Windwalker REWORK IS CRAZY (War Within Alpha)

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Windwalker Monk is getting a big rework in The War WIthin Alpha and we’ve tested and played it! In today’s war within gameplay you will see the windwlaker rework in all its glory on top of discussing all the war within monk hero talents and how the work with the class and spec talents!
Shado Pan Monk or Conduit of the Celestials? It’s early to all which one will be the best but so far so good, consider us excited for the war within monk hero talents and the rework!
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@MarcelianOnline Месяц назад

🚨 TIGER PALM was already buffed, making the talents we mentioned a more com 💪TL;DR It keeps getting better and better for WW💪

@gohomehero Месяц назад

Honestly Haste and Mastery seem like what a monk wants even from an aesthetic point of view. Being fast and a master at your kung fu karateness is like.. the whole class fantasy lol.

@Yerdone92 Месяц назад

Yet in reality we’ve been pigeonholed into stacking crit/vers for as long as I can remember lol

@brawsongaming4022 27 дней назад

That’s exactly what I was thinking too, they should have more bouncy unique mobility because they are “walking on wind”

@TopicxWoW 5 дней назад

It should be Haste = Mast > Vers > Crit IMO

@RoidRooster Месяц назад

Shamans need this type of love.

@daethmer7834 Месяц назад

What's a "shaman"? Is it something you eat?

@djbedu Месяц назад

Druids, too. We get attention often as like for the promotion of things (showing our tree at blizzcon) but we don't get GOOD QUALITY attention like this.

@YA-kr4fr Месяц назад

Dk first

@RoidRooster Месяц назад

@@YA-kr4fr I mean you’re not wrong… but I wanna see shamans get some love too. Ret’s on its 4th rework and they basically told hunters they’re on the back burner… UDK got a rework, we’ve gotten shit mate.

@terkbro1087 Месяц назад

@@YA-kr4fr Why first ? 😅 They have plenty of dev.. just release all rework in the same time !!

@abeard1 Месяц назад

WW monk is my current main and I'm hyped

@hunterw988 Месяц назад

Been waiting for this rework since shadowlands. I didn’t mind being main stat verst because all monk specs were main stat verst so I could play all 3 without worrying about stats

@whooh Месяц назад

Same

@grennbalze Месяц назад

Same same

@archmagoshazrael Месяц назад

WW copium has paid off

@Noisuf Месяц назад

Lifelong WW here so excited to try all this out!

@chef286 Месяц назад

Wish we could get weapon animations while fighting but the rework looks really nice so far and there must be always something to dream of :D

@quercusroburx Месяц назад

just give us a glyph of the blackout strike which change blackout kick, and glyph of tiger strike which changes the tiger palm, so you can use both, or just one and it would give you the classic monk fighting aestetic

@tekamer6566 Месяц назад

Jab used to be a cool weapon animation. Was very unique too. If they return it as a glyph I would be so happy

@Bonerlord Месяц назад

@@tekamer6566 they are! We are getting a glyph that changes Tiger palms animation to Jab

@lurklimit8378 9 дней назад

Your dream came true. Looks like a new glyph that makes tiger palm use their weapon

@quercusroburx 8 дней назад

@@lurklimit8378 So my monk won the main status in WW :D

@darenoon 11 дней назад

Shoulda mentioned the new Jab glyph that replaces Tigers palm, you'll get to swing your melee again!

@izurukamukura221 28 дней назад

Leveling a monk thru remix was a good choice found my main next expansion 🎉

@grennbalze Месяц назад

6:13 that Ele shaman mustve been PISSED

@MarcelianOnline Месяц назад

I mean, i gotta... you know... but the stuns..... and i was slowed.... didn't wanna die....

@EriSenshur Месяц назад

@@MarcelianOnline lmfao spoken like a true monk player - MW mains everywhere

@grennbalze Месяц назад

I was saying to scrap hero talents and just focus on iterating on all of the talent trees, reworks, and tier sets. As a monk main, this rework was a very nice surprise and am cool with hero talents as long as the base trees feel good

@MarcelianOnline Месяц назад

Very good point, it was bound to happen, but still important to point out that Spec>Hero Talents

@user-nj4rq3pn4g 29 дней назад

i love ww monk , was main every start of expansions. But yes, every start only ... its overpowered 2 weeks then blizz nerf it so bad and it becomes the worst dps ... always like that ...

@botta88 Месяц назад

Monk has been been my favorite class. This all seems pretty cool to me.

@dirusj4006 Месяц назад

There are a couple changes already addressing some of these issues. Blizzard is treating monk like a real class again

@alancode2147 Месяц назад

Grats to the ww mains, now if only survival could be treated like it exists.

@he11gun Месяц назад

@@alancode2147 The name of the spec speaks for itself. You have to survive.

@stephendlabick7550 Месяц назад

Finally! They’re making the ww a “many small hits = few big hits”! They’ve tried this before but they’re finally doubling down on that design philosophy and I’m here for it

@dailydistraction3793 Месяц назад

i loved ww so much in bfa. i hated bonedust and it ruined the class for me. the lower keybinds literally have me wanting to level my ww now lol

@MrJoemccloskey Месяц назад

It’s worth mentioning the attack speed generated post FoF. It’ll help you get out those thunderfist melees. Currently you don’t auto during FoF or SCK so it’s a nice quality of life improvement

@StealingYourWiFi Месяц назад

This guy Def plays monk

@Ditronus. Месяц назад

Wish they gave blackout kick a new sfx and animation. It just looks clumsy and sounds like the *miss* sfx, a basic whoosh. Get creative and dramatic, I say. Add some more effects.

@RaddyC Месяц назад

I wonder if they’re gonna do something to reduce brewmaster’s button bloat. I’d probably main it but it’s got just too many buttons

@malekich6315 Месяц назад

Great video!!! I think I read in wowhead's notes that expel harm no longer generates chi points :D

@inchmo6121 18 дней назад

I'm sad that sky reach was removed

@smittl Месяц назад

I'm sooo happy about chiwave passive, it's probably my MOST forgotten spell across all toons. I can't wait to see what good it can actually do for once 🤣

@MarcelianOnline Месяц назад

Same here!

@Pandareen Месяц назад

So as i understand on 12:00 you use FOF then RSK than Whirlwind then tiger palm than blackout kick for a maximum blackout kick damage?

@AnteikuNation Месяц назад

Flame, Does this mean I don’t have to tab target each enemy now for AOE?

@dylanmccool2629 Месяц назад

I’m super hyped about Templar ret paladin since ret is my main but I’m definitely wanting to try windwalker now

@Zepulchure Месяц назад

During the remix I plan to try out healer for the first time, Mistweaver monk specifically, (also first time monk) and with the hype for wind walker, I look forward to hearing more details on mistweaver, as I hope that it will be my healer for war within (and remix of course)

@mung01re Месяц назад

Shame this won’t be ready for Remix. I think a lot of people will be wanting to roll monks.

@akirohitan4698 18 дней назад

They should really let you choose with your tree if you want buffs to be automated or not. Basically make it to where you have a casual build and a more serious option for people to choose from

@Kiwicrack Месяц назад

on the one hand, I'm very excited about the prospect of being able to main monk for real. On the other hand, what are the chances that a lot of the redesign are bugs? Cos Windwalker.

@stevehall364 Месяц назад

You missed something, teachings of the monastery makes it hit an additional time. So at 8 stacks when you hit blackout kick it actually hits 9 times including the initial cast and the 8 stacks. Which means against three targets you kick 27 times

@calumbir 10 дней назад

Do we still need to target swap on aoe to do best damage? Thats the main factor deciding for me to play ww

@edu2986 Месяц назад

There are so many other changes not covered here. Devs released a new blue post addressing the tiger palm dmg topic as well

@MarcelianOnline Месяц назад

enjoy!

@SurpriseCake Месяц назад

Really excited ❤

@WorldofPokecraft Месяц назад

I'm new to monk, but wouldn't the 24 blackout kicks with full stacks in aoe also be copied by storm earth and fire?

@petfish7385 8 часов назад

Playing WW in remix, brand new to melee, how difficult is this new build to play well?

@Prayse9 Месяц назад

i loved serenity :( way more than SEF

@Joeygiggles3 Месяц назад

This is way overdue, really glad they decided to fix Monks. Hopefully it plays well and I can stick with it as my main instead of going prot pally

@hannesbenz8245 Месяц назад

waiting for your video with the Frost DK rework is crazy title :D

@LowEnd_tesla Месяц назад

Jesus Christ I am so pumped to keep the windwalker train rolling. These are gorgeous changes!!

@L0rks Месяц назад

Rework?! Incredible. Thank you for walking the wind, general Flamewalker :)

@James-kv3ll Месяц назад

Glad to see them leaning into the Air Bending aspect of WINDwalker a bit more with Strike of the Wind Lord almost have it’s own wind based portion of the talent tree. Lighter than air also adds to the fantasy

@mrnoidea1009 Месяц назад

Yes exactly, it might sound silly but what brought me to monk was Avatar the last Airbender, particularly air nomads.

@teeslea9345 Месяц назад

I'm so happy 😭 my poor main was so sad

@antoniopaiva4062 Месяц назад

Marcilian do you have a guild in Tarren Mill?

@AkiRa22084 Месяц назад

Clash is my favorite Monk ability! A combination of DK's and Warr's best abilities. I'm so happy all specs can get it now!

@James-kv3ll Месяц назад

Glad blizzard finally realized that LESS DAMAGE in the class trees is a better design

@gmTyler Месяц назад

#justiceforexpelharm Expel Harm must be on use. it is a heal, a desired 1 Chi at will, and allows for easier combo strikes. Tiger Palm being more energy will make combo strikes harder and missing expel harm will be felt.

@JumboCod91 Месяц назад

Thank god for the reduced bloat. I love monk, have loved it since MoP, but I have never once mained it for that very reason. Every season I bring it out, realise that I need a piano degree to play optimally with at least 3 abilities that add nothing but are mandatory because they sim better... I love to learn complicated specs with a lot of choice and on the fly decisions, but ability bloat doesn't make a spec interesting, particularly when so many monk abilities just do damage with zero interactions with the way the class functions.

@DankMemes-xq2xm Месяц назад

Agreed, and it's why I think Ret paly is the best designed melee spec right now - basically zero bloat, the only things you have to worry about are utility abilities that you only use once in a blue moon. Enhance shaman is also suffering from bloat right now, I would totally play it if it was like the Legion version but I don't wanna press 20 keys per second and get carpal tunnel.

@MrJoemccloskey Месяц назад

Having expel harm is nice to heal after big hits or prior too them in higher keys so taking away the ability to time it as we please kinda hurts. I also hear we are losing some defensive options in pursuit of minimizing button bloat. I feel we rely on the abundance of defensives due to our low health pool, I’m worried if we don’t get a stam buff we might become a hunter/boomy class that just falls over when something isn’t up.

@Bunstonious Месяц назад

Honestly, the only theme for Shado-Pan I can think of is maybe adding stealth (eg. add a stealth and vanish XD). So hype for the WW rework!!! GOSH I WANT TO PLAY IT. Edit: I also love that they're changing Jadefire Stomp, I actually am one of the few monks that loves it.

@Tsubaki189 19 дней назад

Monk WW is an high apm class? Compared to rogue maybe

@gatsuyatsu Месяц назад

Can you please make a video about Slayer? highly interested to see your perspective on it as a warrior enjoyer!

@MarcelianOnline Месяц назад

On its way!

@syxqid3818 Месяц назад

My main is fun actually and now it sounds amazing 😂uncontrolled means targets that aren't in CC. For pvp really good so you dont box enemys out of sheep or trap 😅 and don't know why you don't like serenity i find it a bomb cd 😂 now i hope blizz will change the mastery like ret palys instead of buffing it, so many spells are now passiv, keeping mastery up with this downtime wont be fun 😢 and hope also they rework or delete tigerstatue has actuall 2min cd and if you place it and the tank needs to move the dmg is complete gone.

@jamesj5612 Месяц назад

Do you still need to summon Xuen?

@travisshannon9040 Месяц назад

Gawd dayum! I was thinking of going Ret for TWW, but after this video.. Hmmm.. The fact that they are bringing in Shado-pan armor mog instead of just the hat. My role play as being a watcher on the wall is coming true!

@EriSenshur Месяц назад

I plan to join the patreon asap, but i have multiple characters id love a wallpaper of, can i just throw you guys money to get them made? xD

@frozendavinci Месяц назад

when wow talk about class rework they will never talk about animations right ?

@ademord Месяц назад

I need spellcrafting SO BAD so we can customize our own animations omg

@DankMemes-xq2xm Месяц назад

What's wrong with the animations?

@Pandareen Месяц назад

It would be cool for monk to have new ability where he stands on one foot and fast striking you multiply times with other foot stunning you for 3 seconds in AOE

@davidnagy364 Месяц назад

im thinking to switch main to ww monk shado-pan looks fun with the new monk reowrk

@michaelandreasen993 Месяц назад

wisdom of the wall?! the pinkfloyd one or the berlin one? - monk looks fun though! :D

@leolucca416 Месяц назад

WW is my main, i love the class, but it needs some animations upgrades, and also im hoping that i can play as a shado pan in pvp, raiding and mythic plus, i dont like the vibe of summoning things, Xuen i cant tank, but the others... ehhh, no.

@andreasciemala8263 Месяц назад

Is sck not off the gcd anymore?

@tukeww4525 Месяц назад

I feel like every spec should have a double jump / dash ability to make the game feel more modern, like nothing beats the feeling when you can fel rush out of harms way or monk roll to a better position. We need more baseline mobility not a capstone abilities like that lighter than air but we as wow players are easy to make in awe with that kind of little things whilst the younger generation is turning their heads elsewhere in embarrassment.

@Autologic_ Месяц назад

#MarcelianOnline is mastery still not changed ?

@evilvash0 Месяц назад

I don't have alpha but I feel like Trickster might fit my playstyle around KillingSpree and Sinister Strike which I get most don't like they rather play with BTE Spam which also isn't for me.

@Rob-pb7lm 17 дней назад

Great vid, thanks for making content. You do a solid job hyping people up about the game, and I'm stoked for Monk in TWW! Was planning on maining monk and druid for those sick class sets anyways

@MarcelianOnline 17 дней назад

Hehe glad you liked it :), happy you didnt get to see our original demo and destro vids, you wouldn’t have thought that anymore 😂😂

@nicholasdasilva3638 12 дней назад

Do they lose touch of karma?

@Thagias Месяц назад

Shado-pan hero talent will require some addon tracking in order to have ANY control over the passive and countiing will be going on in the background.... I am dissapointed in this design, not going to lie. Which kind of give me Enhancement SHaman vibe at today state, which I rerolled from as it is not fun in PvP what so ever...

@AkiRa22084 Месяц назад

Uh, most players have been using external sources for builds since 2004.

@mikedarling905 Месяц назад

the one thing i hate about fist of fury cast time is that if i use jade fire, and it procs before, i might miss the free jadefire, so i cancel early.

@mikedarling905 Месяц назад

i will still play a shado pan windwalker, even if the other one is way better. i am so excited to have this flavor attached to my chr. its why i was maldraxious monk too

@JediObiDave 7 дней назад

monks need a triple dash that makes them walk on air.

@edwardhatfield5360 Месяц назад

Never played WW before, but I will now.

@danieljordan8732 Месяц назад

if they don't fix shaman the same way, i will be maining monk in the next xpac

@ignan1923 5 дней назад

In the same boat here

@Blood_Ronin Месяц назад

WW in pvp is gunna be nutty.

@monapow1 Месяц назад

i doubt without serenity

@L3Go0LaS2 Месяц назад

wow wow wow i liked jade ignition and played with it in M+ shadowlands :D and a bit in dragonlands

@emjaythegreat22 Месяц назад

Honestly there are so many skills that are macro together or passives that just make sense to go with abilities instead of picking them. I wish they would do like they do a stat squish and do a skill squish rework. And redesign the classes to the fantasy they want them to be as. With covenants having so many more abilities thrown into the mix new players are always so lost. It needs more streamlined to keep players coming! The new action targeting they have in game has been feeling really nice not gonna lie!

@handsomezack1075 Месяц назад

I haven't changed my main since WoD. It might just be monk time.

@rouvenbose5831 Месяц назад

i never checked if the sef clones do the extra Blackout kicks but if they do... oh boy... thats a lot of a$$es kicked

@Unorthodoxi Месяц назад

I love the talent that gives you a 20% chance to kick as an auto instead of an unarmed fist strike but I would still LOVE if we got to use weapons again. One day they will stop being just decorations.

@mrnoidea1009 Месяц назад

No disrespect here, but I think you picked the wrong class to show off weapons. A big part of monk identity in most games and WoW, too, is that you use your fists as weapons.

@Unorthodoxi Месяц назад

@@mrnoidea1009 I'm going to have to disagree right back then I'm afraid. Monks started out having the jab ability and its animation was tied to whatever weapon you had. 99% of the monk's kit was unarmed but for that one ability, you swung your weapon. Monks in real life are not solely tied to using just their fists either which is why we have so many examples that are *specifically* tied to the monk identity like the Shaolin Spade and shakujō. I would be perfectly happy having it as a glyph so players can *choose* whether or not they agree with your position or mine.

@mrnoidea1009 Месяц назад

@Unorthodoxi Thank you for the explanations, I wouldn't be opposed to having some abilities making us draw our weapons, as long as most of them remain based on fists or kicks.

@buddybarlow9604 Месяц назад

What are the odds Marcelian rerolls once again

@ourcommonancestry6025 Месяц назад

Anything good for pet clsses?

@Jkiller2012 Месяц назад

Clash is really really good for high level PvP

@AngryBitterNeckbeard Месяц назад

With how unbelievably underpowered WW has been for the majority of existence, Blizz owes them multiple expansions of being S tier every patch.

@gregtroufas8066 Месяц назад

keep dreaming poor monk...

@zalmone Месяц назад

things like "lighter than air" should really be implemented in other classes (especially agile classes like rogue and hunter) to make the game's movement feel more modernized and fluid like the newer classes do (DH and evoker), great seeing these additions to the game. They did also add the death charger ability to rider of the apocalypse DK which proves how much the game could do with some interesting new movement mechanics, as the publics opinion overall seems pretty in favor of it

@andrewthomas817 Месяц назад

BREWMASTER please tell us anything blizzard

@Bandit-bx7jo Месяц назад

Hopefully frost dk gets some love. DKs in general, actually..

@kayjay4 Месяц назад

Rejoice Ww monks!

@garrickkthegreat5762 Месяц назад

ok im gonna switch to monk.

@tony9099 10 дней назад

U didnt care about bonedust brew since shadowlands? Bonedust brew in shadow lands was busted!

@UnbearablePeacock Месяц назад

They missed the opportunity to name that capstone "Feet of fury".

@Xero-Space Месяц назад

How dare you, I loved Serenity

@mikedarling905 Месяц назад

wait i cant manual expel harm, i use it for combo mastery when i cant cast anything to continue it

@Faebyte 11 дней назад

Lore Accurate Windwalker Monk

@sc00p4stoned Месяц назад

The only bad thing about that is.. we have to wait months for this to hit the live servers (pre patch) and we're still stuck with this awful gameplay now :(

@DankMemes-xq2xm Месяц назад

Time to play a diff class / spec. You might find something you like even more than monk

@Deviantloverable 20 дней назад

Shadopans...where is my stealth!!

@mattdallass5916 5 дней назад

All nice and dandy... But can I get spinning fire Blossom 🌸 back please

@GUkraine Месяц назад

I hope Brew gets even 1/4th of these changes, holey-moley.

@Anonymoussss0207 Месяц назад

We all know how these reworks go, basically will be op for a month then toned down

@zerox3448 Месяц назад

Oh yeah.....We eating good brothers!

@lucasbosso9541 Месяц назад

Ok, now I have one more “problem” to pick the next main

@James-kv3ll Месяц назад

Gonna miss AoE Touch of Death tho. I know it’s a problem but it’s a fun problem

@rodneyhorsley8601 Месяц назад

I like to play WW but the ability and rotation bloat is just dumb. Same with Brew. So these are very much welcomed changes.

@douglasdiggins8296 14 дней назад

This is nice and all but have they fixed all the bugs? Fixed the AI? Does fists of fury still look like my character is slapping a piece of cardboard? I'll pass.