we see more regs but cannot find justification at this level or the amount of constant change.
@c849243
@c849243 8 месяцев назад
Thanks again for your hard work, Sean!
@MikeWestBastion
@MikeWestBastion 8 месяцев назад
Looks like back to self builds for me as it was back in 2014, the more you do, license, registration, courses etc etc, the more they want. I've reached my limitation on compliance and the CAA can do one! The more we nod, the more they want and this CAA drone department needs to justify its existence - NOT WITH MY CASH! Why pay and contribute for the hobby to be licensed, legislated and totally controlled to out of existance. I've jumped through the hoops up until now and you have to draw a red line somewhere and RID is it, however they try to paint it. I've never heard of anything as so ridculous in my life when it comes to Hobbies. I can fly a 20-30Kg Powered Paraglider with less hoops and monitoring to jump through!
@dyna-drone1952
@dyna-drone1952 8 месяцев назад
Hey Sean, I don’t have a problem with remote ID but I do have a problem with the public, knowing exactly where the pilot is if they could set up some kind of a program, remote ID where the authorities can see where you’re at but not the public that would be a great asset and you know that I am in the U.S.
@tazzy3469
@tazzy3469 8 месяцев назад
Glad to see you back fighting our little corner of craziness 🤪😜🙊❤️
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
Thank you sir! Feels great to be back finally!!
@fpvjourney
@fpvjourney 8 месяцев назад
Hopefully the UK version will show that on this side of the pond users concerns are taken into account (I still can't think of any good reason for remote ID to disclose pilot location to everybody in the US...)
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
It is a strange thing to push through. I see the security aspect but that only needs to be for law enforcement etc. It has never made sense to me.
@fpvjourney
@fpvjourney 8 месяцев назад
@@Geeksvana especially in a country where some people really like... the "2nd amendment" 😅
@jonimrye5722
@jonimrye5722 8 месяцев назад
Welcome news Sean in worrying times for pilots. Hope it remains positive best wishes Jon
@johncarold
@johncarold 8 месяцев назад
Hi Sean, I'm so glad that the FAA has held off enforcing RID. I have never thought RID was the correct way of enforcing a hobby. Commercial Drone is a complete different issue. X
@gbkiller007
@gbkiller007 8 месяцев назад
Hi Sean, no issues wuth remote id for live management of the shared airspace but good that you are seeking clarification on the pilot location aspects. Remote ID is a given and its not much differnt to ADSB in relation to air safety so most have no issue. Knowing where I am however.... And historically retrievable data? That would be too far and doesn't aid safety in any way.
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for watching and commenting! I fear the data being retrievable might be something linked to the system being a network based one, and I have a feeling as the UK is relatively small, it will be network...
@gbkiller007
@gbkiller007 8 месяцев назад
@@Geeksvana not by the public hopefully.
@nxsynjs
@nxsynjs 8 месяцев назад
Better news if the non sharing of personal information does happen. But only if you assume the authorities will act reasonably, pragmatically and abide by innocent until proven guilty. It still leaves the door very much open for automatically generated fines that take no account of context, permissions given by AFC, but not on the system and the such like which will then cost the UAS operator time, money and hassle to dispute/prove.
@stevearmett1565
@stevearmett1565 8 месяцев назад
If the public have access to know where the planes/drones are flying it is not hard to find the place the pilots are flying from. If someone wants to have a go they will sadly.
@MikeWestBastion
@MikeWestBastion 8 месяцев назад
If that's the case, then the body managing the remote ID must be held fully accountable under law if their data has aided anyone with malintent to cause harm, they must be prosecuted under the full weight of the law. The CAA will have a 'duty of care' to anyone registered using their system. I can see this being a huge rod for their own back. Too much legislation and restrictions normally ends up eating itself, I'm sure the CAA are aware of this and they don't want mouth pieces like myself reminding them of it. We can't sit here like nodding dogs agreeing to all their plans for further restrictions, legislation and total surveillance without full scrutiny and awkward questions being asked.
@brianbracherphotography
@brianbracherphotography 8 месяцев назад
This is more positive news, but I still firmly believe that if a pilot location could be identified by the public that this would be contrary to the General Data Protection Regulation (UK). By doing so you could identify where a person lives if they fly from their own property. I also do not believe it would be worth the cost of, as they say, it is for historic purposes. Most major critical infrastructure locations already have the ability to identify and track the drone and the controller using Anti-Drone equipment. And this is far harder, if not impossible to prevent or hack. Surely the experience of the US continues to show that Remote ID is just not worth the huge investment that will be required.
@pdtech4524
@pdtech4524 8 месяцев назад
Should the CAA even be regulating the RC model aircraft hobby? I don't see the DfT regulating the RC model car hobby! To be honest I'd rather they concentrate on regulating manned aviation and make that safer. I'm still not convinced they make any difference to the safety of our hobby, which already has a proven safety record and is by far the safest form of aviation. If a bad actor has nefarious intentions, they are certainly NOT going to be a hobbyist or register their model or even install RID.
@barrieshepherd7694
@barrieshepherd7694 8 месяцев назад
I would fear that handing drone/model aircraft regulation away from the CAA would put it in the hands of those who really want drones out of the sky. Who could it be handed to anyway? Any existing body will err towards the desires of landowners, building occupiers, police and Council spoil sports. At least the CAA have so far taken the position that all airborne craft are using common airspace so should have proportional equal access and regulation. The last thing the hobby needs is another QANGO regulating airspace from 0-500 feet or similar.
@pdtech4524
@pdtech4524 8 месяцев назад
@@barrieshepherd7694 The issue I have is over regulation and over complicated rules, to the point the CAA seem to be constantly contradicting their own rules each time they bring a new set out. I fail to see the point of a complex set of rules for something that is fundamentally very low risk and the safest form of aviation by far. This doesn't exactly fill me with confidence that they are fit for purpose, it seems to me they're trying to regulate something they don't fully understand or have the spare resources to get involved with? I'd much rather they stick to regulating manned aviation instead. For the past few decades the RC model flying hobby has been pretty much self regulating via clubs and organisations such as BMFA etc As far as I'm aware there have been no real issues before the CAA got involved? I'm all for fair and sensible regulation that allows model flyers to enjoy their hobby safely. What I'm against is a regulatory framework that restricts access to flying models and prevents people from enjoying their hobbies safely. So I suggest having a more open relaxed approach at the lower end and least risk class ie models below 250g should have full access and no registration and just follow some basic, simple common sense rules. The next tier up to say 500g to have a registration scheme and a few more restrictions as far as where you can fly safely or how close to people etc Then a further heavy model class, where somekind of formal training has to be undertaken, as well as registration, there should also be a licence to pass etc Whether the CAA is the right organisation is up for debate, certainly since they've got involved they've muddied the waters tremendously, have they really made anything safer, wasn't it already safe?
@barrieshepherd7694
@barrieshepherd7694 8 месяцев назад
@@pdtech4524 I can agree with your points - mine is that the Government has to have someone regulating drone use. There is no possibility of going back to 'self regulation' previously enjoyed by model RC aircraft hobbyists because the public don't, in general, like the photography aspect of drones. I suspect that most drones purchased these days are for taking pictures not for enjoyment of a genuine hobby. Unless a new QUAGO is formed by government the only other option is some organisation like the Home Office, who would just ban the whole thing 'on the basis of advice from Chief Constables, DfT - who only have real interest in metal boxes running on rubber wheels along tarmac, Local Councils who would just ban the whole thing for ease and keeping landowners happy - who else is there? We don't know what pressures are being placed on the CAA by the Home Office or Police or landowner hobby groups but I'm sure that the CAA have to tread a delicate line.
@pdtech4524
@pdtech4524 8 месяцев назад
@@barrieshepherd7694 It's a difficult one, I agree but one thing is for sure, the CAA don't seem to have our best interests at heart. They seem to be working against us, NOT for us? I fear a future where our relative freedom to fly, especially lighter and safer models, will be completely removed, just out of ignorance and perceived public 'fear' or government pressure. In fact the public have way more to fear from regular cameras with huge powerful zoom lenses such as the Nikon P1000 which can read the newspaper print from milea away!
@Chilternflyer
@Chilternflyer 8 месяцев назад
Why don't paragliders, paramotors and hang gliders need remote ID and registration? If remote ID gave us BVLOS I'd be for it otherwise the CAA can go and do one.
@lindsayheyes925
@lindsayheyes925 8 месяцев назад
Indeed, we have seen a massive terrorist attack against Israel using powered paragliders.
@simonelliott5956
@simonelliott5956 8 месяцев назад
I have no issue with remote ID if it doesn’t disclose the pilot location.
@StreakyP
@StreakyP 8 месяцев назад
as you say there seems to be no need/advantage in making pilot location public knowledge whereas knowing active drone location could be valuable to many parties... but having said that finding a non-commercial drone pilot wouldn't be hard even if it isn't explicitly shown. If you are VLoS you are not much more than 100m from your drone so standing where your drone is identified you would probably be able to see the pilot anyway (visual line of sight works both ways). The pilot safety argument is interesting.. we also say that FPV shouldn't always need a spotter, in which case you may be looking after the safety of the drone but who is looking after your safety as you stand there blinkered & unaware of who is creeping up behind you to rob you?. We will have to be careful that our arguments do not undermine each other.
@Kovaction
@Kovaction 8 месяцев назад
Welcome to the party (soon). Hope you sort it out better than we have in the USA (because well... you know why)... Cheers!
@deeweeuavp
@deeweeuavp 6 месяцев назад
But it's coming in January 2024 from EASA - And according to their site: All citizens may detect the remote identification information through a dedicated smartphone app. However, only the enforcement authorities will be able to interrogate the database and associate the UAS operator registration number with a name.
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 6 месяцев назад
That is the EASA version. UK Remote ID will be very different. The new CAA UK consultation has details.
@MikeMillerDrones
@MikeMillerDrones 8 месяцев назад
The pilot location is the one sticking point that is making me stay noncompliant. Hopefully the UK does as they said and then maybe the US will follow suit. I know it's usually the other way around, but we can hope.
@TeamYankee2
@TeamYankee2 8 месяцев назад
Remote ID for the UAS location is fine by me.. as long as EVERYONE (Amazon etc. ) are included as part of this... we ALL need to comply. maybe sub 100g should be excluded due to techinacl issues (weight) and self builds without GPS.
@amandajesson
@amandajesson 8 месяцев назад
I would be supportive of location and ID being available to law enforcements if needed, but I would be strongly against it being open to the public. It's bad enough that half the time I don't feel confident enough to fly at all some days for fear of being approached, I can't imagine what it would be like if some random person could just track where I was and follow me out to remote locations like some sort of stalker! And I can imagine it would open up a whole new world of theft if you and your drone could be tracked down on a map! Thanks for the update, always great to know what going on. 😊
@xjet
@xjet 8 месяцев назад
If RID can reduce the death toll associated with the recreational use of multirotor drones by even a single head then it will have all been worth it 😕
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
If we can save one life... That is all we can hope for 😎🤣
@ripit_fpv143
@ripit_fpv143 8 месяцев назад
sure, sure. death is the _only_ statistic to consider with all the stupid things that people have done with drones. terrorizing people by dropping dye crap in their pools causing thousands of dollars in damage, prison drops, flying into sports stadiums, into fire stations, into emergency situations, the list goes on.
@RobR386
@RobR386 8 месяцев назад
What death toll?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@xjet
@xjet 8 месяцев назад
@@RobR386 Oh come on now, you're not suggesting that the risk is not as great as would be necessary to justify this sort of regulation... are you? Have you not read the CAA risk assessment they use to justify all these new restrictions and regulations?
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
@xjet who said that death is the only thing regulations are required for? When has any authority ever suggested that death is the reason they want to increase drone regulations? I think at some point the 'show me the bodies' argument becomes almost a troll comment. None of us want to see unreasonable regulations, but just repeating the same line over and over does nothing but stop people listening.
@logicalfixes
@logicalfixes 3 месяца назад
Thanks for this great channel, so this is a practical question about retrofitting a remote ID module. Take a DJI Mini 4 Pro for example, where would it mount and will it take the drone over the weight limit ? Any answers very welcome.
@checkyourself164
@checkyourself164 3 месяца назад
Mini 4 pro has remote ID hardware inside already.
@DroneFixes
@DroneFixes 3 месяца назад
​@@checkyourself164 Thank you so much, that's good to know👍👍👍
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi 8 месяцев назад
This is VERY good news if it continues to trend this way.
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
Hey John! It would help ease a lot of people's fears for sure. Fingers crossed it makes it to the final regs...
@edcbabc
@edcbabc 8 месяцев назад
So, conclusion number 1 is it's almost certainly coming. Tendering for what it will look like, not whether it should happen at all. No surprise, I guess. I see absolutely nothing good in this - it's just not quite as bad as it might be. It is not remotely acceptable to me. If it comes, and affects anything I fly (all under 250g), that'll be it for me - gone. I will not go along with it. Typical overbearing bureaucracy - "we can, so we will". I suppose this is the skill of presentation, PR and negotiation. By making it initially look really bad, then potentially rowing back a bit, most people - we tend to look at change, not absolutes - will think "Oh, that's better, they listened". Well. I think that is nonsense, it's all just careful presentation of something bad. You still have to pay for it and fit it. It's a weight penalty, a size penalty and a wallet penalty.
@DavidSmith-oy4of
@DavidSmith-oy4of 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, this is just too much to comply with now. All I want to do is fly my toy about. I got the flyer ID and the other one. I'm even considering buying insurance. But remote ID. F that. This is just silly. It's like they want to kill the hobby. Don't know why anyone would go along with this.
@edcbabc
@edcbabc 8 месяцев назад
​​@@DavidSmith-oy4of100% right. Not sure they want to kill it completely, just squash it into so small a space that everyone - especially other moneyed low airspace future users - can forget about it. Same thing, really.
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
Hey Nick! Remote ID as a concept has 'failed' or been pushed away several times in the UK, so we still have that hope to cling to. However, speaking to government, police and regulator, they seem to have a close focus on it this time, so I expect it will become a thing. The hope I hold is that it will be a simple system to deliver on the goals authorities want without being too much of an issue for the hobby moving forward. Where that line is will differ for everyone. Unless you live and fly in a very remote area, it is likely your drone is tracked and recorded already (especially DJI aircraft with unique identifiers). In my opinion, the upcoming fixed penalties will have more impact on hobby drones than Remote ID. However RID is a headline subject which grabs the focus right now.
@edcbabc
@edcbabc 8 месяцев назад
​@@Geeksvana thanks for your comment. I don't much like being tracked by anything - ANPR, CCTV with or without face recognition, remote ID or anything like that. It's just how I see freedom. But, that is not actually my issue with quads. It's the likely size, weight and cost - I'm a home builder of small performance focussed FPV craft, every gram counts and I'm not made of money. If someone wants to track me - we aren't far from Lakenheath and Mildenhall so I bet they do - they are welcome, I break no rules. I just very strongly object to being made to pay - cost, size, weight - for the privilege. And I won't, it would infuriate me to comply with something I see as having zero benefit apart from giving some bureaucrat a warm feeling, given what I do. Cannot speak for others. I don't see fixed penalties affecting me, as I said, I try not to break rules.
@edcbabc
@edcbabc 8 месяцев назад
​@@GeeksvanaI think the odds have been strongly on it ever since the US went that way. One way to view the progress of increasing regulation worldwide is that different countries all see the same problems, another is to think the regulators have something in common with Lemmings.
@inspiredtotired8369
@inspiredtotired8369 8 месяцев назад
Hi Sean, I'd be interested in a future video discussing the future height limits of the Mini 3/4 etc in the UK and Europe. Would flying with a Plus battery then remove the C0 classification and therefore remove the height limit too, for flying up the sides of mountains etc?
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
I have a video coming on this very topic! Should be edited soon. Just need to catch up a little from my time away from the channel.
@inspiredtotired8369
@inspiredtotired8369 8 месяцев назад
@@Geeksvana That's great. Welcome back. We all thought you'd been abducted by Aliens or the CAA 😉
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
@inspiredtotired8369 Thank you! might have been simpler, but sadly it was covid occupying my time 🤣
@Dave-sb4iy
@Dave-sb4iy 8 месяцев назад
Flying a mini 4 pro I n the EU results in a warning stating that it’s not compliant with C0, not only with a plus battery, but also with a mini 3 pro battery! I feel the height restriction will be implemented; you just have to climb the mountain before TOAL 😢
@chriseley9828
@chriseley9828 8 месяцев назад
What about those who would want to steal a pilots great or others that by other past bad experiences may demonise that innocent flyer who may be interrupted from flying (in their lawful activity) and be hassled, for no apparent justification.
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
Hopefully, if they don't show pilot location to the public, it could go some way to helping us fly in peace. Sadly, there is a strong undercurrent of negative feelings towards drone use but hopefully we can win that over eventually.
@-Jka-
@-Jka- 8 месяцев назад
Your last sentence - workable and affordable system is put into place - Are you hinting that pilots will be able to pay their way out of it to avoid it ?
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
No. I am just hoping for a RID system that makes sense and does not have unnecessary financial hurdles. Something to achieve what they are looking for without impacting the end user.
@jamesmartin532
@jamesmartin532 8 месяцев назад
Still sort of sitting on the fence with this slightly, the main drive for me is that anything "remote ID' included MUST be based on actual data and appropriate risk assessment. We are still amongst us still raising the mantra regarding what are the dangers? who if anybody has been put in danger (apart from the drone flyer caught up in confrontation from other Mr or mrs Angry). So much being discussed and considered here with words like 'enforcement' and 'security' without any information or data at all to demonstrate that it is actually a problem.
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
The danger aspect is over quoted in our fight for fair regulations, in my opinion. Nobody has ever said drones are dangerous in that sense, aside from unlikely crashes involving manned aircraft. The issues authorities wish to gain control of are things like voyeurism, dropping into prisons and drones being used to support other criminal activity. These types of issues are not fantasy as the stats already show consumer drones being used. If camera drones in particular come with Remote ID already 'baked in' then there is an argument that many criminals will either move on to other tech to help them or lead to themselves getting caught. So we need to look beyond the constant cries for risk assessments and showing the people hurt or killed by consumer drone flight, in my opinion. There are many reasons to require fair and reasonable regulation other than stopping deaths occurring. If we only regulated what could kill us, how would society function? With the tech increasing in sophistication and ease of use, it is not surprising to see regulations increase. We need to put forward more thought out arguments to protect our use of drones.
@jamesmartin532
@jamesmartin532 8 месяцев назад
@@Geeksvana Sean I agree and support control over issues such as you have described, however those who conduct such activities are very unlikely to have a drone that is registered to anyone let alone themselves. So we endorse a process that places extra control over everybody for the sake of the criminal element. This would/could be fine but it requires careful analysis and oversight to ensure it is not taken further than it needs. Agree to it with little of a challenge and in the hands of the 'stakeholders' it could run amok.
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
@jamesmartin532 100% agree. Do not even get me started on 'stakeholders' and who should be involved etc. Just having an open list of who the stakeholders are would be a good start...
@jamesmartin532
@jamesmartin532 8 месяцев назад
@@Geeksvana yeah, who are they? that in itself is a bit of a concern , stay safe happy flying mate
@adysmith2760
@adysmith2760 3 месяца назад
Slightly related but I can’t find my answer on CAA . I want to buy a DJI mini 4 pro . But want to be legally able to fly increasing altitude in mountain areas obviously above the 120m legal limit . Which category would make me legally able to do this A1 A2 or A3 l think is the levels
@spigot993
@spigot993 3 месяца назад
What about my cox glo engined Airwolf? Come at me!
@Droningonuk
@Droningonuk 8 месяцев назад
Hi sean, with his mention of bvlos does that mean we might get it? Or is that just for certain qualified poeple?
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
Hey! BVLOS is a decent way off for anyone in any kind of routine way. I do not think lower end commercial or hobby users will see it at all, only perhaps a fully automated version in 10 years that will be very little to do with what we call drone flight now.
@Droningonuk
@Droningonuk 8 месяцев назад
@Geeksvana sure would be good though I have uses for it occasionally and feel held back by it
@Night6436
@Night6436 8 месяцев назад
I don't want to be out flying my £1,500 drone thinking that everyone knows my location. Sure I'm always at risk of someone seeing me, but chances are they stay away. But if those people that, shaw we say less than honest, giving them the ability to have a app to pin point us, have to be a big fat NO.
@matthewdray83
@matthewdray83 8 месяцев назад
Need to protect our rights and freedoms also, The police cannot track your car and driving with remote data so why should CAA have the powers? On the other side, if it unlocks BVLOS and more freedoms, in my view thats a fair compromise.
@504smudge
@504smudge 6 месяцев назад
I’d be happy for remote I’d if it allows BVLOS and doesn’t show pilot location. I wouldn’t feel confident flying if unscrupulous people knew where I was flying near them..
@lindsayheyes925
@lindsayheyes925 8 месяцев назад
I don't have a problem with the current authorities in the UK having access to my location - but if Ukraine had been fully occupied, who would be able to access their equivalent of such data, and historic flight data? Stability of rules-based order is not a given in the long term, even if it may be a human right. Public or commercial access to flight data is a problem too: I test my drone at home after software, map and firmware updates. According to the CAA, the geolocation of these tests is visible - this is sensitive pattern-of-life data, just like the personal training routes of soldiers, which Bellingcat found out could be used to discover their homes, second homes, and deployments from Fitbit information shared on Strava. A third consideration is that switching your drone on at home or on a beach to check for FRZs or get a software update is detectable, and the CAA has published its concern that doing so triggers false alarms of uncontrolled drone flights in FRZs - flights which never took place - disrupting commercial air traffic. Filters need to be applied - but they will be exploited by bad actors, which is why the slow flight of powered paragliders by Hamas terrorists into Israel went undetected. The current detection system for drones in FRZs apparently has a hair trigger, apparently. These problems are not easily solved. I can see both sides of the argument - spectacular drone displays may be safer than fireworks, but that capability of a drone swarm could be very dangerously misused to attack mass gatherings or "carpet bomb" an area target.
@TheBionicbone
@TheBionicbone 8 месяцев назад
Bring on Remote ID if it lets others know where my drone is as this is a basic safety requirement I'd fully support it if the drone pilot is not put at risk from uneducated members of the public which has totally out me off the hobby in the last 18 months.
@chriseley9828
@chriseley9828 8 месяцев назад
It absolutely should be in the realm of law enforcement if there are issues, not to go fishing with a sensor and interrupt good, legal, professional flyers.. let’s not taint us all for the fees poor habits and lack of legal compliance.. dies this idea happen with any other sorts of aerial hobbies?
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
100% agree. There is no sense in giving the public access to pilot location. Hopefully it is a good sign that the CAA agree!
@Photoking26
@Photoking26 8 месяцев назад
I feel that it is totally unnecessary for the public to know where the pilot of a drone is. For that matter where the drone is itself. Think about it. What possible use would that be to a member of the public?? Unless of course you want your be confrontational. If that was on your mind then you should be asking the authorities to intervene. Where the pilot and drone locations should be available to them alone. Additionally there has to be a data protection implication in randomly giving that type of access in a non law enforcement scenario?? I as a flyer expect privacy just the same as the rest of the public expects theirs. Again law enforcement is the way forward for anyone with a grievance. 👍
@williamwalton6934
@williamwalton6934 8 месяцев назад
Sean, now that you have the CAA onboard concerning the pilot"s location for RID, don't let it go. That is probably the most important aspect of remote ID in the US that is causing RID to fail. Please learn from the FAA fiasco what not to do in applying RID. RID can work with a little common sense and less paranoia.
@NickHarbornePhotography
@NickHarbornePhotography 8 месяцев назад
Early boom
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
Early and might good looking I hear… Thank you sir.
@NickHarbornePhotography
@NickHarbornePhotography 8 месяцев назад
@Geeksvana good news there i don't want everyone knowing where i hide to fly lol especially when I've usually got 15k of kit in the car
@cheekyoscar1353
@cheekyoscar1353 8 месяцев назад
Good to see you back sean . your looking well . 😀😀😀.
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
@cheekyoscar1353 thank you sir! Feeling good at last!
@dougmilns8845
@dougmilns8845 8 месяцев назад
Surely, if drone location is available then that can be logged during flight. Given that much of the time, the flight will start and (even more likely) end where the pilot is, then pilot location is still available even if it isn't actually broadcast? To my mind there is absolutely no reason why Joe Public should have any reason to be able to track drones in flight. Air traffic controllers - yes, police - perhaps, other airspace users - possibly. General public ... absolutely not! They dont have access to car tracker information, ADSB is not compulsory on manned aircraft - so why RID on drones?
@barrieshepherd7694
@barrieshepherd7694 8 месяцев назад
"ADSB is not compulsory on manned aircraft - so why RID on drones?" - Maybe but ADSB position and data is available to the general public either directly, if they get an appropriate SDR, or through a number of websites. Additionally ACARS data is also available to those with appropriate SDR and SW.
@SunriseWaterMedia
@SunriseWaterMedia 8 месяцев назад
I hope the FAA is watching.
@JohnCuppi
@JohnCuppi 8 месяцев назад
oh Kris, they are watching you, inspecting your roof, with your whoop... (👁_👁)
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
Hey Kris! I think pilot location was taken out of their hands...
@SunriseWaterMedia
@SunriseWaterMedia 8 месяцев назад
@@JohnCuppi John, don't make fun of my Whoop Roof Inspection LLC company! 👀 😄
@xjet
@xjet 8 месяцев назад
@@Geeksvana But let's not forget that it was the FAA who petitioned the politicians back in 2017 to introduce RID in the first place.
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
Whoop Roof Inspections LLC - with the world's smallest RID modules 😂
@gb4ever
@gb4ever 8 месяцев назад
Great video and good interview. Thank you. For me personally I fully support Remote ID as a concept. Possibly see it evolving into a 2 tier system. One app freely available (possibly even with integration into existing drone and aircraft apps) that shows the location of the drones. And maybe a secondary level for law enforcement etc that can show pilot location I wouldn't have an issue with.
@Deadzone2024
@Deadzone2024 8 месяцев назад
Remote ID just a tax full stop. It's going to cost us money and what do we get out of it. Oh I know nothing but being out of pocket. Fun Tax. Wake up people for god sake
@martyncope1449
@martyncope1449 8 месяцев назад
OK, so we are going to get RID. Will this apply to all users of air space ? Micro lights, paragliding all light aircraft and helicopters. This will not stop anyone wishing to do harm to security as they will not have RID, whether it be a drone small model aircraft or something bigger. A car, van, or may be a truck.Why watch law-abiding people that are already registered and are paying for the privilege and nothing in return except more regulations.
@lewiskelly14
@lewiskelly14 8 месяцев назад
I would only accept remote ID if it also came with a relaxation of some rules
@autisticdrone.
@autisticdrone. 8 месяцев назад
Interesting video. I don’t particularly trust the CAA to be fair with drone users. There is mistrust about them, and if they plan to penalise drone users to get them out of the sky. They should not mess with any weight category , especially the 250g drones. There should be a flexibility in the weight category, allowing extra LED lights to be fitted for added safety visual. The included lights on a mini 2 are pathetic, I can’t use my LED strobe on top as it would go 10g over weight.
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 8 месяцев назад
Hey! Thanks for watching. We did quiz them on the sub 250g drone category. Stay tuned for that part of the interview later this week.
@Danny_Roman.
@Danny_Roman. 8 месяцев назад
The drone should only be available NOT the pilot. If a pilot is located its going to cause one hell of an issue.. mark my words. 😢.
@Sailing_Antrice
@Sailing_Antrice 8 месяцев назад
If you know where the drone is then the CAA already state you must be in line of sight and that’s around 150 metres. So that’s pilot location by proxy. If the public can find the drone if the Pilot is operating within CAA rules then they can find the pilot too. The public are woefully uninformed about drone technology and think the camera can see into bedrooms or other private places 10 miles distant and all sorts of stupid stuff. They seldom want to be corrected even patently and politely so this is another way of simply shutting the hobby down which is exactly what the CAA seek to do.
@barrieshepherd7694
@barrieshepherd7694 8 месяцев назад
The public don't need remote ID to find the drone they can see it - if they can't see it then why would they bother to look on an APP?
@ffinybryn
@ffinybryn 7 месяцев назад
Why should I put a Remote ID module on my fixed wing aircraft flying at a registered BMFA flying site
@Geeksvana
@Geeksvana 7 месяцев назад
You won't need to put RID on a fixed wing at a BMFA site. That is specifically excluded. RID has its place in the right format and application. This isn't it.
@bobbailey7024
@bobbailey7024 8 месяцев назад
Angry. I accept that certain areas MUST be protected by law, e.g. airports but how many people have been injured or killed by drones? How much property has been damaged by drones? How much is being spent on this new scheme and what will it achieve? It's just more interference in a generally harmless hobby and without a shadow of a doubt we will be expected to pay for it.
@loc4725
@loc4725 8 месяцев назад
*"the concept [RID] itself is not one we're going to have success fighting, and inststead we'll have to turn our thoughts to..."* Your aquesecent attitude is unfortunately very common amongst flyers here in the U.K., and I think absolutely going to sink RC aircraft flying as a hobby. Case in point: the two clubs near me both require I pay the CAA extortion money* before I can fly there. And yet in the next breath they complain about the rapidly falling membership numbers starting to make them unviable. And the BMFA seems to hold similar sentiments. Excessive regulatory burden kills and in my view will *absolutely* kill the hobby in this country. The end of the days of hobbyists flying pre-built models is in sight; all that will be left is a few outlaws flying their foam board models over some farmer's field. How sad. *As someone who administers and programs systems I can say with a high degree of certainty that it most definitely *does not* cost £12 *a seat* to generate a flyer ID and store their personal details in an electronic retrieval system. If I were to tell a customer, even a big one that I would be out of a job. That cost is absolutely insane but nonetheless consistent with the largesse if not outright corruption of government procurement. And for the avoidance of doubt I have had indirect dealings with government deoartnents. Paying 7x the off the shelf rate is apparently fine if you're friends with the consultant.
@ukdronelife
@ukdronelife 8 месяцев назад
I don't like the idea,, I'm disabled and vulnerable, I don't want anyone approaching me. It puts pilots at risk of abuse and theft.
@Ddraig62SPD
@Ddraig62SPD 8 месяцев назад
You can always rely on a Scotsman to talk clearly, openly and with credibility. Hopefully there are like-minded influencers within the CAA. Makes remoteID a little more more palatable.
@buddyadkins2432
@buddyadkins2432 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, some pilots are pushing the pilot location as a big deal, but is it? Really? About being robbed. Really? Check out your local pawn shop and see if they buy "drones" and what they are willing to pay for them. Pennies on the dollar. Plus, if it is DJI, it has to be unlocked if anyone but the owner tries to operate it. Plus, an FPV pilot always has a spotter (or better have, I do) per the LAW, so that is 2 people the thug has to deal with. And, here both of the FPV crew might be "packing". Now, a thug has to locate the pilot, determine how much he can get (he doesn't want the gear, he wants to convert it to money; ie: pawn shop) and then confront two people. His reward is likely higher to rob someone else. I fly out in the open, in public, for anyone to see. Yeah, no one has attacked me. This argument is just something that sounds like it should make a difference. It doesn't. In the USA, ALL unmanned (drone) flights are, by LAW, required to be within the pilot's or spotter's visual line of sight (unless the pilot has a waive; unlikely). If the flight is LEGAL, the pilot (and his crew) can easily be located without a phone app. I will be installing a RID device and will see if I get harassed.
@TheOriginalSOOTY
@TheOriginalSOOTY 7 месяцев назад
I dont see why they need to have this ID on a plane or line of site helicopter etc without having a camera fitted to it. I thought this sort of regulation was for video, camera equiped drones.
@steelssstu6515
@steelssstu6515 6 месяцев назад
I build my own race and freestyle fpv drones with no GPS and to think these crazy freedom destroying potential new regulations affect RC hobbyists just having fun filming or flying in safe to fly with permissions or club memberships is absolutely disgusting,I've been flying wings ,planes,drones for 8+ Years and now this.i really don't know my country anymore,these are dark days for our hobby and our freedom
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