World of Warships - This Carrier is a citadel machine, forget about healing anymore

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Brand new German tier 10 CV is finally out so I can show you what this thing does.
Some carriers have AP bombs and that's nasty but this thing has AP bombs AND AP rockets + torps.
What kinda dmg does AP do? Citadel dmg. Can you heal citadel dmg? Mostly NO. Torps also count as cita dmg so this CV mostly does dmg you CAN NOT HEAL.
There is "counter play" which is angling but that is not exactly gonna be easy and possible every time.
Oh...it also can't get citadeled by itself so there's that.
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@MrYodolf 3 года назад

"If I can't kill the carrier - at least i can go for the russian ships." - I love you, mate! The most speccuhl Streamer :)

@Parpyduck 3 года назад

It was this statement that immediately earned my subscription.

@iberiksoderblom 3 года назад

When WG realises, that CV's harm Russian ships, things will happen...

@liamfreeman1812 3 года назад

Ib Erik Söderblom CVs are more important to them than Russian ships

@TheMachoManlyMan 3 года назад

"Da, comrade! Is why we're buffing the AA of all Russian ships!"

@Mii_Oh_Nine 3 года назад

German ones at that

@Rhyside 3 года назад

Wait for Russian CV and it will be really masacre.

@guvyygvuhh298 3 года назад

Yes! Buff every ruski ship with 200mm deck armor! And 500mm of citadel armor! And 110% torp protection

@domidomi917 3 года назад

CVs are balanced because you couldn't carry the team single- handedly. WG logic

@Sky_Guy 3 года назад

I get that CVs feel like cancer, but I don't understand people that want the RTS carriers to return. Those things could _literally one-shot Montanas,_ how is that somehow more fun than having functional AA? Their alpha was absolutely fucking bonkers!

@neogoterra 3 года назад

@@Sky_Guy According to some they would remove CVs entirely despite them being the most influential naval warship from 1930 onward.

@bernhardlangers778 3 года назад

@@Sky_Guy yes, a well played rts cv was a force to be reckoned with, but the skill required was also extreme.

@Kharnellius 3 года назад

Well to be fair, CVs basically DID single handedly carry the fleet. Once carriers became a reality, the era of battleships ended.

@user-jm8sy5ox2j 3 года назад

Wargaming: how can we make carriers even worse than they already are Result: German carriers

@nehcrum 3 года назад

And you haven't seen the russian carriers yet...

@xierus 3 года назад

You mean balansed?

@Derin7890 3 года назад

@@nehcrum well... you are in luck because they just got announced

@nehcrum 3 года назад

@@Derin7890 Well, dun dun Dun?

@nehcrum 3 года назад

@@Derin7890 I would like to claim that I'm psychic, but the simple truth is that I'm a cynic.

@henriqueduarte9774 3 года назад

Can't believe that before the cv rework Montana used to be a AA city that could handle 1 or 2 squadrons, now it only kills 1 or 2 planes of one squadron, I just can't believe it.

@assassinzakral7023 3 года назад

It's a fucking insult

@irotschopf7135 3 года назад

I went for the full AA Montana as my 3rd Tier X... Yeah I re-spec'd into something a little more... useful.

@sawyerawr5783 3 года назад

frankly its an Insult to the whole USN: American warships are a forest of AA guns and yet they can't so much as dent the airpower being thrown at them.

@guvyygvuhh298 3 года назад

Balans comrade, we make capitalist pigs and fascists weak so russian bias is the only viable choice! And CVs, bcz we love our special class, CVs, made so mentally disabled ppl can carry games without any risk

@neonlight1214 3 года назад

And the European DDs who have only 10% AA mounts of a Montana perform better.. Don't let me mention the sci-fi fantasy fairy tales soviet ships

@feanorn8409 3 года назад

I miss the pre 2019 state of this game... Yes, some things where already broken, but it was nowheere near this stupid shitfest it is now.

@beshtaa 3 года назад

wait for submarines then say again

@feanorn8409 3 года назад

@@beshtaa I will ;)

@xmlthegreat 3 года назад

@@beshtaa RIPPU

@sabrevanson4412 3 года назад

prior to 2019 build, CVs were dangerous, but, you could STOP them with right AA build ship. Now....if a CV wants you dead....youre dead. its that simple, you can be AA spec ALL the things, and CV says, "I want you dead today" you die.

@feanorn8409 3 года назад

@@sabrevanson4412 Add all the broken soviet Ships since Stalingrad to this and garbage like Odin on the other side. Damn this game went down the drain because of bias and stupid decisions. It as so good once :/

@Linkeh24 3 года назад

See, even all this wouldn't be so bad if AA was actually functional. The fact is that carriers leave practically no counterplay and no risk to self, so it makes sense that they should be countered by people willing to sacrifice some of their ship's own power to be practically immune to CV drops, kind of like how it was pre-update. But as it is, carriers get to strike basically who they want, where they want, when they want, unless the entire team decides to give up their entire map presence and roll up into a lemming ball.

@sawyerawr5783 3 года назад

even then it doesn't matter. unless you get good RNG and blap them with a flak burst the first strike always goes through.

@rekslegiune6004 3 года назад

Lets add 200AA power on all ships or lets make people play as a team, you know this is a team game? Ofc as a CV you can hit any 1 on map but you will lose planes, if they have some AA support around. That is why in war you need to have different weapons, to counter any situations.

@sawyerawr5783 3 года назад

@@rekslegiune6004 losing planes doesn't matter when they just regen. that's the problem. I can hammer his squadrons all day, but he'll keep getting planes back.

@imapopo2924 3 года назад

@@sawyerawr5783 This is exactly why my biggest complaint of the CV rework was the infinite planes. There is literally no lasting reason for them to not just fly through AA fire to get the strike off anyways. If they had reserves to worry about, they would be much more careful with them instead of yeeting planes at ships until they sink.

@sawyerawr5783 3 года назад

@@imapopo2924 One friend of mine suggested that the planes be shot down in reverse: IE the guys doing the attack run get shot at (why would the gunners engage the guys clearly not on an attack vector anyway?). and more to the point they don't get replaced when knocked out, so you actually can stop a strike.

@jefftuckercfii 3 года назад

2:40 Chat says that the carriers being essentially immune to each other's attacks solves the old problem of the CVs going after each other at the beginning of the game. How is this a problem? This is what carriers historically did! If you can overwhelm and kill off the enemy CVs you have control of the air and can attack with impunity, except for AA. Any other ships were targets of opportunity once the CVs were dealt with.

@Linkeh24 3 года назад

If you really wanted to split hairs, CVs shouldn't even exist in a surface combat game, because a force actually bringing a carrier to a surface combat engagement would be practically suicidal and was practically unheard of, for a number of reasons, here are two big ones: One, because a single fire almost always eliminated the entirety of the CV's strike capacity. Two, because the process of actually launching and coordinating a carrier-based air strike took nearly 45 minutes. Whereas battleships really could put out a salvo about every 30 seconds, the Wargaming carrier's ability to launch, recover, rearm, and repair is pure magic. So if you wanted to have CVs feel like they really should in a combat situation like this, they should only get 1 strike the entire match, and due to their extreme fragility, only a few hits should be enough to put them out of service.

@jefftuckercfii 3 года назад

@@Linkeh24 - Agreed, but we both know that's not going to happen. WG wants them, they're here whether we like them or not (I don't like 'em and don't play 'em) . Historically, there were carrier vs. carrier actions with the TFs being hundreds of miles apart, or there were surface actions. The only exception I'm aware of was at Leyte Gulf during the Battle off Samar when the Japanese surface group came back after Halsey was lured away by the decoy force of deplaned Japanese CVs. If they hadn't inexplicably turned around, they would have wiped out most of the three small task units that were left to defend and support the beachhead, including numerous small slow CVEs. If Halsey's 3rd Fleet had stayed home, the fleet carriers would have made fairly short work of the Japanese surface force with no air cover, because scouts would have spotted them much sooner.

@oj_furrylover8484 3 года назад

@@jefftuckercfii if speaking in history sense ship stick closer together right?

@ac4694 2 года назад

GW did this to make cvs "more popular" lowing to ground any skill requirements. Back it was way harder to operate the carrier. You could lose all the planes and do nothing. Now you can suicide spam planes because they got born on the board and repaired mid air.

@lrgpapa315 3 года назад

CV idea: Switching between your rocket/torpedo/dive bombers should have a relatively long delay to simulate the switching of armaments below deck. This idea is heavily inspired by Nagumo's dilemma in the Battle of Midway

@rikk319 3 года назад

If the game was more realistic, carriers would be even more OP, not less.

@toddkes5890 3 года назад

If you get a chance, check out the Battle of Midway - Japanese perspective - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Bd8_vO5zrjo.html

@imapopo2924 3 года назад

@@rikk319 Only to a degree. They would be more like the old system where they could do a shit ton of damage quickly, but making it too realistic would me the CV only gets 1-2 strikes off per match because launching/recovering planes takes time. These are the old WW2 straight flight deck carriers after all, not the modern super carriers that can launch and receive at the same time.

@rikk319 3 года назад

@@imapopo2924 Yes. Too much realism would make it a simulator, not a game. WW1 era battleships had a hit rate of something like 3% with their shells. Doesn't sound very fun.

@mariopalenciagutierrez4318 3 года назад

text book example of how farming dmg isn't the same as supporting your team. Sure, the dmg numbers look great, but the enemy CV hit where it mattered and helped the enemy team win by a landslide.

@neovee1780 3 года назад

You are correct, as a DD player, I like when CVs ignore me, and prefer to farm damage off BBs. Best CV players are generally spotting for everyone and picking off low health targets, doesn't help pad their score, but usually results in a win.

@rekslegiune6004 3 года назад

@@neovee1780 So true, just imagine playing shima, no 1 is sporting you.

@demosearies7591 3 года назад

Can't win... ther is an issue with HE spammers, so they introduce a line of CV's that punish them the most, but happens that helps break the game more.

@demosearies7591 3 года назад

@PumpkinCougar95 at least in Beta, my Cleveland could delete planes even in a full solid uptier..

@demosearies7591 3 года назад

@PumpkinCougar95 the planes used to run out as well.. those were the good old days.

@demosearies7591 3 года назад

@PumpkinCougar95 no, they have a regen timer.. if you dont language for a while when low, they regen back to full.

@markcostello5120 3 года назад

Note to WG; Everytime that Flambass was speaking highly of carriers, THAT WAS SARCASM.

@ringowunderlich2241 3 года назад

I'm not quite sure they understand the concept of sarcasm.

@sameerkharade7750 3 года назад

A squadron flying through 4-5 cruisers and BBs.. still survives. Amazing 😂

@ikman 3 года назад

Cant wait for the Russin ap torpedos

@sabrevanson4412 3 года назад

I was legit talking about this today with a friend. That i DREAD the arrival of the BALANS RU CVs....they will have MiG29s with Nuke rockets bombs, and torps

@flolilan 3 года назад

i was thinking about that for a while but I didn't want to write it because there will be a wargaming employee sitting like : " write that down write that down"

@robopup1 3 года назад

you forgot the wire guided with a sonar seeker

@neonlight1214 3 года назад

Can't wait till their torpedoes gonna actually citadel like these submarines.... Whole heavy cruiser can be deleted...

@estoyaqui5386 3 года назад

4:58 wrong angle of attack, reticle is all over the place, still doing triple-cita for 26.400 hp dmg - oh boy.

@RamonInNZ 3 года назад

People forget in WW2 especially the Pacific it was carrier hunt carrier, as the side with more carriers would dominate the skies both on land and at sea!

@Tscharny 3 года назад

CVs obviously working as intended! Just like all the rest of the "random" in RNG in this game.

@guvyygvuhh298 3 года назад

the F in RNG stands for fair and balanced

@silvaswat 3 года назад

If this is what german CVs are. i dread to think what russian CVs (Read paper CVs) will be like when they inevitably add them

@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 3 года назад

Probably crappy torps, and incredible bombers

@mrexists5400 3 года назад

inb4 ap torps

@garethfairclough8715 3 года назад

AP torps? Nah. Nuclear torps.

@silvaswat 3 года назад

@@garethfairclough8715 Guided nuclear torps like what the subs have just minus the ping mechanic*

@andrewduan5123 3 года назад

@@mrexists5400 AP torps, none of that capitalist shit, They drop full size Nuclear submarines obviously

@ewok40k 3 года назад

you get a citadel! and you! and him! citadels for everyone!

@anthrax2413 3 года назад

Getting focused by carrier is so much fun. You have so much counter play.

@anjayl 2 года назад

You don't get focused if you play the game right, eg : not being alone whilst playing a teambased game

@anthrax2413 2 года назад

@@anjayl aka, lemming train. Cuz how dare you try to create openings for your team. Team play for CV apologists means grouping up and doing the same shit every match.

@anjayl 2 года назад

@@anthrax2413 Don't blame the world for your lack of imagination. CVs also prevent the game from being stale by being able to go get those HE spammers tucked behind their precious islands, they spot subs and DDs, and it's a way more demanding gameplay than playing a surface ship. You just have to select target and aim. CVs must select target, work angle of approach, manoeuver through AA, dodge flak, spot, watch out for fighter bubbles, get hunt by subs and DDs, manage squadrons...

@anthrax2413 2 года назад

@@anjayl Don't blame DDs and HE spammers for your lack of imagination.

@anjayl 2 года назад

@@anthrax2413 Alright, I see you have some serious issues, it would be better if you could find a specialist to talk to.

@lonebriefcase 3 года назад

Was seeing all those smaller WoWS channels putting up their videos on this ship and was wondering when this one would show up and here it is

@thebudgieadmiral5140 3 года назад

Fun fact, the "torpedo" that the Ta-152s are carrying... That's a guided anti-ship missile.

@guvyygvuhh298 3 года назад

wtf? rly? thats actually interesting might check it out later

@thebudgieadmiral5140 3 года назад

@@guvyygvuhh298 I think so, I have one slung under an Ar 234 kit of mine.

@guvyygvuhh298 3 года назад

@@thebudgieadmiral5140 yeah they actually look way too strange to be torps but you know wg doesnt care TA-152s high alt interceptor? Nah lets make it a torp bomber Anti ship missiles? Nah, lets make them torps

@jm1695 3 года назад

There are people who think its wrong to target CV, there is something very wrong with those people. Only good CV is one in a different game.

@liamfreeman1812 3 года назад

J M well I mean if you target Enemy CV your team reports you about 10 times cuz ya didn’t help them with the dds etc...

@jm1695 3 года назад

@@liamfreeman1812 Really? Any time I've abused or targeted CV my Karma skyrockets

@armastat 3 года назад

Lol all about how 'safe it is', as he totally doesn't hear the torpedo beats of the 8 torps that just missed his carrier, lol.

@swirvinbirds1971 3 года назад

Join the rest of the ships... Happens all the time. So tough that at 1 point in the game he almost didn't dodge torpedoes... 😒

@Crimson34533 3 года назад

...Oh how I DON'T miss playing this game

@rikk319 3 года назад

...but you enjoy watching someone else play it? Why put yourself through the torture? Or do you come for the sarcasm and complaints?

@Crimson34533 3 года назад

@@rikk319 I occasionally look at the circus, but I'm not a frequent

@rikk319 3 года назад

@@Crimson34533 I can understand that.

@peterlanisch5912 3 года назад

@@rikk319 it is just captivating to realize about how fucking hard they fucked a game that started with such an huge potential. And not by accident, but rather greed based decisions. Still astonished what kind of arrogance let WG implement a ship like the Smolensk - in 2019, when the meta was already broking thx to cv rework.

@etdizzle10 3 года назад

One of the most annoying UNfixes WG did to CVs was the heavy nerf bat to AA. I thought it was appropriate that CA/CL without torpedoes had massive AA at high levels (and certain DD's could defend themselves well). They NEEDED it. But to make ALL AA worthless is pathetic.

@phoenixtalon100 3 года назад

You know what i'd do? I'd double the detection range of carriers. Thinking about it more, maybe - whenever the carrier's self-defense squadron is in the air, that can be detected and used to triangulate the approximate position of the carrier from half the map away - that way even if the ship itself isn't spotted, you can at least attempt to engage with a chance of success.

@sarinhighwind 3 года назад

the infinite planes is what bothers me about new carriers as well.

@the_0dd_urca139 3 года назад

TN DISC SPORTS I wouldn’t be too bothered about the cv rework if the carriers had limited planes. They are already a bitch to kill with AA, and by having no limits to plane cap is just annoying and is pushing me from the game

@sarinhighwind 3 года назад

@@the_0dd_urca139 yeah, the old ones had a cap, which made you play wiser with your planes, this new system of who cares and shitty AA is just. meh.

@likebotting784 3 года назад

imagine if this thing had Tirpitz torpedos

@deus3x236 3 года назад

I remember that game, but didn't realise it was flambino doing the bullying.... was in the zao. it was such a fun and engaging game -.- wasn't really getting into doing much, each time i tried to do something or get into position flambino made sure i don't ;P

@Dumb-Comment 3 года назад

I need the old CV gameplay, I'm addicted to it I need it to live!

@Steelshadow104 3 года назад

To be honest I'm for this, fuck rocket planes, I always wanted to get good at RTS, and AA was actually something to fear then. The only time it was broken was when you played dumb or the CV was actually good

@ZirconX1 3 года назад

No ammount of carrying can help certain teams win. That much I have learned in a few years of this game. Always depresses me when I see a unicum get confederate, high caliber, dreadnought, fireproof and close quarters expert on a german secondary build BB all the whilst ending up with 2 solo caps and a bunch of cap resets and yet the team still manages to pull off a loss. It is as if some people do their very level best to lose games. Like that is what they are going for. Playing so bad they lose it for everybody. Sigh.

@sabrevanson4412 3 года назад

I have BEEN that BB captain....=(

@A5M1TH 3 года назад

@@sabrevanson4412 Dreams are wonderful yeah?

@rikk319 3 года назад

Some players suck, their learning curve is almost flat, and glide through hundreds of matches to end up at Tier X and still can't grasp angling, scouting, or working as a team.

@guvyygvuhh298 3 года назад

Thats why I dont rly play the game, I am too big of a potato to help my team win xd

@sabrevanson4412 3 года назад

@@A5M1TH Dream? no, I have done that in a BB. Still watched my team fail and stay passive too afraid to get in the battle. I have been the brawling BB german sec build getting achs, caps and scouting while my team sits in the back. Its the current state of the game. Too passive. WG introduced broken CV mechanics, HE spam, and ships like Slava and Thunderer that all promote back line play.

@isaiahwilleford4618 3 года назад

After watching the fdr games watching this Carrier it feels so sped up

@IndyBrainWave 3 года назад

"Is this the channel for old dudes? I want to improve my torpedo beats." He's thinking of Jingles, Flambass. ;)

@Moltenbramley 3 года назад

That Yamato (Sakalovo) was shocking!

@combatmuffin3192 3 года назад

WG: Nerfs 25k alpha on Hak Wg: next patch adds a cv with 26k alpha

@tschileo2136 3 года назад

and a "nice" german function for them: haku has 75% land a bomb into inner circle, and manf has 50%. (if the value wasn't changed since last time saw them

@13stalag13 3 года назад

Flambass, the master of sarcasm!

@droidmotorola3884 3 года назад

the way they balance this ship is they put you in a team with potatoes so is "fun and engaging" to carry your team 🙃

@Brimestar 3 года назад

So much truth in what you said. Sarcasm was on point.

@mystier3423 3 года назад

As a Zao main, it scares me.

@gabysse 3 года назад

It sure will make the next ranked season META veeeeeery awkward.

@BinnyBongBaron_AoE 3 года назад

I didn't even know that Kurfurst could take a citadel.

@Korhanne 3 года назад

they should just add guided missiles at higher tiers.

@robopup1 3 года назад

that would so cool. :) The Germans did have radio guided bombs

@boomhaueroo8703 3 года назад

It will happen eventually. And the game will continue its downward trend.

@Korhanne 3 года назад

@FBI yeah, and then they'll nerf the german battleship's accuracy just for good measure. and possibly turn them into rowboats.

@guvyygvuhh298 3 года назад

imagine "fire and forget" anti ship missiles with 50km range

@007mrchek8 3 года назад

Although carriers are "over-powered", they have the lowest win rate among the four types. They can do constant damage no matter what ships they face, but they cannot carry your team, if your teammates are potatoes.

@guvyygvuhh298 3 года назад

Imagine CVs being able to cap just by having planes in the cap A good CV player would have 80-90% win rate

@shimpoopimpoo7643 3 года назад

that Yamato unicorn doe

@tedd9621 3 года назад

My Sov. Soyuz got targeted by the Richthofen yesterday with exclusive AP bombs. The damages done by the AP bombs left nothing for healing which as you state in your title -- no point to have healing items.

@Alex-hy9cw 3 года назад

Had a friend with a manfred on their team doing 291k, 31 cits, must be close to WR?

@Parpyduck 3 года назад

I expect the inevitable Soviet CV line will feature 406mm Gatling secondaries, torpedo immunity and supersonic jets that drop actual black hole gravitational singularities that devour everything within a chosen square of the minimap.

@EmeraldNep 3 года назад

That Yama being 4th on the team speaks more about the rest of your team than it does the Yama. Haven't played this game hardly at all over the past few months except for low tier stuff with friends just getting into the game. I see nothing has changed. WG please buff the playerbase.

@DDayJayke 3 года назад

Old dudes and torpedo beats??? That's Jingles Channel!!!

@Jedisherm 3 года назад

This is why i stick mostly to coop. Where you can still have fun and blow shit up.

@Oniom3 3 года назад

You missed 1 very important thing there. When You slow down during rocket plane attack, You' ll hit more cits and deal more dmg overall + rockets can cit every ca/cl on t10 for now.

@TheDeathJesters1337 3 года назад

WG : We won't add AP rocket, that would be toxic Also WG : This video

@Tom55data 3 года назад

I was in a game (as tier 8 carrier in tier 10 game), where the other carrier spotted me and flew in circles to keep me spotted as I spawned on one side. Then 2 BB's in his division (Yamato and another) sunk me in 2 shots each as the map was small and they could fire across the map. A way to delete a carrier at the beginning of the game.

@Dyx_DeTcTBa 3 года назад

Never heard of Yuro, didn't you?

@estoyaqui5386 3 года назад

@@Dyx_DeTcTBa haha thats what came to my mind xD

@the_0dd_urca139 3 года назад

Glupi Medo same here. He unknowingly ran into the legend himself

@rekslegiune6004 3 года назад

CV sniping ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rPD-9PKUb2I.html

@certifiedgiggledog 3 года назад

If this ship only played like the graph Zeppelin

@SmokeJam 3 года назад

You gotta see it that way: German bomber don't perfom on stationary targets. Thats too easy, like practise... But moving targets? Oh baby "Die Luftwaffe ist hier!" (Richard Wagner "Die Walküre" starts playing)

@colbychapman9151 3 года назад

The Carrier is countered by the team. Ours or the enemies.

@EvoraGT430 3 года назад

Every video reinforces my decision to quit this game. It used to be great, but is beyond saving now. No idea how guys like Flambass and Flamu can put up with this crap day in , day out.

@moonik665 3 года назад

When you're doing everything in your power to mitigate damage from CV, you get punished. What do you not understand?

@sleepygryph 3 года назад

Maybe the rockets skipped into the gearing? Kinda like the old way you could force all the bombs to hit a DD?

@guvyygvuhh298 3 года назад

Nah they just went tru enough armor to arm

@frankenstein303 3 года назад

lol watching all the streamers talk about CVs like this reminds me why the carrier was a turning point in navel battle lol

@andrewadami3920 3 года назад

In that sense, it's very historically accurate. CVs defined naval battles after their inception.

@Gopnik57 3 года назад

Ngl, the thing that buggers me the most is that the German CV's got high alt. interceptors as attack aircraft..

@avgjoegaming8271 2 года назад

I was working when this was introduced but now it feels like its lost its op factor. I mean it might be on the better half of cvs but fdr mvr and haku still dominate

@superboys99 3 года назад

Seems like CV power 1 : 0 German bias this time lol

@orangedream267 3 года назад

I actually think they're slightly weaker overall than the others. Except at T8. Main issue is lack of anti DD weapons, it's basically your rockets and torps, and both require the DD to sail in a straight line.. Your planes are INSANELY squishy. At T10 the Audacious planes have something like ONE THOUSAND more HP. Even Hakyu beats them by 200-400 HP, not to mention the insane camo IJN torp planes have. You trade speed and striking power for HP and damage reliability in these things. You NEED to aim well or position well at the least to get your damage out. Audacious, and Midway can do the same thing this thing does with LESS care for angling.

@superboys99 3 года назад

@@orangedream267 but don't forget almost all the other CVs received a change in the dispersion circle in 097 which highly reduce the damage they can do to angled DDs. Which makes German CV not too shabby in terms of hunting destroyers ( since we all know mainly is the spotting mechanics of Carrier fucks the DDs) Besides haku's dive bombers alpha damage have been nerfed a couple times so when we talking about the damage value and potential, the Germans are on the of the game tbh.

@stevepeterson6070 3 года назад

Just wait until russian CVs come out.

@rh4267 3 года назад

In the beginning I played CV’s I would use my Cleveland to protect my CV and I would get 2 -3 kills doing it but no reward but I was helping my team. Now CV play means Destroyers are impossible at level 10 and the game now is only BB’s for me.

@estoyaqui5386 3 года назад

Sadly true. DD-/crusier main here, but switching to BBs lately. By far the easiest class to play and perform in.

@Tasukete_22 3 года назад

I was a DD/CL main but now iam a super unicum CV main 😛

@wolf986 3 года назад

I was in a match where one of these took out my Republique with ONE squadron. Thanks Wargaming. I dont understand the point of having these

@anjayl 2 года назад

Punish noobs who sail alone.

@alextonev3017 3 года назад

At least midway sets fires which can be 80% repaired

@rikk319 3 года назад

Funny how carriers are complained about as being so powerful, with minimal risk because they stay out of range of surface artillery...and yet that's why battleships and cruisers are now obsolete in reality. They're superior ships in reality, but in an MMO they have to be incredibly nerfed just to have a semblance of balance in this type of game. I play all classes of ships in WoWS, and enjoy them all. I don't have complaints...if I did, I'd play something else. I wish Wargaming would make a CV-less battle choice, so the rest of us could hear less whining about them, and just play in peace.

@guvyygvuhh298 3 года назад

no that would be smart from wg, you know they are a bunch of disabled drunk apes ans cant balance anything, if its german, it sucks, if its russian, its way too strong, unless your a Khaba or Trashkent, if its a CV its god tier And its just stupid how WG made CVs have infinite planes, almost non existent fire duration (5 sec from 40-45 sec), planes can no take off if the flight deck is on fire, that used to be the case only if you took the perk Wg buffed CV from being good but only if you know how to play them to borderline overpowered and broken for no real reason

@solanine6452 3 года назад

I love seeing German CVs as a destroyer. They can barely do anything besides spotting me.

@cablebyakuya1486 3 года назад

The Fdr ruines games for the enemy CV too. I saw that tonight

@isemiaousia 3 года назад

How

@cablebyakuya1486 3 года назад

@@isemiaousia 50 sap rockets or a 8 torp drop hurt CVs too.

@jaywerner8415 3 года назад

well, at least the Luftwaffe is historically accurate in this footage.

@forcea1454 3 года назад

In what way? None the aircraft in this game were grounded due to lack fuel, and none of the pilots were green trainees as a result of the Luftwaffe using all of their instructors to pilot transport aircraft that were shot down supplying Stalingrad and Tunisia.

@jaywerner8415 3 года назад

@@forcea1454 fine, the Luftwaffe BEFORE hitler did a big dumb move.

@daphoenix9330 3 года назад

6:04 why tf does the torps on the planes look ap like....

@NeoClarkson 3 года назад

"trying to be nice guy ended being an asshole... story of my life" me too flambass me too....

@mrexists5400 3 года назад

many many people: "carriers are bad for the game!" war gaming: makes carriers even worse

@lost4356 3 года назад

atleast before it mitigated by high skill floor but now!

@Notmyname1593 3 года назад

maybe they heard: "carriers are bad in this game"

@fakulm1436 3 года назад

I've lost some braincells while watching those "Teamworks"...

@konstantinkurtz9346 3 года назад

just dodge as a BB like every DD learns in primary school

@Sombody123 3 года назад

18:12 Clearly Slava needs a buff or two.

@Dcarp7 3 года назад

Are you insane!?!?

@Sombody123 3 года назад

@@Dcarp7 Calm down, it's just a joke. ...just like WG is. You know what, don't calm down. They might actually do it.

@Dcarp7 3 года назад

@@Sombody123 Knowing WG, they actually might. Then the joke is on them. Hehehe. But, I figured you were joking too.

@gotafarmyet4691 3 года назад

The Yama did well because 5 players died on your so fast that him just being alive gave enough points. I cannot wait until the next clan battle when it will be 7 vs 7 carriers

@siriusczech 3 года назад

could be fun to see CV only battle - like 4v4 or even 7v7, expecially in T4, but in any tier to be honest. Same with BBs only. Or better - only CVs and DDs, combined as liked. Would be really interesting.

@BlazeTim88 3 года назад

This is the exact reason I quit this game. It's just unfun gameplay, I'll decide to spend my money on another game that provides non frustrating experience.

@Gmanxxx1214 3 года назад

Please watch an instructional video on how to setup green screen lighting. C'mon man!

@cobrazax 3 года назад

GK cant kill u as u got turtleback too...

@Steelshadow104 3 года назад

10:58 please tell me the can sense the sarcasm. Don't let them believe this is okay

@007mrchek8 3 года назад

so my point is cv needs a change, not a nerf

@aryakaushik3633 3 года назад

Thats a Thom Browne carrier

@dany1441 3 года назад

Et tu, Flambass?

@HappyJoyKill 3 года назад

How many carries could a carrier carry , if a carrier could carry carries?

@zsoltlang2144 3 года назад

carriers are balanced if we are talking about japanese carriers, tbh japanese needs some buff, like 3 plane attack run for its torpedo bombers

@Tasukete_22 3 года назад

Plz no, i already dumpster everything and have 80% win rate in Hakuryu

@Nightrider370 3 года назад

Only class in the game that can citadel G.K... :'D

@madeinddr5579 3 года назад

Bullshit

@Dyx_DeTcTBa 3 года назад

It can be done: 1) by BBs at maximum ranges with spotter (the more mortar-like ballistics the better), 2) cruisers with high penetration in CQB and in specific angles (under the 1&4 turrets), 3)by carriers with AP bombs with high enough penetration, 4) (technically) with every ship, that have torpedoes, 5) with every ship with AP rounds and enough penetration while GK is on maximal turn

@Nightrider370 3 года назад

@@Dyx_DeTcTBa Yeah I know.. Was joking. Still think they're the most consistent way to citadel G.K

@I_OptimusPrime 3 года назад

Happens only in world of warships

@cedric1731 3 года назад

Now I think old CVs were really balanced...

@shellshocked9571 3 года назад

Bring Back Old Carriers?

@captturnip6020 3 года назад

Those were way worse as far as game balance goes

@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 3 года назад

Ah yes. Pure RNG

@tramachi7027 3 года назад

@@captturnip6020 I trade balance for frustration any day...Also the new Carriers are still broken as shit. Just a different kind of broken now. Now its not the: "Can single handedly carry a team"-broken but the: "completely fucks over the balance and gameplay of all the others ships. They literally dont fit into the game mechanics all the other classes need to rely on and completely shit on that"-broken And I rather give players the ability to carry the game single handedly than what we have now. Since the new CVs I havent played (Because AA got useless, lots of AA-botes became laughing stocks) and ofcourse some other changes (Glorious Soviet Navy aswell as Gamemechanic changes)

@kappsa5365 3 года назад

or make AA good again

@captturnip6020 3 года назад

@@tramachi7027 If you don't play then you can't say anything. I have ZERO issues playing vs current CVs. It's called adapt to having a CV in your game and don't run off alone. That's the only time they can be called OP is vs a single ship.

@GruulFleury 3 года назад

New to the game but I prefer AA heavy ships to matter more so seeing strong carriers doesn't bother me as much. The comments about AA having been nerfed are more worrisome.

@jadeasereht4638 3 года назад

They need to decrease rocket power and I crease AA damage

@KaguyasBeat 3 года назад

I know that feeling. Doing everything in your power to win but still losing. Everyone has bad games and sometimes that happens cuz they just end up in a bad position, smart decision or not. But my god is it annoying to have several games where you play very well but still lose every single time. Then you got that one guy bitching in game chat or trying to bark out orders to the rest of the team after they got killed very fast and oh sure enough they're bottom of the scoreboard.... This community sometimes I swear. I love this game but it takes a special kind of patience to keep loving it, all the broken to OP mechanics on it, all the way to some people just being retarded clowns and whatnot. Hard for me to get on just wanting to have a fun time cuz I know i'll probably be pissed when i'm done lol.

@Matthew10950 3 года назад

I feel you, man. 140 k dmg in a fiji, 2 solo caps, 3 kills. I look up to find the other flank has no friendly ships left and all red is pushing toward me through the center cap. I spent my whole game buying my team time to finish the flank where they had a numerical advantage and win the game. Nope, they folded like a hooker on laundry day and it was another loss for me.

@Matthew10950 3 года назад

Or the game before that on estuary in a north carolina: move to the flank with four other ships. They are all dead in three minutes, I spend the next five kiting away from a heavy push. Guy in chat pinging me on the map saying he needs my help, telling me to get in the game. I'm alone against half the enemy team getting defended flags while running away. The rest of my team? Being held away from the enemys base by a lone dd. Another loss for me.

@KaguyasBeat 3 года назад

@@Matthew10950 Geez that is annoying. especially having to kite out of there so maybe, you can actually get a chance to counter with support from the rest of the team. Of course that one asshat thinks you're not doing anything but of course he doesn't see the situation from your perspective. Had a situation kinda like that in Colorado. Playing on Trap team got deleted up North and I was having to kite for the entire rest of the game which of course I won't get anywhere. A Fuso decided he would follow me all the way into spawn and even the damn carrier was flying all the way across the map just to attack me. It was a trash experience and I ended up being number 2 on my team with around 70-80k damage. Got like two good salvos off on broadside ships that was it. Strangely tho, Vladi on my team understood the situation and said it was the best thing I could do. Need more people like him who can reason lol. Yea lost that game to.

@kizune3322 3 года назад

First time i feel bad for a stalin's player :(

@donwanna3906 3 года назад

You're wondering why a bomb will miss on a perfect run. Silly man, it's German, so the dispersion gets you! xD

@STYX3WS 3 года назад

Manfred von Rekthofen?

@fatseadoggo1017 3 года назад

Flambass's teammates where probably 7 yr olds playing on their 16 yr old brother's pc

@TallulahSoie 3 года назад

My god can you imagine when subs are introduced. I've seen so many people say they've quit because of carriers.

@DaManBearPig 3 года назад

those cry babies can go fucking cry and leave, before the rework a CV could determine the outcome of an entire game single handily, instantly nuke a ship out of the match effortlessly, and were largely very boring to play Notice all the people who bitch about CVs havent played them themselves? Its because they dont understand how they work.

@xmlthegreat 3 года назад

@@DaManBearPig two things can be bad at the same time. RTS CVs sucked ass but the rework is shit as well. The CV gameplay is really really boring and the shipside interaction is garbage. Either AA kills everything or you can do literally nothing in a DD as half your health vanishes in a puff of smoke.