With Minimal Galaxy Z Fold 6 Improvements, Should You Just Buy The OnePlus Open? 

Even so, samsung is still gorgeous just small D vs Large D. Maybe size doesn't always matter 😅

@@platinum9898 Very True! It's the motion of the ocean! 🤣

Dope analogy

This... I get the upgraders are disappointed, but, solid hardware and amazing hardware on the ZF6. The software is so much more important these days, and on a fold, even more important.

Hey man, I'm looking into these chinese alternatives but I'm not quite sure. Can you please mention what exactly was lacking software-wise for you?

Different perspective: I'm looking into buy a fold for the first time. Been looking at all the different folds and at first I was leaning towards the Pixel fold and then discovered the OnePlus open and was disappointed with the Z Fold 5. But after constantly looking at them for the last month I ultimately have set my mind on the fold 6 as my first fold. It seems like most people complain from upgrading their fold to the new Samsung fold and I can understand why they are underwhelmed with the upgrades however for a first time fold buyer who is looking for that tablet in your pocket for the multitasking and software I can deny that Samsung just seems to make the most sense. For me the fold is more about productivity not the aesthetic (while this is nice too). I wish I saw more perspectives online of people looking to go to a fold for the first time and why however this just may have been lacking for me since I am late to the foldable phone community

@@calebbeckley9781 and people who do real work, not just scrolling social media.

How do you figure the software isn’t as good on the OnePlus Open? It has the best multitasking software on any foldable. OnePlus Open has significantly better cameras, bigger battery and much faster charging, and it’s cheaper. And, it has a much more usable outer display and a much less significant crease on the inner display.

Over the past four years, I have been a loyal user of the Samsung Z Fold series. However, I am concerned that Samsung is not innovating enough with its latest releases. The Z Fold 6 appears to offer only minor tweaks compared to its predecessors, and the price increase is not justified. I considered switching to the OnePlus Open for my next phone, but after reviewing the software reviews, I am hesitant. The software issues reported by users give me pause, and I am concerned that the OnePlus Open may not be a reliable choice. As a result, I have decided to keep my current Z Fold 5 for another year. I hope that Samsung will make significant improvements to the Z Fold 7, or that OnePlus will address the software issues with the Open 2. Until then, I will continue to use my Z Fold 5.

@jsb13x13 yep why I waited since I'm rocking the zf3 so the 6 is an upgrade for me.

​@jsb13x13 Samsung chose to perfecting current z fold. For instance, instead of increasing battery mah, better optimize the phone to use less power at high performance. Same for others, too. People is loyal to samsung because of the experience.

pokedex?

@macewindu9100 hahaha, wait if you are serious, no, I mean Samsung Dex.

Jealous, I just don't want to have to give up my Verizon levels of coverage and speed to have to go to T-Mobile to use other Chinese OEMs

Let's see how the durability goes in 3 months😂

They did kinda, with promotions the Z Fold doesn't cost nearly as much as MSRP claims. You can get a new one every two years for about $600 with trade in, straight from Amazon with no trade in for $1300, and you can find all sorts of deals beyond those. Best one I personally heard of was someone in Canada got his Fold 5 and Watch 6 classic without trade in for $1050 CAD(~$768 USD).

You can side load the Oppo Theme Store and customize things a little more. Not as in depth as Good Lock but it's still something worth playing with.

@@marcochavanne good to know thanks!

No sense? What are you talking about? 1. OnePlus offers 4 years of Android updates and 5 years of security updates. 2. It charges in a fraction of the time as a Samsung with the INCLUDED charger in the box. 3. The accessories like wireless charging dock and cases cost less than Samsung products.

​@@Anonymous-pm7jfI hear what you are saying but a wireless charging stand is useless with the Open since it doesn't support wireless charging.

I feel ya. How easy is it to get repaired if something goes wrong

Well, security and updates

Software is way better in OnePlus So for some, vivo isn't better than OnePlus but it depends on person to person!

@@Thetayr75 theres the Pixel Fold 2, Mi Mix 4, and Honor Magic v3 coming soon. One of these might be better than the Vivo.

​@@karishma_k lmao, no it isn't.

That's exactly why I don't buy one . Had it been on T-Mobile I would have gotten it cuz of the quick turn with their insurance. I had 2, fold 2s that broke . Spent 5 dollars each time because it was. Warranty exchange. The 3rd time they sent me the fold 3. So far so good . And God for bid the 3 breaks no sweat . Pay 5 bucks for another warranty exchange and hey maybe I'll get the fold 4 lol ..plus it overnight shipping as opposed to waiting 45 days .. no way

A lot of foldable displays from all manufacturers fail, but how it's handled is what makes the difference. If you get the Open get insurance through Progressive or someone similar because their customer service is lacking. Samsung is typically really great about it but it's not always the case. I've been burned by Samsung a few times for shady warranty denials.

Because we like the form factor of the z fold over those. Pixel fold 2 looks too big for a foldable for me

No s pen, no flex mode, no dex mode. That's a huge deal breaker for me. Samsung should be marketing the heck out of Dex. It completely changes your ecosystem. Samsung ecosystem included. Plus if you want to use a one plus open in flex mode I heard it's harder? How does that work?What about tent mode and flex mode for group pics? I'm just curious because I've seen the one plus but never used it same with the other foldables overseas that all look great and wipe the floor with the z fold in terms of specs but lack Samsung ecosystem and seem to function as a phone/mini tablet as opposed to as a true foldable with modes in between. I feel like I'm wrong though?

People crave year over year major updates. People don't seem to care about software these days. They just want bigger screen. Better camera. Janky software? Eh doesn't matter lol. Samsung should start making pants so we get bigger pockets so we can start bringing tablets out of the house.

@@robbieheywood6884 Honor Magic has that.

@@robbieheywood6884 dex mode is not needed anymore. smartphone link of windows has everything thats needed and even without wire that dex needs. for drag and dropping files you use windows explorer and have bookmarks to the important folders. and soon android will also have a dex integrated.

While I do agree with some of your points here, I think we do have to acknowledge that their foldable market share is dropping and it's dropping quite rapidly in some regions. I don't think this is a coincidence.

Sounds like you're making excuses for Samsung. Try a OnePlus or Google device and you'll find you're missing a lot of upgrades.

Can you elaborate? OnePlus Open software isn't far behind Samsung's. Multitasking is better in OnePlus Open as well.

​@@RonnetSo I'm not the type of person to spend thousands on multiple phones and I've never used the Open, but from what I've seen they're pretty much identical other than the gestures you use to start multitasking?

@@Ronnet funny you'd mention multitasking because that's one of the big areas where I definitely prefer the Z Fold software. I do think the Open's switching animations look very nice, and I could do that swipe down the middle gesture all day... but I simply can't multitask as efficiently with the canvas style that OnePlus has implemented. With two apps side-by-side things are fine, but when I throw a third app into the mix, then I have to dance with which ones are actively displayed - so I tend to call canvas multitasking "canvas multi-taskswitching" On Z Fold, I can comfortably have a 3D art reference app like poseit, music, and my drawing app all displayed at the same time. To get all three usable onscreen at the same time on Open, it has to be in that zoomed out view where there's either severe pillarboxing or severe letterboxing. Outside of that, the three app canvas multitasking means that in every scenario, there's screen real estate lost to gray borders and the edge of a app I can't get the most of... if I have to tap app edges to bring them back into view, I'd use the same amount of energy as if I swipe the bottom of the screen to just task-switch. And I'd rather just do that to maximize how much of the screen is used. Not knocking anyone who enjoys the OnePlus canvas, but Z Fold's the one that lets me tap one pair icon and instantly open three apps without thick borders everywhere.

​​@@ALionlikeManeI have wondered how about this for a while. From what I have gathered, it seems like most people like to use the unfolded phone just for video and media consumption, not necessarily multitasking with two to three apps at the same time. Of course yourself and others I'm sure are exceptions to that, but that's just what I feel like I've heard. What about you?

@@Zer0.-_ I'm only 𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘧 an exception there. Like I do use the cover display for those purposes, but one app on a 23.1:9 aspect ratio to me is just waaaaay more vertical information than I could possibly need, so I almost always put that extra height to work with a second app. My usual pair is RU-vid up top split to take up ~20% of the screen and Instagram, 𝕏 or Facebook taking up the bottom ~80%. That's about as much multitasking as I can comfortably do on the Z Fold cover display.

Lmao ... Keeping it for two years??? The Foldable screen doesn't last two years....plus good luck dealing with the non existent OnePlus customer service 😅 plus the Open lacks on so many features including wireless charging,text to call, screening calls like Google,Dex, smart tag,and better updates

Where you getting that the screen only last two years unless you're on the subreddit pages every day? lol ​@Cubano2031

@@Ajeez1000 Not reddit,but the OnePlus forums are plage with complaints..... I'm on my second one already because the inner screen failed two times ...and man the OnePlus customer service is a mess

@Cubano2031 that is one reason I may stay with samsung but I also habe insurance through t-mobile and they were fine getting me a replacement phone.

​@@Cubano2031You must be pretty harsh with your phone lol take better care of your stuff

Well then what happens when you have a foldable phone let's say OnePlus and you can't properly use it unfolded because the software și bugged? Or when you try to do something and it just crashes?

Sale it and go with a different foldable.I would think.

I don’t care about that when the software isn’t taking advantage of it. One of the most important factors in user experience for something niche like a folding phone is software, and at the moment Samsung has the best. Goodlock alone is enough to keep me from considering another brand.

Are you comparing the sales price of the Open to the full price of the Fold?

@@mchief190 that was many MANY years ago. To be fair, Samsungs software updates then were terrible as well.

So are you going back to the Fold or are you happy with the Open?

@@PaulWagner1 Warning, below is long: TL;DR. Staying with OnePlus for now. Has its quirks compared to Samsung, but not all bad, and Samsung hasn't wowed me enough again just yet to leave. I'll probably skip this and wait for OnePlus' next offering. Based on specs, it doesn't really make sense for me to go back to Samsung right now. I agree with Shane, though, Samsung's version of Android is superior IMO, but that doesn't mean that OnePlus' version is bad, it just has some quirks that I've learned to live with. In case you're interested. Here are some things that just came to my mind as I'm using the Open: Assuming stock launcher 1. Can't resize widgets placed on home screen 2. Can't create widget stacks 3. No search option if you want to search through your long list of widgets a lot of things I took for granted as native Android features were just features that Samsung (and probably other OEMs) built in their own skins 4. FIDO2 / Web Authn Security keys can't seem to be stored on the Open (in my experience, anyway). You try to start the process, Open wants your bio auth to confirm the key, then it fails. Tried this with multiple providers including Google, 1Password, Github, Auth0, etc. + a few more that I can't think of right now unless I happen across them again. And lastly, the Support experience. I've opened about 5 tickets with OnePlus support asking about the above quirks and others,trying to figure out if this is a bug and a planned fix is coming, OR, this is just par for the course. Of the 5 tickets, 4/5 times, the support person had no idea what I was talking about. They always tried to push me off and contact the other "vendor" to solve the issue, as if another vendor was the cuase of the issue with their products. In my opinion, the frontline team they present to solve user issues isn't nearly as technically skilled as they need to be. In contrast, Samsung's reps were always willing to talk with me, and even if they didn't necessarily have a solve, at least they understood the problem statement, which is a better first step. I originally left Samsung because their changes from 4 to 5 (and now 6) seem iterative at best and nothing groundbreaking, and at the time , the wider outer display of the Open attracted me, and gave me a chance to try and OEM I never previously had. One final positive for OnePlus. They seem to run a lot of cool promotions on their stuff. Within this year of owning the Open, I've saved a bunch of money on buying their Buds 3, Watch 2, 2 extra of their "red cables", and a free duffel bag. lol. Not bad.

Software is better? I don't think so...

@@kfx3907 a few things I can think of: 1. Smoother animations 2. More efficient multitasking 3. Less bloat 4. Native icon pack support 5. Offscreen gestures 6. Can customize status bar without needing Goodlock

What's got you so fascinated with the Fold software? I've owned a Fold 3 and 4 before dumping them for a OnePlus Open. I found dex useless as I just use a tablet or laptop instead of working off that phone.

If they're smart, they'll offer at least 800

@@scaryifliteral yes, but "if" they were smart, they would've given the fold 6 better specs.🤔

I believe that is correct about the Pixel. Open is made for the US though, no worries there.

The reason I mention it is because it's a difference that lots of people do care about. Personally, I don't really care, but I know for a fact tons of people do.

you can buy oppo stylus pen now

Actually, a lot of the software in Goodlock is actually built into the software on other foldables like the OnePlus Open. Don't let that fool you. I once thought the same thing.

@@Discgolfboggieman You can't beat those Samsung displays though

​ @Discgolfboggieman really? Like 12 customizable gestures that can activate native and non native features? Giving you more access to more capabilities with modes and routines? What about making a new theme for your phone with transparent notification/quick panel? The theme of the phone and the transparency of the noti/quick panel change when switching between light and dark mode. Back ground 3d wallpapers that allow a higher depth of vision when using background effects. Etc. It's crazy that people lie like this.