The fact that Ronaldo da Costa had the audacity to *cartwheel* after breaking the WR by 45 seconds is ridiculous, just as ridiculous as that cameraman missing the whole thing.
@@jamestremblett1875 Definitely. The similarities between the two are striking (same age, same country, similar potential, and a tragic and unexpected death). I was a bit surprised that Wanjiru wasn't mentioned in the video (or did I miss it?), but I guess it's a video about the marathon WR, and Wanjiru sadly never got the chance to break that.
George Best retiring at 27 (drinking away half that time), Seles getting stabbed on court coming into prime.... there are so many who missed with war years, boycotts and injuries too.
This is a fantastic video. the history of marathon and marathon race records is not something you really think about much. thanks for putting this together.
My running coach just died on a layover to europe, and when I heard right now about Kelvin Kiptum it reminded me of my coach and how we never know what life is gonna through at us 😪rest in peace to them both.
I knew nothing about marathon runners and their records before watching this. That last part hit me hard. I got all excited for Kiptum’s potential, before that ending knocked me down.
Thank you for this wonderful video! It’s fascinating how running the marathon at a competitively fast distance is so difficult, even for top talent-almost more of a struggle than a 50k ultra marathon, with an expectation of a slower pace (and usually on trail).
just stumbled across this page..youtube suggested videos got one right this time!! EXCELLENT DOCUMENTARY!! RESEARCHABLE INFO!! well done..going to binge watch these...
Nothing to do with WRs, but you mentioned in the beginning that some people enjoy competing in multiple marathons a year. That reminded me of Slovakia's Zdeno Chara, a 24-year NHL (hockey) veteran who, in a 12-month stretch from April '23 to April '24, completed EIGHT marathons. His PB of 3 hours, 11 minutes, and 4 seconds came from his most recent race at London '24, just 6 days after he ran the '24 Boston Marathon. What's even more impressive is that he stands at an insane 6'9", weighs 256 pounds, and is at the age of 47. That's pretty neat! 😎🆒️
Excellent video. One slight omission in not covering the pro circuit times from 1908-1912; which were not only years ahead of IAAF-approved amateur times, but were set on more reliably measured and non-point-to-point courses. (Due to being run on indoor tracks, which were much easier to measure than a long and sprawling road course. Technically they were slightly short of today's full distance due to a quirk in how American tracks were measured prior to WW1, but road courses in that era could be off by a lot more.) RIP Kiptum :(
people who has never ran a marathon or even a half marathon won't understand how impressive it is to even complete one in those stiff and ultra-thin shoes in the 20th century. Nowadays even the cheapest running shoes have at least a good chunk of midsole/outsole and is pretty comfortable to run, the shoes back then barely had any shock absorbing midsole.
So why was the chicago course suddenly legal for the recent records, was it changed to be longer? that part didn't seem to be covered in the video, otherwise a very entertaining watch :).
When does he say it wasn't legal? It might have not been before 1984 before they held the Olympics there and really opened it up to international athletes, it doesn't specify. I thought the 3 records that were set at Chicago were all ratified
@@brandonm8901 Well I guess im asking why the more recent records were ratified, when he gave the reasoning that the older records weren't ratified because the course was too fast.
@@klooger28 I'm asking which records at Chicago weren't ratified because I can't find in the video where he says there were any. The three records set at Chicago have all been verified
I'm not a runner, but these videos are awesome. Dumb question: what percentage of serious runners run a whole marathon without walking periodically? The best I've ever done is running 19 minutes or so without stopping.
"Serious runners" as in competitive/high level athletes, almost all of them - unless they blow up because of a bad racing strategy - but if you just mean people that enjoy running and do it almost every day, a lot of them wouldn't be equipped to take on a full marathon
Amazing times, before most of the science behind how to prepare, before gels, with poor shoes. Puts the influencers today to shame for pushing the "you need these gels, and these specific shoes" etc etc.. Just get out there and run.
@RunnerBoi your next video should be the WR progression for the 10,000m. You have done the 5,000m, mile, and now the marathon. How about the 25 lap race?
I have seen no evidence to suggest that the Rotterdam course on which Derek Clayton ran his 2:08:33 was short. Jim Alder, Bob Moore and other world-class marathoners were in that race and none ran faster than their seasonal best on that day.
as a finnish person, we all good but you pronouncing that finnish name kinda sounds like a finnish man 15 vodkashots deep trying to do the same xdd much love though, really great video! ❤ edit: oh no I should have realized there would be more xdd my language is just fucked to pronounce
The commentary on this documentary is wrong. When Steve Jones from Wales broke the world record marathon time in the 1984, it was not his marathon debut. Why don't you people do your homework first instead of just uploading a program that is not the facts. Steve Jones had run a previous marathon and he had to retire with a foot injury after I think 15 miles.
I stated that he pulled out of the same marathon the year before due to an ankle injury, and that it was specifically his "proper *full* marathon debut", signifying it was his debut in the sense that he had recorded an official mark in the event instead of a halfway-ish DNF. It's an important clarification to make imo for the video and you either glossed over it entirely, or just misunderstood my wording. Also for future reference, no one likes it when you try to give what are seemingly innocuous corrections to people in this type of tone, especially for a video that's an hour long.
Quite disappointed that this video didn't include any mention of women's marathon records. I expected more from this channel. Very well done video and high quality. But disappointed as this perpetuates gendered biases towards sports.
My main answer is that there's just not enough history to fill a 30-40+ minute window that these WR progression vids normally require for women's distance running. Women's distance running (5000m and up) didn't become legitimately competitive until the 70's, and for the marathon it took as late as the 80's until women like Grete Waitz and Joan Benoit basically inspired an entire generation of fast female marathon runners; something I covered on this channel already. For the steeplechase, it wasn't even until the 90's until women could do that event in general! Not to mention the point of these vids in particular is to cover the fastest times in *general* which ofc are performed by men. WR Progressions aside though, my entire vid catalog is a pretty healthy/near-50/50 gender split, so... *shrug*
Personally it think it could all be fixed by just having the title say "men's marathon records" Great vid! But I do wish the women's marathon could get some coverage
