Willy Does what Wonka NEVER Could... 

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Main problem is that this movie was too whimsical. The world is already magical so wonka didn't really add anything new

I don’t think the fat jokes against the police guy were specifically supposed to be taken as “haha look he’s so fat” but more as “haha look how much he loves the chocolate from the cartel” atleast that’s how I saw it, I thought it was pretty funny

The wildest plot contrivance in this move is that, despite narrowly escaping drowning in a vat of chocolate, Wonka still decides having the giant chocolate river in his factory is a good idea. Maybe this would make more sense if they commited to the unsettling edge Wilder's version had, but it just doesn't mesh with Chalamet's iteration

"You've never had chocolate?!" And you're a grown man who cannot read, Wonka. Something far weirder to me. Glass houses.

I think the Tim Burton version is ABSURDLY underrated. It's got some glaring flaws, but so do the other two. And it helps that it's so close to the source material.

I feel like the movie was written more to be a prequel to the book than the 1971 movie. Chalamet's performance bears far more resemblance to the excitable child-in-an-adult's-body of Dahl's original story than Wilder's shrewd, deadpan, "scary" version.

The sudden transition to the greatest showman made me laugh way more than it should’ve I’m sorry but when I heard the WOOOOAAAAAHHH I was laughing sm 😭💀

"May thy caramel chip and shatter."

My theory is that Wonka is a prequel to the Wily Wonka Experience. They both even have the name Wonka in both.

What I loved about the first “you’ve never had chocolate like this” is Willy did not need to know what the other chocolate tasted like. He was so optimistic and confident with his product, that was all he needed to convey that his chocolate was the best.

Guys the reason why Timothee Chalamet as a young Wonka is more whimsical compared to Gene Wilder’s is because after having his secret recipes stolen by the Chocolate Cartel and locking himself in the factory with no workers to talk to for twenty years is when he goes crazy. That’s why Timmy’s Wonka is more optimistic and hopeful to begin with. By the way, that wasn’t the real Slugworth in the original, he was a man named Mr Wilkinson who was pretending to be Slugworth as part of the test it’s literally mentioned in the original movie. Also the meaning of the Golden Ticket in the end isn’t that Wonka had to appreciate the people he had to share chocolate with. It’s that because throughout the movie Willy just aspired to be the best chocolatier and have the best chocolate store ever he had to learn that making chocolate is mainly about making people happy which he did as the movie progressed

I was fine with Wonka, the main problem for me is that it's technically a prequel. But I just dont see Tim's wonka becoming either Gene's nor Johnny's Wonka. The world feels to different too.

My interpretation of Wonka is that he is a good, eccentric man who was driven into isolation by others’ greed (especially the corporate espionage of people stealing his ideas) - the darkness in Gene Wilder’s Wonka is because of decades of isolation and paranoia around other people, and in a way finding Charlie is him opening back up to the world - while testing people’s intentions to ensure his factory is safe. His eccentricities are genuine, but it’s also a mask he uses to protect himself and his factory.

One plot I wanted in this movie was that wonka would adopt noodle. This could still continue on into the original movie with something like she moved away when she got older. But their relationship was so sweet to me and I wish they didn’t add the random sudden plot to noodles parents. Plus he would get to be a good parent to noodle like his mom was to him

Commenting purely because the Wonka Wonka (Waka Waka) joke is that fucking funny lmfao

So in summation, your opinion on the new Wonka movie is “not mad, just disappointed”

Good video. I agree with a lot of what you said and it accurately summarizes my feelings on the movie as a whole. However, i would like to disagree with you on three main points. First, the similarities and differences with Timothee Wonka and Wilder Wonka. When I was intially watching the movie, I kept having this odd feeling of Timothee being so close to pulling off Wilder but not quite matching the energy. After a lot of reflection, ive determined that most of the issue comes less with Timothee's performance or the even the dialouge and much more so the directorial framing of what was being said. In the orignina Willy Wonka, the odd and off-color things Wonka said were framed non-chalantly. His weirdness was emphasized through by allowing the camera to see him the way that a real person would see him if they were interacting irl. In this new movie, most of the odd or off-color things said were focused on too much. It felt like the director was going "ohhh look how quirky and weird he is. Isnt that so much like Wilder". Which ruined the effect of the writing and performance. In that way, I think the strangeness, mystery, and intimidation of Wonka is lost. The second thing I'd disagree on is the subplots. Even though I agree some things were not properly implemented into the story (the other hotel servants). I would disagree with you on the idea that every subplot needs to comment on something or exist for a specified purpose. Many of the subplots in Wonka exist as comedic fodder for the movie. The chocolate cartel isnt a cartel because they want to make a statment about monopolization or illegal manufactoring. The chocolate cartel is a cartel because its a funny premise to make something as normal and wholesome as chocolate and turn it into a obsessed over substance that it would need a cartel. Which reflects Rahl Dahl's absurdist humor and specifically the obsession that people have over chocolate specifically in the world of Willy Wonka. Its a similar situation with the servents. They dont exist to comment on indentured servitude, but because it leans into the absurdist humor of several very well off, educated, and talented people working for the stupidest people in the movie. Again, i agree that the servents werent well integrated into the story, but i will defend the basis for their existance. Noodle is a slightly different story is that i think she is necessary. Because Wonka as a character is at his best when he's bouncing off someone else. And Noodle serves as a straight man to his chaotic humor. The third thing I would argue on is Willy's want versus his need. I agree on your anaylsis of his want, however, i would argue the point of his need is slightky different enough to create the diparity your talking about in the movie. Wonka's need is not that he "needs to appreciate those around him". His need is to learn how to evaluate himself through things other than his achievements. And one of the ways to do that is to learn to see yourself as others (like Noodle) see you. This aligns much closer with the actual character arc that takes place in the movie. He appreciates people, but he doesnt value himself through the lens of those he affects. Only by arbitrary standards he's created for himself. And by interacting and growing with the side charaters, he learns that his worth and value is not about being the best, its about making a difference with those who truky matter. His mother's "secret ingredient" for the chocolate perfectly shows this. The thing that made the chocolate good wasnt some arbitrary "best" ingredient, its that she took the time and effort to make it for her child.

The slugworth in Willy wonka we see on screen isn’t the true Arthur slugworth. His name is Mr Wilkinson. Slugworth, Prognose, and ficklegruber are name dropped not only by wonka, but also the candy man in various scenes. I imagine that like wonka, the heads of these chocolate factories aren’t known more than their names.

Commenting for engagement. I really am enjoying how thoughtful your commentary on this movie is. You are doing a great job explaining why the movie feels so empty.

Wanka and Noodle definitely don’t go their separate ways at the end of the movie. They have a relationship obviously if this is a prequel to the 1971 movie then that’s how Wonka and slugworth are connected

The bit on the villain song is very interesring to me, i like to think the homage to "Everybody ought to have a maid" is on purpose as Matthew Baynton is kinda known for making comedic parodies (horrible histories). (I also don't mind the tempo but i think that might be becuase it's impossible for me to not have a good time while Baynton is in screen)

Honestly, some characters just domt need backstories, i like the intrigue of not knowing his past, makes him more of a enigmatic character

19:58 i thought noodle being the heir to slugworth chocolates sets up her being the moral test for charlie in the other film. that there would be a legit company who is secretly in cohoots with wonka.

The line where "He seems like he belongs in a Wes Anderson movie rather than a Roald Dahl adaptation" made me chuckle. Are you aware that Wes Anderson has directed five films based on Dahl's works? He did Fantastic Mr. Fox in 2009 and recently released an anthology on Netflix where he adapted four more short stories to film... The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar, Swan, Rat Catcher, and Poison.

Your analysis always makes me want to go watch the film more closely - especially when your review is essentially "it could've been so much better". Not sure I can convince my friends to watch Wonka for a movie night though...

I truly believe they were trying create a Harry Potter like movie. This is way more Wizarding World than Wonka. Which turned me away from it

I must ask: are the Wicked clips here because Joel Grey was a favorite for Wonka back in the day? If so, well played If not, there's a fun fact! I adore your review because I personally didn't love it, but I couldn't put my finger on why. You've vocalized it perfectly.

19:57 Actually, Slugworth _is_ a real person in the Willy Wonka universe and is _not_ Willy Wonka’s ally. Yes, he does exist alongside Fickelgruber and Prodnose. They had sent in spies to steal the recipes for Wonka’s candies in the adaptations that came before. The “Slugworth” you’re referring to in the 1961 movie was an actor hired by Wonka to put the winning kids up to the test to see if one of them would be rightful owner of Wonka’s chocolate factory.

5:17 Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly in The Babbitt and the Bromide 1945! Wasn’t expecting to see them here, haha! ❤

“the movie should end on a high note and timothee chalamet just can’t hit those” DAMN

"On a less serious note, let's talk about police corruption." Another banger vid, Dylan!

for me, an important factor to consider is that WONKA sets place before the information wars, so he is still yet to gain that cynicism we see in Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory, meaning that the traits like whimsy and optimism are greatly magnified while the cunning and such are less developed, so i feel that it's somewhat unfair to compare those two interpretations of the character because of how they're set at different points in wonka's life, and as such are trying to magnify different aspects of the character

Your point about the necessity to expose children to the dangers of the real world through fiction is absolutely spot on. So many parents try to prevent their children from even knowing those dangers exist, and leave their children drastically unprepared for living in the real world once they grow up.

When you egnolaged how the first movie was made for kids while respecting their intelligence, it reminded me of Rhold Dahl- Then I remembered hes the author of the book! He clearly remembers what it felt like to be a kid, and reading his books makes me remember too ❤️

I like the comments that discussed how Timonthee’s version was young and still discovering himself and the world. It makes sense that he does not become the sociopathic and mysterious version yet. He is still in his optimistic phase. I also like this movie as a reimagining because it becomes its own thing. I feel the homage to the original is just that. A homage to acknowledge that they recognize the original, but not trying to copy it. What I love about the music is what some love about Mary Poppins Returns. It pays homage to the classic/traditional musicals, but they are their own thing. While I do agree with your points about some of the writing and characterization, I feel there is much love and care with the making of it. And to me, that is better than the lame remakes that are only made for money and not art or entertainment.

I kinda like that he trusting As that show how much his employees broke him when they sold his secrets.

The hand thing looked like jazz hands to symbolize broadway

Another message in Willy that gets missed is one of accountability, as opposed to perfection. Charlie screws up and makes a decision as bad as any of the other children. The difference is that he takes accountability. While he doesn't do so in words, he doesn't contradict Willy, beg to keep the lifetime supply of chocolate, or offer any excuses or defenses but then he willingly surrenders the EL Gobstopper--which he was NOT asked to do. Many movie protagonists these days are portrayed as perfect just the way they are, and only need others to recognize it or get out of their way... but NO ONE is perfect. That's the beauty of Willy. It's cynical enough to know we're selfish, self-centered beings, but it's hopeful that some of us will rise above it. That's the essential nature of Willy in the movie. I don't see him as a con-man, but a man of contradictions. He is innocent, but he is also world-weary. He is generous, but is a capitalist. He is kind, but is callous. He is flawed and unworthy, but... this is why he is so joyous at the end. Charlie's selfless act doesn't just mark his own redemption, but Willy's, and it puts truth to his hope that goodness exists in the world and thus, in himself. Not only does this lend the character a strong sense of pathos, but it draws a nice parallel with Charlie.

That Tunnel Scene/Hotel California mashup goes way too hard, Good Job!

The Wonka Wonka joke was insane

I'm so glad you said that about the 2005 one. I read the book before I saw the Gene Wilder version so it always sort of annoyed me. Everyone around me seemed to hate the Johnny Depp version, but to me it felt like watching the book actually being adapted.

I have a factual error complaint for this editorial. The man in Willy Wonka who we are told is Slugworth was actually named Mr Wilkins, an employee of Wonka's posing as Slugworth. The Slugworth in Wonka is actually Slugworth

I thought it was funny how fast he had become so big, and that kind of showed how much chocolate he was eating, meaning he always wanted more as they just weren't enough (watered down)

10:22 you could argue that it makes sense since he's still young and naive. As for everything, in this movie he hasn't lived as much as willy wonka, he's still growing as a character

Wonka was a pretty good movie, all it lacked was challenge. Sure, it had a conflict with the bribery, but I didn't really feel like the characters struggled to resolve the conflict. This really shows the strength of the Gene Wilder version because you do see Wonka's struggle to find an heir that has what it takes to succeed.

best outro for this video would've been "or not".

Really enjoy your musical breakdown videos - looking forward to more :)

Willy wonka and the chocolate factory, same as Matilda and other movies in the 90s, were sort of a comfort to me as a child. Like many of my generation, I was basically raised by the TV, so saw lots of different stories and morals through stories in movies and TV. But it wasn't only entertaining and educational but reassuring as, in my situation, I was neglected and abused as a child so watching movies and stories about children with idiotic and/or openly harmful adults around them who basically learn to think for themselves, often by literally battling the adults around them to become better than the adults in their lives. I doubt I expressed that well, but that is part of these movies charms. It's children learning to think for themselves and explore the difference between children who copy their parents' teachings vrs those who challenge them. Or, even better, take the best parts of their parents teaching. Like Matilda literally stands up to her adult bullies, explored how not all adults are safe, trustworthy or worth obeying and she stands up for herself but yet also learns to accept influence from, while simultaneously positively influencing, a safe adult in Miss Honey. And in Willy wonka and the chocolate factory you've got Charlie, a poor child who's experienced neglect and abject poverty but still has experienced some love, within the context of their situation, and that's his normal state. Then as he goes on to explore the wonderfully fascinating chocolate factory where he can eat without worrying but he's also surrounded by examples of other children, who should be his peers but due to his poverty never feels like peers, who're corrupted by their parents to be self destructive. Leading to Charlie needing to decide who he is, what his values are, to think for himself within and despite the expectations of the adults who're trying to influence him. A lot of stories in the 80s, 90s and early 00s were heavily about childism and teaching children morals and values through contrasting child and adult mentalities and moralities.

I'm 17 minutes into a video i just realized was a musical analysis. I started this just off the Wonka story. Got my sub ❤

You really nailed this analysis. When watching this movie myself, I found it a fine enough movie to be enjoyable, but whenever they tried to make it...wonka-esk, it ended up just taking me out of the emersion somehow, and i couldnt really figure out why it felt that way. It felt like they were trying to shoehorn the wonka aspect of wonka in so much that it felt so out of place and looped right back around to being why it DIDNT feel like a movie made to be a wonka movie. It felt like a movie wearing wonkas clothing rather than a movie about wonka. Every wonka action felt like it either hit as funny, quirky or so jarringly "look how funny and quirky willy wonka is!" that it makes the movie feel like its trying too hard. That and this disjointedness of the story that i would look past in most musicals but feels confusing why they included them in a wonka movie when it doesnt really enhance the movie, it just sort of...happens. I feel like if it was trying to be a purely original story, there would be more focus on making the story have a proper theme and have their story decisions enhance the plot. It was a fine movie, enjoyable enough to watch, but it would have been better if it wasnt a wonka movie. Though....I doubt they'd make nearly as much money if that was the case, so it was probably never meant to be.

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A Wes Anderson Wonka movie would have been amazing

Give me the first one with Gene. That version is just awesome. The dude was bumping off kids left and right and people LOVED it! I remember pointing this out to my father and for the first time in years of having seen the show, it was the FIRST time he ever saw it from that point of view. That's the power and depth of the first movie.

I’m gonna give some props to Timmy Chalamet here, I bought him as a young wonka and his singing voice is actually pretty descent

Seeing this then dune part 2 mustve been a trip

I was hoping to see at least one comment referencing Snowpiercer or the fan theory, but all I got was one Dune reference. Just imagine, though: a crossover between Willy Wonka, Dune, Snowpiercer and Infinity Train. _A young Wonka got mysteriously sent into a weird world, finds out it's within a massive and very long train that's continuously traveling in the middle of a desert. He somehow misses the point of the train and why he's in there, journeys through many cars and meeting fellow passengers along, and eventually reaches the engine which is unoccupied. The whole journey made him into a madman. He declares himself the Chosen One, The Messiah - "Muad'dib" as the more veteran passengers prophesized, and he now rules the entire train; he has the most numbers on him out of all the passengers of the train._

I liked wonka, the sheer absurdity of it was very fun for me, the fact that it’s this fun little cute story with songs about a small business man TOPPLING A FREAKIN COCOCAINE CARTEL AND DESTABILIZING A COCOCULT IS ABSOLUTE COMEDIC GOLD. Like every thing about it is so absurdly stupid it’s kinda charming to me, I don’t think it’s amazing but like, I mean, how can I not love a story about a chocolate drug cartel, the cococaine puns are to perfect, and the fact that the magic chocolate hallucinogens are just way to hilariously similar to spice in dune to not make me love it

even though it seems like the movie Wonka is a prequal. i do not think it is not a prequal because there is a movie that was rumored or such to be a prequal you wont think is a prequal until you go into the lore. there is a video talking about that. for me i feel like Wonka is a separate universe. (i know this is not related to the video but i had to mention such possibly.) Wonka vs Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory is two different sides but take willy wonka in two different directions. that is why the movie i am going to mention is a sort of prequal to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory. the movie in question is Snowpiercer which i find interesting. the video i need to mention about that is made by Rhino Stew.

In the original movie, the man who approached Charlie wasn’t Slugworth. He was a friend of Wonka’s posing as Slugworth.

My problem is that it’s so dull colored. It’s boring, it’s NOT wonka. Also I have a hard time imagining that could become the Gene Wilder Wonka, I need insane crazy fantasy and wonder with the occasional fear sprinkled in. Not look how much gray we can add to Wonka’s outfit and lack of insanity! Edit: I love how I commented this before getting to the point in the video where he said the same thing about both wonka’s

I think that you missed that Willy is an early Wonka. He isn't the finished product yet. He's a work in progress. He's becoming Wonka. But he hasn't gone through the life that made the Gene Wilder Wonka yet. This movie starts that journey. At the beginning , Willy is a wide eyed " country boy" . Sure, he's travelled the world, but not the cities. He is forthright and honest , trusting others to be the same. Throughout this movie he runs into dishonesty, lies, and manipulation. The issue here is that those encounters don't seem to affect Willy much, as would be expected were this movie telling the story of how the open Willy at the beginning of this movie becomes the trickster of the Wilder Wonka. It seems like the writers began the idea of a Wonka who starts one way( honest and open), but gets exposed to dishonesty and manipulation, changing him to a more guarded , and , in fact, mysterious figure, but they seemed to have lost the thread along the way. They remembered to throw the dishonesty and con men at Willy, but seemed to forget to have it actually affect him at all. At the end he's still the same open book that he always was.

At 5:17, I think those are the Nicholas Brothers. I confess I had to look up their first names, which were Fayard and Harold. I first became aware of them through clips of their brilliant dance sequence in _Stormy Weather._

Yeh was going to go see this movie until I heard the words “chocolate cartel” and I was just like nah hollywood doesn’t have the ability to pull that concept off.

Never seen Wonka myself but random whimsy might work if it's part of a growth arc into a showman. Maybe he starts out as a magician but that constantly fails him as he learns to become a convincing showman. The growth arc would have to show him using less and less random whimsy while creating a whimsical public persona that creates a lot of mystery.

The best part of the original movie is that the man Wonka is presented fully formed. We don't get and ultimately don't need his origin story. We simply take him as he is.

Wonka was one of the early examples of an actor understanding the character more than the writers

The opening song gave off Aladdin vibes - streetrat, etc. The others sounded like Little Orphan Annie.

This was really thoughtful, thank you. It actually made me slightly interested in seeing the movie, though I probably won't unless I get really bored one day.

It really feels like everyone expects Wonka was a dark character from the start. The Wonka you see from Wilder is a whimsical man who has become a jaded man from betrayal after betrayal. The movie isn't supposed to be about him trusting more. It's the exact opposite. He is going to become less and less trusting until he shuts down his entire factory and outsources all the work to Oompa Loompa's while hiding in his factory alone for years.

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From what I've heard Gene Wilder when he took the role of Wonka wanted his character to be untrustworthy...that's why he wanted his entrance to be pretending to be feeble and falling but then turning that into a forward tumble roll and standing up with a wide smile and presentation. Gene WANTED that to be the moment you realized you couldn't exactly trust Wonka 100% and that on looking back at the movie it could be taken different ways...such as his remarks when bad things happen to the children seeming as if he's either A) uncaring at best or B) taking pleasure in their actions having such drastic payback for them.

My theory is that all 3 willys are different. Wonka version came first and did the golden ticket thing and passed it on to the first movie willy, and then he gave it was passed on until it got to the second movies wonka. If you think about it, all of the movies take place in different time frames so it makes some sense. All of them just changed name to willy wonka to uphold the wonka brand.

It seems like movies can’t take a chance anymore. Even if they let you feel sad, you can’t feel too sad. They try to slip “big issues” in, but they can’t be too deep. It’s like they want to deliver a dopamine hit without doing what it takes to make it happen.

I didn't see why they needed the sidekick tbh. Glad someone thought noodle being added was pointless.

Gene Wilder said he would not do the role unless they made the gag about him coming out with a cane limping, got it stuck in the sidewalk, and then fell into a cartwheel. He created that scene, because on his words, "from that moment on, no one would know when he was lying and when he was not". He made that role.

I found Wonka a really enjoyable movie. Though if one were to have higher critical expectations of it, it would fall kinda short. I love Roald Dahl’s writing style because of how passionate it is. It is whimsical in an almost spontaneous overflowing way, with this dark, slightly disturbing undertone that is masked by the humorous manner in which he is depicting everything. It’s a style that carries over to his short stories for adults too, in fact it only gets more extreme and wildly imaginative in his stories for more mature readers. The Wonka movie was just pleasant all around, there wasn’t really anything that felt “off” about any situation to give it that unique edge the original stories had Someone in this comment section mentioned creating more dichotomy of a dull city and the magic and wonder Wonka brings to it. The Tim Burton movie captured that pretty well I think. I don’t really have any ideas on how to change the story itself (I actually found many of the ideas really charming and good), but visually I think it could have stood to be more striking and bold. Then again that’s a problem many films face nowadays, that ‘clean’ look

8:05 music man, memory unlocked XDD

8:22 Took me totally by suprise, I literally spit out my coffee. Great joke 10/10

While Wonka is whimsical, one of the geniuses of how Gean chose to play the role. Is he played it as the straight man as well.To him the absurdity was normal. I'm do so he made the "normal' peaple come off as the absurd or weird one. Great writing and acting

This is more a technical point than about the quality if the content of the video but, i found it distracting how low the volume is when your talking then the sudden louder movie clips.

Anyone else wondering why this video looks like it was compiled in 1080i and upscaled to 1080p?

i watched wonka, i loved the OG willy wonka, and i must say, i loved wonka and how it matched the aura of the OG. personaly i think he did great at it.

I’m gonna say that I was a bit nervous about this wonka origin story but I think the filmmakers did alright. They worked in a lot of callbacks, they set up the rivalry between him and slugworth and it kept the whimsical mind of the character right where gene wilder left it yet the introduction of the Oompa Loompa didn’t seem to match wonka’s original explanation. I mean, if they stayed to that, we’d see how he had brought on the lot of them instead of one

gene's version of WW can be summed up in one sentence "he is a god dammed ArchFae and the Factory is his Court"

I haven’t seen this movie so to hear the words “assassination attempt” in a Willy Wonka movie threw me lmfaoooo

I remember watching Willie Wonka with my younger brother all the time. Every time I watched it I always wanted to try a Wonka chocolate bar

The tunnel scene was improvised. The fear in the other actors was legit. Wilder did a lot of things ad lib that kept everyone on their toes. They didn't know what he was going to do next, which is what allowed for the darker side of him to show in the way that it did.

I loved Wonka! Don't get me wrong, Charlie in the Chocolate Factory is an incredible movie than stands the rest of time... But Wonka made me so happy and played to my nostalgia perfectly while also being a unique story

Sorry I know this doesn’t really have anything to do with anything but when I saw Mr. Banks the first thing I thought was “What’s Peter Thorndyke doing here?” Then I was like oh wait

The reason Chalamet’s Wonka doesn’t have the same feeling of menace as Wilder’s is because he has not yet been exposed to the horrors of the Business World

The scariest part of the Gene Wilder one to me was the goose part. Made me so scared of deep holes and stuff

The factory is named Pure Imagination

I really need musical movies to start hiring singers

Well I sure feel analyzed and whelmed.

9:42 you pronounced psudo-charleton correctly 29:22 he’s just trying to do jazz hands (flicker fingers if you’re a theater kid) while in an enclosed location

They are both wonderful, a different proposals of the movie n stuff

what about the movie where wonka is fucking psychotic? the one where the factory looks much more industrial, the one with the glass elevator?

As someone who very much enjoyed this movie(I was singing the songs for like a month straight, and went to the theaters to watch it twice) I do have to agree with most of your criticism, it doesn’t really feel like a Willy Wonka movies, but it also doesn’t feel like it was supposed to, which is a bit of a hit and miss, the other 2 are the same plot similar execution, aside from the dentist ending which I found oddly wholesome. Also, I didn’t think about this before but yeah, the city would be completely fine if he wasn’t there, which does take a little away from the entire story edit: watched a lil bit more of the video and I am SO happy I am easy to please EDIT: I also, reluctantly, agree to the IP argument, the movie truly does not encapsulate “The Chocolate Factory” series… but I can also let it slide after Velma

Rules of Hollywood, you cannot make a movie that criticizes the people funding it too hard: See examples such as "The Lorax". They avoid the class divide and other such things they use as window dressing here because your forbidden of exploring those themes too deep. Gotta keep the message squeaky clean, unoffensive, and within the rules post OWS Hedge Funds want.