@@Gretabpooh sometimes, but sometimes they are a friend group that will immediately notice if someone is missing. That's why I don't like generalistic statements like OC, there are good work environments out there. More often in smaller companies/communities.
I agree. a friend of mine worked many years in elder care homes and she said you won't believe how many people die sitting on the toilet. We try to make funerals reverent but actual death really isn't.
You know your job is not important when you can be dead for four days and no one notices. If I show up 30 minutes late to work, the entire crew can’t work for the day.
It's probably cleaned weekly. That's not unreasonable. I'm also not surprised that a huge company doesn't have a policy to check if their workers are dead. What's sad is that she apparently had no friends or collegues that cared enough for her to notice that she was missing, or notice that she was dead if they walked past. That's not really on the company though.
They keep us so busy that no one has time to care about anyone. If we text someone to check in and they don’t respond we all assume they’re busy because everyone is. So much is going on economically and personally it’s hard to manage. For all I know a few of my friends could be dead.
I thought so too. How sad. I am fairly much a loner, myself, at 68 so this got me thinking..... far out. She was only 60 and nearing retirement still at it bright and early.... 🎉😢🎉
@@wms72 I'm one by design. I wouldn't have it any other way. If I die alone, it may be considered sad by some, but it's a good tradeoff compared to having to put up with other people's s#/t.
And once again Wells Fargo is in the news. As a former employee I am honestly not surprised. I’ll never forget what happened years ago and the CEO gave himself a significant raise in millions and then resigned with a hefty compensation package. Yet the aftermath was not televised. A lot of these major companies need to be investigated and brought to light.
We had a case in my town where a public works official fell into the river and drowned. They posted the job a week after he went missing. They didn't find the body for two weeks.
A reminder for us all to not get to tied up in employment , especially in the corporate world. We were identified by the last four of our social security numbers. When 3221 falls out dead his replacement pushes his body out of the way and it's back to work everyone,
The fact that employees are afraid to speak publicly out of fear of loosing their job when a person died there and wasn’t found for 4 days. Wells Fargo needs investigated.
WF is notorious for robbing 10's of millions out of $billions for years at the request of highest management down to the lowest level. No one went to jail. No victim was compensated. The govt. collected the fine, after years in the courts. It worked for them and the govt. Us? Not so much. Welcome to "the corporate/govt. conspiracy". Still vote? SUCKER!
@@proudamerican2133thank you for your help. I would never have understood what she was saying without it. ... Or maybe she meant to put investigating instead of investigated🤔
Not choosing to show even a photograph of the dead person, while needlessly exposing Wells Fargo's building is not fair to business and the reputation of the age old corporation. 👎👎
Or racked up all of that overtime, exceeded her authorized access hours in the building and likely network without logging off, etc. That's boardroom level, literally, lack of due care and due diligence to every damned layer and level of security for the business, customer data and corporate data security, from physical security for the facility to access to critical systems. All are now in question, per federal law. Laws that send CEO's to prison level laws. Sarbanes Oxley audit now. Proceed from there with full security audits from top to bottom, corporate wide.
She was seven years away from retirement. I cannot imagine being one of these people who dies at my desk. This is corporate America, folks, they don’t care about you.
Seven years? WOW. I retired early, and even then I couldn't wait! She would have had to work till almost 70? The Robber Barons are back and in full charge.
@@vincer7824 I knew we were all screwed when they started classifying employees as “resources.” Great. Now you're the same as a desk, chair or that old Selectric typewriter.
so it's true that corporate America is modern day slavery. To the employers, you're just an expendable resource, so long as they get to line pockets with money they don't give a damn. One day you're fine, the next day you're tossed out like garbage.. A very sad state of affairs, that is.
@MAC-vi7fy Social Security is about to become worthless. In about 40 years, there isn't going to be enough of the working class to support seniors through social security.
I had this thought, too. She must have lived alone and had no plans that weekend, so no one went looking for her. Point 2: Whomever handles payroll likely made a manual adjustment without consulting the lady's supervisor to ask why she'd never clocked out, which should have flagged the supervisor to try to make contact. Point 3: Societally, we have reached the point where we seldom know the person sitting next to us, let alone our neighbors. Lastly, the news focused on the 'excessive' number of days, but in reality, it was a weekend, in a post-pandemic, work-from-home business model.
@@KhadersheriffMaybe she doesn’t live with family. I live with roommates and they disappear sometimes but I just assume they are out of town or vacation. We just mind our business. Or lives alone too
That poor woman. Dead for 4 days and NOBODY said boo. So she probably doesn't have anyone at home, no one at work cares. This woman deserves more of a legacy than, "the woman who was dead at work for 4 days."
I agree! Like it’s bad enough that non of her coworkers knew she was missing! But for her own family or friends to not know is just another level of disturbing
The news only pushes stuff that people tell them to. That’s why i’ll get a detailed life story of someone who died unexpectedly in my feed but someone who was dead in a cubicle for 4 days is just “woman”.
The fact that Wellsfargo can "NOTICE" a slightly odd dollar bill in a stack of 200 instantly with no problem at all, But took them 4days to "NOTICE" a whole dead person lying there deceased in their office is crazy work!!! smh🤦🤦🤦I guess if it aint about the money, then it aint about nothing right??? smh🤦🤦🤦🤷🤷🤷💯💯💯
I had the experience, and probably never forget the sweetish, nauseating, and possibly putrid smell. It's a very specific smell, very different from faulty plumbing or sewage gas.
No cameras, No Custodian, No Security Guards, No Management, No Co Workers noticed her for four days!. This is absolutely horrible. To die at your work with no one even talking to you or looking for you.
I used to clean offices at night and we went to every cubicle to change the trash, wipe off the desks, etc. It’s shocking that no one was there to even clean for 4 days.
Imagine companies force you to work from 6am to 9pm, 7 days a week, in 110° summer heat and 90% humidity, complete with 2 layer clothing with BLACK work uniform as the outermost layer...
@@FigsOfFury People need to start seeing that PEOPLE work with PEOPLE. Those are not automated ghosts floating around her, those were PEOPLE. Geesh, it's like people don't know that people work with people for....not work with companies for people.
Same how I feel with these companies putting out the scripted "Oh we don't condone these actions" messages when they're only doing it to cover up their apathy and greed
My friend, a trained social worker, once was hired by WF to man a hot-line for employees who were depressed and at times suicidal. She said it was terribly stressful.
As a former Wells Fargo employee, this comes as no surprise. Pretty on point with Wells Fargo’s track record of giving zero F’s about their employees. 😅
This accident is the result of people still insisting on working from home so they can watch their favorite TV show and scan social media. If everyone was at the office as they should be this would have never happened
Dont you buzz in and out? Because on a daily basis it would have shown that she was still in the building! So how do you count people in and out in a fire?
Only way I could understand why nobody noticed is if she had a private office and had the door shut but to be in a open cubicle for that long is insane
@carladavis8102 seems like this is the new way of the world. People don't follow any kind of moral structures because religion is foolish and superstitious to them so they wind up treating other people as if they don't matter
They should have just quoted her and said "they" instead of "her." I imagine it can be narrowed down with the voice recording as well. A pretty poor job of protecting the source.
There are two obvious things I now know about Wellsfargo working conditions. 1. Management does not micromanage. 3. Housekeeping does not take out garbage daily.
Exactly! The first thing I thought about was housekeeping, too. I was a cube rat for years, and I can't imagine a place being so sparsely inhabited that nobody at least looked at her trash.
For a few hours or even a shift, it could be understandable, someone might be working on an important project. Days on end, there are two critical concepts that are mandatory in the financial sector, due care and due diligence, both are entirely absent from the highest level of corporate to that section of that office. I live in a rather inexpensive apartment building, we have better security. Access tags that log entry, which is audited. Cameras that recordings are checked very regularly, evictions for violations of security have occurred here. Locks work and are checked and replaced when defective. And that's with a management staff of one. I'd reported someone messing with the payment drop box, the manager mentioned that she'd noticed that I was speaking with the individual and I related that I'd explained to him that he was trying to open a secure payment box in full view of multiple security cameras. He now lives in another abode, prohibited from access to the building. That's due care and due diligence. Something utterly absent, despite being required by federal law in that financial office.
What makes this sad is that not only was this woman unnoticed at work for 4 days, but obviously she had no one outside of work. No family or friends who noticed that she never came home or anything. This woman must have been so extremely lonely. 😢
Sad if she was lonely but she may also have been very introverted with similar friends. I don’t have regular daily contact with the same people and have often thought it might be days before enough people tried to contact me for them to realize something is wrong, especially as I work at home. Though I would hope it would be easier at a big workplace for even strangers to find me!
I see it all the time. Everyone lives in their own little bubble. In some countries, everyone goes from person to person and says hello to them when they start their shift. No one see other people. They just see their friends and families. It is happening all over this country. The last 10 years has taken a toll on American humanity.
Maybe, maybe not. Honestly if I died in my apartment no one would notice until I started to stink up the place by decomposing. Work would assume I no call no showed and quit. I’m single and live alone. I wouldn’t say I’m lonely though. I find peace in solitude.
If if they didn't care about the person how did she not do any work for 4 days and nobody noticed. Can't be that bad of work environment if most of them work from home and you can get away with doing nothing for 4 days.
Having watched others get scammed by Wells Fargo, this is also totally believable. Wells Fargo is the “IT support person” who calls you and tells you to send them $1,000 in Apple gift cards. They are the Nigerian prince that emails you and tells you to send them your banking information. Voluntarily choosing to do business with Wells Fargo is equivalent to bending over, pulling down your pants and telling them to “get it over with”.
I@@TetrahedronIX her supervisor will be fired pretty quickly for sure . How can you not know someone you manage came to wk.. stopped producing actual wk and then was mia day after day? And security. An abandoned car . For days ... In your lot. 24/7.
@@elprzemo666I came here to say that exact thing. 4 days of literally doing nothing? I bet her family demands they pay the 4 days pay... the only reason they found her is because the smell? Lol Jesus christ
@@jb6712 it's a major Sarbanes Oxley Act violation, as they've literally zero access control security on their access control systems. They now should, by federal law, have to have a full Sarbanes Oxley audit, which can quite literally put a CEO in prison, should certain irregularities be present and I'm damned sure that there are. Did information security for a living, this is beyond a big deal legally. Someone dying at their desk can and does happen, should be noticed when that person doesn't leave work that day after their hours have been put in, as access to facility and resources is supposed to be logged. That's both for employee welfare and information systems security reasons. With this level of non-security, I'd not trust a dog in their building that I don't like, let alone finances and family.
😭😔it hurts to the soul just to know how a human life can just be easily not noticeable by people that you work shoulder to shoulder around more then your at home.
Nothing like this video, but when my co worker died, leadership sent out a 1 sentence email "(co worker) has passed away. we are deeply remorseful." Then they deleted all of his accounts and moved on with life.
I work at a five star hotel or thats what they say about themselves and I dont think ANYONE feels valued behind the seens I work contract and watch the working of the hotel and its horrible Everyday I here someone say they can't stand it anymore
Just curious, if you see and hear these things behind the scenes every day isn’t there any way to anonymously bring up the issues to human resources or someone in corporate? Perhaps something can be done to improve employee morale. I’m just thinking out loud. I’m sorry you’re in that situation and wish you the best.
My friend’s sister passed at work. The workplace didn’t notice. The family called when they hadn’t heard from her for a day and they found her. It’s beyond tragic, and that one could go nearly a full work-week without anyone noticing says everything about the environment we live in.
"We are deeply saddened by the tragic loss of our employee," Couldn't have been that saddened, you didn't know she was dead for four days, and your other employees won't speak on camera out of fear of termination of your handling of this mess.
Maybe the employee played a major part in no one missing her. We don't know the facts and every company has a strict policy about speaking about them to the media on any subject. You just got educated.
When I finally did retire, knowing it was "killing" me, I stopped further damage but could not undo the harm. Retire when you can from these cubicle jobs!
@@dallastrujillo7540as a former security guard 30yrs ago, it can be bad but it's nothing new. Complacency breeds contempt. 8hrs in a low crime, empty office building assuming locks and alarms are good let people get bored and lazy.
There’s no way anyone noticed she didn’t clocked out for 4 DAYS! That ain’t even overtime! Her boss never walked out or greeting Her every day? Definitely that people aren’t doing their job! So sad.
How the hell do we got to the point that a *DEAD BODY* rots on a desk for 4 days at work before anyone notices!? You can't tell me this isn't some absolutely dystopic movie stuff
Modern First-World banking is "dystopic", yes (the book "Modern Money Mechanics" is the stuff of nightmares), but not in the way you think. Even in utopias, dead bodies can go unnoticed for days, weeks, months, or even years. I recall an incident in which property-tax collectors went to a woman's house to see why she hadn't paid property tax in 4 years, and yes, they discovered _exactly_ why she hadn't been paying taxes: she was a skeleton lying on a moldy bed. Rats and maggots had eaten all her flesh. She'd been dead for years. It happens all the time, especially with old people who have no living friends or relatives.
Is that not normal? Its happened at least 2 or 3 times at places ive worked. If your snooping around the office to see if anyones died then your clearly not doing your job. Its your job to get the numbers up and its the janitors job to poke and prod the people who stop moving. Unless they die in the break room that just depresses people so they usually report those losses
Would be nice for Wells Fargo to assure their employees that a routine daily wellness check will be put in place. A simple "Hello, glad to see you're doing OK" would be appreciated. Perhaps they don't realize there's a lot of people out here that live alone & really have no one they speak to on a regular basis.
If a person get even 1 min late to work, he/she would be called in the office. But if anyone would be missing for 4 days, no one would care. Wow. So deeply sad. Corporations do not care about workers. Only profits.
Well, above it started out 5 minutes late to work, then 2 minutes, now 1 minute. lol. It is about being late....ALL THE TIME..not a few minutes, and business is in business for profit not charity. You would be too.
@@littleme3597 I'm flexible with people. If they were 1 or 2 or 5 minutes late, I wouldn't care as long as they stayed a bit late that day to make it up. I had a boss like that over 30 years ago and he was a really nice guy. He used to say 'just make sure you give me 8 hours.' Unless you work on an assembly line or your job directly affects other people, meaning they can't do THEIR work until you show up, constantly quibbling over a few minutes is nothing but anal retentive behavior. I would be more interested in the QUALITY of their work rather than the time of day in which they do it.
This is too fishy. Just the basics: No one looked at the check out record; no one cleaned her desk area; no one noticed she wasn't working; not to mention the awfulness of no one noticing she hadn't moved in 4 days!! Worst management in history and most inhumane environment
The illegal alien janitors that don't speak English and have earbuds on and work at night ? No, they're not going to notice that you're dead at your stupid desk.
@@melindaroop1346 Also the 24/7 security never did a routine sweep in 4 days? Someone should have noticed that an employee was still there after closing time, it certainly shouldn't have taken until decomposition for people to realize something was wrong.
Having worked in a Wells Fargo building before I can tell you they don't clean those damn nasty offices. Someone might come along and grab the trash in the bin, but that's it.
This kinda reminds me of the cynical take from Vincent, the hitman antagonist from the movie Collateral played by Tom Cruise. Pretty dismissive about modern society, he would justify his actions with just this kind of anecdote 😂 "I read about this guy, gets on the MTA here, dies. Six hours he's riding the subway before anybody notices his corpse doing laps around L.A., people on and off sitting next to him... nobody notices." And he was shocked by 6 hours... 😂 Edit: Needless to say, the fact that a grim, cynical movie killer's anecdotes are still somehow less bad than real life, should scare the bejeezus out of us all xD
Had squeezing chest pain and tingling in fingers. Let my boss know I was stepping away to deal with a medical issue. Came back 40 minutes later after working with my doctor to coordinate care and follow up visit. Was told by my boss I placed a "burden" on my team because it was a rough morning. What is wrong with people?
Honestly, the most surprising thing to me is the fact that she could do no work for four days, without anybody noticing. Are these just fake jobs or something? If I didn't do anything for a full day at my job I'd be fired instantly. FOUR days not working and they didn't even notice?
Yeah, I don’t get how anyone doesn’t have some type of professional interaction with a single person all day long in a building that big. You would think there would have been phone calls or emails unanswered. Was her job so unimportant that she had no interaction with anyone else that would have alerted someone something was wrong? And apparently there was no family that noticed either. Very, very sad.
Poor girl didn't have close enough friends to go 4 days without a "good morning" or "get home safe"? This is fishy because if you're at work but your clock hit isn't registered, a supervisor will notify you before the workday is done! Lot of questions on this one!
Horribly sad. I worked at Chase, huge building. People frequently died in the parking lot- heart attacks from stress. One coworker was on the phone and manager came over to "coach" him for being on a call too long. He died from heart attack due to high stress.
My neighbor worked for the post office. If you don’t call in sick or you don’t show up, they will call you the same day📞. They have something that’s called a courtesy call. If you do not call them back two employees come to your home the next day to see if you were OK. If you don’t come to the door then the Work will call the police to check if you are alive or OK. In his case, he had passed on overnight. His company provides that service for anybody who lives alone at home. I think this is a good idea.
I saw another story where a man did not show up for work at a restaurant and they called and left a message telling him he was fired. His body laid in his house for weeks before neighbors reported a smell.
I have a wife and several brothers in Christ that we check in with each other in prayer and daily devotional every single morning via text. If someone doesn't chime in we go and find out if they are okay. I know 2 elderly women who live across the street from each other who text each other every single morning just to know the other is still alive. It's good to have someone who has your back. I am fortunate to have a handful of people that have my back.
It says that the coworkers minded their own business... It also says that whatever she did, it wasn't important enough that someone would notice if she didn't do it...
Perhaps the most disturbing thing about this is the fact that the person that died apparently had no one in her life, or no one that cared enough about her to check why she hadn't been home, why her mail hadn't been picked-up, why no one had not seen here around, why her car had not been moved. This is an unbelievably sad commentary on how our society has . . . apparently become.
Right? And no coworkers to talk to. Heck, took an hour off work in the morning a few weeks ago and my coworker messaged me 30min after my start time to ask where I was and if I was okay. We all work remote but we still use chat systems to keep in touch throughout the day!
I mean I am gonna die alone too. I don't mind. It's just how it is. I have worked in nursing homes and a LOT of people die alone, in fact I would say most people and animals die alone.... If anything the ones who don't die alone are probably the ones getting eaten alive.....
Reminds me of the opening in Boondock Saints where the priest was chastising the church because a woman was murdered in broad daylight and everyone just ignored it..
It’s not that disturbing, most people don’t want to be nosy. I could die right now and it’s very easy to believe that outside of work, nobody would notice. Four days is easy to believe.
I was one that for years worked loads of free overtime, giving every ounce of my expertise and existence to my corporate job. I finally woke up and realized that no one cared, not one promotion came my way during these years of total, unbridled commitment. Now, I do my job and leave the rest for later. No more unpaid overtime, nights or weekends. I use all of my vacation and happily take days when I need a stress break. My health is now slowly improving. I feel for this woman, no one should have to die completely alone in a cubicle where there are nothing but coworkers and supervisors who don't give a da*n about you. I hope and pray that she has finally found some peace.
I did that, worked 16 hour shifts by volunteering. It was a very toxic environment but I liked the way the checks looked. They didn't care about me, was disrespected almost weekly either by nurses or the evil patients. My body was overwhelmed. I will never do that again.
I'm grateful that you woke up to your behavior as too many employers have taken that behavior as standard and expected it. If everybody thought the same way and respected their body, mind, health, and time to not prioritize work over everything, from CEO to lowest employee, from Chairman and C-level suite execs to in investors, I think America would be a much better off place
ive always justified my laziness by saying at least i dont have some office job at wells fargo. obviously for a reason though. also, "we just thought it was faulty plumbing", like is wells fargo a street in india lol? and also, those employees were more right than they knew.
When you are working so hard that you don't have friends who notice you are missing for 4 days, but your job is so unimportant that people don't realize for 4 days that you're sitting dead at your desk, this is where we have come
This broke my heart - an indication of our modern disconnected work environment. No one noticed she was gone? A reminder to live your life NOW. Work really doesn't care about you.
I say this all the time! Quality of life is more important than a job. Live your life! Work doesn't care about you! Thankfully I now work at my church and I love it!
@@richardpatrick2852 if we're being completely honest that's almost like 90% of the workforce who walks around tip toeing management and HR, other abusive employees who are just looking to step over them to get to the next level...
I'd imagine it's as simple as this matter being serious and under investigation. Probably against standard company policy to just start giving out details of the event.
Believe me, I've had many different positions in the hospitality industry in my 30 years on this planet. I can say with confidence that I could name the people who would have cared if I was dead on one hand. That's out of hundreds of employers/employees. Cycle of doing your best that never gets acknowledged, being scolded for the few mistakes you have made, being expected to go above and beyond for a role with little to no personal benefit and ultimately being treated like an unfeeling, tireless android with no ability to be tired and get paid f*** all for doing so..
@@sugarbooablethat’s easy. I could die right now and not be noticed for four days. It’s not like I talk to family or friends every day. Pretty easy to happen.
And this is why people need to put their health above their job. If no one noticed she wasn't around occasionally being behind on work will not destroy the company.
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These corporation have young workers today not like back n the days where the old geeks supervisor really care about there employees. I bet you that there watch the money 💰
I have been a security officer for over a decade. Early in my career, I was told to always be thorough when making my rounds. I had been advised that another guard had failed to do so and missed a dead body in the stairwell. The guard should be embarrassed by not having checked the area for four whole days, especially after a foul odor had been reported. (Edited) Doesn't seem like it to those who don't take it seriously, but security is a very important job. Not to sound like Paul Blart or anything 😂
Security, AND custodial workers (janitors). Are you telling me not a single one noticed anything when vacuuming or emptying wastebaskets, especially after-hours?? Or does Wells-Fargo not bother with such "wasteful spending" as keeping the business clean and tidy?
The poor woman died in one of those stress filled corporate environments where they dump too much work and not near enough training but expect you to know everything. It just shows how little they really know, or care about humanity.
How is a person dead at work for 4 days without any managers, work colleagues, admin staff, cleaning staff etc not noticing??? It doesn't make any sense 😢😮
@@SoftlinkStudio it’s like that Mel Gibson movie “What women want” where the one lady felt completely unseen at her workplace. It definitely happens for real but if you aren’t there making them the money oh then they notice for sure
When i started out as a new nurse at a high pressure hospital unit, one of the more senior nurses gave me the best advice: don't let management dictate your life, don't do overtime that you can't handle, you are more important than work because if something happens to you from overworking, management won't even send you flowers at the funeral.
Security would only be responsible if an alarm went off and an unauthorized person entered the office. The office manager is responsible for employees clocking in and out. The office manager or person in charge failed to do their job.
How do u know security was even permitted to be in staff areas? Exactly, at the end of the day its on the people that were in that area supervisors and Wells Fargo.
This kinda reminds me of the cynical take from Vincent, the hitman antagonist from the movie Collateral played by Tom Cruise. Pretty dismissive about modern society, he would justify his actions with just this kind of anecdote 😂 "I read about this guy, gets on the MTa here, dies. Six hours he's riding the subway before anybody notices his corpse doing laps around L.A., people on and off sitting next to him... nobody notices." And he was shocked by 6 hours... 😂
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