Winds of Winter Predictions: The New Long Night 

"Whenever you're ready, George" - that was oddly wholesome. A rather uncommon sentiment as of late.

"When Others send their people, they're not sending their best." Whoever built the wall.

so if we asked the Others why they haven’t invaded yet, they would reply “THE STARS ARE NOT IN POSITION. The stars. Can’t do it. Not today.”

I would love it if Dany lands in Westeros and it’s deep into winter already.

Rich petty people squabbling over politics while an existential threat looms over the world entirely unchecked... boy I’m glad thats just fantasy. (stares into the camera for 4 minutes)

They mentioned so many time how the Vale is impregnable to men, I figured that meant the final battle, because they’re gonna lose at Winterfell, will take place at the Vale

Hope the people of Westeros stocked up on toilet paper for the long night.

"Mr. Bastard, bring down this wall" -Mance Rayder, Winds of Winter, probably..

"We could see snow in Dorne, potentially" Well The good news is, there was already Snow in Dorne like 17 years ago when Jon was born, so there you have it.

"Last night he dreamt the Winterfell dream again...Only this time the dream had gone further than before. In the dark he heard the scrape of stone on stone. When he turned he saw that the vaults were opening, one after the other. As the dead kings came stumbling from their cold black graves, Jon had woken in pitch-dark, his heart hammering." I hope this foreshadows Jon getting the Kings of Winter to help in the New Long Night, to echo Aragorn and the army of the dead in LOTR.

Jon Snow as the Night King would be a cool and terrifying twist. The hero turns into the most fearsome villain. I do love these prediction videos. I'm keeping a notebook of predictions. Well, one has to keep entertained between house chores. And I agree. An impregnable wall is there to be overrun and destroyed. It's a Titanic kind of thing.

We know it’s a great topic since Quinn put on his starry wisdom glasses

I really like the idea that Euron brings down the wall with the horn of winter which he’ll get at oldtown

These videos are absolutely amazing guys thank you. Like 95% of people I hated season 8 (and 7) and kind of fell out of love with game of thrones but these are easing me back in to George's world. One good thing to maybe come out of this Coronavirus shit might be Winds of Winter...can only hope

My theory for what will kick off the upcoming Long Night is a massive volcanic eruption. This is just speculation on my part but if there was a volcano or volcanoes that's either beyond the Wall or even south of it laying dormant. If such volcanoes suddenly go off then the aftershock of the eruption would be what causes the Wall to come tumbling down, but what's more is the amount of ash spewing out of the volcanoes after a major eruption would be enough to block out the sun for quite some time. Edit: Another major outcome of volcanic ash blotting out the sun would be the onset of a volcanic winter where temperatures would drop drastically to unbearable levels which will make agriculture virtually impossible while also giving the Others the perfect conditions to start their invasion south.

Old Nan knows nothing: "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when the fear has gone, only I remain."

Side note for Bran playing with magic: I still think he caused the Mad King's "Burn them all". Makes perfect sense, even though they dismissed that in the show.

Honestly thought that they would get whooped in the show by the others and have to retreat to Essos which Dany had fortified through her conquering because it would have given point in the show to Essos. Then have the others storm kings landing as Cersei gawks and gets nailed by the dead starving masses when they still had her starving (possibly)citizens of King’s Landing.

I've long felt that the theory this will end in some sort of marriage, whether literal or symbolic. That will be how the balance is restored, if it goes that route. There's a lot of symbolism and quotes from Martin that this isn't going to be about some big bloody slugfest. Even LoTR's big battle at the gates of Mordor was just a feint to help the real battle going down at Mount Doom.

Imagine if when the wall broke in the show they actually had the whole sky go into a long night. They made the effort in with the red comet in the sky in one of the videos that everyone could see. Damn that was great transitioning they did

The books basically did the wight hunt in book one with Ser Allister and the wight's hand. Didn't work, don't think anyone would be dumb enough to try it again.

When the stars align in the sky Nobody: The White Walkers: BUT I WOULD WALK 500 miles AND I WOULD WALK 500 MORE JUST TO BE THE WIGHT WHO WALKS A THOUSAND MILES TO BRING DOWN YOUR DOOR

Jon would be a Stark, a Targaryen, and, if your theory holds, an Other. Talk about a true Night King!

“And that’s fine, we’re moving on” The absolute repressed resentment lmao

"Snow in Dorne"

These are making the wait for Winds so much better. I check every day hoping theres another upload on this series/playlist. Thanks guys

Absolutely loving this series LmL and Quinn , this is certainly one of the most interesting topics in GRRM's universe , although I think we will end up seeing more of this overall concept in ADoS. So many interesting concepts and possibilities with this one . The Wall coming down does seem inevitable with all the textual foreshadowing and just how else are most of these events going to be facilitated. The Wall has intense magical barrier protections that most magical entities can not cross , so surely it has to come down ; the how is the big question , I don't think dragons could do it hence GRRM's giving us that Silverwing story not being able to cross it , and I have my doubts the Horn of Winter / Joramun's Horn doing that either. The timing with the book's Night's King is murky as are most of GRRM's ancient events but residing at the Nightfort seemingly on the Wall , controlling the Night's Watch likely with some type of sorcery , to me suggests after the Wall was constructed. And we know Joramun used it and the Wall was not damaged or taken down , plus what would taking the Wall down have helped Brandon the Breaker & Joramun back then if thats what the horn does , so that leaves me a bit skeptical. And lets presume the books NK was pre-Wall what magical use would the HoW have for Joramun to use against the Night's King in general if the Wall was not there ? Personally i think the HoW is more tied the Winterfell Crypts and raising the Stark dead. With taking down the Wall it seems more likely this unprecedented massive level of blood sacrifice Euron is up to could possibly be the catalyst for that (intentionally or not). In terms of defeating the Others definitely will not be as simplistic as the show made it only needing to take out their leader , we do not even have a book equivalent of that role atm. I do really like what LmL mentioned with Jon being a wight as needed to venture north of The Wall to take out some talisman to weaken the Others via a journey only a wight could survive. And in general i think unlike the show it will likely be a two pronged approach of some type of metaphysical intervention in the Weirwood net seemingly from Bran and a physical aspect as well likely from Jon , with many signs pointing to some resolution coming from the IoF. And of course there is the possibility Jon is the PtwP to the Others as mentioned during the stream , the special bloodlines could play into that and of course Jon would seemingly be selfless enough to volunteer himself for such a role to save the realm. I also always found it curious believe it was Ygritte in the books who called Jon Snow's name "evil" which could give another wrinkle to this idea ; maybe the Freefolk kept an oral story of the books' NK or another leader of the Others and his name was Jon Snow , possibly an ilegimate or younger brother Stark which Jon is presented as (even if his true parentage will say otherwise). That could be an added connection with Jon having to take over the Others or will lead the Others' at some point. Definitely looking forward to see how all this plays out in the books.

One of the things the stands out to me about the tale of the Night's King is his wife. A woman "with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars" and "her skin was cold as ice". He gives her his seed and soul and he declared himself king and her his queen. Sounds to me like a marriage pact, and since the timeline is a bit fuzzy i think this might've been what actually ended the long night. That's how wars usually end, right? Peace and a marriage to seal the deal. A Stark of the Night's Watch marrying an Other to end the long night. If Jon turns into an Other i think marrying Dany could mirror that nicely.

I gotta be honest this is the only show (lml-and quinideas) that I look forward to and watch as soon as it airs. I check youtube to see if a new video is up even when im doing others stuff. i dont watch lml by himself and i dont watch quin ideas by himself. but when their powers combine They're captin planetos

Im sure someone else has thought of this, but what if the Long Night never happened? What if all these fort names, and stories of darkness are all just bran time traveling to prepare the world for the Others attack?

I expect POV chapters of characters from all over Westeros chronicling their fight against the others, I want it to get so desperate that entire regions have to evacuate civilians and have them hold up in certain castles (Casterly Rock, Riverrun, Storms End, and the Red Keep in Kings Landing). I also want history repeating itself sort of by having the undead army purposely starving the people hunkered down in the Eyrie (this would be Sansa's POV chapter chronicling the desperation of the people trapped) in fact it would be so bad that there's a chance that we may see people resort to cannibalism for survival.

Love the chemistry between you two during this whole series! I love listening to you both voice ideas around and pull from the others individual videos. Keep up the good work!!

"Thousands and thousands of years ago, a winter fell that was cold and hard and endless beyond all memory of man"... I'm guessing I'm not the first to see that this could be wordplay suggesting "a Winterfell that was cold and hard and endless..."? And that a description of a place in these words, sounds like a description which could fit the heart of winter, which Bran sees in his coma dream and is terrified of?

There was a video game called Myth the Fallen Lords where a great evil called the Leveler would rise every thousand years when a great comet appeared in the sky and begins an age of darkness until a hero rises and brings in an age of light. The bit i love about the lore. A twisted and ironic attribute that the Leveler has is that it would return in the next age, stronger then before and possessing the body and soul of the hero who defeated it. Hence the hero that saves the world from darkness would be doomed to destroy it and all that they had fought hard to save. You guys put me in the mood to reply these games again. Thanks.

This video is far better than the entire final season. I can’t wait for the books to come out (whenever that will be).

when the winter fell , winterfell will fell

I always wanted the grand finale of the Long Night to happen at the Isle of Man.

You lore masters you, love you both

I think all the nights king symbolism points that the real power is the Nights Queen Stannis, Aemon one eye they both were heavily influenced by strong mystical Women. The Great Other and The Stranger, IMO are female. She is The Snow Queen, a great and ancient Goddess of Winter. The cruelest aspect of mother nature.

Still a fan of the idea there's a dragon/s in the bottom of the crypts. Aside from dragonstone, winterfell is the only place in westeros hinted at being suitable for dragons.. and I feel like george wouldn't have included the story about eggs laid in the crypts for nothing either. There's also hints at there being an ice dragon built into the wall! Part of the magic of the wall is the dragon inside I believe. Either way, I certainly think we'll see another dragon before the end of the story.

"They'll just dance lol" The shadows have come to dance my lord, dance my lord

The kings of hardwork and research.👍💝 Thanks for the videos and the live keeps me sane during quarantine 😊🙏

This series of videos make me read the books in a different way! Thank you so much for this

We’re living through the real life long night rn, I must say, it sucks. A lot.

The series lost an opportunity, bran's wheelchair should have been made of weirwood

The Children of the Forest's character seems to be similar to the Seelie Court of the Sidhe: associated with spring, summer, warmth, gentle rains, gentle breezes, & troublesome, yet not too violently troublesome aspects of nature. The Others are definitely more like the Unseelie: They're associated with autumn, especially with winter, the cold, night, violent storms, & other harsher aspects of nature.

Maybe George will wind up doing that time skip between 6 & 7 and we can fit a generation in there

I am re-reading the series right now and am at Storm of Swords. I am SO excited for WoW. Great video.

Crazy idea: suppose the earth were to stop spinning. That would hide the sun from a lot of people for a while. And if it lasted long enough it would scorch the other side of the world. I said it before: we have no record of the Long Night form anywhere sharing a longitude with Valryia. No such legend from the Ghis, nor Qarth. The last two are places Daenerys has spent a good deal of time in and should hear of these things. Valyria is said to be the land of the Long Summer, maybe they had a summer/day parallel to the Long Night.

Man you two are killing it, these videos are great. Thank you so much for these, we need them during these strange times. I think I can speak for everyone saying how much we appreciate the work and you. Thanks again.

This episode - from this series of twow predictive vids - was an absolute banger, my fav so far.... Especially the discussion towards the end of the vid, till the end -has got to be my favorite professional, yes, professional collabs of you both. Like harmony. You two coming together. ...hell, ya said it yourself in this vid

Quinn, your videos have kept me sane lately, and helped me to rediscover my love of this series. I had started to lose interest after waiting so long for WoW; diving back into the lore and possibilities, now, has me always thinking and is keep at least my mind active. Thank you!

I do believe Littlefinger has been doing some serious prepping, collecting all that grain. Maybe he really is a greenseer.

The real long night is coming.

Wait. You're blowing my mind. Jon's spirit would be inside Ghost and his body would be walking around undead? Oh, man. That would be awesome.

When will we hear something about Euron's valirian steel armor? It is really unique magical artifact It is worth of talking imho.

Best video I've watched of all of youtube in the last month. You are the 0.01% percent.

Ahh my two favourite ASOIAF youtubers, and In Deep Geek of course

when the first long night fell, mankind was in the bronze age, they didn,t have then umbers, and they didn't have the technology to face the ww. Now they have steel, they have armour, they have bigger and stronger castles, even with the civil war, I still think they outnumber the first men.

Samwell Tarly constantly references “SNOW FALLING” upon The Brothers of The Night’s Watch during the attack of The Others & their Wights at The Fist of The First Men! I think Jon Snow will be possessed for a time during the next book.

I have this image in my head of Jon becoming a wight that controls dragons and basically is this god among men who leads magic out of the world

I always thought that the name Winterfell was a misdirection. You are supposed to think that it's where winter stops or something. But what if there was an ancient ice dragon named Winter? The location where this terrible beast was killed might be called Winter Fell. Hence the place that the others want to get to, to do some magic with dragon remains or to resurrect it or wake it up or something like that.

The Others are definitly ancient creatures but I like to believe that they awaked again and prepared their new invasion at Dany's birth, like 2 opposites tied to eachother. Ice called Fire and vice versa. I think Dany represents something that will bring back order in the kingdoms and the wrath of the children is trying to counter that like they want to see them at eachother's troats as some kind of revenge for destroying their mainland

I’m totally with you on the long night episode LML I thought it was going to be hands down the greatest episode of TV ever made up until the last 5mins. When John starts running at the Night King and the NK turns around and raises the dead I told my GF “well they’ve lost. John needs to get on the dragon with Danny and get out of there”.... and when that didn’t happen I just kept saying “no no no..” lol but all the mistakes would’ve been forgiven if they would’ve just lost and had to fall back because then you could chalk it up like yeah they made mistakes that’s why they lost.... I just don’t understand narratively speaking how you can have a threat that everyone is saying the whole world needs to unite to stop and also have a castle said to be able to house the whole kingdom in Harrenhall and you don’t use it lol... mark my words ALL the kingdoms of men will gather and unite at Harrenhall at some point in the story they just have too lol

Man i love this series, you both compliment each other perfectly

Coldhands told Sam about then magic of The Wall on how it requires the men of the nights watch to be true. We know that as of the mutiny against Jon Snow, two Lord Commanders have now been Killed by their brothers and Jon has first men blood. I'll assume the magic of the wall breaking will begin the Long Night, if I'm right it goes a long way explaining the events that in the north, the attack at the Fist, (which killed the most loyal brothers, leaving only the scoundrels), Sam being saved by Coldhands. As well as Jon ascension to lord commander, by landslide, which was strange because he was being accused of desertion at the time. Could these events have the same two architects? It's a thought.

You guys make a great team. You perfectly capture the brilliance of the series, and I love the music you use.

I love how y’all threw Obama in the mix on the table 😂 😂 😂

Omg the two of you nerding out is so awesome. Would love to be in that room with a joint and a six pack 😆

Spend a single winter in Ireland. You'll quickly realise the mechanism of the long night. I've been living here for almost 10 years and the words "winter is coming" hit different here.

I know this video is over a year old, but I was hoping in the show that the Night King would fly Viserion and some of his generals to Kings Landing and build a second army of wights to hit Winterfell from the South while the rest of his generals came from the North. The other main characters (and the audience) see the army from the South approaching and for a brief moment, they think Cersei kept her word, but then they realize that isn't the case and that it's a whole new army of wights. Not only that, but the realization that Kings Landing has fallen and so have many other towns/cities along the way would hit, too. The absolute existential dread of that moment would have been legendary. I also didn't think the Night King would be stupid enough to expose himself to his enemies deep inside their territory, knowing his entire mission and existence could end with one lucky shot from the enemy, especially since he knows they know how to kill him....silly me. Anyway, I've always felt like an ice dragon would make its way into the book series somehow. I never knew about the picture of the shadowed three-headed dragon and the shadowed fourth dragon. That's pretty dope. My question is if an ice dragon is triple the size of a normal dragon, what is a normal dragon's average size? The Targaryen's dragons became smaller over time due to different restricted environments, but I'm wondering if Balerion and Vhagar are the standard based off Valyria's dragons since they came from there? None of the other Targaryen dragons lived long enough to reach their size, though a few came somewhat close. I'm thinking an ice dragon is massive and much larger than all three of Dany's juvenile dragons combined, especially if ice dragons have existed undisturbed to the point of being thought of as myths for the most part. I don't know. Fun to think about.

Great video as always fellas. Loved the winter-y effects.

i found the beginning of this SO funny, the grim quote that transitioned into the two of them in winter gear indoors? the shabby snow effect? the random stalactites?? quinn going "we want the winds of winter george!" and then catching himself like "take your time.... but we ARE ready" there were many comical layers (figuratively and also literally, i mean; a ushanka? for real?) to it

I feel like I have to say it: you two have just my kind of style

"The regular length night" cracks me up every time I watch this video 😂😂😂😂

Quinn your voice never fails to give me some deep chills❄❄🤣

"Tear down this wall!" - Did you just imply I was a wildling?! 😆

The real winds of winter is the friends we made along the way

Remember the LONG NIGHT in the show's S07 E03? Remember how the LONG NIGHT lasted half a night? Didn't even last until morning lolll. Was literally a short night! Hahahahaha it was fun

What if the Others are another intelligent species, and they're just pissed at humans for breaking some long forgotten pact/rules? Maybe humans don't defeat them, but use diplomacy to end the new Long Night by forming a new pact.

Those icicles and snow are hilarious! You guys really make the videos great!

I believe the Others could reach Kingslanding, it would be the perfect target for the Others that would make their army unstoppable with its millions of residents. It would also make a perfect trap for Jon/Dany to use the hidden wildfire cashes to burn a large portion of the undead army... and Trion knows of those cashes. Why do the Others need to take Winterfell? The Others don't have supply lines or a flank that they'd need to protect so they could just bypass the fortress... Winterfell is desigened to survive an attack by tbe Others and yet can't really threaten their army. What the Others need are bodies, and southern kingdoms are not well prepared to fight them eq Kingslanding and the Reach. Also I think the dead Starks will be risen from the cripts but will defend Winterfell. If they would serve the enemy, no Stark bodies would have ever be kept if this was the case they would have burned all bodies like the Free Folk do.

Guys I love your TWOW prediction videos. You guys are the best imho. Please more ASOIAF / book related videos please. Thank you

Two thoughts.... determining causation. Did dragons bring magic back to the world or did dragons come back because magic was returning? Also... the most common cruelest curse (aka "Go to Hell") is "Others Take You".... and if memory serves, this is not isolated to Westeros. I believe it's been said in many places in Planetos.... Were there "others" on the other continents?

As a horned god, Bran has to die in the Winter (at Winterfell?) to be reborn in the Spring as the new King.

"We dont have generations to wrap this series up" *checks the internet* too late...

Nice thabks Quinn. Im going to still check that full stream out in sure you guys had fun

I'm loving the filter and the sun glasses. I agree the chekhov's gun is the giant wall of ice. What if they go under the Wall like in Gorin's way? There is a Weirwood Throne in the Vale. It's Sweetrobins🤣 Night's King wasn't a leader of the Others. He was a normal human that gave his children to the others like craster. His wife now she may have been an other. 🥶

Oh my God the music when they pitch the weirwood throne in the crypts 🤣🤣🤣

Love those Parliament shades Quinn

I believe Winterfell gets besieged by the others but they can’t enter, because it’s a structure build by Brandon the Builder. Very much like Storms End. Melisandre needs a way to bypass the walls to send her shadow into Storms End. Protection through magic.

Rewatching this series and eagerly awaiting your next collaboration.

Quinn you have a beautiful voice that is very mesmerizing. You should do audio books, especially your own reading of ASOIF.

The Others are only coming down south to show everyone love and peace

You guys and this content is just epic. Thank you so much!! You look awesome Quin!

I love the idea of Jon Snow as the Night King

I'm definitely behind the idea that the Others are looking for Jon, at least in part of what they are looking to do. Your guys' and others' previous analysis of the GOT prologue supports it for me.

There is no way he will be able to cram every storyline & ending into 2 more books, unless they are MASSIVE books.

That was cool as hell.Been following you guys for years.Have heard all your theories,but this series is awsome primes tha reader for rereads and of course WoW. Keep it coming,handsome dudes.

Only watched the first season so far. I thought of the book "the third body problem." The seemingly random nature of the seasons in both stories seem very much the same. Maybe not so extreme in game of thrones.