Wolf Tales: Examining the World of Narnia 

Actually, I think The Plague Dogs book had a happier ending than Martin Rosen's adaptation.

I'm so excited to see when you post a video I could watch for hours

Everybody news that the tales of Narnia Is straight up fan fiction Christian fanfiction to be more precise🦁✝️😅

I don't agree that the statement "a product of its time" is invalid. I can see why some people are getting tired of that statement but it applies to this series. This wasn't published during the 2000s so yes, there will be some dated ideologies but that does not mean we should deny that they existed; we simply need to understand the context of when it was written and published.

I believe Death of the Author is a lot more complex. We can always come up with our headcanons and “fix fic” (which, by the way, is great), but I don’t think someone’s work can truly be separated from the person who wrote it. I highly recommend Lindsay Ellis’ videos on the subject.

I have personally heard of these books a lot but never read them. Hearing this review makes me want to never take the time to read them either. Thank you both for sharing and I loved the points made in the video! Also Silver I love the faces inbetween your speaking roles that your character displays especially at 7:58. That face is such a mood! XD

This is the greatest thing i’ve seen

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I know not everyone will like these books but I like these books for me i have learned to sperate the author from the the material

I'm glad that all i had experienced was the movies, i bought them each once released on DVD, i'm staying away from the books personally

Wow, I never realized Narnia was THIS bad, like I knew it had some signs of the time but I didn’t realize it was so bad, I’m glad I only got through The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe and The Horse and his Boy before I got bored and then never went back because it was too preachy (which is ironic because I’m Christian but I feel that’s valid in this case)

You can always make a part 2 for this.... would love to hear more.... I've only seen the 1st movie as both the 2nd & 3rd banned in my area, so I never saw them (either that or saw part of the 2nd one & just don't remember it cus I was like wow this is a really bad movie & have no clue what's going on). Off topic question: Will you make a video with your thoughts on My Pride as a whole now that season 1 is finished?

As someone who merely heard of Narnia here and there, but never read any of the books or watched any of the movies, it's not that hard to acknowledge that some/a lot of famous people were horrible, especially if they're from times when it was the norm. I never knew what Narnia was about, nor what connections it had with Christianity of all things (and also, Narnia was one of the things my religious mother would've banned from the house as something satanic not because of the racist, sexist and homophobic elements, but because of the fantasy elements). You're also the first one addressing the beliefs of the now dead author and how it affects your experience reading the book, which so horribly make sense, I may never end up picking up a book unless it was for research purposes or rewritten, as stories often get. It's easier to separate the work from the author, or rather, practice "death of the author" when the author managed to make a trap to lure children into the author's worldview, especially if said worldview spits on human dignity like that. As someone who used to be homophobic before joining the furry fandom and experiencing that the very people I was taught to treat as "sinners" were probably among the coolest people I've ever met, I know how blind such deadly prejudices can make people. Making me even more regretful that I ever even considered homophobia as something I agreed with. We are still recovering from at least 2000 years of history full of the bad prejudices and injustices endorsed by those in power, especially due to how slowly church and state were separated, and we are yet to see if we can fully recover from it instead of our successors continuing, or doubling the hate. To think that Narnia was a ploy to be used for manipulaion into that mindset is a red flag for me, and I would suggest someone make a completely rewritten version of it. It's a sad fact of life that people with such warped mindsets get to even influence our culture, made even sadder that Harry Potter, the fantasy series a friend of mine said helped people discover thier sexualities and gender identities, is now spitting on those same people. Which isn't much shock for me, who never managed to enjoy Harry Potter in any form, after all, as I said, we are recovering (hopefully) from all the pointless hate we gave our non-cookie cutter fellows. And never forget that Lovecraft was racist, whose work still inspires many to this day, (including the videogame "Quake", which is one of my favorites), and I mean, Lovecraftian influence is everywhere. I recently heard that even Dr. Seuss had a bad racist behind his mask. So yeah... being human kinda sucks. And I say that as someone, who was raised in a christian household (tho the church that defined our household was no ordinary church, much more televangelism neo-pentecostal, if you get what I'm saying), became Christian for a brief period, only to realize my freedom is more valuable than servitude to a church, going from Christian to Agnostic/Deist, to Atheist with a pint of paganism (don't ask), all to the dismay to my mother, who nagged me to go back to that horrible church for years before giving up. What spot religion had in me was replaced by the furry fandom, and even there, I'm a loner-ish. As the guy who went through that transformation, I say, that I am constantly dissapointed by society in so many forms, and a vast majority coming from... who guessed it, the fundamentalists, while having to understand there are good christians out there. I learned more from the very "secular" people and their unchained if not free from drama culture than I learned from any religious source, opening my eyes that I, as well as many more, have been living in the "Matrix" all along. The matrix being metaphorical of the system and beliefs of a society deeply influenced by a religion which tolerated no deviation from the norms it helped set up. If that's what Narnia was meant to aid, I dread how many people let themselves be influenced by it. But there's one thing I like to preach myself: Follow not organised religion, for it is no more than a single person wanting to bend everyone to his will. Instead, explore and discover yourself, and you may see a spirit you'd be willing to live by. No one can teach spiritually to you better than yourself. It's kinda flawed apparently, and maybe not a good idea, but hey, the reason we are here is because organized religion led us here. So why not criticize it and encourage people to break away from it, and if they so want spirituality, explore their own rather than choose from already established templates. A pantheon's power is given to them by their followers, and even that is more abstract, than a physical reality. But then again, I found mine. 3 words: Unity, Duty, Destiny. No homophobic message, or any useless hate, simply encouraging teamwork, accepting that the path of life does end somewhere, and that you shall contribute what you can to your cause. Much better than telling people to live 1 way and forget, or even punish everything else. Also a joke: the very people telling people not to be gay/trans are the very same people who break a vast majority of the rules of the book they claim to liv by, making me question why they are such a powerful presence in society...

ok ok I know this is random but from what I saw of your vids you may like this. It's a game called Wolf Quest you basically play as a wolf in Yellowstone no any magic or anything it's based on real life but still you may like it

BUT HEY THERE GOES MY CHILD HOOD but I learned a lot from this video

To add a bit on how to get ahold of the books, if you're like me and prefer physical copies and have no one who owns the book, go to your local library (if it's open) and borrow a book. This will really help libraries out, as with phones and audiobooks people don't go to them anymore, and with that less funding to keep them open by the government. So maybe borrow a book or 2 and help out a dieing industry /w\

yay ^^ this was fun.. stressfull but fun^^

I love the world of narnia when I was a kid in middle school I remember the books even the Harry Potter Novels 😁

Yo Silver! I got a suggestion for a new topic! Ever heard of Raya and the Last Dragon? It just came out when you made this! When or if you make a video about it, call that video "The Mystical Land of Kumandra"!

Interesting video! I haven't read past the first book (honestly I like the movies way better than what I heard happens in the books) but I had no idea things got /this/ messed up, though there was the obvious sexism in the first book with the whole "thou shalt not partake in battle" surrounding Lucy and Susan. What you fail to bring up around Death of the Author, however, is that it varies per case. C.S Lewis is dead, so at the very least he won't be profiting from it anymore. However, you also brought up the case of Harry Potter. In such a case, her meaning behind her work actively impacts the books still. She's obviously still alive, so doing such a thing as buying her books and then donating to charity still means you're giving her your money. Her shitty attitude towards trans people and of course the racism and antisemitism also shines through in her works, so you can't simply separate her works from her personal views. Actively consuming and participating in her works is still giving her a platform, which is just harmful. I get that this video is about Narnia and not HP, but since you brought it up and you mention Death of the Author I kind of hoped you'd delve a little deeper into different cases.

No the books tell the readers that it feels like it's Christianity but to Christians it is Christianity

I really hope you’ll do a review of the Percy Jackson series! And allow! How did I miss all of that as a kid? Well the series will always hold a place in my heart, I acknowledge that it has flaws in it that I do not agree with. And I’m glad that I didn’t follow in those beliefs and will not follow those beliefs

Question: Silver, why do you have watermelon seed claw feet?

Wow...that alone should be like in the Messed Up Origins

*and the fact that he thinks that kids that grew up without a father or are more connected to there mother will be gay* *Me: ...* *My dad: (to bring the story up short) he went to jail when I was 2 he loses a few years and is almost out he cheats on my mom giving her self support care and self confidence very low and doesn't help with all the drama he uses me for information and he only cares about ME not my family bc I was the only one born when he was around so he kinda ruined my life (also most of my family are homophobic but they dont really bother or point out that it's wrong much)* *Me: a pansexual* *Also me: they can help u* *Also also me: points to the many lesbians that have problems with there mother*

When I was once young me and my older sis would read Narnia we had the all the the books but we don't no more :

20:21 The actual definition of ‘queer’ was ‘strange’ or ‘unusual’ but it started being used as an insult to the LGBT+ community and has recently been reclaimed as a neutral/positive slang word. He was definitely homophobic, but at the time queer just meant odd and had no other connotations. Correction: It was beginning to be popularized as a slang term for gay around that time (Webster’s Dictionary recognized it as a slang term for gay in 1949) but since its formal definition was (and actually still is) odd or strange, paired with the way it’s used in the books, I’m inclined to believe the author meant it in the sense of odd or strange. He was indeed horribly bigoted, and I think it’s great that you dedicated a video to discussing his terrible views, I’m just that this was not one of the reasons.

As a Christian and a person who never read or heard the books at all. I can agree with you that the author is a BS sun of a gun person (also off topic but I kept getting distracted by your nose I have no idea why... sorry)

Thus far I have yet to see LotR on here so...fingers crossed I suppose as I grew up watching those films, and now wanting to read the books. As for my thoughts on Narnia.......I am very mixed on them. On the other hand the world is outstanding, but on one.....well I rather not insult it much but....Religous commintary thy name is narnia. That aside, overall I'm unsure what to think about it.

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I learned what a Terf is... and am now sad

We all joke around take things for granted intill there gone like my old man aka my grandpa

I think a lot of his isues were also of the time as well as the era of the time it’s not an excise but it’s definitely a factor that you should keep in mind as a lot of this is putting all modern views on to classic literature was it right then no but it was the common belief at the time for a lot of people back in the time it was written I still think the book is good to read as long as you know what you are getting into and looking at it subjectively those are my thoughts I’m sorry for the rant and a problem should check out death of a Author as well

I got to tell you something about Aslan from the chronicles of narnia movies and books He is a reincarnation of Jesus Christ

Try the Keeper of the Lost Cities!!

Ayyyy! I’m first again! 😊

Although this is a beloved series & movies from my childhood, I definitely agree with these points! I always hated the racist ways how Lewis treated the Calermen/Telmorine characters like villains except for like, 2? Also Susan’s (undetermined) fate really upset me. There was zero closure??

Hey do you guys think you can cover the warrior cats book franchise there's alot to unpack

The word queer didn't mean gay in the 1950's it just meant strange

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I KNOW WHO LITE IS IN MY PRIDE

Ok this is actually true

If you guys are gonna tackle Lord of the Rings then do it carefully guys, you're gonna ignite outrage from the fans.

To be honest...I’m glad I only saw the movies. Because...WOW, the things you overlook when you’re a child.

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