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Workaround for Sony a7IV Full Frame 4k60? 

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New video where I tested the specifics of this. Unfortunately, the a7iv is upscaling a 1080 signal to output to 4k, not sending a true 4k signal for recording.
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Is this a hack or workaround to record full-frame 4k60 from the Sony a7IV?
By setting the camera to 1080p 60fps but setting output resolution under HDMI Output Settings to 4k, it appears the camera will output a 4k signal but keep the full-frame fov.

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@TheThaiLife
@TheThaiLife 2 года назад
I found you through Gerald undone‘s response video. But, really good observations and nice try with this. This definitely could’ve worked out. Regardless, subscribed. Thanks for your work and please keep experimenting. Very cool stuff.
@matthewremington
@matthewremington 2 года назад
Just because it's outputting on HDMI at 60fps, doesn't mean it's reading the sensor at 60fps. I believe that is where the bandwidth limitation is. You'd have to roll a ball across the frame or some other movement to see if there is actually 60 unique frames per second.
@chphotovideo
@chphotovideo 2 года назад
Matthew. There are indeed 60 individual frames. I did do a test on this by rolling a roll of tape across in front. Filmed each way true 4k60 and 1080/60 output at 4k. Dropped into a 60p timeline and each clip had 60 individual frame (no duplicate frames). Looks like it was reaching the sensor at 60fps BUT probably upscaling the 1080 to 4k not true 4k output.
@muen1842
@muen1842 2 года назад
I wonder if the footage is being upscaled in camera. So 1080p sensor readout is being upscaled to 4K through this process. Have no idea whether it could be good image quality- but certainly one of the great finds of the century. Extremely impressive discovery- would you so kindly test the footage for us? Confirming whether it’s truly 4k60 p full frame, compared to maybe the crop 4k60 and the a7siii 4k60? This could make the átomos ninja V a worthy upgrade. Perhaps Sony wants to make a paid upgrade to do this in the future- 4K 60 full frame to external recorder :0
@chinitopinoy1726
@chinitopinoy1726 2 года назад
Why was my original comment deleted? A test has been done by Iphonedo with GeraldUndone and they confirmed its upscaled 1080P 60 to 4K.
@chphotovideo
@chphotovideo 2 года назад
@Chinito I got the notice of your comment but when I came to reply it was gone. I thought you deleted your comment. Crazy YT. I actually messaged Gerald about this potential workaround to see if he had any info on it, so it was cool to see him and Iphonedo make a video. I'm working on my own video which confirms what they said. It does look to be upscaling 1080 to the ninja not actually sending a true 4k signal. Thanks for popping by and leaving a comment :)
@chinitopinoy1726
@chinitopinoy1726 2 года назад
@@chphotovideo okay, sorry I really appreciate your test. Thanks for experimenting. : )
@Z3tacola
@Z3tacola 2 года назад
we tested it's 1080p60 zoom into 4k60, fake 4k
@muen1842
@muen1842 2 года назад
Oh, and rolling shutter should indicate what part of that sensor is being used.
@hellopsp180
@hellopsp180 Год назад
Sad :( its actually 1080p upscaled and not TRUE 4k but its nice to know
@HANKBRAVO81
@HANKBRAVO81 2 года назад
So you would need the external monitor to do so?
@TVPALOTINA
@TVPALOTINA 2 года назад
what is the camera's crop factor when shooting at 4k60fps?
@Monsieur.O
@Monsieur.O 2 года назад
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@jcml2015
@jcml2015 2 года назад
Hello, how are you ? help please, it's my first sony, I bought it two weeks ago at best buy and today I went to connect it to my ninja 5 and the HDMI is loose, so the image goes back and forth on the ninja 5, it's like cutting the signal and I'm using a good hmdi cable, on your camera the hdmi connector is also a little loose?
@SDW2000
@SDW2000 2 года назад
I'm trying to understand why the Ninja V Source Signal always shows UHD59.94 and not the frame rate in camera. Atomos told me that as of May 18 2022, the A7iv is still not of their list of compatible cameras and that it has not been tested by them. But what difference if any does this actually make to the footage recorded. Eg. If I record 4k 24p in camera, it records at 59.94 on the Ninja. Does this impact the quality of the Ninja files and how they can be edited? Confusing....
@chphotovideo
@chphotovideo 2 года назад
If you set the 'HDMI Output Setting' resolution to auto, then it defaults to UHD59.94. If you set the resolution to 1080 or 4k specifically then the ninja will reflect the frame rate you have set on camera. I've always had issues w/ 'auto' resolution set on my sony cameras while using a ninja. I'm not sure how dual recording internal and external to two different frame rates works out, I avoid doing that.
@bryangarciafilms
@bryangarciafilms 2 года назад
wow. that must mean that the camera is capable of outputting 4k60 but they crippled it on purpose? or maybe they will do a software update to allow 4k60 FF
@bigzeromike
@bigzeromike 2 года назад
Everyone knows they did.
@chphotovideo
@chphotovideo 2 года назад
Apparently there is some research on the millisecond readout time of this sensor and the processor couldn't actually do a 4k60 readout. So I don't think there can be a firmware update to change it. *snaps fingers** so close!
@kifley19
@kifley19 2 года назад
I don't have an external recorder to try this out. Regardless, Sony crippled this camera. Shame on them.
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