Women "Pastors" | John MacArthur 

Deborah was a Judge over Israel. A Judge was a pastor, according to scripture.

@@user-iz8np3vv4i They also did what was right in their owns eyes in that time....Not what God called them to do....The book you referenced was Judges......Chapter 17:6 says In those days there was no King in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes. Judges was a history book no a prophetic book...and it's clear that they did whatever they wanted rather than what God wanted...Like appoint a woman to be a Judge.

@@mizzoustud73172309 What is below was taken from my short and free essay on Deborah: THE REASON GOD SENT HER here: ...the Lord was moved to pity... And when the Lord raised up judges for them, the Lord was with the judge and saved them from the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge; for the Lord was moved to pity by their groaning because of those who tormented and oppressed them. -excerpt Judges 2 The sending of a Judge meant God was showing mercy to His people. It wasn't a judgment against them. Since Deborah was a woman, this scripture is sometimes used in error to describe her, in our time: My people! Their oppressors treat them violently, And women rule over them. My people! Those who guide you lead you astray And confuse the direction of your paths. -excerpt Isaiah 3 They are taking the prophetess Deborah and comparing her to Jezebel who murdered prophets. Has it not been reported to my master what I did when Jezebel killed the prophets of the Lord, that I hid a hundred prophets of the Lord... -excerpt 1 Kings 18 When a Judge died, THEN people were led astray. But it came about, when the judge died, that they would turn back and act more corruptly than their fathers, in following other gods to serve them and bow down to them; they did not abandon their practices or their obstinate ways. -excerpt Judges 2 I could have posted more, but the essay can be posted, should you wish a study.

One of God’s judgments at that time was to appoint women over the men because the men had become "worthless." Going back to the fall and Adam and Eve, the man would look to exert unloving authority over the woman, but the woman would desire to rule the man. The Husband is the head of the wife as Christ is head of the church. It's not about value, it's about God's order. The wife can't be the husband and in the church the woman can not lead the man. A man's duty before God is to lead, protect, and teach. Whether over his own family or over a church.

@@bradyoung4921 Deborah's story was taught for about 1000 years before the New Covenant. She was one of the better Judges. Everyone knew she was a pastor, according to the scriptures (which I can post). Everyone knew there was no gender qualification to be a Judge over Israel. Also, Deborah was married.

The Bible is and was clear. However males translated the Bible and diminished the original writing and purposes of women in the Book. Fortunately the younger theologians are not afraid of the true context of the words. I used to believe the lesser role assigned by translators (and pastors that should have known better since they went through seminary) was the truth. God created THEM in His image. The description is not “helper” as in assistant. The word ezer means match or partner, kenegdo means power,strength, lift him up. A woman isn’t less in Gods eyes. She completes a man.

@@deborahgrantham7387 I’m sorry that you’ve bought into the woke agenda that has infiltrated many churches, but you are incorrect. Are women as valuable as men? Yes! Of course. Is God’s design that men and women should serve different roles? Absolutely. The Bible is clear on this issue. Women should not be pastors nor leaders in the church. To say otherwise is to put your wants above God’s word. In as much as the King James Bible, it was translated perfectly. The other modern translation “bibles” have been compromised. In that much you are correct.

@@deborahgrantham7387 Even if Paul meant it as these "scholars" claim; it's God's prerogative to change His mind. Genesis 6:6-7 New King James Version 6 And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.”

​@@deborahgrantham7387 Also Paul did not write 1 Timothy, and "apostle" is a title translators invented by transliterating rather than translating (it would be translated missionary).

@@deborahgrantham7387here we go with more women committing sorcery, contempt, and blasphemy by preaching false gospel. My question is why are modern women so determined to throw away their salvation just to temporarily have their way? Because it makes no sense to read the scripture and then twist and lie about it…you’re condemning yourself and anyone who listens to you. You’re either an all in Christian or you’re not a Christian at all. It’s that simple. And we’re not equal in roles or authority, only equal in value.

Unfortunately, no. Most churches have been infiltrated, and they are false churches. It is what it is, and Jesus even tells us it would be this way.

Leave. Same here, my church allows a women pastor and I just leave today.

Find a new church. One that does not disrespect Jesus bride and follows God's word

You're not wrong. The Bible is clear on this

Jesus approved of a woman to be a Judge over Israel in the Old Covenant, with the authority to judge homicide cases. To believe that Jesus would strongly disapprove of a woman being an elder in the New Covenant, makes no sense whatsoever. This is all Paul. I suggest my short and free essay on Deborah. Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. She was a pastor, according to the scriptures. This is how the Judges are described in Chronicles, by God.

This is one case. One case out of three thousand years of Biblical history.

@@javelinblue5414 God gave a woman the authority to judge homicide cases, and therefore execute men. Paul wrote he was a 'father'. I've got to go with God on this one.

I just got finished roasting a so called woman pastor and her church calling herself an apostle

Christians are definitely NOT called to "roast" others 😐

Ja 1957- God told Adam not to eat from that Tree , man ( Adam) told eve. God told Adam to take authority over every creating thing. ADAM Disobed. Adam did not protect his wife. He blamed God for giving him that woman. What do you have to say now ????

@@shyloh1980 You can spin it any way you want but Paul is clear: Timothy 2:14 (KJV) And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

@@ja1957 Paul never said GOD TOLD HIM, WOMAN HAS NO RIGHTS TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH. that was paul rule.

@@shyloh1980 So you think that he was wrong when he said: "Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression". That was his basis for the comment concerning why women were not to hold positions of authority over men in the church. So we are to believe that you have a better understanding of the things of God than Paul. You are neglecting to accept his explanation of why this is a universal rule for the whole church. That is :Timothy 2:14 (KJV) And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. He is saying that Satan went after Eve for a reason rather than trying to convince Adam. Eve was easily deceived. When Adam saw what his wife had done, he too took the fruit, but not because he had been deceived. I believe he did not want to be left alone in the garden and have Eve expelled, he loved his wife. This is the first example of a man following the leadership of a women in spiritual matters. It did not end well. We call it the fall of man for a reason. No the problem with allowing women to hold positions reserved for men is made clear when you look at the fall in the garden. Men and women are different with different strengths and weaknesses. Satan identified one of those weaknesses in Eve and exploited it to further his war against God. The earlier churches and believers had little difficulty in understanding the universal application of Paul's writings. This has only recently become a controversy among some churches. It is a very dangerous road to follow when we say God's word does not mean what it clearly says. May God open your eyes to the presence of wolves among the sheep.

​@ja1957 you 100% missed what I said !!! Unbelievable !!!

Rick's at the SBC this week trying to push his agenda there

It also excludes Jesus, as well as Paul.

true

Actually, John is either mistaken or trying to swallow the inheritance of the Lord. The inheritance of the tribe of Levi is the Lord. Deuteronomy 18:1-8 New King James Version The Portion of the Priests and Levites 18 “The priests, the Levites-all the tribe of Levi-shall have no part nor inheritance with Israel; they shall eat the offerings of the Lord made by fire, and His portion. 2 Therefore they shall have no inheritance among their brethren; the Lord is their inheritance, as He said to them.

Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel at that time. She used to sit under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in the hill country of Ephraim; and the sons of Israel went up to her for judgment. -excerpt Judges 4 According to Deuteronomy, a Judge could judge homicide cases. According to Deuteronomy, the verdict of a Judge could not be altered.

Let's go now to the church. Leave alone the norms of the Jews.😂

I know where you got that idea. That comes from an interpolation into 1 Corinthians, which says women should cover their heads because the angels and nephilim are attracted to them. The head thing is merely an attempt to explain why that is. Then there's a second interpolation claiming that hair is the covering, giving a stoic explanation which contradicts the Bible (men who took a Nazarite vow were not allowed to cut their hair, and Paul took this oath according to Acts).

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@@c_g_27 my response was for a gentleman who offered 10,000 for anyone who could show that the Bible teaches that there are pastors,I never got any money

I suggest my short and free essay on Deborah. Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. She was a pastor, according to the scriptures. This is how the Judges are described. God ruled Israel through the Judges. A Judge was the most important spiritual leader of that time period according to scripture. When a Judge died the people went back to their sinful ways. To say a woman can be a Judge over Israel, but a woman can't be an elder in a small church, just doesn't make any sense scripturally.

@@td5224 The word "Judge" in the Book of Judges does not translate to modern English. It wasn't a civil position. As it says what happened when a Judge died: But it came about, when the judge died, that they would turn back and act more corruptly than their fathers, in following other gods to serve them and bow down to them; they did not abandon their practices or their obstinate ways. -excerpt Judges 2 A Judge could judge homicide cases. If a man committed the sin of premeditated murder, the Judge was required to give the verdict for execution. This is the ultimate in spiritual authority. Wheresoever I have walked with all Israel, spake I a word to any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to feed my people, saying, Why have ye not built me an house of cedars? -excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 KJV Major modern English translations like the NASB use the phrasing ...whom I commanded to shepherd My people... [PASTOR - Origin: late Middle English: from Anglo-Norman French pastour, from Latin pastor ‘shepherd’.] In all places where I have walked with all Israel, have I spoken a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’ -excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 NASB translation Essay is a 15 minute read and explains all this even more.

​@@user-iz8np3vv4iyou argue with the Author of scripture? Makes sense? Even nature teach man leadership over the woman, and that's a woman's pride-being under her man!

Amen sister. You get it.

@@Taleh_Min 1 Timothy chapter 2 and 3. Read it. You can’t avoid what the Bible says about this issue.

@KarinaStavenes Just Watch John MacArthur Shock Claim: Take the mark of the beast and go to heaven! And, no, you can't get the mark of the beast and still go to heaven.

the catholic church is unbiblical, very pagan

There were no question marks in the original

God doesn't have partiality... Now a days women are only doing greater ministry then men

That's not biblical

being a pastor is not a preacher

This is the purpose of water baptism. When you repent of your sin and accept Lord Jesus as your Saviour, you die to self and God does not leave a dead body lying around, He buries it in water. That is why, Paul calls it a watery grave. You rise up in the newness of Christ plus when you receive Lord Jesus as your Saviour you receive a brand new recreated spirit. That is where the Holy Spirit lives. So your old man is dead and buried. You are a brand new creation

Simple scriptures for simple minds

@@wesleywesley3012 hmm, wrong interpretation

Deborah prophesied to a man, and her words became scripture. She said, “I will certainly go with you; however, the fame shall not be yours on the journey that you are about to take, for the Lord will sell Sisera into the hand of a woman.” -excerpt Judges 4

​@@user-iz8np3vv4iGod can use a woman for certain task at a particular time, but it is normative that God uses women in leadership role over His church. Why do you think there wasn't any female priests in the history of Israel? Core spiritual responsibility over the spiritual house wasn't just any person's role. Think about that. By the way, why query what is just an obvious statement?

@@i-jamesazubuike9208 Since a woman could be a pastor in the Old Covenant, a woman can be a pastor in the New Covenant. Simple really. I suggest my short and free essay on Deborah. Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. She was a pastor, according to the scriptures. This is how the Judges are described in Chronicles, by God. In all places where I have walked with all Israel, have I spoken a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’ -excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 NASB translation A woman could only be given the authority by God to execute a man for his sin, if women are spiritually equal to men. A Judge could judge homicide cases according to Deuteronomy. Therefore Deborah, as a Judge, could execute a man for his sin. A Judge's verdict could not be altered or appealed. A Judge was REQUIRED in scripture to judge only the hardest of cases. Refusal to accept a Judge's verdict on any matter, resulted in execution, according to Deuteronomy. A Judge was cleared to teach from scripture as he/she gave a verdict, according to Deuteronomy. Since in Judges 4, men went to Deborah to be judged, a woman could teach men, even in the Old Covenant in a public setting. If your beliefs can't explain all this, they must be false. This matter is NOT a 'Covenant matter' but a matter of spiritual equality.

How many apostles did Jesus Christ appoint?

I encourage Everyone /holy Men n women of God can PREACH anywhere...

@@visionnayak4308 When you are referring to normal evangelism, then yes. Obviously everyone. The office of Pastor however is reserved for men. As God commands through Paul.

@@Samuelh777 I suggest my short and free essay on Deborah. Reply for it if desired. Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. That is how a woman could judge men of their sins, including homicide. She was a pastor, according to the scriptures. This is how the Judges are described in Chronicles. To say a woman can be a Judge over Israel, but a woman can't be an elder in a small church, just doesn't make any sense scripturally.

@@user-iz8np3vv4i You again. 😅🙈 👇 A woman must quietly receive instruction with all submissiveness. I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet [in the congregation]. For Adam was formed first [by God from the earth], then Eve; and it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman who was led astray and fell into sin. 1 Timothy 2:11‭-‬14

The letters to Timothy and Titus are fake, along with all of those offices. The real Paul as far as I know only spoke of general ministry.

@@td5224 Anna didn't lead crowds in public worship like Miriam did. She didn't prophesy to the Temple leaders like Huldah, because they didn't come to her for advice, as the High Priest did to Huldah. Nor did Anna set up under a tree in her front yard to judge the nation of Israel, as Deborah did. Her prophesying was one-on-one, not as a leader. And you missed what I said of how we can know Paul was telling Timothy to silence one female false teacher. It's in Greek grammar. You see it in the English, but it's acceptable in English. Not in Greek. If I would speak of "women" and then wax eloquent concerning "woman" you would know I'm still talking about women in general. But that's not how it works in Greek. In Greek, switching from a plural "women" to the singular "the woman" means you've stopped talking about women in general. You've started talking about ONE woman in particular. You ask "where does the Bible say" it. It says it in the original Greek. Not in our translation. Because it cannot translate precisely into English.

@@td5224 You can't be serious. You really think that if it can't be said in English, that God didn't say it in GREEK, the language HE chose to have the New Testament written in????

@@td5224 My family comes from Swiss-German background. My Mom didn't speak English until she was 6 years old. And she said some things cannot be said in English. Human languages have limitations. You could research the Greek if you wanted to. And God knew that.

@@td5224 1 Cor 14:38

@@pollyjetix2027keep trying to twist the scripture to fit your narrative. No one is buying it and you will have to answer for it on judgement day.

MacArthur is erroneously misinterpreting text as Paul was speaking to the church in Corinth. But even if it were so as MacArthur says that Paul yadda yadda yadda. It is always God's prerogative to change His mind. Genesis 6:6-7 New King James Version 6 And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.”

Woman can teach men, just not in authoritive leadership in the church. Acts 18 for more info. on woman teaching men

I mean, it has to be defended because it's a big deal right now because our culture has gone insane, and now "scripturally sound" Christians are coming out of the woodwork to support woman pastors.

A Judge was a pastor. Deborah was a Judge. This is in scripture. Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. If anyone really wants a study, I can paste up my essay on Deborah. (Or parts of it.)

1 timothy 2:12

If anything I’ve seen the total opposite. It’s created a jezebel spirit where women resist and try to fight against men and twist scripture to fit their own narrative instead of reading the plain text.

For your information, the catholics will soon start ordaining women preachers. There is synod on Synodality meeting going on. And the final report will surprise you 😂

Jesus is our Sabbath; who's holier than He. You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. John 5:39

@@kaondaroache5751 Do you see anything wrong with Keeping the Sabbath holy? (would I be sinning if I kept it Holy?)

@@cmkislay2133 I've already answered that. (For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath day. Matthew 12:8)

@@kaondaroache5751 👍

she wasn't a pastor, just a servant of God, come on, it's common sense

@@hail2703 who said she was a pastor? She was a woman and helped God's children. These people down women and seem to think they know God's mind and will. Well, what about this scripture...... the women that preach the gospel are a great host.????? You explain why you think men are that great when they drink heavily, commit adultery, fornication, homos, watch porn every night.....,on and on and on. Stop being pharisees. Besides, after the cross there is neither male nor female. Hmmmm. Amazing, absolute silence from all these people who cannot explain the above scripture.

👏very well said !! 👏 AMEN 🙏

Yes. A Judge was a pastor, according to scripture.

GOD never endorsed Deborah. All the other judges, God gave scripture as His endorsement, not Deborah. God allows some things, but doesn't always endorse it. He allowed Isreal to be slaves as punishment, but it was not His desire fir this.

@@kena3537 you wrote: GOD never endorsed Deborah. Of course He did. Then the Lord raised up judges who saved them from the hands of those who plundered them. -excerpt Judges 2 So God subdued Jabin the king of Canaan on that day before the sons of Israel. -excerpt Judges 4 Describing the results of the battle that Deborah ordered.

@@kena3537 Deborah even prophesied, by the Holy Spirit, how the enemy commander would die. Her words of prophecy actually became scripture. She said, “I will certainly go with you; however, the fame shall not be yours on the journey that you are about to take, for the Lord will sell Sisera into the hand of a woman.”

@@kena3537you idiot. If God didn’t raise up Deborah why would he help her

YOU ARE IN ERROR...THIS SCRIPTURE IN NO WAY DECLARES PAUL A FALSE PROPHET!!! BEWARE YOU DO NOT LISTEN TO SATAN..." THE FATHER OF LIES" 🙏🙏🙏

There's no such thing as an apostle. It's a word translators made up by transliterating instead of translating. Translating it would yield missionary. Acts is also of dubious authenticity, and in any case twelve were nominated for one specific task: making sure that all the tribes of Israel were reached. One missionary per tribe.

Paul has his own opinion for u to choose from , in other words who do you wish to agree Jesus or Paul ???

You are not the authority on what to believe. God’s Word is.

The Adventist Church was founded by a false prophet. Yes, they do follow God's word on the matter of the Sabbath, yet they ignore other teachings that are extremely clear in the Scripture.

Those women were not pastors.

Truth hurts your feelings?

it's what the Word of God that matters, and Pastor Macarthur upheld its authority

@hail2703 Mccarthur does Not hold up God's word. He believe the Holy Spirit can Not speek through a woman. According to Mccarthur much of the new testament not for today. And God does not talk to us anymore lol He needs the baptism in the Holy Spirit, to open up his spirual blind eyes.

@@shyloh1980 that's a LIE

@@shyloh1980 Bearing false witness is very serious, but i am humble enough to know I am open to seeing if you have any evidence of this, otherwise, be careful

@hail2703 you Obviously do not know the word of God yourself. IN his messages HE tells what he believes and dont believe. His Audience ask him questions he gives them answers . So you need Q-tips in order to Hear.

If you’re a Christian you should be a member of a local church. “And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.” ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭10‬:‭24‬-‭25‬ ‭ESV‬‬ And if you are a Christian you should love Christ’s church. For Christ is the head and the church is his body. “And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent.” ‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1‬:‭18‬ ‭ESV‬‬ Lone star Christians are unfathomable in the light of Scripture. You need to get in healthy/mature Christian community ASAP.

@@elkellenhabla Matthew 18:20-22 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. The church is not a building, it's His people. Jesus is God. Jesus is Son, Father, and Holy Spirit. Jesus is Lord. God is Lord. And oh yeah, the Spirit is Lord. 2 Corinthians 3:17 New King James Version 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. AND, THE SPIRIT DWELLS WELL IN ME, and I am free. Philippians 2:11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. I have a tongue...JESUS CHRIST IS LORD and HE'S AWESOME. Cheers

@@elkellenhabla DON'T IDLE; READ YOUR BIBLE.

@@Diana-xm1dm God has appointed leaders in his church (elders). You should be a part of a local church. Who does Jesus speak to in Revelation? Churches. You should find one. No lone star Christians.

@@elkellenhabla Colossians 2:16 Expanded Bible Don’t Follow People’s Rules 16 So do not let anyone ·make rules for [or criticize; judge; or condemn] you about eating and drinking or about a religious ·feast [festival], a New Moon Festival [2 Kin. 4:23; Neh. 10:33], or a Sabbath day [C religious observances that false teachers pressured the Colossians to keep]. I told you am free, you can hold on to your traditions...God/Jesus/Holy Spirit is talking to me.

I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon...

1 there are no women are not to speak in church h 1 Corinthians ch 33-37. It is a command . And it is disgraceful.

We shouldn't be upholding such distinctions which are to be absolished.

@@crystalvulpine2314 There are no distinctions between Men/Males and Women/Females when it comes to Eternal SALVATION ... But God set distinctions between Man and Woman when it comes to doing God's WILL (Prerogatives)... Biblically speaking... Amen...

@@jvlp2046 Jesus said we will be like the angels, neither marrying nor giving in marriage. That should put to rest any notion of some divine design for gender or the family. Those are worldly things no matter how much you idolize them.

@@crystalvulpine2314 Take note: ...We will be "LIKE" Angels, but that does not mean that we become Angels or equal with Angels... The English word "LIKE" means SIMILARITIES only... Angels are Spiritual Beings with Special/Mighty Powers coming from God greater than Human beings... while Human beings have a Body and Soul/Spirit with no special/mighty power... when Judgment day comes, all human beings dead or alive will be given back or be transformed their mortal bodies into immortal (resurrected) bodies to face the judgment and condemnation of God... If we are saved during the judgment day, we will receive some SIMILARITIES or LIKENESS with the Angels such as, no longer facing death (death has been conquered), Time no longer affecting us to grow old, never getting sick, not getting hungry, nor thirsty, no more pain, and no more desire for a sexual relationship or married life and no more procreation... but we still have big differences from the Angels... Resurrected Humans have Immortal Bodies/Souls without powers... while Angels still remain as Spirit Beings with Power and Might coming from God... Glorified Human beings can not change their Immortal Bodies given to them by God... whatever body God gave us, would be permanent, we can not choose or replace them... While the Angels have the power to change their appearances since they are Spiritual Beings with Power and Might that come from God... if you are born a black race, your resurrected body will also be black, the same with the white, brown race, etc... The only difference is if you are born black with disabilities or defects, your resurrected body will be perfect (immortal) but you will still remain black... In Heaven, there will be all Nations with all Kinds of Races and Ethnicities (Black, White, Brown, Yellow, and Red) worshiping and praising God eternally... Satan and his Fallen Angels will be stripped off/removed by God with their Power and Might and be thrown into the Eternal Damnation of Hell (Eternal Punishment/ Torment) together with the Condemned Evil Human beings on Judgment Day... Facts and Truth, Biblically speaking... Praise be to God in Christ... Amen...

​@@jvlp2046 This is ridiculous. The fact that there is no marriage and procreation renders gender differences pointless. Also possessing a body is a punishment, no God will not force you into a new one and strip all your powers. The Bible says we are all sons of God, call me a heretic but it does, and I will not pretend otherwise just to appease some religious fragilities. Those who can't accept that are too attached to the ways of this age. The fact is, you don't have to worry about being cast into Hell; we're already there. Recall the way nature works (pure evil), and who rules over this realm, and where the fallen angels were cast down to. If you don't want to be trapped here forever I suggest taking the gift and renouncing this world. Reincarnation *is* real and it is *not* a good thing, it's what happens to the unsaved who face judgement and have to be punished for their deeds. And beware of light tunnels supposedly leading you to heaven, they are *fake* and your supposed loved ones and "Jesus" and "God" inside are really demons disguised as them, as you acknowledged they can do.

God will have the last say my friend 🙏✝️

Really !!?? Disregard the infallible authoritative Word of God to do what you want? Self deception is a serious disease in the church.😢

I'm sorry you are wrong

@@peeba7921 I suggest my short and free essay on Deborah. Reply for it if desired. Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. That is how a woman could judge men of their sins, including homicide. She was a pastor, according to the scriptures. This is how the Judges are described in Chronicles. To say a woman can be a Judge over Israel, but a woman can't be an elder in a small church, just doesn't make any sense scripturally.

@@user-iz8np3vv4i If you can show me any scriptures in the bible I'm ok with that but as far I know there's none and there's no part in the bible that says men and woman are equal even Paul said remember the order its God,Christ,men and woman that's what the bible says

@@peeba7921 Essay on Deborah, the Judge and prophetess. (Revised May 2023) Before Paul we have her story. We don't know what Paul would have said about her. We have to read about her first and then try to understand Paul (if possible). This is what the people at the beginning of Christianity had to do. They knew the story of Deborah already. Deborah is either a meaningless exception or an important precedent, in the debate of whether men and women are spiritually equal. Before beginning, it should be noted that there is no scripture stating clearly or even hinting at, that Deborah was God's second choice. There was no man that rejected the call to be Judge, requiring a woman to take that place. ************************************************************* INTRODUCTION: Before God was rejected by Israel for the rulership of men, that is, kings, there were different 'seasons' so to speak. One of those seasons was the time of the Judges. ...but they have rejected Me from being King over them. Then all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah; and they said to him, “Behold, you have grown old, and your sons do not walk in your ways. Now appoint us a king to judge us like all the nations.” But the matter was displeasing in the sight of Samuel when they said, “Give us a king to judge us.” And Samuel prayed to the Lord. And the Lord said to Samuel, “Listen to the voice of the people regarding all that they say to you, because they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me from being King over them. Like all the deeds which they have done since the day that I brought them up from Egypt even to this day-in that they have abandoned Me and served other gods-so they are doing to you as well. -excerpt 1 Samuel 8 A Judge at this time, was VERY different from a judge in our time. The Judge was over the nation of Israel. But not as a man, as King, or as a woman, as Queen, because God was not rejected as King as yet. God ruled Israel through the Judges. Wheresoever I have walked with all Israel, spake I a word to any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to feed my people, saying, Why have ye not built me an house of cedars? -excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 KJV Major modern English translations like the NASB use the phrasing ...whom I commanded to shepherd My people... [PASTOR - Origin: late Middle English: from Anglo-Norman French pastour, from Latin pastor ‘shepherd’.] In all places where I have walked with all Israel, have I spoken a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’ -excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 NASB translation Also: Also I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be moved no more; neither shall the children of wickedness waste them any more, as at the beginning, and since the time that I commanded judges to be over my people Israel. -excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verses 9 and 10 KJV -God speaking to Nathan the prophet Finally: All the Judges were men, except one. Deborah. She was married, but her husband was not a Judge. HER JUDGING AUTHORITY here: Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel at that time. She used to sit under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in the hill country of Ephraim; and the sons of Israel went up to her for judgment. -excerpt Judges 4 Deborah judged men and had the authority to execute, as some sins in the Old Covenant, such as murder, demanded the death penalty as the punishment. There was no appeal to Deborah's (a Judge's) verdict: ... you shall not turn aside from the word which they declare to you, to the right or the left. If a man rejected Deborah's decision, the penalty was execution: But the person who acts insolently by not listening to the priest who stands there to serve the Lord your God, nor to the judge, that person shall die;... She used the Law, therefore scripture, when judging and instructing: In accordance with the terms of the law about which they instruct you... She had the same authority as a Levitical priest: So you shall come to the Levitical priests or the judge... Also of note, she judged the hardest cases in the nation. “If a case is too difficult for you to decide, between one kind of homicide or another, between one kind of lawsuit or another, and between one kind of assault or another, that are cases of dispute in your courts, then you shall arise and go up to the place which the Lord your God chooses. So you shall come to the Levitical priests or the judge who is in office in those days, and you shall inquire of them and they will declare to you the verdict. Then you shall act in accordance with the terms of the verdict which they declare to you from that place which the Lord chooses; and you shall be careful to act in accordance with everything that they instruct you to do. In accordance with the terms of the law about which they instruct you, and in accordance with the verdict which they tell you, you shall act; you shall not turn aside from the word which they declare to you, to the right or the left. But the person who acts insolently by not listening to the priest who stands there to serve the Lord your God, nor to the judge, that person shall die; so you shall eliminate the evil from Israel. -excerpt Deuteronomy 17 ******************************** THE REASON GOD SENT HER here: ...the Lord was moved to pity... And when the Lord raised up judges for them, the Lord was with the judge and saved them from the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge; for the Lord was moved to pity by their groaning because of those who tormented and oppressed them. -excerpt Judges 2 The sending of a Judge meant God was showing mercy to His people. It wasn't a judgment against them. Since Deborah was a woman, this scripture is sometimes used in error to describe her, in our time: My people! Their oppressors treat them violently, And women rule over them. My people! Those who guide you lead you astray And confuse the direction of your paths. -excerpt Isaiah 3 They are taking the prophetess Deborah and comparing her to Jezebel who murdered prophets. Has it not been reported to my master what I did when Jezebel killed the prophets of the Lord, that I hid a hundred prophets of the Lord... -excerpt 1 Kings 18 When a Judge died, THEN people were led astray. But it came about, when the judge died, that they would turn back and act more corruptly than their fathers, in following other gods to serve them and bow down to them; they did not abandon their practices or their obstinate ways. -excerpt Judges 2 THE AUTHORITY SHE HAD OVER THE COMMANDER OF THE ARMY here: Now she sent word and summoned Barak... She gave the order for the battle to begin that Israel won. Then Deborah said to Barak, “Arise! For this is the day on which the Lord has handed Sisera over to you... Before the battle began she prophesied that a woman would kill Sisera (the enemy commander). This happened, as Jael, a woman not part of the battle, killed Sisera. She said, “I will certainly go with you; however, the fame shall not be yours on the journey that you are about to take, for the Lord will sell Sisera into the hand of a woman.” And: But Jael, Heber’s wife, took a tent peg and a hammer in her hand, and went secretly to him and drove the peg into his temple, and it went through into the ground; for he was sound asleep and exhausted. So he died. And behold, while Barak was pursuing Sisera, Jael came out to meet him and said to him, “Come, and I will show you the man whom you are seeking.” So he entered with her, and behold, Sisera was lying dead with the tent peg in his temple. So what were the results of this battle? And the Lord routed Sisera and all his chariots and all his army with the edge of the sword before Barak; and Sisera got down from his chariot and fled on foot. But Barak pursued the chariots and the army as far as Harosheth-hagoyim, and all the army of Sisera fell by the edge of the sword; not even one was left. Also: So God subdued Jabin the king of Canaan on that day before the sons of Israel. And the hand of the sons of Israel pressed harder and harder upon Jabin the king of Canaan, until they had eliminated Jabin the king of Canaan. -excerpts Judges 4 In Judges 5, most of the chapter is Deborah and Barak singing praises to God. The song lyrics are there. Final sentence of Judges 5: And the land was at rest for forty years. Obviously a great outcome. EXPLANATION OF GOD USING DEBORAH here: Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth... Prophets and prophetesses are anointed with the Holy Spirit as we know. The explanation of God using Deborah to judge men and being over the army is here: An anointing of the Holy Spirit is the anointing of a powerful masculine being. That anointing eclipses gender. FINAL THOUGHTS here: A woman anointed with the Holy Spirit can serve in any capacity in our time. Whatever valid title/position there is. To oppose this, is to oppose the Holy Spirit. The same Holy Spirit that was upon Deborah the prophetess and Judge. Deborah, the woman that "saved them from the hand of their enemies" by God's will.

@@user-iz8np3vv4i remember Deborah was a exception that wasn't a normal thing in Israel