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Balancing in World of Tanks will be a joke until Wargaming address the elephant in the room. Here's FOLK_UA to show you the Object 279 (e)!
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@MrJ3
@MrJ3 Год назад
I feel like if WG actually started to balance premium tanks, it would cause a shitstorm in the short term, but once players get used to the new state of things, it will be just fine. And the game would be a lot healthier for it.
@soupfork2105
@soupfork2105 Год назад
WG probably fears that if it nerfs premium vehicles, sales of new premium vehicles will drop dramatically because players will be very reluctant to spend €40 on a tank that is great when it comes out but then gets nerfed 6 months later.
@mrkts4811
@mrkts4811 Год назад
the problem is that you payed for that tank and not for a garbage something what it can be after a nerf
@chrisckinfos54
@chrisckinfos54 Год назад
its not about nerfing premium tanks! its about nerfing the t95fv and the obj279e. These are reward tanks not premiums. Premiums should never been touched unless they need some buff adjastments.
@seanwilcox9715
@seanwilcox9715 Год назад
See the thing is though, I buy a guitar for $1000 and after a few years I can expect the finish to get scratched, the frets to wear out and the wood to degrade from heating/cooling and wet/dry seasons. That guitar should then be worth $500 or so give or take. With any real life item, players have to accept that premium tanks can age, change and get worse or better just like a real life item. I would also not expect to walk into that guitar store and see the SAME guitar for $1000 3 years later, it would be a reduced cost. WG has been selling us years-old premium tanks at the exact same price they were released when brand new despite being powercrept, left behind and often made completely irrelevant.
@Zoltan1251
@Zoltan1251 Год назад
279e isnt even premium!!!!!! there is nothing that stops them
@CrazyNikel
@CrazyNikel Год назад
I haven't played WoT in years, to see this guy just out brawl 2 top tier TD's and 2 top tier Heavy's *and take ZERO damage* was mind blowing to watch. 🤯
@TheGravewalker
@TheGravewalker Год назад
he dealt 9500 dmg without cover, without camo, without taking dmg himself
@VosperCDN
@VosperCDN Год назад
And making it seem so casual, just point, shoot, pen, onto the next one. This is so far from good for the game, long past time for nerfs.
@nephalos666
@nephalos666 Год назад
@@VosperCDN Point, shoot, pen, move on. That's the issue with gold ammo spammers these days. They don't really need to aim. They just press 2 and get better pen with no real drawback.
@rockervolt9177
@rockervolt9177 Год назад
I wanted to write the same comment as yours, bro, because that guy in the video featured by QB is the exact reason I don't play this game anymore after more than 10 years in. Sadly, I'm bored of those invincible tanks. I don't even speak about the latest one, BZ-176... There will always be people to tell you that it's you that just can't play, that you are the problem. The fact is I'm a decent player (WoT rating 7043) but as you see in that video, there are some situations where you can't do absolutely nothing to win. To compete in those situations, there's no other choice than to acquire the EXACT same OP weapons as your enemy, whether you like it or not. To have a Chieftain you have to play clanwars at highest level, to have a BZ176 you could just rely on luck with those surprise boxes(!), only 279e can be obtained with numerous missions, some of them also based on pure luck of circumstances
@horacio373
@horacio373 Год назад
Obj 263 is no longer tier 10, but its armor is still good to make the point
@braixen1346
@braixen1346 Год назад
I completely agree. Just look at the mäuschen he faced. Even the best mäuschen player couldnt have done any damage to the 279 e, Imagine how fun the game would be if everyone had a chance.
@khaderkhan190
@khaderkhan190 Год назад
wasn't me in the mauschen but literally just had that same thing happen to me. Did one shot of damage to the 79e and he farmed me from full to 0. You get 3 games like that in a row and you turn the game off its pointless on the weekends.
@accelerationquanta5816
@accelerationquanta5816 Год назад
That means they should buff the Mauschen, not nerf the 279E.
@CactusforceX
@CactusforceX Год назад
@@accelerationquanta5816 That is the definition of power creep - and how WoT got in this mess in the first place
@accelerationquanta5816
@accelerationquanta5816 Год назад
@@CactusforceX Power creep is irrelevant as long as everything creeps and nothing gets left behind.
@CactusforceX
@CactusforceX Год назад
@@accelerationquanta5816 A fair point, I do wonder where that eventually leads though. Average damage being 1k +? Futuristic space tanks? maybe it could be done without changing the core game, but I'd be surprised
@scufitzuca
@scufitzuca Год назад
Hit the nail on the head. these op tanks create a serious barrier for new players, such a huge difference between some reward tanks/premium tanks and average joe grind tanks
@thatkidtom_e3243
@thatkidtom_e3243 Год назад
We all appreciate that you still decided to work on this great video even though you're sick thank you qb!
@imma5761
@imma5761 Год назад
RU-vidrs are only one who get praised for working 1 hour a day.
@eberlix
@eberlix Год назад
I personally think he should've rested a bit longer and not put such unnecessary strain on his voice, it honestly sounded quite painful to me, making me a bit uncomfortable. Maybe there would've been other ways to deliver Content to us, like maybe have his wife do a voice over, or maybe try an artificial voice (like some text to speech programms), honestly seems like it could've been extra fun. But ultimately that is just my opinion, maybe others are just happy to hear him again, even under such circumstances, nevertheless we indeed do appreciate the Content provided.
@st3v3sm1th
@st3v3sm1th Год назад
@@imma5761 It's a lot more work than that. QB is one of the hardest working content creators in the business, he regularly puts in 12hours+ several days a week on stream then releases videos on his "off" days.
@imma5761
@imma5761 Год назад
@@st3v3sm1th because recycling game that you had already played and that majority of viewers have already seen is very very very hard work.
@st3v3sm1th
@st3v3sm1th Год назад
@@imma5761 Try it. See how long it takes you to produce a video of this quality.
@WilliFR
@WilliFR Год назад
one thing they could do without nerfing it is making 279e and Chieftain have a special MM to only face tier x tanks only and never face tier 8 at least, they will be the same powerfull tank but without abusing tier 8 players
@Hyxtrem
@Hyxtrem Год назад
That was exactly my thought. When you're going for your traditionnal Heavy T8 and facing a 279 or chieftain, you know it's already dead. If you can't fall back, you're just a pinata. It's SO bad
@Riskyfortabisky
@Riskyfortabisky Год назад
That fixes nothing
@lucanicolasstefan4788
@lucanicolasstefan4788 Год назад
​@@Riskyfortabisky Fixes a lot. 279 isn't that strong in full Tier X
@WilliFR
@WilliFR Год назад
@@Riskyfortabisky it's better that nothing
@Ben-vg6ox
@Ben-vg6ox Год назад
​@@Riskyfortabisky it's a push in the right direction
@md_master
@md_master Год назад
Hey QB. Thanks for making content. Please rest a bit. Get better and come back 😉 wish you health and safety
@AnimationPuppeteer
@AnimationPuppeteer Год назад
I had a random battle where the opposing team had an Obj. 279(e) and a T95/FV4201, and our team had neither. Match went as expected.
@coral910
@coral910 Год назад
Agree 100% - BZ176 is more top OP tier 9 than just tier 8 tank
@matijaskreblin6725
@matijaskreblin6725 Год назад
Really, dude skoda t56 is way better tank than bz176 just people are not talking so much about them.. 130 caliber and 2 times 460 damage with 3.5 interclip reload is way more OP then 800 damage and then same reload as skoda…
@lifeinjersey9846
@lifeinjersey9846 Год назад
@@matijaskreblin6725 its not though, the skoda is a great tank and does over perform. But the armor isn't as good as the BZ, the lfp is weak, sides are weak, turret has the giant cuppola and doesn't need to be overmatched. Plus you are forgetting the main downside of the skoda and all autoloader, you need to hit and pen all your shots. Skoda misses or bounces 1 shot and its not a threat, the BZ literally just needs to hit you once. Its armor for its tier is very strong. The fact wg says the bz uses its rng to "balance" the tank is a joke. You can literally 2 shot any other tier 8 heavy with the bz, sure the skoda can do it with 2 clips of 490 each, but again the skoda armor, no hesh mean its harder. Why do you think people don't complain about the Caliban its has a great gun, slow shell speed, no armor, it has downside but the bz is basically a tier 9 heavy for its armor and gun
@bencetoth5305
@bencetoth5305 Год назад
​@@matijaskreblin6725 yes, and what about armor and gun depression. The BZ is OP not because the freaking 800 dmg. But the tank has armor, gun depression and with the rockets u have some speed. Which one has the Skoda out of those? The Skoda has cupola, the hull is kinda weak, its sluggish mobility wise and cannot play so easily on ridgelines.
@mikepette4422
@mikepette4422 Год назад
i quit because of the bz-176 I'm sick of losing half my health inn a single hit
@wojtasik56
@wojtasik56 Год назад
​@@matijaskreblin6725 rly haha OMG
@toddk798
@toddk798 Год назад
It goes way beyond the 279e/chieftain. It seems every new premium tank or game mechanic introduced favors players willing to spend allot of money like the BZ176 or Iron Arnie, and then making maps to favor hull down monsters while simultaneously offering that hull down monster for cash. And as if that's not enough, they try to deal with the problem by nerfing any tank that you can grind for free because it's too competitive. How is nerfing a tank, that I spent hours and hours grinding to get, just so I could stand a chance against a 279e considered O.K. People now have resorted to game rigging, just to compete. This game that I loved is turning into a toxic nightmare, I go away feeling angry and frustrated more times than not and that inevitably results in less time playing the game.
@accelerationquanta5816
@accelerationquanta5816 Год назад
Play the strongest tanks instead of whining.
@samubo206
@samubo206 Год назад
@@accelerationquanta5816 PlAy The StronGeST tAnks InstEAd of WHinIng , dude what’s the purpose of grinding tech lines if you gotta play only those chosen ones..
@accelerationquanta5816
@accelerationquanta5816 Год назад
@@samubo206 Why would you grind tech trees that suck? LOL
@samubo206
@samubo206 Год назад
@@accelerationquanta5816 there are tech trees for a reason in the game.. or it will become always the same crap all over again.. meh.. the game is gonna die anyway
@alanocarlossur9440
@alanocarlossur9440 Год назад
Force the 279e to only be able to be in a match if there is a 279e on the other team. Make them wait in the queue until someone else decides to play their 279e.
@royalenigma434
@royalenigma434 Год назад
Theres something similar in world of tanks blitz where a tank called the anniahlator (spelled wrong probably) is forced to be matched against another one unless its bottom tier
@russb4755
@russb4755 Год назад
I don't remember the Type59 being so OP and they nerfed it. In fact, I'd say today's tier 8 premiums are more overpowered Vs techtree tanks than the Type59 was back in the day. I think part of what made the 59 so OP was the combination of speed and player comradery, you'd suddenly find a couple of Type59 best friends and without saying a word, pick out lone tanks and surround them like a pack of wolves!!
@averywebb1179
@averywebb1179 Год назад
What's sad to me is that this is not the first video that QB has done, and not only that, he's not the only CC that has made a video like this about these stupidly OP vehicles. The fact that WG still refuses to do anything about them just proves even more just how little WG actually cares about it's community. they won't listen to literally every CC out there and they won't listen to the vast majority of the player base. They would rather cater to the handful of sweaty individuals that have the tanks, and allow them to run around doing 10k damage every other game ruining it for other players. When the game dies, it will be to the surprise of no one that the balance department would have killed it if they don't do anything.
@saviourself687
@saviourself687 Год назад
I just don't care about people bitching about balance in this game when they generally support nerfs/changes to arty which I played for years (hit Tier X in 5 different arty lines) and now all sit under a thick layer of dust because they've been broken over and over again. WG are going to do what they're going to do and people are congenitally stupid if they expect anything different...
@averywebb1179
@averywebb1179 Год назад
"I played arty, and they nerfed that." Literally no one cares about you and your precious arty.
@JJ-gn8px
@JJ-gn8px Год назад
I don't have any of the OP tanks, but money talks, if everyone stops playing tier 7,8,9,10 it would cause a headache for WG, when nobody plays the thing you love or that gives you money then you have an incentive to change, if by changing they survived as a company they would do it, but first they need to feel the hurt of nobody liking what they are doing. so don't play those tiers where they make money, encourage your friends to stop, switch to a different game for a time, and in the next survey when they ask saying... cause I hate the premiums...
@brendonmeyer6677
@brendonmeyer6677 Год назад
In regard to "PAID FOR" premiums - the problem is they *CAN'T* do anything about those for which money has changed hands... That *IS* the law (at least in some countries). If nothing else, it highlights that they should have got their sh*t together and balanced the bl...dy things to begin with in testing. That is a problem that WG created for themselves and they have no one else to blame but themselves. For "REWARD" tanks ... no idea. I can't *think* of anything immediately (just looking at AU law in my country) as to why the could not adjust those but it would be pretty bad PR if they did. They would have to offer something up as compensation though.
@averywebb1179
@averywebb1179 Год назад
@brendonmeyer6677 WG reserves the right to do anything they want to those premium vehicles. Hence, the reason they can still ban you barring you from using those things you paid for. If they couldn't change premium vehicles, it would also bar them from ever buffing any of them. But you can see that doesn't stop them. It's an excuse.
@20jamjar
@20jamjar Год назад
The biggest balancing issue overall is gold rounds, the game is balanced around them and it a massive issue due to the differences in pen vs non-prem rounds and even round type.
@typhvam5107
@typhvam5107 Год назад
Yeah they should be variants, not plain buffs. Different speed, could have more pen but less damage and so forth. oddly some arty shells are a good example of decent variety and actual choice. Gold vs normal is never a choice, it should be.
@viezurelepanykt
@viezurelepanykt Год назад
Remember the time players had enough and complained a lot and they decided to change the shells? Remember? Well they fooled us to change HE shells and players just swallowed it... Yeah, WG is really for the players...
@Nova_501
@Nova_501 Год назад
@@typhvam5107 more pen less damage would never work in the current game. As the game is balanced around gold rounds. It would just be like giving the 279e, maus, e3 etc 20% more HP, or whatever the damage difference is. Every single tank needs a standard round weak spot before that would ever work
@lpanades
@lpanades Год назад
No. Some vehicles can play without gold and against some vehicle like Obj 279(e) or Obj268v4 you need to use gold. Whty Grille 15 need to use gold against about everything while everything can use HE against it. And ask if it uses AP or other ammunition with advantage: no! The gun handling is a shit, the camo is a shit, the mobility is a shit, everything is a shit. The balancing of Wargaming is a shit. THERE ARE NO BALANCING IN THIS GAME. CHECK E 100 AND OBJ 279 (E). E 100 weakpoints are 1000 times bigger than Obj 279(e). It has worse gun handling, worse pen... worse everything. THERE ARE NO BALANCING IN THIS GAME!
@typhvam5107
@typhvam5107 Год назад
@@Nova_501 the game can be rebalanced so that this works. Its dumb to be balanced around gold rounds in the first place. And not really, you can flank etc, a higher pen less damage round works fine, if you do not want to flank you can switch to a round that has a higher chances to pen but less damage. There is 0 reason to ever use anything other than gold right now, this is horrible design. Maybe that is not the solution, but i do strongly believe this is a fundamental problem. Round variety doesn't really exist, especially after HE changes.
@Ty_Guy2K
@Ty_Guy2K Год назад
I like that you mentioned the clan war part. I don’t have that many games played and just participated in the first clan wars a couple weeks ago and it’s quite frustrating to never get picked to play bc I don’t have a chief or 279 even though my statistics say I’m a top 5 player in my clan
@OrcaSpiderJay
@OrcaSpiderJay Год назад
Why don't you just get a 279 if you are that good?
@IllyaTheKiller
@IllyaTheKiller Год назад
@@OrcaSpiderJay Probably luck related since missions need stupid ass requirements that are difficult to achieve or barely use certain type of tanks.
@Ty_Guy2K
@Ty_Guy2K Год назад
@@OrcaSpiderJay uhh I have like 4k games played idk of too many people that have gotten the 279e that fast with their first account lol
@Angel-vf4ik
@Angel-vf4ik Год назад
I havent got the 279 because didnt want to get tilted with the missions, they are fucking rng on top of rng in a rng game.... this said I'm trying it for first time in years and... booooring.
@Mystro84
@Mystro84 Год назад
@@OrcaSpiderJay The massive RNG and pure luck involved? MT15 for the 260 is bad enough that way, but the 279(e) missions take it to a whole other level.
@razvancristian2459
@razvancristian2459 Год назад
The fact that he also only missed 2 shots, it's mind blowing for me. Shooting on the move, still hitting the weak points.
@Akrilloth
@Akrilloth Год назад
Hence why some say that "unicum" is a toggle within the game. Some people just dont suffer from RNG for some reason.
@razvancristian2459
@razvancristian2459 Год назад
@@Akrilloth i agree, my worst RNG streak i think i had about 10 games in a row with VZ55 where my ammo rack was damaged even multiple times in one battle and a few times 1 shotted.
@Colapoika
@Colapoika Год назад
@@Akrilloth Complete garbage. It's just the fact that better players know the exact values of the plates they are aiming for and know their likely hood of penning it, as well as likely hood of hitting it. Also, better players don't base their plays based on that one shot (They peek the shots in "Proper" fashion, so to say they know they ain't gonna get penned but they have a chance of shooting the enemy). It's just an skill issue. Nothing else.
@Akrilloth
@Akrilloth Год назад
"Just a skill issue" What absolute trash you are saying, that does not explain how one player in a 260 somehow nails 8/10 snapshots into a cupola while somebody else in a grille 15 barely gets 2/10 into an e100 lower plate within the same range when fully aimed.
@Colapoika
@Colapoika Год назад
@@Akrilloth I'd like to see a proof of this one. Yes, there certainly is rng in the game and it happens to everybody. Worse players just suffer more from it because they intentionally/unintentionally base their plays too much on to those few shots. Comes from a ~4k wn8. Edit. And also, sometimes i see players on streams for example blaim rng because they for example missed an E 100 lower plate, where as in fact for example the E 100 was just wiggling and the player just shot their tracks. Simply poor aim.
@dizzcostu
@dizzcostu Год назад
If they don't want to nerf the tanks, they should absolutely do what they did with the EBR. You will face a similar vehicle on the other team...a Chief meets a Chief, 270e vs 279e.
@Riskyfortabisky
@Riskyfortabisky Год назад
No that fixes nothing they actually nerfed ebr
@arandomperson7591
@arandomperson7591 Год назад
that just means the game is decided by which ever team has the better cheif player
@dizzcostu
@dizzcostu Год назад
@@arandomperson7591 I'd rather that than them winning solely because they have a Chief
@cembor
@cembor Год назад
@@arandomperson7591 there's nothing wrong with that. That's what happening currently with EBR105s in game. That is much closer to parity than the current system.
@HomeCinemaJunkie
@HomeCinemaJunkie Год назад
I met 2x Cheiftains on the enemy team and they werent even in a platoon. Fortunatle they were too overconfident and still lost🤣
@Stealth86651
@Stealth86651 Год назад
Hope you feel better. And agreed, WoT's/Wargaming has been slowly doing away with fair balance for awhile now unfortunately. I used to play, took a break and came back 2 years later. A lot of my tanks that could hold their own (premiums and regular) were just flat out not effective/competitive anymore unfortunately compared to newer vehicles.
@Mayonez86
@Mayonez86 Год назад
I've unlocked 279e like 2 years ago, played like 5 battles (not really good performance cos i just drove yolo and died) and never used it anymore. I just feel dirty and uncomfortable playing it, knowing that I have unfair advantage over other players.
@drp.wolfgang
@drp.wolfgang Год назад
this is what heroes do
@christonkinson8473
@christonkinson8473 Год назад
Sir I believe I speak for many when I say ... thank you for keeping a dust sheet over the monster and keeping it away from the battlefield
@hoodlum1107
@hoodlum1107 Год назад
Well done mate. I feel the same about my bz-176. Need a shower after playing that OP beast.
@accelerationquanta5816
@accelerationquanta5816 Год назад
You're a wimp. I'd play it exclusively.
@accelerationquanta5816
@accelerationquanta5816 Год назад
@@drp.wolfgang No, it's what beta males do. Real men do whatever they can to get ahead.
@charmyt129
@charmyt129 Год назад
Props to you QB for sticking in the grind while not well, take a break dude you deserve it.
@ausardash
@ausardash Год назад
I mean playing videogames while u are Ill is no t that pain at all lol
@charmyt129
@charmyt129 Год назад
@@ausardash no, but commentating over it can be xd
@ausardash
@ausardash Год назад
@@charmyt129 lmao
@WoTwithBRUCE
@WoTwithBRUCE Год назад
Absolutely true. This tank is so TOXIC, completely destroying all the fun in the game if it is in either team.....
@robinkhn2547
@robinkhn2547 Год назад
still not as bad as the lefh lol
@DUDEWithDODGES
@DUDEWithDODGES Год назад
I love how they nerf the T110E3 but the 268/4 is still running around. T95/FV as well. And this 279. The T110E3 was the only tech tree tank that could face it head to head and kill it
@staredsky
@staredsky Год назад
that's why they nerfed it. So now the proud pay per win clanwar-rewarded guys will not have any longer an opponent
@shivanandhrajendran1049
@shivanandhrajendran1049 Год назад
E3 is still good in the hands of players who has brain
@NtrosXo
@NtrosXo Год назад
@@shivanandhrajendran1049 you totally missed the point
@arandomperson7591
@arandomperson7591 Год назад
@@staredsky i think E3 can still beat 279e, iirc they didnt nerf E3 armor so hull down E3 still can't be penned by 279e gold while E3 gold can consistently pen 279e
@bluesharpie9744
@bluesharpie9744 Год назад
I really don't find the 268v4 hard to deal with. The cupola is a big weak spot, the upper plate can be penned from a slighty elevated angle or when it rocks forward, and the two inwards-angled plates on the superstructure can be penetrated from a reasonable angle, too. Edit: Yeah, the superstructure part is really only when you load gold or when it goes too broadside
@tweeotch
@tweeotch Год назад
I hope you feel better soon, QB. Thanks for the video!
@tedcruz212
@tedcruz212 Год назад
I Love the deep voiced quackybaby. P.S. Thanks for still making videos despite your Illness!
@kevinyu1224
@kevinyu1224 Год назад
Gammer: Hay we got a unbalanced tank in the game! WG: Don't worry, we'll give you another unbalanced tank.
@pandarocksu92
@pandarocksu92 Год назад
QB is literally that episode of friends where Phoebe gets sick and gets a dead husky voice from it 😂
@naejin
@naejin Год назад
Last time I had Covid, I had a similar experience, where symptoms felt like they were getting better, but later resurfaced. And when I thought I was finally getting better, it happened again an additional time where symptoms came back. Took me over 3 weeks to fully recover and all symptoms to dissipate.
@crackedtadacktle1003
@crackedtadacktle1003 Год назад
Hope you feel better soon QuickyBaby
@lewiswoodcock1907
@lewiswoodcock1907 Год назад
well done qb thanks for being so dedicated to your viewers despite your a little ill!! everyone drop a like to show gratitude!!!
@JohnnyMaverik
@JohnnyMaverik Год назад
I stopped playing years ago because of the premium tank problem. Still remember when premium tanks were excused as making more xp and credits, being flexible for crew training but being a bit worse than their tech tree equivalents or at least, if not worse, far less rounded. They tended to be one trick ponies. At some point that seemed to switch, maybe it was the type 59, a tank that was a fairly well rounded vehicle compared to it's very odd, good situationally but generally pretty bad tech tree equivalent. I had some premium tanks but it started to feel like an arms race to get what ever the latest broken piece of crap they'd just released was and really most tech trees felt like mostly meh or weird until tier 10, a tier I was never overly fond of, preferred playing at tier 8 or 9 just due to the metas at those tiers at the time. I also predicted and am probably correct that unless they banned reward and premium vehicles from clan wars and strongholds then those elements of the game are swamped with them even at tier 10 these days.
@plugus_maximus
@plugus_maximus Год назад
Why do people always claim to "have stopped playing years ago" still watch WOT vids all the time and have a moan lol
@silbay
@silbay Год назад
@@plugus_maximus because we like to watch comedy channels and anyone playing this game is a clown
@plugus_maximus
@plugus_maximus Год назад
@@silbay Maybe you need to get a life lol
@LesabreSuper
@LesabreSuper Год назад
​@@plugus_maximus its just interesting (and feels good) to come around every few months to see that we were right to leave years ago and that WG hasnt gotten any better. Ive spent plenty of money on the game and would enjoy if i could actually use my old stuff again, but everytime i check up on the state of the game i see that im not missing out on anything. I dont really comment, and i encourage you to enjoy the game if you still do. But i dont like seeing people feel trapped in this game of toxic business practices when theres so much better out there.
@MrHendoP
@MrHendoP Год назад
Super Pershing nerf fell foul of EU rules on online selling, where the item received is not what was advertised for sale, by changing the in game stats to differ from what was advertised as sold it allowed payers to be entitled to a full cash refund. The reward tanks where never for sale so are not covered so should be changed.
@Cozmoz79
@Cozmoz79 Год назад
*WG:* Obj 279 (e) is too good for ranked games. *Players:* So you just keep it in the random queue where it can sometimes face tier 8 games. If it's too good for ranked, how do you think it will impact in random battles? *Players:* Hello? *Me:* Belarusian logic it seems.
@codynator15
@codynator15 Год назад
He's oldmanbaby now
@lonemarkkingoftypos3722
@lonemarkkingoftypos3722 Год назад
Old man jingles is rubbing onto him!
@HowDidThisHappenNow
@HowDidThisHappenNow Год назад
I wish that there be a max cap on total amount of prem ammo you can have in the loadout (so it cant be 100% prem ammo) will probebly requier some stats tweks for some tanks on the other ammo types
@robinkhn2547
@robinkhn2547 Год назад
Good idea. However you'd need to take into consideration stock guns. When driving a tank with a stock gun you sometimes need to load a lot of gold.
@jorgje123
@jorgje123 Год назад
your a legend for stil making videos while sick! get better soon man.
@RealPotsOK
@RealPotsOK Год назад
glad for you to feel better, I love your content. I would really love it if you feel a lot better to play all the bond tank and ranking them. (If he has already done this, can you please link the video to me? Thank you )
@g.d.graham2446
@g.d.graham2446 Год назад
I pray for your health, Quickybaby. I hope it isn't COVID-19 😭
@Nazulio
@Nazulio Год назад
I think WG is more likely to put tier 11 tanks than nerfing those OP reward tanks
@urlocaldealerw47k3r5
@urlocaldealerw47k3r5 Год назад
and that is great since theese tanks are played mostly by good players meaning that bad players wont get it ... easy system
@klaabu99
@klaabu99 Год назад
easy fix would be to remove reward tanks from random battles...
@apackofhoboes
@apackofhoboes Год назад
I like how I get an ad for World of Tanks boosting and their highlight was getting the 279e. Lol
@magecraft2
@magecraft2 Год назад
One problem I see about nerfing premium/reward tanks is I do not trust WG not to sell deliberately overpowered vehicles and then nerf after people have bought it and then rinse and repeat1
@janisivunen8897
@janisivunen8897 Год назад
Well spokeb QB!!! I really join you in the hope that balancing should involve every single tank in thr game. I have several premium tanks but still they should be at level with the tech tree ones.
@kelogorn
@kelogorn Год назад
I'm moderately certain that WG takes a cut/commission from those services that grind for you reward tanks. I can't see any other reason why they wouldn't balance some outrageously OP reward tanks (be it CW, ranked or campaigns).
@Viskristof
@Viskristof Год назад
Boosters exists due to wG not caring, not because they take a cut. They cant possibly take a cut. Same thing goes on in like every other MMO.
@xaber_
@xaber_ Год назад
WG: We have a dedicated 'balance department' guys BZ-176:
@roberttucker8129
@roberttucker8129 Год назад
Just got over being sick myself, hope you feel better QB.
@luissalvadororozcosepulved9958
Dam his voice. Poor Quicbaby. Get better soon
@cellularrhino
@cellularrhino Год назад
I would love to see both the 279e and the Chieftain nerfed. Balancing is without a doubt great for the game but when you have tanks that are excluded from having to be balanced, balancing tech tree tanks doesn't really help the health of the game all that much. I think tier 8 is actually in a worse spot with that regard than tier 10 though too. If you load into a tier 8 game and the enemy team has BZ-176s, Skoda T56s, and Borrasques for top tier tanks while your team has Tiger 2s, TNH 105s, and Pershings, what are you supposed to do? I just feel like the power discrepancy is worse at tier 8 than tier 10 although I think they all should be balanced. I see a lot of people saying that nerfing these tanks would cause a lot of problems and hesitancy to buy tanks and it probably would, but only in the short term. I am already hesitant to buy any new tech tree tier 10s in fear it will get nerfed. I am f2p and tier 10s are just so expensive to buy that I can't buy many of them. I own 6 and 3 of them have been nerfed since I purchased them which is really frustrating when often times WG goes way overboard with the nerfs (Kran needed a nerf but I really think they went too far with the Kran. Its winrate also backs that statement up). With my christmas 20% off a tier 10 I almost used it on the AMX M4 54 and I am super happy I didn't because I think they may have went too far with that one as well. With that all being said tho, the hope is that WG will get everything balanced out correctly relatively quickly and if they do nerf something too hard or buff something to hard they respond quickly and fix it. If we see them do a great job balancing the game I don't think there will be long term frustrations or hesitancy to buy new tanks. Unfortunately, as we see with the prog and standard B nerfs, WG is not always making the best buff and nerf decisions. Both the Maus and Udes are currently in the battle pass and top of the tree like the prog was, so are both of those tanks going to get played a ton and nerfed because of it? Hopefully WG can figure out the balancing and which tanks need adjustments better in the future and if they do the game will be a better place for it.
@klaabu99
@klaabu99 Год назад
bourrasque is not t8 medium... it's t9 light but dudes from wg were drunken when they put it to t8 to have fun ...
@aarongabryszczak7598
@aarongabryszczak7598 Год назад
Poor QB, get well soon! We all appreciate ur effort to keep us entertained
@robertvedsted7647
@robertvedsted7647 Год назад
they could also buff the tech tree tanks to a point where they are just as good as the OP premium tanks and if that changes the game too much then change the game so that it fits to newly buffed tanks
@robertflint4115
@robertflint4115 Год назад
That was disgusting to watch. I've been in one of those top TD's before and ripped apart by a 279e just like that. I raged just like those people prob did. They NEED NERFED. Thanks for the update and video QB. Rock on Sir 🤘😎
@nyxxra6177
@nyxxra6177 Год назад
I do have perfect cure for Cheeftain or 279 and that is T110E4 with 375mm pen ammo. If he push you step back for reload, put 2 rounds in his face and his big balls will shrink very fast 😂😂
@DualityofLife
@DualityofLife Год назад
You sound like youve been smoking for 80 years Will lmao. Hope you get well soon!
@maxgelin3673
@maxgelin3673 Год назад
Hope you felling better soon qb. Love your content.
@Stjepan105
@Stjepan105 Год назад
There is a way WG can balance 279 and chiftan without changing any of their stats. Just buff all the other tanks in the game. And then u can say technically we didn't nerf any premium/award tank
@valentindelberghe
@valentindelberghe Год назад
I agree with a nerf of the chief and the 279e these are 2 tanks which are well above the lot In clan war there is only that what is damage we do not see the diversity of wot The 260 is a reward tank and it doesn't break the game and it's a fun tank to play. You just have to do the same for the 279e and the chief, stay fun but not cheat
@sorinancuta3934
@sorinancuta3934 Год назад
260 was buffed buddy.cause it.s russian;)
@lucabehrens6108
@lucabehrens6108 Год назад
One possible solution is that reward tanks could only get matched against reward tanks
@jingluo7411
@jingluo7411 Год назад
Hi QB! I miss you and your videos very much, but I really want you to have a good rest. Take care and recover soon!
@DrosselmeierMC
@DrosselmeierMC Год назад
we appreciate the effort and commitment sickybaby!
@xlogikx
@xlogikx Год назад
Technically speaking if you have purchased a product and that product is later fundamentally changed, you could make an argument that some form of refund offer becomes available. This would not apply to reward vehicles. That is sort of why sony removing third party OS access from the PS3 caused issues.
@Erowens98
@Erowens98 Год назад
Yeah, pretty sure there is legislation like this in the EU at least. But its a bit grey regarding a digital product like this. Since you could argue that many major game updates do meaningfully change it even without directly touching it.
@Anubisutugmailcom
@Anubisutugmailcom Год назад
Its still just a game, and the deweloper changes it how they like.
@seanwilcox9715
@seanwilcox9715 Год назад
Wargaming very likely has a clause in the purchase contract that makes them allowed to make any changes whatsoever to a product or purchase no matter what, just to protect their own asses. And yes this happens all the time. I spent over a thousand dollars on Google Play Music buying songs years ago. When they shut down google play music, I lost ALL of my songs. Just because I purchased them doesn't mean I was entitled to them through digital ownership. Often these contracts are written in a way that's more like "You are buying a liscenced copy of ______" not actually buying ownership of the product. Often they reserve the right to change or remove any feature or change the product in any way before or after purchase. Almost any digital purchase is like this.
@xlogikx
@xlogikx Год назад
@@seanwilcox9715 these kind of terms don't actually fly too well in the EU because there's separate pieces of legislation covering unfair contract terms. While service closure would allow withdrawal of access to digital products, depending on the product, fundamental changes to specifics upon which a sale may have been made is not something you could get out of. I don't think WG want to test this in court, especially when such a large chunk of players are EU based.
@klaabu99
@klaabu99 Год назад
so if u buy a product and later there will be product that will make u product a lot worse can u get refund?
@muskoxthe
@muskoxthe Год назад
I was surprised by this video honestly. I missed this version of quickybaby and this is the version I originally followed for. I genuinely appreciate your input laid out this way. You didn't just jump on WG and it wasn't all just complaints. It was well thought out information and BOTH sides of the coin were put out there and it wasn't just all doom gloom and pitch forks. Not to mention lastly, the servers could be shutdown whenever they want and they would owe nothing to anyone and that's a sad fact. All online games are subject to this and there's nothing anyone can do about it. So we should just enjoy the game while it lasts because someday it just won't be there and none of this will even matter. With that said quickybaby is absolutely right, other online gaming companies nerf their paid for content all the time and people complain but over all it's for the best of the game. I hope they rebalance ALL the vehicles for a healthier experience. I've been here for 12 years and I'll continue to be here moving forward. I'm still rooting for the game and it's community.
@johanfedlund75
@johanfedlund75 Год назад
Take care, get healthy, I had an amazing stream yesterday with a big raid income after half of it. Over 300 is a lot for a little streamer. Keep up the good work.
@XSharkdarkX
@XSharkdarkX Год назад
When you watch the stats of the tier 10 and the tier 10 you see the problem in 2 sec : Chieftain, 279 (e), Bourrasque, BZ 176, Skoda T56, ELC EVEN, all of them are broken and WG don't care. I'm F2P player since 10 years and I'm slowly loosing interest in the game because of all this OP tanks, gold spam and insane MM. Don't know if I'll be into the game at the end of the year
@sabba_dabba8649
@sabba_dabba8649 Год назад
They could also promote 279(e) and Chieftain to tier XI and buff a few other tanks while also promoting them to tier XI and have Clan Wars be tier XI
@villelepoaho4105
@villelepoaho4105 Год назад
As soon as Wargaming buffed the lower plate of this tank, I knew that all hope for a balanced game went out the window.
@GuidesBlitz
@GuidesBlitz Год назад
Did you even watch the video? the about the 279e, which doesnt have a lower plate. Wg cant buff something thats not there
@silbay
@silbay Год назад
@@GuidesBlitz hell of a buff then isn't it ? Just remove the lower plate
@moltensh4dow506
@moltensh4dow506 Год назад
@@silbay it never had a lower plate to begin with. thats literally how the tank was designed in real life
@accelerationquanta5816
@accelerationquanta5816 Год назад
@@silbay The tank design literally just doesn't have a lower plate. You can see one in a museum.
@Van_of_the_lake
@Van_of_the_lake Год назад
>Play Superconc >See 279e >Load gold >Drive up close >Aim at the upper plate from above >Pen him 4 times >Destroy his ammorack with a high roll to the side >Feel his chair burning >Satisfaction
@williampaddock4863
@williampaddock4863 Год назад
It sucks because us average player who dont cheat have no way of obtaining these overpowered tanks
@Victor_Gameplay
@Victor_Gameplay Год назад
I got my 279e on January 16th, I don't think it should be nerfed, when I didn't have the 279e I was afraid to face him in battle, now iam cool with that, I believe the complaint comes mostly from those who don't have the 279 and/or doesn't know how to face it. I believe that the game's campaign being extremely difficult is precisely to you *deserve* a overpower tank.
@robinvanveldhuizen7887
@robinvanveldhuizen7887 Год назад
How is that even remotely fair? Not everyone has the time or desire to grind those campaigns. Why should WG give those people that are good at the game even more advantages?
@accelerationquanta5816
@accelerationquanta5816 Год назад
@@robinvanveldhuizen7887 Life's not fair. "Hur dur why should people who spend a lot of time and effort lifting weights get stronger so they can lift even bigger weights"
@robinvanveldhuizen7887
@robinvanveldhuizen7887 Год назад
Lol what are you talking about, how is that even remotely a good analogy? Indeed, spending a lot of time lifting will make you better at lifting weights than someone who doesn't, but you being capable of using bigger weights doesn't negatively impact someone else from lifting smaller ones. I agree, if someone spends a lot of time on something, they should be rewarded in some way, but imagine this. With your lifting analogy, let's say there is this new special weight, that only the strongest can use. But by using it, they have a negative influence on everyone in else in the gym, literally, for everyone else in the gym it is more difficult to get stronger while this one dude is using this weight. That is the difference with your weird as analogy, it isn't just a boon for those who get it, which I would be fine with if it was the case, it actively hurts those who don't have it. I'm fine with a powerful tank, but the obj279e right now has a 60% winrate, and while I accept that those who play this tank are on average better than those who don't, I highly doubt that the average winrate of all 279e players is 60%.
@judgedread9724
@judgedread9724 Год назад
As for the 279e. It is super good, but only against people who don't know how to pen it. There are many weak points to exploit when at close range, contrary to what quicky claims. You just need to know where to hit it and when to hit certain spot at given angles. Allot of times it IS a skill issue, not a tank issue. But without a doubt, the 279 is still super strong generally speaking. Some of these weakpoints granted, are hard shots. Also yeah. For your average CW player, from what I've seen. Everyone wants the 279e and Chieftain, but no one wants to actually play it. Because it winds up being all you do play. It's boring after awhile.
@Angel-vf4ik
@Angel-vf4ik Год назад
100% agree. Is more or less easy to fight against it when you know how. But people sit in front letting them farm their hitpoints. And chief out of a ridge line is a joke, very easy to pen in many places. And exactly what you said, where is the challenge in playing strong tanks? Good players get bored after some time. Me personally enjoy playing bad tanks and make them perform. Is much more rewarding (215b im looking at you 🤣)
@Donanzador
@Donanzador Год назад
Found the person that doesn't want their OP toy to be nerfed. These "weak spots" only exist with gold ammo, only on certain angles, and still aren't 100% certain to pen or stupidly hard to hit, unless you are at facehugging distance or have tier 10 TD pen. That's a joke, considering what an all purpose tank it is from other aspects as well.
@sheyrd7778
@sheyrd7778 Год назад
I remember when the Nerfed the Lowe credit making ability early on as well.
@benscarbro8079
@benscarbro8079 Год назад
I made myself ill trying to do my last 279e missions, and managed to get it last summer. I rarely use it in random battles, it's only used in stronghold and global map games. It definitely needs a nerf in firepower and mobility, like what they did with the kranvagn. They shouldn't touch the armour otherwise the tank will become irrelevant. Drop it's speed from 40 to 30, and take of 1 round per minute and the tank would feel like an is4
@moneymike3062
@moneymike3062 Год назад
I own both 279 and chief and while I do thoroughly enjoy them (who doesnt like playing THE best heavy tanks), I wouldn’t mind seeing them nerfed if it means the tech tree tanks can actually be competitive, especially in clan wars
@Spicilus
@Spicilus Год назад
I have the 279(e) and I think a good solution would be to change the MM rules for it. It's not a broken tank in T10 MM. In T8 MM however, it's just ridiculous.
@accelerationquanta5816
@accelerationquanta5816 Год назад
Tier 10 tanks and Tier 8 tanks should never encounter eachother, period.
@Fuse2501
@Fuse2501 Год назад
For me the biggest disadvantage of this tank is that more and more people have it through a setup or buy for real money. For me, the greater disgust is BZ 176. It still remains a bone in the throat.
@konstantinchernoskutov9030
@konstantinchernoskutov9030 Год назад
Not being able to use your hard earned vehicles in Ranked battles is already a huge nerf. These vehicles supposed to be The Best and hard to earn, and unless we will start seeing 3-4 vehicles in each game it's not even a problem. Yes I have both and I only play them in clan wars.
@jacobemry1018
@jacobemry1018 Год назад
Thank you QuickyBaby for making videos even when SickyBaby
@PussyBonpensiero
@PussyBonpensiero Год назад
Simple solution for WG, buff EVERYTHING! Make all Tier X's Great Again!
@Steamrick
@Steamrick Год назад
My team won against a platoon of 279e yesterday - we broke through the other flank and capped (lol). The flank on the side with the 279e platoon completely collapsed, surprising no one... and the enemy team had a case of 'no cap kill all' or something, that lost them the win.
@wdujsub7902
@wdujsub7902 Год назад
I am sure Peppy loves the new patch of Quickybaby's voice
@sunbear1310
@sunbear1310 Год назад
As a CW 279e enjoyer it is fine to nerf the 279e but you also need to nerf the Chieftain at the same time. CW/Advances would just turn into 15v15 Chieftains (or vice verse) if you nerf one and not the other
@julianlaustsen1991
@julianlaustsen1991 Год назад
there's no problem with the armor on the 279, as u see it gets penned in the front.
@tameu1309
@tameu1309 Год назад
I managed to penetrate a 279E from below with the FV4005 when he was tilting his tank up, I'm sure that he was really happy
@andibume
@andibume Год назад
i won't play again tier x until something is changed. my 32 tier x tanks were practically all nerfed after i got them. don't feel like playing this game anymore under these circumstances.
@Reaperunit206
@Reaperunit206 Год назад
Why not just buff the none premium tanks? It would still follow their rule of not nerfing the premium tanks but bring them closer in line with the rest.
@Dumlen
@Dumlen Год назад
The worst thing is that thing had an overmatchable plate underneath and they decided to buff it.
@Ausstral
@Ausstral Год назад
The voice is nice it reminds me of peter being sick but then later got a nice voice lmao. Anyways hope you are feeling better asap.
@mikeystevenson4832
@mikeystevenson4832 Год назад
Thank you for the video QB even when under the weather. Hope you're better soon. As a Chieftain player I would not mind much if WG did nerf it and the 279 e. I think they're op and need to be nerfed. Even if they nerfed them minorly just enough so they're not as good as they are now but still competitive like a 60tp or Amx M4 54. Thanks again for the video, get well soon mate!
@excelsian512
@excelsian512 Год назад
I think tanks such as the 279e should be limited to tier X matchmaking, bc let's be honest... no fk tier 8 tank can penetrate that thing reliably when it's heading straight towards you.
@nickrom11
@nickrom11 Год назад
279e and the Chief have had thier time. It's time to bring them down to earth.
@Calisota
@Calisota Год назад
I wouldnt mind every year at Christmas a full rebalance where EVERY vehicle gets a proper rebalancement if something got out of the hand over the year. That way you know that even if you got a stupidly overpowered vehicle, its only gonna be that statsfarmer until Christmas with the rebalancing. So you CAN abuse your OP tank a bit, but you have a proper functioning even ground at each start of the year.
@oinked
@oinked Год назад
I was going to suggest that it might be possible to balance these reward tanks by upping their mm, say, making the OP 279e a tier 10 only... That way they aren't actually changing the tank, just determining the opponent's... But seeing this I'm not sure if that's even a fix...
@tenkowal
@tenkowal Год назад
Remember when WG nerfed T-22? It was a reward vehicle which was also extremely hard to get. It was possible back then. There is no reason to keep Ebola in the state it is right now.
@tangalooma7257
@tangalooma7257 Год назад
I am having Deja Vue. I’m sure there was a similar announcement at the beginning of last year and the year before that and the year before that too!
@Patriot009
@Patriot009 Год назад
The console version tier 10 matchmaking is being decimated by the Centurion AVRE, a tier 10 medium with a 1400 damage HESH round and spaced armor added all over the front plates. You're getting games with 5-6 of these monsters on each team.
@accelerationquanta5816
@accelerationquanta5816 Год назад
I love it. Tier X is actually fun for once in that thing. All vehicles should feel fun and strong.
@Xation
@Xation Год назад
@@accelerationquanta5816 If all vehicles are strong, no vehicles are strong. Strength is relative.
@kc9602
@kc9602 Год назад
Sounding Rough AF, there, QB. Know how ya feel, dude!!
@BattlingBiatch
@BattlingBiatch Год назад
The problem is also in the gold rounds. In Armored Warfare for instance, all rounds are the same price, but apcr on a non manned turret does almost no damage for instance. Overpenetration as well. It requires knowledge. Wot requires a big wallet.
@dominikvachl8439
@dominikvachl8439 Год назад
0:06 I love how you look at the date to calculate your age :DDDD
@watercannonscollaboration2281
Damn QB, thanks for pushing out the video even sick. Definitely take some rest, we don’t want you to get more sick. As for the premiums, I mean, look at some of the tech tree tier 8s like the T69. I don’t know how Gaijin did it but I think for War Thunder there was a point where they decided they will balance premium tanks as well
@tenkowal
@tenkowal Год назад
WG was pretty good at balancing premium tanks long time ago. It wasn't a one time mistake, it was a financial decision to become greedy. I play for long enough to remember the controversy of releasing Cromwell B and Rudy 102 which were almost identical to the tech tree tanks, but the crews had 0 skill - this was the outrageous thing back then... immediately rendering crews you spent long time working on obsolete because in the long run it was better to reroll to a 0 BIA crew and start over. Can you imagine that the fact that those tanks were not worse than tech tree tanks was controversial as well? T-34-85 and Cromwell were popular in T6 skirmishes at that time, so it was a perfect opportunity to get more credits and not lock a crew in a tank for just skirmishes, I remember clan leader urging us to get one of them so better crews would be used in skirmishes. But the shit hit the fan when Skorpion G and Defender were introduced. That was the point WG stopped even trying to balance the new premiums and made them obviously better than anything before to make players pull their wallets out.
@henlo5378
@henlo5378 Год назад
The fact that the Obj 260 was one of the most overpowered tanks in the game when it was released alongside the Obj 279e, but it has been "balanced" by the release of new and better Clan Wars tanks and the fact that clan wars tanks are a lot more common than they used to be and now there is one in pretty much every other game. That tells you something about the state o the clan wars tanks. Not to mention if you see that the enemy team has a reward tank and your team don't, you really feel as if you are playing the game on "hardmode". If one tank can change how a player thinks the battle is going to develop that tank is clearly in a bad spot, either overpowered or underpowered and it needs to be addressed regardless of it being a reward/premium"tech tree tank.
@ossiosric6283
@ossiosric6283 Год назад
I have unlocked the 279e, but I didn't enjoy it ... yeah, it can bounce a lot with the front, but if the enemies load Heat, it's no longer a problem to pen it. Even with a turbo, it turns very slow and the side is weak. And on top of that, you have 5° of gun depression. I thing the Chief is way more better than the 279e ... But at the end of the day, I would recommend or like the idea, nerfing Premium/Reward tanks, because the gap between them an techtree tanks gets big and bigger ...
@lukaskapitan5553
@lukaskapitan5553 Год назад
Yesterday I met 3 Chiefs in platoon.. That’s something that should not be possible..
@klaabu99
@klaabu99 Год назад
it should be possible but waiting time for battle need to be really long
@jomama7500
@jomama7500 Год назад
Best Boris Johnson cosplay i've seen
@veselindimov307
@veselindimov307 Год назад
I think that what is needed for nerfing rewards and premium vehicles are baby steps. Here are some examples for specific tanks: BZ-176- make the roof armour from 41 to 40 so that 122 mm guns can overmatch in close quarters, 2 patches later make the pen on the HESH-ish rounds 180 and on the AP sth like 215 Chief - nerf the gun handling and enlarge the weakspot, 2 patches later nerf the rate of fire or the armour (but not both at once) T-34-85M - make it either a copy of the tech tree tanks, or leave it with higher rate of fire, but at the cost of mobility and/or gun handling Skoda T56 - reduce the Alfa damage to 400 or 420 (920 in 3.5s is just ridiculous); 2 patches later make the cupola a bit bigger or nerf the magazine reload a little leFH - either remove it completely and refund everyone who has it, or make its base reload speed 20s whilst not touching anything else Iron Arnie - reduce the amount of spaced armour to 30-40 mm, 2 patches later nerf the gold pen to sth normal for T8 mediums, say, 280 mm The list can go on and on - you can agree that all these steps are really small and none of them will either ruin the tank in question, or even change its playstyle - it will just make the tank better for the game. Thanks if you've red till the end! =)
@gerilac86
@gerilac86 Год назад
Nerfing gun handling of any tank is the last thing ever that should be touched. Gun handling, in general, contains so many RNG elements, that, whenever a tank is nerfed, by adding more RNG to it, it doesn't make it balanced, but just makes it frustrating to play. Like Progetto nerf now, that just kills the desire of players to play it. Nerfing armor and / or mobility, damage per shot, reload time etc... those are ok elements to change. Adding layer over layer over layer of RNG is not. It is boring, annoying, frustrating and the better player you are, the more you are hurt by RNG.
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