I know exactly what wiZ is talking about, after a certain point you have to care about yourself enough to know when to let go and let live.. if not it can effect you negatively
Or you can learn an actual support system for Friends or family and learn to help them if it’s someone you actually care about or you can turn ya back and talk about how much you miss them when they’re dead
@@mgm8075 likewise. Coke is for fools I worked as a bartender during college shit was wild, I’ve tried acid and Molly those can’t be done casually either
@@BankaiFever what are you talking about can't do casually? You can't get addicted to acid, and molly stops working if you try take it more than you should
@@muaythaisaro3175 you guys are looking for a savior. A grown man can only tell another grown man so many times. He made a choice, gotta be accountable for your own actions. Don't place blame where there isn't. Rip to Mac🙏
As an exaddict I can honestly say can’t get thu someone who doesn’t wanna quit.I’ve been sober for 4years now but I did it on my own time no matter what anyone said or did It had no bearing on my decisions
@A yeah my bestfriend and my closest cousin both went down this road. They’re not dead but they’re clearly lost. I’ve tried and tried to convince and help but it’s theyre choice they’re adults not babies. I have my life too, I love them but it’s their choice to change.
@A I have a close family member who we never gave up on and he’s now on the right track, it’s different for everybody, stop generalizing. You never know.
@@sadabcore1 I’m talking ab someone so close to you that it affected your life in some way. Not just a third aunt’s nephew that you’ve never met. And no not everyone has
@@OP_SB be feeling like I’m weird sometimes because some of the ish my people say confuses me and what confuses me more is they have a whole line of mf ok the ish…but it is what it is????
@@shakazulu9065 the world are lovers of themselves. Don’t lose your character. Be the light in the darkness. You’re not alone. There are small beams of light who think like you! Don’t conform to the ways of the world. They are lost. You will be hated for being a righteous person because they can’t relate to you. They’ll call you boring old fashion hater negative but that’s only the prospective of evil. Of course someone saying stealing is wrong is boring and weird to a thief! Be safe brother. Don’t let the world change you.
I agree shame on wiz for trying to help someone who didn't want the help and that person dies way before they are supposed to, how could he be so evil he should have joined him instead and they'd probably both be alive
@@Erik-ui8tr bro you can’t blame wiz for macs demons, he probably did reach out and try to help. Like he was saying he couldn’t get thru to him, Mac didn’t wanna help himself. He understood the world he was in and what he was feeling in it, but he didn’t wanna stop it and change.
@@MadiAndPeach not true, that’s a misconception and only case by case basis. You never know when you will breakthrough too somebody. The minute you give up, it shows your true character.
As a former drug addict/alcoholic I can confirm. Courts, family, friends, boss, wife, nothing nobody said got me to sobriety. Just got tired and went to a meeting and it turned into 4yrs now.
As someone who was on the other side but ended up being okay I can respect what Wiz is saying. Some of my friends did the same to me. They can only wish for me to get well for so long. It wasn’t until I wanted to that things worked out. Unfortunately a lot of those friends aren’t really in my life anymore but life goes on💯
Respect to Wiz honesty . Despite how he had to protect himself by introversion , you can still feel the sadness as he thinks about it . Seemed like he was concerned for a forlorn brother he accepted he just can’t help . RIP KING MAC
You know when I started to leave drug dealing & tried getting my friends out of that lifestyle, I couldn’t get through to them even when they saw everyone either going to jail or dying. Now most of my friends I know now are not even around.
I have an old high school friend who brought me to a crackhouse without telling me...after that I knew she was gone....she still out in the streets 20 yrs later
It’s one thing to get them to listen, it’s a whole other thing tryna make them think the way you think. You can’t tell an addict “just smoke weed” “just don’t do it anymore” and expect it to be that easy. You may have the power to say no, but for others it’s takes years of dedication for that no to stick.
This might sound harsh. But you can’t make people do anything they don’t want to do. Wiz probably cared for Mac. They probably weren’t too close, but you can’t care more for somebody than they care for themselves. It will literally drain you mentally and emotionally. Sometimes the best thing to do is to wash your hands and move on.
That’s unfortunate, I know some people try their best to help people, but I also know how hard addictions can be. Sadly stuff like this leads to very dark times.
Peoples negativity and hopelessness can bring you down too. Help where you can, but don’t sacrifice your own happiness and success for someone who wont help themselves.
I do see what hes saying but damn bruh you dont gotta drop someone like that i drop people for serious fucked up shit not for stuggling with drugs and stuff especially not if I consider you my friend everyone has a story you know
He said he drops them “if he can’t get through to them” meaning he tried his best to help him but Mac wouldn’t listen .. When you truly care about someone and all you see is them doing shit you know that’s not good and they continue to do it over and over again at one point you gotta leave because it hurts to see someone you love hurt themselves even if they see it as a pleasurable thing.. I’m sure Wiz would have loved nothing more for him and Mac to be friends till this day . You gotta surround yourself with the right people
@@spaceman2414 thats very true actually I dont know the whole situation between the 2 so I wont say he should have loved him harder and longer but it would take a long time for me to just drop people because they are on some drugs if he was acting like aggressive and wanting to fight all the time id be like yeah theres no helping you but it seems like the guy was just in a bad place and needed the right kind of people around him and it doesn't look like was was one of those people when he said "I washed my hands" its like he was something to get off of you...thats fucked up and says alot about how much actual "love" he had for mac
@@ArcherInTraining2 Yah I feel you but who’s to say how long Wiz put up with it , and when he says “I washed my hands” he’s meaning he got them dirty trying to help Mac but you can’t help people that don’t want help no matter how much you love them no matter how long you’ve known them no one I mean no one can help anyone that doesn’t want it . So why should I sit here and watch you suffer and then once you die I have to bare the burden of it all so I don’t blame wiz for getting out of there because if Wiz stayed he would be more emotional involved and that’s not healthy worrying about someone 24/7 I understand that’s your fam but I have a life too , I have goals too I can’t just sit here and wait for you because you want to do all types of drugs and what not I have a whole career that I want to thrive and I can’t do all that worrying about you and slowing down for you , as a Friend Mac should of understood that a Friendship is a partnership not just one side gets Al the attention Wiz was completely in the right
@@ArcherInTraining2 how long would you stick around a friend that was hurting you? No specific situation. Just textbook definition of "hurt". The blame is being placed on Wiz but you gotta take his pain into consideration too.
mac knew what he got into, i saw wiz tribute to him in concert right after he died shit was beautiful. he dont wanna see everyone around him die and that’s understandable how about we let our brother mac rest and just bump all his crazy fuckin good music
Right. He didn't give a damn about Mac. You love someone you stick with them through their illness and whenever they're ready to get help you're right there to take them to the doctor. The clinic or rehab therapy. Whatever. Hell if he had been there that night Mac would still be alive! But he had to step away for himself. I understand. That means he just don't give a damn. And that's ok too but just say it. Don't pretend you did it for them.
Went through this with my brother, did everything I could and once it started hurting me too bad I had to let him go. A month later he was dead , it just sucks sometimes to know he would still be alive if I would’ve just kept pushing.
When you're going through a hard time, would you want people to look down on you? There is no such thing as love from a distance. People cant feel love from a distance. You can love people and support people without enabling them
That's not love. That's selfishness. Addiction is a mental illness. All that "abandon them and let them kill themselves" shit is archaic substance abuse treatment. I'd have never recovered from heroin (ten years) if it weren't for the people who stuck by me. I'd be dead in my grave at 25 too with friends like Wiz. I tell my family and friends all the time thank you thank you thank you for not giving up on me you know that I know you saved my life. And it took them TEN YEARS! They hung in there alllll that time for me. I'm very lucky. Luckier than Mac. You wouldn't think you're luckier than a millionaire rap star until you hear their friends vs my friends talk. Now I'm four years sober and I will spend the rest of my life paying them back. I'll be there when they get sick. No matter if they live or die I'll try my hardest and NEVER GIVE UP trying to help them. I'll be holding their hand when they leave this world. I am so lucky. I never went hungry and never went homeless (unless I wanted to). They always were there. And they were there the day I needed a ride to rehab and they were there everyday to visit and there when I got out to take me to therapy. ❤️ But I admit you really have to love someone to do all that to save them and Wiz just didn't. That's ok too.
@@Noise_floorxx How is that looking down on you? Stop victimizing yourself and take accountability. Somebody can only do so much but if YOU don’t wanna change then change isn’t going to happen. I’m not about to waste my time caring more for you than you care about your damn self . Especially if I have others to care about
I had to do this with my brother. Tried everything. Wasted years of my life. Affected me mentally. I said to him: “next time we see each other it will be at either one of our funerals”
"Why waste your time?" Whats your time really worth when you couldn't save your friend. " I love you" People like this don't even know what that means.
Wiz is smart doesn’t surround himself around people that will probably bring him down. Wiz is a business he is his own business. Now just like he said “but I love you” but can’t be around you like that if you’re down on another level. The key to being successful is surrounding yourself around smart successful people not junky’s, or someone that could bring trouble into your life. Rip Mac Miller, legends never die.
As someone who has a recovering friend I was and still am the only homie out of our squad that still checks up and keeps in contact some do pull through and find the better side it’s a shame that wiz is so ignorant on this subject I bet he has trouble sleeping sometimes because of the thought of what if I kept trying would I have been able to help him but it’s a cycle I get it you just have to bear with them they’re trying it’s just really really really fucking hard
Makes that person feel alone and when ur lone wolfing it you'll end up doing even more and even more depressed ; eventually some ppl who may not have many friends or family get progressively worse and lose all hope for redemption and become a shut in. Incredibly sad ... I feel the same as you too 9n this subject . Something I know of very well dealing with my family and friends. My best friend didn't give up on me and didn't judge me - or talking to other ppl behind my back shoveling dirt on me no he didn't bug me and he waited until I finally came around thank God. He was my 9nly friend I could trust and I'm very grateful to have such a good friend/brother . (Don't completely give up on ppl please 🙏 no one is saying you baby sit them just check in and at least talk to them if possible . Eventually there's a fork in the road and ppl can only go a certain way. Cold hearts aren't needed these days a little bit of empathy goes a loooooong way. God speed and God bless 🙌)
Why give up on your friend and a person you love. You wouldn’t want somebody giving up on you.💯 despite what they go through everybody needs help when it comes to addiction. I’m pretty sure somebody told him to stop smoking weed but he didn’t listen he still does it.
Some people aren’t actually aren’t open to help. They just want someone to vent to, thinking that’ll help, but if you offer advice it won’t be heard. They’re too caught up in feeling bad for themselves.
exactly,i myself spent time on my friends too but at the end of the day we are who we are,whatever they become,i don’t feel bad because i try for them and they won’t listen.
As someone who lived with a lot of my family member dealing with drug abuse and other things sometimes you gotta love th from a distance and when you cut ties that can be a wake up call for someone especially if they fuck with you.
I have a feeling a lot of ppl asked wiz this question a lot. Just cuz they came up together and went to the same school doesn’t mean they were always going to be on the same path.
Shit idgaf if I gotta keep saying it if I love you and you my brotha I won’t stop and keep hoping one day I’ll get through to you sorry Wiz lost all respect for you after that
@@Redeyedflights Personally I think they laced it on purpose. Dudes album blew up.. Mac was already famous, but you can’t tell me this was finally going to be the album that would truly got him on the top 100 charts with songs like self care hitting #1. Especially with him for the most part being independent. He would’ve made loads of money and be serious competition because his recent albums since he passed finally brought a new flow to rap meanwhile mumble rap was the trend. This would’ve flipped it. Idk Ik I might sound crazy and that’s fine, but it’s just unfortunate he died the same month I was FINALLY going to see him live. I couldn’t help, but to look a little further into it and I know he was an addict, but he was more so even from his day 1 friends knew he was more of a chill addict. What I mean by that is he’s not over doing the drugs, but he is nonetheless enjoying them. It might be hard to hop off, but he knows his limit. He had sex with this girl who was bringing the drugs to allow him to have an amazing night and that’s when he died.. idk it just seems like it was a setup to allow him to enjoy one last fun night before he’s gone for good. People think overdose always means you took too much of a drug.. it had fentanyl in it.. no need to even pretend like he would’ve bought it knowing that would be the case.. Also if it wasn’t a setup then why would the two guys who sold the drugs try and flee the state right after before getting caught? Idk.. personally I think they knew he was depressed and realized this is the perfect time to strike before he blows up in popularity. I’ve got more to add, but I’m sure you probably think I’m wrong so I’ll stop here. Peace
@@Charsi_Escobar Every right to make his own decisions, but Wiz ain’t no superhuman and he ain’t god. Why does he think that he has the gift of being able to save Mac if Mac would just listen? That is called delusional, egoistic thinking. I mean who died and made wiz the King of Recovery? The Sheppard of the lost ? The Preachier Sobriety? The one with all the answers ? It’s so easy to tell someone else how they should live to do things better, and so easy to think you know what’s best for other people. And maybe Wiz did have some stellar advice, but it didn’t go unheard, it was irrelevant because it didn’t alter anyones perception and state of living/being for shit. There wasn’t any weight to his words because there was no consequence to Macs actions or to whether he listened to what he said or not.
If you can't get through to them and keep trying it only makes you more involved in their down fall. Sometimes people can't make it man and it's sad to say
While I never had to deal with someone with addiction, I don't think I could ever 'wash' my hands if I considered myself close to them. I'm not saying put your life on hold but I don't think I would give up trying in some way.
I get this. Doesn’t mean there isn’t love, just means it falls on deaf ears, so it comes down to your own peace as well. Thank you for sharing this ✌️🤟✌️
It's hard to get through to somebody who's stuck in their own head all the time. You hate to watch them drown but the weight on them is too heavy to pull them up.
Kush must've hit him different but damn it hurt seeing him laugh about him like that . He did NOT have this energy on the at the end of the day podcast from like a couple months ago but even there I seen he didn't care like that
Wiz’s mannerisms are just showing how much he cared and how uncomfortable it made him to talk about it. The laugh, with a downward smile. Still see a worried frown under there, the rubbing of his face like he don’t wanna talk about it. Then the sip of water like he’s choked up
Mac was definitely pass the point of conversation with his mental health and addiction. At some point, the person with the problem is the one that needs to seek treatment and healing. 😕
I mean Wiz khalifa wasn’t really his “ friend “ lol music and making making music with other artists is just strictly business lol . Anything involving money Is just strictly buisness, that don’t mean y’all best buds lol .
when some one is addicted of course they don’t wanna stop it’s the only thing they feel happiness , you have to show them a alternative show them others things in life that can create happiness.
Mac push those people away with drugs imagine loving Mac Miller and seeing him destroy his self slowly with drugs would you stick around for that s*** imagine your childhood friend your son daughter possibly even father so deep in the drugs in and out of rehab continuously relapsing you would get tired and leave too to save your own peace of mind
Hes not his family or responsible for his decissions, what he meant was he was drugged all the time to even make a point across or communicate with him.
Kinda ugly that when he died he talked so much about Mac like when he was around they seemed cool in the beginning ofc but like last years before he passed he kinda just sneak dissed Mac Miller
@@littleman938 wiz didn’t care for Mac if Mac wasn’t also making him money. That’s obvious now. How you gonna laugh and shrug off your “friends” death then follow up by saying he wash his hands clean 🤡 arianna had more respect than that
@@ectsy fkn weirdo lol mac died get over it. He didn't want help or didn't listen, nobody is obligated to keep reaching out of yoy don't want help. Grow up lmao
@@ectsy Why waste energy and your own mental being for a guy who doesn’t want to change that’s what he’s saying he loves em but will not help him if he keeps rejecting his help.
I tried this with my boy I heard him out I talked to him I tried to help him many times and he just didn’t change and I couldn’t risk getting caught up in things and possibly arrested for his problems, it’s sad it sucks but I tried all that I can
As someone who beat substance abuse, what he did was right. When you're being that self destructive, you gotta think about life. Addiction really truly is insanity, to 180 is like going and defying gravity, and they'll drag you down with them, because you're a means to an end, they'll use and abuse you, not treated like a friend. Expect you to watch them fade into oblivion, they don't ever think about you, not even considerin.
Would you want to watch your friend slowly fall apart sleeping deeper into depression and drugs and turning into a shadow of the person that they were before would you stick around and watch that happen to somebody you love and care about I feel like it would be easier to stick around if you did not love them or care about them and to fuel the fire that is addiction and get high with them and
Can't help someone who won't help themselves or someone who doesn't want to be helped, unfortunately thats just how it is. Otherwise you'll exhaust yourself working on one person when you could have changed multiple lives for the better within the same time span.
I really appreciate Wiz respecting how he himself would feel when it came to complicated situations. And best wishes for a man with that much emotional awareness. No one has that much awareness for no reason ☹️
When I'm going through depression I'm the only one who can change the situation most of the time it's nothing no one can say I have to see myself out of it it's cold but it's fair