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Windrider 17 designer Jim Brown, on the good and the bad of the WR17 rudder system. 

Ziggy Lavengood
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@firebird2
@firebird2 Год назад
Once again, great information. Jim Brown seems so warm, open and true to his desire to get more people in boats. I'm glad to be part of that community!
@ZiggyLavengood
@ZiggyLavengood Год назад
He walks his talks.
@OkieBobby
@OkieBobby Год назад
Fantastic! Really enjoyed it. What a cool dude.
@ZiggyLavengood
@ZiggyLavengood Год назад
He really is.
@JimDory
@JimDory Год назад
So I bought my 17 maybe in 2004 or so.. paid $5k new. I sail in the Bering Sea (salt water) and maybe got a non-anodized rudder shaft because it froze up as you described. Of course I didn't know about the tab embedded in the plastic sleeve so I ripped that up trying to get the rudder shaft off. I ended up building a long reaching clamp with lumber and all-thread to lock that tab in place so I could really reef on the shaft. That and maybe a heat gun.. I was finally able to free it.. didn't have to cut the rudder shaft. I did order a new plastic sleeve from the company - I may have had to cut that off. (I don't remember all the particulars - it was a few years ago and the boat is buried under snow now in Nome Alaska - hope the deck plank doesn't poke thru the bow as it definitely gets a bit chilly here). I think I fabricated a spacer out of UHMW plastic because things got a bit tweaked and had to prop up the rudder a bit.. and I think I did just hose clamp the plastic tube inside the hull against the sleeve to prevent leaks. All seems to work fine. Thanks to Ziggy and Jim Brown for the little series! On my channel I have a little info on the larger catamaran I built using epoxy.
@ZiggyLavengood
@ZiggyLavengood Год назад
I'm about to tear into my rudder shaft too. There is too much play. Hopefully, I will just have to replace the plastic sleeve. Fingers crossed. Jim's instructions definitely takes some of the worries out of the project though.
@TomKirkman1
@TomKirkman1 Год назад
The early boats built by Andy at Wilderness Systems, were better in many ways. The third owner widened the boat by 10 inches, which was unnecessary, and creates more twist in the hull under harsh conditions. I watched the first ones being built and then sailed on our local municipal lake. Later, I sailed Andy's boat, possibly the 2nd one off the line (he still has it). Very innovative boat that combined new ideas, new materials and new technology. There was a lot to go wrong but overall the boats came out just fine and probably haven't had much more in the way of problems or issues than any other sailboat out there.
@ZiggyLavengood
@ZiggyLavengood Год назад
Having 2 WR17s, one from the 1st molding and the last molding will let me run them side by side for a real comparison this summer.
@andrewjacoby4475
@andrewjacoby4475 Год назад
Some lubricants may be destroying the Plastic sleeve as Jim noted. In plumbing applications a non petroleum silicone lubricant is used. A problem that Jim may not have noted is that some lubricants may help grit and sand and salt crystals etch the surface of the aluminum hastening oxidation. Lastly Aluminum oxide itself is abrasive. How is this problem avoided on other rudders thru hull designs.?
@dsweetxcr
@dsweetxcr Год назад
Love my 16 looking for a 17 love your content ziggy let’s go sailing you bastards
@ZiggyLavengood
@ZiggyLavengood Год назад
Thanks!
@dsweetxcr
@dsweetxcr Год назад
Beeswax and mineral oil or some other oil (sunflower,coconut) for lube
@Gman-qm6bv
@Gman-qm6bv Год назад
I guess the bad is, Windrider stopped selling sailboats.
@ZiggyLavengood
@ZiggyLavengood Год назад
yeah, the current owners seem to lack the love needed to keep it going.
@barryhogan783
@barryhogan783 5 месяцев назад
@@ZiggyLavengood Hello Ziggy, do you know where I can get a rudder for a wind rider 17?
@ZiggyLavengood
@ZiggyLavengood 5 месяцев назад
@@barryhogan783 no I don't although I have seen where ppl have made their own online b4. check the Windrider FB page. It wasn't long ago I saw a post on it.
@ZiggyLavengood
@ZiggyLavengood 5 месяцев назад
@@barryhogan783 someone just poster the details of making a rudder om the Windrider FB page. check there, good luck!
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