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Geekbench single core scores is incorrect. You said for Single-core CPU, the M2 Max scored 2076, but then you show Geekbench 6 giving a MacBook Air (2022) a single core score of 2608. Did you give us Geekbench 5 score instead for the Max?
The comparison is not very fair when you run the mac unplugged and keep the windows garbage plugged. Without a wall connection the Intel machine is half slower but still drains the battery in half the time.
@@maminanami9465 Not capable? ROFL. I tested War Thunder with my Samsung G9 49" at the native resolution (5122x1440) and it run the game at 15-17 fps which is still playable. And that was the base M1 chip. If I drop the resolution to full hd, war thunder gets 60-100fps.
No, Apple SIlicon was not a mistake. It is perfect for the type of laptop Apple wants to build. Remember that during this whole comparison, the Mac is on battery life. If you travel and do any of the tasks that both machines did in this video, then the choice is simple, get the Mac. Apple is still years ahead of Intel and NVIDIA in terms of power efficiency.
He gotta stop with the dramatic bait headlines. He doesn't need that to make views. He can do without them and should prioritize keeping the channel serious and reliable starting with the titles.
They're not years ahead. It's just different technology. Apple silicon uses an ARM based processor meanwhile other intel and amd uses x86. RISC is extremely better than x86 and infinitely more power efficent, they are what made smartphones possible. But the problem is that adoption for RISC in the desktop space is still pretty much nonexistent. ARM based processors are like the new kids in the block, only adopted on niche things like smartphones, microcontrollers, apple devices, etc. Meanwhile x86 kinda like runs the entire economy.
I think it’s funny and telling that the Mac was never plugged in to ac power for all the tests. How long would it run and how performant would the pc be on battery alone?
yep. that's quite possibly the worst part about PCs. unplugged they drop performance so much that they're basically tablets with a keyboard. whereas a macbook can still run intensive tasks and graphics.
Even though I don't prefer Apple, I will still agree that the pc will not be able to function at 100% performance. Even if we ignore the battery life completely. Its only Apple who allow same performance throughout the battery cycle.
Wow, great observation! His benchmarks were not apples/apples when the Windows box was plugged into AC the entire time. I have no doubt the Windows machine is better for gaming, Razer is a gaming-focused brand. Apple is more meant for other workloads and does very well with the workloads it was intended to be used for. Overall the MacBook is a better machine for everything BUT gaming. I am not 16 years old and cant buy a machine for solely gaming.
I have this exact Razer Blade 16 w/ the 4080. I also have the new 16" M2 Pro MacBook Pro. I think they're both good devices for the price, but the value is different for the Mac vs. the Razer. The Mac is not the fastest device in the world, but it's just so dang convenient and beautiful to use. The Razer isn't the most powerful Windows laptop out there, but it still bundles a lot of performance to go with great build, great design, and surprisingly good thermals for a gaming laptop. I prefer the Mac 85% of the time, but both computers can do things the other can't do, and they complement each other nicely. This Razer 16 is really well-built and should be a great buy for anybody who can afford it.
because the power profiles that windows has. I don't blame the guy not wanting to fiddle around with the windows power options. Its a mess. I am sure if he had configured it to run at full power while unplugged it probably would of been the same amazing performance.
@@mariojpalomares2514 but still the fact remains that the mac can provide high performance for 10 hours, but on max performance mode windows laptop would last for max 2-3 hours
@@themonkeyman2790 clearly there is a reason why the whole industry hasn't switched to arm. Apple will be Apple being way different. Always has been, and always will.. you are talking 2 different machines for 2 different purposes. Gaming laptops are super spec'd out and battery life is an an after thought. I would not be buying a macbook if its purpose was to game and some extras. They each have their pros and cons. Intel/amd also have specs that last just as much as the macbook. But in this case, it is a spec'd out gaming laptop. To each their own i suppose.
@mariojpalomares2514 No, those window laptop exists for more extensive STEM softwares for engineering, simulation of particles, video game rendering (window pc does it better), hard scientific data or simulations or many other. Why did you think that window still dominate in my corporate or why many engineer profession have still to change to apple. Mac os was thought for 3d animation? Video editing and programming. However, profesion outside of it, it lack severely especially when you are simulating 3d analysis of such deformation of a product for example. I have tried to used as a main for mechanical engineering like solidoworks, Matlab, ansys apdl or workbench and so many other. Window laptop with discrete gpu from even a 1660ti hand down does it faster than Mac os. For me Mac Os is more for content creator, animator and programmer but window and Linux are more for heavy simulations, scientific data and so more heavy load analysis thar simply Mac os still can't compete in that market. So I am tired that apple fan actually with great ignorance thinks that "window laptop" are just for gaming.
@@kyordannydelvalle523 I am Engineer that uses a windows laptop for all of things you describe. If they available on Mac, I'd switch to Mac in a heartbeat. Windows laptops suck, but I've got no other option
Tested the Razer Blade 16 with the RTX 4090 ($5000 here) recently with Davinci Resolve and compared to my Macbook M1 Max with 32 GPU cores(paid 4000 a year ago). With most of the projects, 6K footage, lots of compositing, H265 and BRAW mixed, lots of grading, temporal NR etc. my Macbook still performs ever so slightly better in both playback and rendering (4K HDR, H265 or ProRes/DNXHR). Power consumption on the Razer was around 300W when rendering while 90 on the Macbook. I wouldn't say it was a mistake at all, at least for us content creators.
@@Fordance100 used my windows 1080ti machine using Manjaro Linux in the past and it was indeed much faster but also way more stable than Windows running Davinci Resolve.
They are both great laptops and both do two different things great. The Razer will be hooked to an external monitor and a mouse plugged in, plus the Mac isn't anywhere close as far as the GPU is concerned. I use a MacBook for my laptop and a high-end gaming PC I built myself for gaming.
imagine paying 3000 for a "laptop" just to hook it up to an external monitor. Good monitors cost 1000 upwards. what's the point of the 240hz refresh rate if you're not gonna use it?
@@FORBIDCharlie1986 Or more extreme, imagine paying that much for a laptop that only provides the performance once you plug it into the wall socket. Personally, the fact that you get the same performance on a mac regardless of whether you're on battery or wall power, is the biggest win.
I have this exact Razer 16 4080 model and the Razer 16 doesn't work with my Thunderbolt monitor, lol. I don't entirely mind it because I don't need that to work, but sheesh, you'd think Razer/Nvidia would come out with proper drivers.
Comparison mistake: Test 1: Windows laptop on battery, Test 2: Windows laptop on AC, Test 3: MacBook on battery, Test 4: MacBook on AC (Mac usually have no performance difference, but this is the full picture). Thank you.
It's just always funny how when you guys do these comparisons, the Windows laptop always needs to be plugged in to get the best performance, whereas the Macbook..
@@racistpixel1017 while that may be true, my point is that you only get that performance from Intel while plugged in which almost defeats the purpose of being a laptop.
@@ryoc1 at the end, there is no winner. Some people, like me, need a laptop to work almost everywhere, and need decent performances ... offered by the Macbook Pro (10 or 20% less doesn't mean that one machine is unusable and the other is a beast). Some people only need a laptop to carry the computer from one electrical plug to another electrical plug, and then maybe the PC is a better choice. And some people are gamers, or work in 3D, and then the PC is the better choice. And some people works in ptotography, or video editing, and then the Mac is the best choice. At least, we have 2 choices that have their specificities, and no one is better than the other. So everybody will chose regarding its need. That's all folks.
Switched to apple 2 weeks ago after 30 years on Windows, left my $3500 gaming laptop at home when I moved overseas and never looked back. The battery performance is to good to compete with.
I use my MacBook for work and it is an outstanding laptop. I got a desktop gaming PC so I'm not sad that BootCamp was phased out. I'll never go back to using a windows laptop as my primary computer.
@@theuncannyepicurean Takes some getting used to but the OS's are quite similar once you get used to them. Apple is Apple and truly thinks that there IS a wrong way to use their OS. That's the hardest thing to get used to when you switch.
Am I missing something or was the Windows machine plugged in and the Mac was on battery only. Pretty sure half of those tests would be flipped on their head if the Windows machine was on battery. What wasn't this done?
@@honkai6374 I have a pc laptop that I've used for years. I'm constantly traveling and bringing laptop to shoots, over night video edits and dj sets. A desktop I couldn't fly on planes with. Plugging it in does not make it a desktop. So telling me otherwise is totally missing the point.
@@honkai6374 It’s significantly easier to travel with in comparison to a desktop and monitor combo. Plus, that is quite literally the point of the Razer laptop: to be a desktop replacement.
@恋うHonkai desktop replacement, but yes your correct. Windows mobile gaming/high performance laptops all are meant to be plugged-in in order to take complete advantage of its performance
The fact that the Macbook can perform this good without needing to be chained to a power outlet and no fan noise, the Macbook is simply outclassing the Razer. I use a 3070 Razer 16 for gaming and a 2021 Macbook Pro 16 for FCP.
The thing I like about my M1 MacBook Pro is the fact you get the full performance where ever you go even without a power socket for hours. The Mac wins the portable side of this, if you want the ultimate power or system for gaming and will always use it near a power socket pick the Razer. I think Apple Silicon is the right choice for the MacBook's but it will be interesting to see how the rumoured Apple Silicon Mac Pro works out.
I really, really wish Apple Silicon was a large enough portion of the market for developers to develop games for it. The MacBook pro could be an epic gaming laptop if it had the software support.
@@Piketom1 I read somewhere that besides having to recompile and port the game to ARM, Apple is so persistent to the Metal API, not OpenGL or DirectX, which most games are compatible
@@cameronbosch1213 If you are a Mac user, virtually everyone who uses the computer will do relatively demanding tasks while on battery power. The inability to do anything more demanding than basic office work while on battery was one of the hardest things to get used to when I tried a windows laptop.
@@cameronbosch1213, from what I have read, Macs are meant to run on battery. It"s not a good idea to leave them plugged in while in use. . Keeping them plugged in actually lessens battery life.
@@katseverino1085 Mac has a system in place for years now that learns when you use your laptop. It leaves the laptop at 80% charge the majority of the time and only fully charges right before you typically need it.
The Razor isn’t a ‘laptop’ in the same way that Apple silicon MacBooks are. It’s essentially a desktop machine that is packaged in laptop form, while the MBP is actually viably usable on the go.
The Razor isn't much heavier than the Macbook. The Macs main advantage is energy efficiency, but what number of places would you want to pull out your $3500 computer for a lengthy time and not have the option of a power outlet.
@@blkspade23 I have both, and yes, the Blade 16 is much heavier than the MacBook, and the combination of the power brick + the laptop is much, much heavier than the MacBook + charger, especially considering the MacBook doesn't even need the stock 140W charger and will function perfectly fine on a tiny travel USB-C charger for most uses. And even if you don't have access to power, you can connect it to a power bank. Blade 16 really needs the wall power all the time.
yeah, no idea why geekbench is still present in laptops reviews. Anyway, the i9 it is obviously much faster than M2 in single and multi, though I think that letting a mobile cpu hit 150W (soething like that) is just insanity. Intel should have limited the cpu at 90-110W or something like that, it is still a lot but it is much more efficient, probably loosing only 10% of perf.
@@amex4453 What's the point of testing a portable device when it's plugged into the wall outlet? The point is to be portable, on the go, away from a wall no? You're right that if the mac was plugged in also it wouldn't change the performance results much.
Not a big fan of Razer laptops. Everyone I know who has one, always had issues with it. I prefer Asus for Windows laptops. Their build quality is fantastic, and never had an issue with an Asus product. Although, for your next test, I'd definitely would want to see the comparison between the AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS with the M2 Pro or the AMD Ryzen 7945HX with the M2 Max, specifically on battery life comparison. AMD is claiming 30+ hours of battery life. The 2023 Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 with the Ryzen 9 7940HS and RTX 4090 is running on a 100W USB-C power supply. Not sure what kind of witchcraft AMD are using to get that kind of performance out of a 100W power supply, while similar Intel i9 builds need a nuclear reactor to run.
Interesting. I always had problems with my Asus laptops, from fans cranking maximum speed nonstop, glitchy displays and terrible screen bleed. My Blade 14 purrs like a kitten
It's not witchcraft, most people don't understand what we're dealing with here. 1) Apple has vertically stacked their ecosystem, it's very easy to get better battery/ performance when you control all the hardware/software 2) Apple has always purchased a node ahead of AMD, so with 40% more transistors on a smaller node, this isn't rocket science 3) Windows is cursed. There's a version with all telemetry removed, and it literally almost doubled my battery life moving over, and reduced ram usage by something like 40%
On both Blender-tests the graphs say "higher is better" when it shows the time it took for the laptops to finish. It would be fun to see the render times on the Razor unplugged ;p
It depends actually, I tend to keep plugged in my laptop when I work cause I'm not working while on a train or in a coffee shop. So Razor is a win win to me. If you are a person like that you need a MBP otherwise intel is the way to go
1. on windows machines, you don't need to press the trackpad for the left and right click, 1-finger and 2-finger tap do the work. 2. About the display differences, MacBooks have a Mini-LED display (great for higher contrast ratio than LCD-LED), whereas the Razer has a traditional LCD LED display. 3. You shouldn't compare SRGB (which defines the color space the display is capable of producing) to Mini-LED display, they are different things entirely.
Both MacOS and Windows support tap to click, it's what I use on MacOS and Windows. It's so much quicker than pushing down to click whether it's Solid state or diving board. Also the Razer has a MiniLED model he just didn't pick it up. It's a 4K screen with fewer dimming zones though, I believe around 1000 and it claims to have around 100% DCI-P3 just like the MBP
Re: the trackpad. I have a theory that builders of high end, high performance windows laptops don't put as much effort into the trackpad because they expect most users to use it as a secondary input. If you are already carrying around a large power supply, then a wireless mouse is not that much more to put in your bag.
Yes, he/they should learn how to run tests, one should use a scientific approach rather than random opinion/facts. I have no idea, maybe he was in a rush or something, but this video felt like a disaster after the other (different geekbench version (test that it is in my opinion completely useless anyway), did not specify the browser used for speedometer 2.1, misses points about trackpads, somehow manages to compare srgb with a display technology, figma test was inaccurate)
Funny how you didn't mention one of the major selling points of the razer is it's dual mini-led display that lets you switch to lower refresh rate and higher resolution for "content creation" instead of pure gaming. Also, razer let's you customize the fan profile to crank even more power out of it. Razer is targeting this for gamers, and these two features are far more desirable for most gamers like myself than better speakers and trackpad. This also isn't the best spec razer laptop, and considering how common sales are on windows laptops vs. mac's, I wouldn't be surprised if in a few months a 4090 razer was expensive as the m2 max. These comparisons have some use, but honestly these machines are for different people. As a gamer , I'd be disappointed with the m2 max as id feel like all that power was wasted.
This is not a dual-resolution LED display, but a WQHD and 2.5k IPS display. In order to get the best version, you should pay more, and this is already a significant difference in price. Although, then the display would undoubtedly be an advantage for Razar, since color reproduction would no longer be a weak point.
You’re absolutely correct, I have both and the Razer runs like a literal volcano - battery bulging due to the heat issues. The fan is loud af too. Performance also throttles when it gets hot (which it will) so you’ll never get the advertised performance unless you literally place it on top of an AC facing up - Fan platforms / laptop stand barely helps. Gaming Laptop is just some marketing oxymoron bs Build your own Desktop PC and use a MacBook (Pro) for a laptop
My whole life I was working on windows either pc or laptop. I never thought those big windows laptop chargers would be so annoying until I switched to Mac, the charger is literally like a phone charger. Also the power consumption is crazy on windows laptops that you cannot use the laptop not being plugged in. Those two alone are more than enough to spend little more on mac. Pcs are another story, they are plugged in all the time.
It would be fair to run tests when BOTH of them disconnected from electric outlet, since it's not so hard to get much more TFLOPS if your TDP in 3-5 times higher. I'm mostly PC's (Linux) user but have to stand, that the only area where PCs is really shine (and this Razor as well) - that's amount of labels on the laptop body. But, possibly, Razor should add couple of extra ones, on top, bottom and maybe little one in a corner of touchpad (/sarcasm). MacBook Pro is the winner in this comparison, without any doubts.
That would have been an interesting test. I think we all know that the Mac is MUCH more efficient. Though the reviewer did refer to the Razor as a mobile desktop, and reviewed it as such.
@@XYang2023 No. Even if you are at home, having to have your laptop plugged in all the time is super inconvenient. So many people like to take their laptops around the house, at a kitchen table, on the sofa, or even outside on a patio and running a cable is super annoying. Also, a laptop is supposed to be portable, to be taken on the road or plane, etc. If you want to be plugged in, it makes no sense to get a laptop.
@@77dris I would disagree at least for me as if I am away from desk, I use my phone and on my desk, I use an external monitor. It is just more productive.
All right, but why did you keep the Razer plugged in and the Mac running on battery? Bruh... keep both on battery and then do the benchmark and rendering tests.
I tried Razer laptops once, had an out of box CPU fan issue on first startup where it was spinning and catching something. Sounded like putting a small coin in an empty can and shaking it around. That was ok as I understand faults happen across manufacturers but the customer service of Razer was shockingly bad and they took forever to respond and provide a resolution. They even tried to get me to send it back for repair, I had to fight to get them to just replace the machine as it was brand new. Eventually I just demanded a refund which still took them 3 weeks complete. After that experience I made sure to avoid them. Having seen other users complaints and praise across the internet, seems most praise comes from the US and most negative experiences come from Europe so Razer needs to sort out their European side.
Max tech, the 4090 and 4070 version of the 16 inch has a Dual UHD+FHD+ Mini-LED display, and and up to 1,000 nits very similar to the macbook pro’s display.
Except the Razer Blade has almost no ghosting artifacts. I have both right here. M1 Max 16" and i9/4090 16". Razer Blade's workflow is better & faster. The screen on the Blade is much much much better. 240hz/120hz. Also almost no ghosting at all while the Macbook is a smeary mess.
@@Neekzu Question: Why wouldn't you have purchased a desktop PC and OLED display since you also have the MacBook pro? I also use both a blade and a MacBook pro 16. I use the blade in lieu of bootcamp on the Mac since that is not a viable option anymore.
@@Piketom1 I don't like desktop PC's anymore. They are bulky big, not portable and not compact. Yes I know you can build a mini ITX system but that's still no solution. It's also the aesthetic I don't enjoy anymore. Laptops are simply portable, flat and have almost no footprint on my desk. I will sell the Macbook as I basically have no use for it anymore. Will probably get a very basic 14" Macbook in the future. Keeping the Blade and get an ultrawide OLED display. Ultrawide works much better for me than 4K 144hz 32". The problem with ultrawide OLED right now is the subpixel layouts and the the rather "low" resolution.
bro you have to make a fair test and this is not, because you have to either plug in both laptops or unplug both of them, because sometime macbook will perform better when plugged in or razor's perfomance will reduce whike on battery. so make a fair test and this is not fair at all.
and you also have to check their battery life, user interface, how much control it has over its apps, power of the built in antivirus software, and which is more fun to use
After owning windows laptops for years, and being a college student, I really am tempted to get into macs. The battery life and power efficiency are just so strong. I love my Razer and it's performance, but I get like 4 hours battery life max. Makes it hard to be a college student constantly traveling with a laptop.
I love how you totally skipped over a battery and power efficiency section. You used the windows laptop while plugged in, and the macbook on battery. Everything you did as a test after that was not 1:1
The "garbage" screen is because you compared the IPS panel option of the Razer instead of the miniLED option that you might have failed to mention in the video.
You cant really compare these two. One is a gaming focus. Other is music and photo editing. Also, are you using the same browsers for any of these tests? What happens if you try it on different browsers?
the pc is just as good at photo editing if not a lot faster on the export but also plays games and has a real high refresh screen. so if your comparing them on anything except performance on battery the PC is obviously better. It doesnt matter what browser you have on PC, you can have 10 browsers if you want. also, unlike this video would have you believe, the mini led screen is literally available on a lot of gaming laptops this year, and you can choose regular ips or mini led.
Long time Windows user here, but almost certainly getting a MacBook Pro as my next laptop, simply for the quieter operation and the insane battery life. That's the value proposition of Apple Silicon, and until NVidia and Intel or AMD can come up with a GPU/CPU combination that can run for >12 hours on a single charge, MacBooks are going to make more sense for people shopping for laptops.
This stuff kinda pisses me off... when one is way far behind in one category, I want to slap the face of that company's CEO and ask what they were thinking. Particularly in price and the mouse track for the windows laptop. But all the specs for everything else makes it hard to decide, especially when you both game and are a creative type who needs it for projects too. Eh, I have systems for that anyway.
I'm interested in Blender's interactivity more than rendering. Would be cool to open a heavy animated scene and see what kind of frame rate we get when pressing play.
It is really ridiculous how efficient is MBP with M chips. I mean the difference between laptop and desktop is the portability. If I buy a 3500$ dollar laptop I want to use it without charge and be able to hold it everywhere i sit, If can't its better to buy a desktop pc. Even in perfomance MBP is in a whole another level in every day task and workflows
It comes down to Arm vs. X86, as well as different production nodes. The Apple silicone is in principle, a massively oversized phone chip and the I9 a proper PC cpu
@@kalle5548 In 2023, PCs will often have a production node advantage compared to Mac, as both Nvidia and AMD will have 4nm products. We'll see if that actually results in being able to match Apple.
I think the reason the memory can’t be changed is because it is shared between the cpu and gpu, and part of the same silicon, so processes have less distance to travel. If it was mounted on the motherboard separately, the performance wouldn’t be as good. But I do wish Apple wouldn’t charge so much for the extra memory, or perhaps if they made all machines with the same memory hardware, with perhaps paid firmware activation to increase capacity at a later date.
MacBook’s are laptops optimized for portability, battery life, and consistent performance regardless of whether it’s plugged in or running on battery. There’s nothing comparable in the Windows laptop world. If you want a desktop replacement that you can take with you, then Windows is the way to go.
First thing I'd probably want to know is, what's the projected reliability, how quickly can I get a repair or replacement unit, and what will it cost. Reviews always leave this out but it's all-too-commonly part of using a high performance computer in a tiny package.
Difference here being you can upgrade the SSD to better Samsung S90pro and much higher Ram for around what it would cost to just upgrade the Mac to the next tier of storage or Ram. You could easily get your windows laptop to around 8Tb for around £200 where a that would cost you like an extra 3k on the Mac 😂
For those interested in true Geekbench 6 results (yes Geekbench 6 is available for Windows AND macOS and should have been used on both machines) - my M2 Max tested Single-Core 2674, Multi-Core 14597. So when you approach these data points from an honest view point - the i9 is not that impressive when compared to the Apple Silicon, however the M2's power efficiency, battery life, and consistent performance completely destroys the Razer. To answer the big question - when you balance out where Apple Silicon dominates with where it is minimally less competitive the answer is clear - Apple Silicon is NOT a mistake.
Glad someone else posted this. Not sure what was happening with the single core benchmark on the Mac in the video but it was 25% slower than it should have been. My 16" M2 Max 38 core is around the same as yours.
why would apple silicon be a mistake? apple wouldn't push the i9 to its true performance because they dislike fan noise so its better that they pick something else so you aren't paying $3k for a slow laptop
I honestly dont understand the praise toward macbook trackpad because i think trackpads from windows is always better because i dont need to click it but just tap it to click and double tap to select. While on macbook, i actually need to click it and most of the time, i cant tell if it already clicked or not.
I have a 15 inch Razer 2080 rtx. It got so hot the battery expanded and the trackpad stopped working. Had to take out the battery and dispose it safely - now just run on external power. One thing though in its favour vs my Mac laptops is I upgraded the nvme to 2GB and the RAM to 64GB - Try doing that on the Mac.
@@FunKaYxxD1sCO No - it can work just fine with the battery removed - I only ever use it as a desktop machine connected to a external monitor anyway. The only downside is power-cuts (and potentially then losing unsaved data), and for that reason I may well add a replacement battery - more for UPS functionality rather than trying to do work on battery.. because the 9th gen i7 and 2080RTX suck the battery dry in an hour or two..
@@kylebelle246 I think I just caught it in time.. the trackpad is still working - clicks were not working before I removed it - now its OK since removing the battery. Frankly terrible thermal design and battery QA on these machines - but then the older generation Intel chips + NVIDIA GPUs are not a good fit for a laptop package in my mind anyway - I only got this setup as I needed to work at different locations and needed a decent GPU for OpenGL/Unreal work but couldn't carry a desktop machine in my backpack :)
@@wavesequencer The 2023 model allows you to limit charge, so I have mine set to 60%. I don't really expect to use it on battery, so that's perfectly fine. That, and the much thicker profile and better cooling, should in theory limit the bloating on the newest models.
Hey MaxTech I would’ve really hoped you compared the Mini LED Razer 16 to the MacBook Pro instead of IPS version. Even Dave2D who is a MacBook Pro user said it was a gorgeous display.
@@unique93obr well then you can’t really compared a windows machine to a MacBook based on budget can you? Obviously, apple can make their machines cheaper due to apple silicon while razer is using NVIDIA and Intel parts which cost way more. I reckon the better way of doing it is comparing what a specced out (besides anything like storage and ram) Razer Blade 16 vs MacBook Pro 16 can do. But then again, there is no such thing as fair comparison if price is considered.
@@SunsetNova No I'm not blaming Apple. Not only am I impressed by Apple but I'm also grateful that they were able to provide such good laptops. However, I was just curious whether a top spec windows machine would have a Mini-LED that matches the Apple one. That was all, cuz nobody is making this comparison. Also, if a top spec windows machine has a better screen, that is quite an achievement too, regardless of price. Because it is not like there will be any upgrade in screen on a top spec macbook pro vs a medium spec.
Comparing a plugged in razer to a MacBook running on battery seems a little unfair. Please do a non plugged in razer test and I am certain that the MacBook will beat in terms of performance.
You have to go under razers software to unlock the full power, it looks like you were using the balanced profile. Because in cinebench the razer can use 100+ watts sustained.
Not really. They don't have a 4080 model with the MiniLED screen. They have a cheaper 4070 model and a more expensive model with a 4090 that has the MiniLED option
I get where your coming form but people in real world terms won’t buy a laptop to have to have it plugged in all the time. Generally speaking it’s because of the portability, that’s the whole point of having a laptop. If the performance drops as much as we’ve seen in the past with windows laptops then for me it wouldn’t be worth getting something like the razor over the MacBook, the gains while it’s plugged in just wouldn’t be worth the inconvenience where as the MacBook stays incredibly consistent whether or not it’s plugged in
@@jacobchalkley5071 Both laptops will run out of battery very quickly when running resource intensive programs, it doesn’t matter since both have to be plugged in anyways.
@@Ben21756 I couldn’t disagree more, I would say to most people it would matter a great deal. Also yes they would both run out of battery eventually but based on tests that Max Tech has done before the MacBook would most likely last a great deal longer than the razor. If I remember correctly windows laptops tend to last a couple of hours where as the MacBook lasts a lot longer and as I said before is much more consistent than the windows, with the windows laptops you have to keep them plugged in to get the full performance from them which is a bit ridiculous when you consider that the Apple Silicon MacBooks generally stay very consistent on battery and last a great deal longer. I would much rather pay less and in my opinion get a lot more back overall.
Both are great machines for editing. The Razer Blade 16 has an advantage because it gives you the opportunity to play next gen console games unlike the MacBook which is only made for productivity.
@@TommyThaGreat My primary Purpose is Raw 4k 60 fps video editing.. And secondary gaming is not important. And I need something like Portable. That's why i am going for laptop. My Budget is enough. Can I go for Razer blade 4090?
As usual Apple does things right, the right balance between power, consumption and functionality .... but I would like that Razer brute force freak show instead of my gaming PC. It will be curious to see what will happen when we finally put aside the x86 architecture, even if the stone guest who now dominates is of course nVidia, by now even 3d rendering is CUDA core stuff... only video editing is missing .
From that comparison, unless you specifically need it for 3D rendering, the M2 Max is the better and more versatile (you can actually use it unplugged) machine.
The reason I personally prefer the mac is because i just know that it will last longer due to better qc, as well as the overall package regarding battery life, fan noise, the keyboard, the speakers and the display. Of course for anyone wanting to game the mac is a simple no, but for pure productivity purposes, the mac is definitely powerful enough for pretty much anything, and it would be a waste for someone to get the razer and not game at all.
I had the older razer 17 pro and hated the thing. It was hot, lasted about 4 hours on battery when it wasn't being buggy and activating the GPU, which it seemed to always do, so was lucky to get 2 hours on battery. It was also a stuttery mess while on battery. Then the already crappy trackpad started bugging out and now it thinks its already detected a finger on the pad so it will start doing swipe gestures when you try to use it. I tried to get razer to help with a replacement trackpad but because its outside warranty now they don't want to touch it or send a part and because it's not a super common version of the razer laptop I can't find a used part... I switched to an m2 max 16" macbook pro and it's so much better it's not even funny. Screen, speakers, trackpad, keyboard, battery life, weight, speed, heat etc... are all sooooo much better. This is my first mac and I'm still getting used to OSX, but for everything but gaming I'd recommend people go with the mac. Having said that I have loaded up a few games on my mac and they ran just fine. I was playing Kerbal space program for hours on battery only, the fans barely came on and the performance was great!
I had the same experience when I had a 2019 Blade 17. The battery life was terrible and the performance from the mobile i7 and 2080 was underwhelming to say the least.
How does everyone everyone else alway beats appos screen bezel thinness???? Why does Appo always manage to have thick bezels ? The 2011 matte 17" mbp had thinner bezels than current macbooks. Shame 😊😅😂😂😂
The point is….. the MacBook does not have a performance difference plugged in vs not. Windows computers are significantly less capable while running on battery power.
I'm surprised you didn't get the 4K MiniLED model with a 4070 for the comparison. That display would be far more comparable to the current display on the MacBook Pro. Also you should test it with a 100w USB C power supply as it does support USB C PD
@@andrewdhome I think it's close enough. They can't change if a laptop has shared memory or not. There is no perfect layout. Max tech is simply using this spec for the price and making a comparison from that.
tried the mini led on the 4090 version. Wasn't really too impressed. Lots of blooming and colormanagement on Windows is a whole mess. Everything is completely oversaturated unless you'd use a sRGB clamping tool
Interesting video,I personally feel they both have their advantages,While the razor was faster on most,The MacBook has advantages like you said for the build quality which makes it worth it!.Personally I feel it just depends on what you need the laptop for at this point and how much you can spend!.
The tests are fake. The real power of the Razer should be seen when tests are done while unplugged. Cause we saw in all the videos, that once the windows laptops are unpluged, they lower their cpu + gpu and get very bad scores. So winner by all means: The Macbook.
@@mariuscamenita9643 That lack of performance on battery power is down to two factors. Intel and NVIDIA are years behind Apple in terms of power efficiency and the fact that there is a limit to how much power you can safely pull from a lithium ion battery. If the razer ran at full performance on battery life, you'd be lucky if it didn't start a fire before the battery was depleted.
@@abubakrakram6208 That's why this test is BS. windows laptops need to be plugged in to be competitive. Shame on this video's host for not adressing or disclosing this during the video.
Looks like you compared Geekbench 5.5 on the Mac to 6.0 on the PC. The scores aren’t comparable as they have a different baseline they’re relative to. Also, I would love to see one of these side by side comparisons done entirely unplugged from start to finish. If the PC can’t make it through the slate of tests and the MacBook can… well, that’s a result worth knowing, too.
Worse. Apple Silicon is perfect for what Apple wants out of a laptop. Even the last intel powered 16" MacBook pro ran hot, loud, and had disappointing battery life in many circumstances. Apple Silicon sacrificed a lot of X86 app compatibility but for those who NEED a Mac, M series computers are massive improvements. The other thing we should keep in mind is that during this entire comparison, the Mac is running on battery power. No windows computer can compete with the efficiency of Apple Silicon.
@@abubakrakram6208 slower for productive apps such as Lightroom, Photoshop, After Effects, Davinci Resolve, Final Cut etc. Only better for anything 3D-related.
Its crazy to think it's actually a better deal to buy a MacBook Air M2, or MBP M2 and use cloud gaming like Geforce Now to have better performance than a Razer blade, and overall a better computer for productivity
Great video guys! It would be great to see a video editing comparison in Resolve/Premiere. I'd be excited to see which one wins in tasks such as noise reduction and timeline performance in 4k/8K sequences. Keep it up!
Some of the tests you ran demonstrate operational differences between CISC and RISC architecture. Reviewers need to keep this in mind and many appear to have shallow understanding of it. As programs such as Blender evolve to include RISC smoothness others will as well. For gaming however, the industry is geared to x86 and the M Macs make no claims to be gaming machines. Indeed Mac never catered for gamers, presumably for their own reasons but an interesting fact known to we senior citizens is that the early modular power Macs could run the games of long ago and were used by designers of ever advanced games (notably in the UK) which transitioned to the big gaming rigs people tended to like to build themselves or have built and these used x86. As a non-gamer in a household of gaming fanatics (mostly now having flown the nest) I understood and enjoyed the tech behind big rigs -- but always glanced at our electricity bills!
Man, Thanks for testing the Figma, This is so crucial for most of the Developers and Designers. Because you are very few channels in the world that think that not everyone edits videos on the Mac for potential Windows user buyers
Agreed. I would have liked to see them run a prototype with the laptops to see how quickly it took to generate the prototypes. Also, saw that they ran Figma I browser. Would like to see performance in the native app.
How important is Figma for developers? You only use it for mockup reference, nothing more(For the front end). By the way, you're really stretching it when you say most developers.
Thanks been looking for this comparison. Finnally made the jump to mac. Will miss gaming but for my work photography and videography the mac is really nice. Shame that my laptop mouse doesn't work on m2 though.... Strange...
Have you tried using a usb-usbc adapter to plug in your mouse receiver? I have M2 MBP and can connect a non-Apple mouse and keyboard, but I ended up using my old wired Mac keyboard using an adapter.
*High end Windows laptops would do much better* for high end gaming, performance, heavy multitasking etc. MacBook's are good if you care about generic stuff like a good web cam, speakers, portability etc.
Window's mobile computers are only one of two. A laptop or a portable desktop. I just can't imagine many people with a powerful windows laptop thick in volume would wanna sit it on their lap. But it's also not ideal for a professional to get a slimmer and smaller laptop or else it lacks too much performance. The MacBook Pro sits in the middle and isn't the best of either, but is instead very good at it.
like always, for some reasons W laptops limit the power when on battery, in this case is most likely because the battery can not handle such a high wattage, though this also happens ultraportable laptops even though they don't suck more than 25-30W under continuous load
@@galenbeals3538 No. Apple designed their chips to work the same on battery and wall power by making sure their chips can only consume under the limit for power consumption
Sorry, but this test is not representative. I don’t understand how you can carry out all the tests on both devices, but one device has plugged in the mains cable and not the other and, above all, you don’t mention this at any time. It’s like comparing a mobile device to a desktop device, that doesn’t make sense either. So I’m really disappointed with this test right now. Normally, I think a lot of you!
