I am linking some shooting with some Federal 240 gr full power .44 Magnum ammo so that people can get a real idea of the recoil energy if this round in comparison to typical .44 Magnum ammo. I think that the Buffalo Bore ammo is not only in general much hotter, but I believe that being a longer than normal projectile coupled with less "smoosh" into the bore because it has no lead core, makes it hang longer and makes even more felt recoil than typical. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bygpNx-29hU.html
@@robertmosher7418 I don't really know. In a 4" barrel probably not, but I would bet longer barrels that retain more power might lose more with porting over not.
@@robertmosher7418 probably .. W a .44 like this Itd take any animal alive Provided shot placement was sufficient. I think you’d be in good hands either way
A carry a 10 mm 1911 Sig originally for bear country. I like the gun so much it became my EDC I use defense rounds but in the woods I use the Buffalo bore.
I wanted people who are not understanding how much recoil this .44 Mag has in a S&W 69 revolver, to understand the recoil as I have had a lot of "I can do it better" comments about taking a step back. First of all, I am fairly strong but am now disabled with several health issues, I am 6'0", 240 and OLDER than people think I am, as i'm in my 40's and my hands are larger than average. To give a couple comparable starting numbers, a typical 9mm pistol in the Glock 19 weight range with typical ammo gives about 6 ft lbs of recoil energy. A typical .357 Magnum in my 4" 686 gives about 9 ft lbs recoil energy. Now onto .44 Magnum. In this revolver, a typical 240 gr JSP round like Remington UMC or Winchester USA will give about 15 ft lbs recoil energy, this is a lot compared to the 9mm. But this Mono-Metal round is a whopping 28 ft lbs recoil energy. To put that into perspective, this is like taking THREE rounds of full house .357 Magnum 158 gr and firing them at the same time from one revolver. To put it short, this Mono-Metal is brutal, but I wanted to share with you guys what it could do. And yes, my hands were sore for 3 days after making this video. But I do appreciate all my subscribers who watch!
Partner that 69 is a handful with a hot round! Now about the hottest recoiling weapon I have fired was a short barreled Ruger with the 454 Casull. This in my opinion is where the model 69 is in 44 mag resides. I have seen rifles with recoil in energy ratings. But never handguns. My 500 is a pussycat with mild rounds but a 700gr Underwood is a handfull.
@@ronniehahn1885 I get it with that .454! My friend has the big old 8 3/8" .460 Mag, and even in that beast we were shooting 200 gr Leverevolution .460 S&W Mags and the recoil was fine, but the "lesser" .454 ammo, I will guess it was like 250 gr or something, had MORE recoil than the .460 S&W Mag. Never figured that out, but my guess is that at a certain power level, bullet weight starts to be more and more important to how much muzzle rise is transitioned back to felt recoil. Like .45 auto VS 9mm, close in power and recoil is close too but the muzzle jumps on .45 with no discernible transfer of actual ft lbs recoil. I will bet the .454 getting up there does push that muzzle rise into discernible recoil lbs. Just a guess though.
@@GunSam yes my friend the 454 is handful and dont let nobody tell you different. Now something you might experiment with is the 45 long colt or some people call it 45 colt. Factory loads are kinda meager so to speak but I have loaded the cartridge to what seems to be past a 44mag. Granted I dont have a chronograph. Just keep doing your videos. Some of the best I have seen. Good luck with your health also.
@@GunSam recoil is measured by knowing the weight of the powder charge, the weight of the bullet, the speed of the bullet and the weight of the firearm. The Ruger is lighter than the 460 S&W and the ergonomics may not suit you as well. There are many factors involved. If one measures the recoil of a 500 S&W four inch (one inch being the shroud), and uses the same load in an 8 3/8 inch barrel. The longer heavier gun could be the one that recoils more. The reason is that although the shorter 4 inch 500 weighs 3.5 pounds and the heavier 8 3/8 inch 500 weighs 4.5 pounds, it however shoots so substantially faster that this entering into the equation shows that the heavier gun doesn't necessarily mitigate the recoil because of the additional recoil generated by the higher speed produced by its longer barrel. In general one loses around 300 feet per second in the shorter barrel. These 300 additional feet of speed in the longer barrel are quite sufficient to negate any recoil taming advantages the heavier gun may offer. The recoil action being different in a shorter barrel than in a longer barrel, those differences may not be felt at times unless they are measured. The Casull is a high performance round approaching the maximum speeds obtained in the 460 S&W. There is very little difference with some loads, more with others. Depending on what you shot, the speed difference may have been minimal in which case the lighter Ruger will definitely recoil more. Lastly, the 460 S&W has a muzzle brake, this alone makes quite a difference.
Normally I also would not shoot a sasquatch from fear of causing an itch and making mad, but this might give him a red welt enough to make him go away. The crypto animals are always the hardest to get the right load for, unlike mortal animals.
I hope you are are kidding and know there is a word called "cryptozoology" which is the definition of undiscovered or believed to exist (by a few) mythical beasts.
I used to live in Alaska,Nobody and I mean nobody I know,would never think of carrying a 10mm.I carried a Ruger(Redhawk)4-inch barrel with Hand Loaded(300-grain)45-Colt.Also have a Super Alaskan Redhawk two and a half inch in 454-Casull .
But but but... The 10mm is better than 44 mag. 😭 Get so sick of hearing fan boys compare 10mm to 44 mag. There is a night and day difference between the 2. It has been proven over and over and over again. That being said. Loved the videos! Finally found a channel that has a clue to what they are talking about. You earned my subscription. Thanks!
I've shot .44 out of a 6 and 3\8 barrel (and loved it). I don't believe I would even attempt out of a 4 inch and definitely not that particular load of ammo. Thanks for takin one for the team Sam!
I have a model 329PD with a 4.25 inch barrel that has been quad ported by Mag-Na-Port and use an X-frame revolver rubber grip on mine. Makes it better to shoot…with ear protection.
As a Redhawk 44 magnum owner since 1984 I can attest to it's power and accuracy. I don't handload hot loads, but know the revolver can handle it. I'm a wheelgun man unless it is a High Standard 22. I doubt I'd want a jammed pistol when a cougar or bear wants to have issues with me. Love the testing on this one. I can only hope it was not beef bologna, but you could still have a sandwich after the 10mm...As my old Dad said "steak with a hole in it is better than no steak at all"
Thanks! I think it was beef bologna, bit I never know. I usually quickly throw 4-6 bologna packs in my shopping cart on my weekly trip, just whatever I find.
i am against double action revolvers, i had a ruger gp100 .357 jam up on me and the cylinder was locked for several minutes, while target shooting. i have never had that kind of issue with my semi-autos.
@@maxtheroofer8004 The only issue I have ever had on a revolver was primers not seated deep enough on hand loads so the cylinder wouldn't turn. I have only shot my 44 on double action a couple times. Each shot raised my impact point a couple feet.
@@maxtheroofer8004 no gun is a sure thing. I once bought a Python from a guy who carried it on duty, then had it hang up - had to stone a small burr where the hand turns the cylinder. That said, I’ve carried a 1911 40+ years but have seen a lot more jams with autos than revolvers. Learning to handload in the mid 1970’s with an auto was educational.🙄
I always take a small wooden dowel that will fit in the chambers to help knock out stuck cases. That will keep you from possibly damaging the extractor lips or rod. Nice video!
In the 70's when I was a teenager I had one of the old Taurus 38 specials and I shot hot Super Vel ammo in it. I had to beat the cases out with a hammer and screw driver. I am surprised I that I didn't blow that gun up.
I like the 44 mag! It has its class and purpose. Wonderful round or I wouldnt own the gun. That lil model 69 is so light its a handful. The 69 I think was catered for ccw. Even still I think my next one will be a 629 with a 3 inch barrel. The extra weight might tame recoil a little? My favorite is my Super Blackhawk with 7 1/2 inch barrel quite a bit of custom work on it. Sweetest trigger I ever felt on a Ruger!
44 mag is a bad cat 🐈 it is still hard to beat for it's size after all these decades this newer ammo just makes it better. Thank you Elmer Keith not bad for a turn of the century cowboy 🤠.
Had a 44 SW Model 29, all original wood grips, in wooden box. A real beauty. I'm 6'6", 260, monster hands, hated shooting that gun. Trigger guard would hit my middle finger. No matter what I did.
I love my 10mm. It's powerful enough to kill anything, plus you can buy ammo that won't overpenetrate. I love my 500 S&W but hate shooting it. I'm usually accurate for about 3 shots, then the flinch takes over about the time I my palm is red and I have a busted blood vessel in my trigger finger. If in the situation of having a charging grizzly I'd like to say that I would be happier with the 500 because I'm thinking that I wouldn't worry about recoil if I were about to die....but at the same time I wouldn't feel under powered with 15, and 1 in the pipe, hot 10mm rounds. It's a scenario that is likely to never happen but I think I'll carry the 500 mag in bear country with my 10mm in a holster for backup. Haha
Use a wooden dowel rod. Some guy had a 475 Linebaugh and used a Philips head screwdriver to push the bullets that would creep forward with recoil and tie up the cylinder back into the case to free up rotation again.
Another awesome video. You looked like you were having a good time with those to calibers. I really wish I was in a position to get you a kkm barrel so you could at least enjoy your 10mm. Lone wolf really should be embarrassed to put out that barrel. Thanks again and as always you make learning fun
Harry Callahan would be thrilled with you!!!!!!! The 44 magnum has always been in a class by itself!!!!!!!! I love the 10mm and carry one for self-defense!!!!! Outstanding test, extremely realistic!!!!!
Yeah, great round/gun. I have shot .44 S&W Russian all the way up to hot magnums. A good 1,000 ft lb difference between loads. Anyone can find something that suits them in there.
I'm a proud 10mm fanboy. Own several. My two favorites are my Fusion Firearms Freedom 1911, M&P 2.0, and my overall favorite is my Witness Match 10mm. I will take 15 rounds of 10mm over 5 or 6 44 mag any day. With that said, I love my 357's, 44's, and especially my two 41 Rem Mags.
I'm looking at 10mm right now. From what I can see reliability with actual full power loads just doesn't exist, especially with the M&P 2.0. What has been your experience?
@@37gdog reliability for me has been 100% as long as you have an unmodified Glock. Add in a shitty lone wolf barrel and the damn thing jammed with lower powered rounds and double tap 180gr HP but even with that shit lone wolf barrel, it wouldn’t jam with the 230 gr cast lead. I now use 220 gr buffalo bores and use the Glock barrel with no issues. Just make sure to clean a lot more than usual to reduce buildup in the barrel. I’ve never had a jam in the two 10mm glocks I’ve owned and have shot many, many rounds through them with the factory barrel.
The Buffalo Bore 44 magnum 265 grain Lehigh solid copper bullet at over 1300 fps is for DEEP and straight penetration on the largest dangerous game. You should have that model 69 Mag-na-port treated and keep a wooden dowel rod to tap the brass out. My model 329PD is ported and I use the 500 S&W magnum sorbethane padded grip too.
A revolver does not have feeding issues! Thats reason one of why I exhanged my Springfield Armory P9 for a S&W 686 .357 6". The second reason: I was shooting wonderful groups with the P9 3" at 50 meters but the P9 had me crawling around on all fours hunting the brass, the gun threw them 5 - 10 meters away. With my 686 I get the brass right in my hand.
Love my model 69 4". Carry it with buffalo bore 300gr hard casts in it everytime I take the family camping or to the zoo. I'll have to look into getting those x frame grips to put on mine as well.
I really love my S&W 629. Pachmeyr grips make it really comfortable to shoot. One day at the range I saw a guy shooting some heavy Buffalo Bore 300gr? .44 Mag and I thought two things: Wow its nice to know my gun should be able to handle that...and I'd never run anything like through my gun! The .44 Mag is very capable!
Really like watching your videos. Especially liked this one about the 44. Awesome cartridge. I’ve had several 44s in the past, both handguns and rifles. My favorite caliber. I use a single action 44 rite now with 71/2 inch barrel. I’ve not tried the ammo you used, but do a lot of reloading. I use the Keith style hardcast semi wadcutter behind his favorite 22 grains of 2400 powder. That load has always performed well out of all the guns I’ve used it in, especially in an older TC super 14 contender. Pure poison on deer. I hope your health gets better, and you make more videos on the great 44.
The thing about a 12ga and a .44mag, is that they have their own unique version of recoil. Both hit hard, and their effect on your body is similar, but the damage they both do to a target/animal/2-legged animal, is just crazy! I wish you could borrow my Rock Island Ultra FS HC. 16+1 of 10mm, out of an all steel 1911 with a 5” barrel! You would love it! Great video as always, and go give that poor 629 some TLC 😁👍🏽
Thanks. I still remember when I took my alloy frame 18" Mossberg and shot a 3" magnum 12 gauge slug though it. I was amazed. I then did the recoil math, and I know it wasn't off. The 9mm pistol I had was like 5 lbs recoil energy, the 30-30 rifle 14 lbs. That 12 gauge slug in my gun was like 34 lbs recoil energy into my shoulder.
Just watched another channel doing "Bear gun" review. It was sloppy, he didn't appologise for "being the worst shot of the major gun channels (!)" and there was nothing to demonstrate the power of the cartridge/pistol combinations. He aptly demonstrated YOUR professionalism in stark contrast. Sorry to hear about your physical challenges and thank you for pushing past them to deliver this outstanding video. I carry a "bear gun" in the face of real potential threats and have a personal stake in having the most capable ammo in my Ruger .44. Thanks again. DOUGout
So good confirmation for my bowhunting sidearm, chose the Glock 29 with a hard cast 220 round. Gives me up to 15 rounds to stop, slow down or generally piss off a big grizzly. Thanks for the demo.
I've shot 44 mag buffalo bore 340 gr hard cast, nice to see the power from the dangerous game ammo. It would be interesting to see how the BB 340 hard cast would compare. Great video
Yeah it would have been interesting to compare the HARDNESS of both. Shooting them through something other than gel. Or better yet, have a lab perform a hardness test on both. Math never lies.
I use the 44 magnum for concealed carry, open carry and home defense. I live on a farm and my closest neighbor is about 1.5 miles away. I used to carry concealed the Glock-19 until both of my daughters took mine for their own self defense and CCW.
Looking at these bullets maybe I will get a box to hand load in my 445 Super Mag. I've loaded Hornady XTP 300gr HP and, if I remember right, were running over 1,400 fps from a Dan Wesson with 8" barrel. It's been so long I'd have to chronograph again to be sure.
Hey Sam I was sad to hear of your viability issues I know very well how it can mess with your head as well(I have ms pretty bad and it only gets worse) so I'm glad you have a hobby that keeps your mind busy and we all get to benefit from your hobby. I hope you are able to keep doing videos or at least keep shooting. That's my main outlets but the primer situation has really messed that up. Keep up the good fight and thanks for your cool videos. Thanks Sam
One of the reasons that handguns like the 44 mag are hard to shoot accurately is you feel like you have to put a death grip on it to keep the thing from burying itself in your forehead. If you can get past that and relax a little you'll discover that you don't have to grip one as hard as you think. But there's no denying that it takes a lot of practice to become proficient with a heavy recoiling handgun. I think that's why the 10 mm has become so popular for bear defense. Misses with a 44 mag don't count for anything. I respect the fact that you didn't edit out the times you missed with the 44. You obviously shoot a lot and that just goes to show how difficult it is to shoot well. I've owned a 4" Smith and Wesson 629 for years. It used to be quite painful to shoot. Then when I turned about 45 years old it just stopped hurting for some reason. I thought the ammo I was buying must have been loaded light but I started handloading and bought a chronograph and discovered that it wasn't the ammo that had changed. I guess I just got accustomed to it. So I bought a ruger Alaskan 454 casull. That handgun will make me develop a flinch if I'm not careful. Keep up the good videos. I enjoy watching them. Liked and subscribed.
587 ft-lb difference between these in the video. With the 10mm being 521 ft-lb, it's a pretty stout semi-auto cartridge for the common man (not talking about 50 AE or some other boutique). But .357 mag can run 750 ft-lb in 4" barrel with the right stuff. It only gets better with longer barrels and slightly lighter (158gr) projectiles.
@@exothermal.sprocket Agreed, I think the 10 mm is popular because it has magazines that hold more ammo, and quick reloads, which I might even choose to carry if I was in bear country.
@@anton1949 Right. And it's penetration is quite good for a pretty manageable (with full sized pistols) cartridge. Of course make sure the heavy magnum stuff for bear medicine actually feeds on the ramp before going into the wild.
Agreed I prefer revolvers and the power of their rounds 10mm is a good round though I'm not knocking it at all but there is no comparison between the 10mm and a 44 mag
@@64samsky Looking into 454 Casull leverguns. Chatting with a guy that's running handloads from his Rossi Puma 454 20". He's achieving around 2900 ft-lb energy. Nuts.
A couple of things regarding the .44 mag. 1. I've heard the S&W .44 mag isn't really designed for these types of high powered rounds. I'd worry it might damage the cylinder with expansion. The Rugers can handle it and I'd argue the big Taurus M44SS, which has a massive cylinder. 2. I have the larger Taurus in .44 mag and don't have nearly the recoil issue with it. I'm not big, 5'8" stocky with average sized hands. I think it's that the big Taurus is heavy AND has a ported barrel. That really helps. If you can get a hold of one, try it out. NOT the Tracker - get the M44SS 4" ported barrel in 6 shot. It should comfortably do everything you ask if it and for a reasonable price point.
@@exothermal.sprocket sounds about right, I have used the Buffalo bore Keith "lower recoil" 255gr out of a sw 329pd 4 inch and got 1000ftlbs. Out of my marlin we were getting 1600+ ftlbs.
Although Buffalo Bore shows the velocity of shots taken in the S&W Mountain gun, the frame is quite frankly on the light side. The issue of stuck cases may very well be the same in any lighter than standard S&W. For this not to happen it takes a heavier top strap and beefier cylinder. The entire frame flexes when a shot is fired. The cylinder chamber that holds the round expands and then contracts. This expansion allows the copper case to expand as well. The chamber returns to its original size while the copper case does not completely return to its original size which is why it needs resizing. The quick action of the cylinder chamber expanding and contracting is what squeezes the cases. The only way to avoid this action with hot loads is with heavier frames that flex less, where the walls of the cylinder are thicker preventing too much expansion of the chamber as well as the case. Although I've shot a model 29 since the mid 1980s, I would only shoot the heavier dangerous game loads produced by both Buffalo Bore and Underwood in heavier framed handguns, such as Ruger, older Dan Wessons 44 magnum, etc...
Happy to say that you inspired me with that steel target. I just invested in some AR500 steel spinning targets for my local outdoor range. Can't wait to make it out there & give em' a shoot! Thanks for the great videos Sam.
I forgot to put my last post, the pros and cons. Me and my friend shot some really powerful Buffalo bore 44 Magnums I was revolver and it took us about 5 minutes to get three of the casings out due to them being so overpressurized. In regards to practical purposes to a 44 magnum versus a 10 mm, I would say let's say in The Great outdoors. If you're not able to reload your 44 Magnum for minutes at a time that's a huge con. Now if you're aiming at one big animal and those six rounds are enough you're going to be okay. If you're up against a pack of wolves or some wild dogs, you're completely screwed. I'd say best idea would be to carry both on you, 10 mm in a holster on your side and perhaps a short barrel 44 Magnum and a pocket or chest holster. Just food for thought
Yeah. 18 hours after filming I was like, haha even with RA this was nothing, dodged a bullet. Wake up next day and regretted it all. It was about 3 days of hand pain after that.
@@samueladams1775 I too, have the same gun. To me, after shooting Taurus, and Smith's, I find it amazing how controllable the Ruger is. However, I do have a 1 1/2x scope on mine, but anyway....the balance is so nice, that it doesn't set you back. You know you have shot a powerful handgun, without all of the "snap".
Nice comparison. 🍎 Apples to 🍊 oranges. .44 magnum has twice the energy and in some cases three times the energy of 10 MM. 10mm is more on par with the venerable .357 magnum.
You need a wooden dowel rod to poke the cases out. Do not hammer the ejector rod as it can bend it out of true. You need to Mag-na-port for recoil mitigation in that Model 69. The X-frame grips help the recoil absorbing somewhat but porting is the real difference.
Those .44s have an astounding amount of power , you probably don't "need a bigger boat " there perfect self defence rounds for Polar Bear or Godzilla . I can honestly say they certainly knocked you about a bit & I think it's the first time I've seen You flinch , and that's "Really Saying Something " Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well .
@@GunSam Given the pressure it was running, it would get you more out of a 16" barrel for sure. Probably a lot more. And it's the perfect nose for a tube magazine.
Those mono rounds are rated at 1195 ft lbs. But, the heavy 44 mag buffalo bore rounds are rated at 1533 ft lbs. That extra 338 is going to really up that penetration potential. Stout recoil though.
I have a very rare (for these days) S&W 460 Magnum with a 2” barrel & one with a 11” plus barrel. Hoot to shoot and a good amount of recoil. I own two 44’s and a 454 as well. The 454 while not as powerful as the 460’s, it’s a much more punishing recoil for some reason. It really just the way the 454 toklat is made that hurts. My 44 anaconda hurts to, but my 44 Blackhawk doesn’t really feel bad at all. The most fun to shoot is actually the 460’s due to how accurate they are
I felt the same thing for recoil when my friend and I shot his 8 3/8" S&W .460 Magnum. We were surprised at how .460 ammo was easy to shoot and .454 was that brutal recoil that you feel with 300 gr .44 Mag.
@@GunSam yes the 460 is a big recoil but different. That 454 puts all of its recoil straight back into your wrist. I don’t enjoy it. I had a super red hawk years ago and it wasn’t as bad as the toklat. The 460 puts the recoil up high like it’s going over your head but doesn’t hurt. I love shooting it except when I have to buy ammo. Both are pricey enough I guess
Yes, I had the gray colored super red hawk in 454 and it did feel way better than the toklat. I should have kept it. It was difficult to remove the hulls but it could have been because of cheap brass. I didn’t try enough other stuff to find out.
Impressive testing Sam. Would love to see more caliber comparison tests using Buffalo Bore ammo. I have found that Buffalo Bore usually makes the hottest factory ammo and is my go to defensive round for my 357 and my little 380.
After doing some load development seeking similar power levels in my 44 mag.... I bought a 480 Ruger. 370gr starting loads are 1500 ft lbs out of my 7.5 SRH and the spent brass falls right out, which is a valid point to consider when you're in bear country and need to reload without hammering the eject rod. It's not unpleasant to shoot and sometimes you just need a bigger hammer for the job.
Good laughs over the 44 mag, since I can relate to shooting a few heavy loads out of my lightweight 329. Absolutely brutal recoil, and probably never again. The failure to extract sure could be a major problem if by chance, however small, you have to reload.
Good Demo . .. high quality demonstration of the brutal power in 44 mag. hot. rounds. I wonder if the 10mm. double stack w/ 16 rounds can take a Brown bear... It can't break skull bones --- I would not Want to even be in Brown Bear Country with out a 12 Gauge Semi auto bull pup or pump with slugs. Need a Sidearm - I like the affordable Rock Island 10mm. 1911. all steel. But Might be better to have the 44 with a manageable load so you could get 4 shots off before breaking something in your hand . 45 colt w/ hot rounds could work for a back up to the 12 Guage. but in a crisis the double action is safer i think.
Hello there, I'm late to the party, but watching what 44 Mag did to your ballistics test brought joy to my heart. I get a kick out of rocking cut tree stump backward.
I hand load 180gr FMJ flat nose bullets for my 10mm that push 1450 ft/s out of my 6in barrel with no signs of over-pressure or accuracy problems. They still hit 1390-1400 out of the stock Glock 20 barrel. I think Buffalo Bore downloaded those rounds for reduced recoil. I suppose the solid copper construction makes them longer for the weight, leaving less room for powder, but it still seems like they could have gotten more power out of them.
I would think in the 629 or 29 the recoil would be a little tamer..... Who am I kidding....that stuff is way hot and you had better hit it with the first shot cuz you might not get another. On the 10mm, that would be a viable option out of a 1911 style or a G20 or 29. Great presentation...Thank you.
You’re a better man than I, as I wouldn’t shoot that .44 magnum load from a 35 ounce revolver. I really think I’d reserve that for a big Ruger single action.
Yeah, I didn't want to do it lol. But I wasn't too hesitant because I know the newest iteration of the model 69 is just as strong big not stronger than a super Redhawk. Plus it's chambers are long like a Ruger for those 340 gr
@@GunSam For sure. Plus that long all copper bullet just has so much resistance going down the bore. Makes recoil all the more jarring. That definitely was the most impressive result I’ve seen on your channel though.
Excellent video. Apologize if this has been covered already. A wide meplat will do more damage than a round nose, due to it displacing tissue, and making a wider, more traumatic wound channel. Respect from Canada Sir
I bet it would be more powerful than that. 1,657 FPS/1,615 FPE is it's 18" rifle rating. Plus if it's a Foster slug, those things are like butter and break up fast, probably penetrating not even half as far as the mono metal.
I was impressed how well the 44 mag did and very disappointed in the penetration of the 10mm. Kinda defeats the purpose of that 190gr round. I think the 10mm will do a lot better in the hard cast lead versions. In any case, dangerous game is less dangerous if you can hit fast, accurate and deep on demand. If a shooter cannot master the recoil then he needs a lighter load or heavier gun or both. The full size 10 mm shines in this environment. So does a full size 44 mag. So does even a mid size 41 mag. I am impressed that your video does not just show the difference in penetration but you demonstrate the hardships of the big blasters and why they are not always the best choice in the field. Though I'll be the first guy to praise the fella who has mastered the big blasters in a field environment... though they are very few.
I tried that exact ammo in my Glock 20. It turned it into the "Jam-O-matic". I have also tried that ammo in my Rock Island 1911 with no issues whatsoever.
I have a Glock 41 Mos and had a jamming problem at the feed ramp with any kinds of ammo I bought. So what I did was Polish the feed ramp and no more problem. I later up grade to a wolf creek barrel (lone wolf) and had the same jamming so I polished the feed ramp on that barrel problem gone.
You found it Sam!!!!! The .88 Magnum in a .44 Mag round. Very devastating round for sure. A black bear will definitely will feel that. Great round. 🎩☯️♠️
