You can tell he was told to say that.. lol ! This is hilarious. People thought behringer was coming to save the day lol ! The brass on this sounds like wet bumble bees drenched in chorus😂.
@@henrikgerlach4765 I actually own Behringer products you simp.. I also don't lie to myself. But more power to you. If you think this sounds amazing and want to purchase. it .. Enjoy !! heck I will even throw in $50 cash to help you pay for it. God forbid someone has an opposing opinion that isn't fueled by consumerism and G.A.S. ...sheesh. fan boys are the worst.
@@Leviathan-mj8gi well yeah for sure. But you can still SELL stuff without ridiculous hyperbole. Because shops need credibility, no? I'm less inclined to buy something from somewhere if they don't come across as genuine in their promo material.
Crappy sound... just a miserable clone of one of the best synth of history, the Obx8 just released is a ferrari or porsche and is the true legacy like the ob6... The vst opx2 sound 1000x better than this behringer crap ...
The Demo at whole is actually not a very good representation of what people look at for the Oberheim sound. The sounds used and selected are actually not able to show of, what the OB is known for at all. Esp the Vintage modes have a pretty wrong sound for that demonstration. It is also funny that Jacks talks about "playing some PADs" now and not actually playing them to justice (very short notes for instance). That will not demonstrate a PAD well. I normally like Jacks videos, but this is just not good for this Synth. It does not demonstrate its strength and we simply cannot find out if it is up to the job or not. This very generic sounds could have been done on any analog synth (for instance even the Deepmind could do them). Also if you have a Pad sound .. play long notes please. A Pad sound has not a hart attack and is long playing chords .. not single notes, not quick chords or anything like that. So maybe you want to look at some real OB-Xa videos (check out Matt Johnson's video on it) and then please redo the demo again with proper selected sounds. The first kind of Oberheim sound is coming at 20:10 minutes.
@@higgy7762 not really. I have a Wasp and think it’s great. I just love how Oberheim have completely stolen the show with the new OB. This clone seems lame in comparison.
@@patrizio7 sorry, I appologize :) But maybe we should not use this vid as 'reference'. Until now, every clone B made was soundwise 'near perfection' - rather within 'build tolerances' of the old analog devices than a 'fail'. It seems B staffed good engineers ;) I'd wait with judgement until the Uli-XA is available in the showrooms (if ever....)
I'm waiting for other examples to hear this synth, but if it really does sound like demonstrated here, this will be a hard pass for me, as it doesn't sound like an OB (which is secondary for me) and it doesn't sound nice, as an instrument (which is primary for me). But overall, this is a terrible demo, and not much can be objectively deduced from it, so I'll wait for someone else to do a better demonstration of this highly anticipated synth to better understand what the instrument is all about.
If you listen to this with headphones it quickly becomes apparent that the majority of this demo was done with the unit in 'stereo' mode because the individual notes played (not chords) all alternate between being panned hard left or right and IMO that's what makes the audio sound 'off.' Panning individual voices in the stereo field is an Oberheim feature - it just seems over the top in this production unit. I'm still super excited to get my hands on one of these but in the years we've been waiting I've fallen completely in love with my VST's of Sonic Projects OP-X and u-he's DIVA. I love Jack's videos for the channel - always positive and entertaining. Can't wait to run this thing through my Strymon Mobius / GFI Specular Tempus / Source Audio Collider. Cheers fellow synth lovers.
I think it's a phase issue with the channels. I've had this issue in stereo going from L & R mono into a single sum input. Basically it sounds thin and shit like this.
@null Why is the OB-x8 crap? Just your opinion, because it’s not your taste? Personally I buy synth to play them and not as an investment object. I think the Moog One is cool, but too expensive and too ‘modern’ sounding for my taste. But everybody has different tastes. I do like my Moog Voyager, which has been reliable for 20 years now. I do know there have been issues with the Moog One, so if it will be a great long term investment remains to be seen.
Litterally nothing else because this UB-Xa is not available, and probably won't be for several months still... But that OB-X8 is 3 times the price of this.
A hard “no”. Behringer are again milking 80s vintage fantasists. If you just want to pretend you have an Oberheim, this has the paint job. For the Oberheim sound, use the Arturia plugin. If you want a hardware Oberheim, spend a little more and get a real Sequential OB6 or get the Oberheim OBX8.
sounds extreme bad sorry, sounds like Digital not Analog. I love the OB series and the OB-X8 cost too much i hope Behringer get closer to the OB sound.
From the very beginning of the video, it sounded strange to me... EVEN THE BASS?? The demos from a year and a 1/2 ago sound WAAAY better Hopefully Jack had an issue with recording it or something... What the hell happened?
Never got that wow moment at any point in the video. Not even close. Did they spice up last year's video in post? Hmm. Sadly, most of all, this seems bought. The words and interactions seem faked. Especially the comment of this being the fattest, best sounding synth in this room. Come on. There is something fishy going on if you have to fake it like that. Hoping Behringer takes these reactions to heart and give it a bit more work
To me, this sounds nothing like an Oberheim. I have owned 5 OB’s through the years. Need to hear more of this, but first hearing is a definite miss in my book!
I heard an earlier demo from one of the beta testers and it sounded so warm and full. This demo sounds thin and crunchy, either behringer broke something in one of their revisions, or this Andertons demo has some issues in the recording chain / gain staging. 🤔
The Behringer demos had a little reverb, this is mercilessly dry. Still, everything sounds like the filter knob is cranked way up. Also it reminds me of the vibe I get from my Summit when the oscillators are running in "too perfect" mode, before you add some pitch drift for the analogue experience
it sounds like the earlier beta preview was EQ'd, or Andertons did somethimng wrong in the signal chain, leading to it sounding EQ'd to a thinner sound
Can it also sound mellow and not overly driven and saturated? I can't tell from this demo. Maybe you need to lower the VCOs volume into the filter sometimes.
@@bengalinsky4300 A demo should highlight sounds. Regardless of features, a synth's sonic capabilities are of paramount importance. Hardly jumping to conclusions if a synth being demo'd sounds truly awful. Supposed "pads" and "leads" being demo'd all sound the same; tinny, thin and weak. Supposed "bass" sounds being demo'd are lifeless and lack any punch. Possibly the worst demo i've ever seen. Regardless of reasons for the poor sonic demo, either Behringer should not have allowed the synth to be demo'd or Andertons should not have released this demo as it doesn't do either of them any favours at all. Shocking.
Jack is great, love what he does with Stage Pianos, Workstations and Live Performance, however Synths are not really his thing, he's said so and there should have been an experienced Synth Professional with him.. Often the problem is sending Synths for demos to Stores or Influencers is not always the best, they're not Professional Sound Designers and whether you like it or not, it's the Sounds that sell Synths. Send it to Professionals first to voice, to show the range and diversity of Sounds and capabilities...then to the Stores to demo etc.
You no doubt could have harnessed some true thunder from this unit IMO still, not taking anything away from Jack. I can just visualize you giving this a ten minute play at the least and squeezing some great juice out of this one .
Yeah, I love Jack, but he's not a major synth/physics nerd. This is another 2 osc, 2 envelope, 1 LFO synth. We want to hear what makes it exciting. How the filter reacts, how snappy the envelope goes etc
That can't be how it actually sounds, right? I agree with other commenters that there were older demos of the work-in-progress project and it was nothing like this.
@@henrikgerlach4765 Na, I have owned quite a few Beringer synths...1 out of 10 is great.....the rest....meh. I love how the ARP clones sound that they made.
Sounds really thin... And i agree, normally Jack can make anything shine... Looks great but sounds weak as hell... Something wrong here... The Oberheim sounds absolutely immense. This certainly does not.
OB-Xa demos: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mIz4OA_tUyk.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tZwYuykUfyA.html I like the original more. This sounds EQ'd, as does the synthking demo from months ago.
Agreed this sound incredibly weak. I could make better Obie sounds on an old VA. This isn’t even matrix territory much less Xa. I wonder if it’s a bad demo with bad presets, or they just missed the mark?
Minimoog, Taurus and Sub 37 owner as well as an Oberheim Matrix 6 and OB-XA owner and I think this thing sounds great and I'm looking forward to purchasing one. I don't give a crap whatever anyone wants to say about this synth. If it ever comes out, I guarantee this thing is going to be one of the hottest synths on the market and it's got to be very hard to procure one in the 1st year of production because everyone who wants to and is knocking it, they will not admit it but they are going to be throwing their money at Behringer as fast as they can. So go ahead and knock it cork sniffers! You'll own one (without ever admitting it) as soon as it's for sale. I don't care about the name on a guitar, or synth. I care how well it plays, how good it sounds, how easy it is to program and weather it's affordable to the masses! Everyone should have the ability to own one of their favorite vintage synths without selling your house, kids and wife just to get one!
I also have a Taurus III , a Sub 37 CV , and could care less about the liebeing touted here. The OB-X8 hit the market, and Behringer hit the land of forgotten...
It’s not much different than other industry , you want something build in USA it’s a premiums cost. Analog vintage synths are popular so of course there will be mass produced versions coming out. Maybe they’ll make a cs80 for 2 grand .
@@klownaround5464 I think it’s synthesis is good as far as can be told through the RU-vid compression algorithm . I bet they didn’t do any mitigation either. Your assembly of cheesy sounding is 100% true , but my opinion is that it’s the demo not the instrument.
Both way more overpriced than my $200 Arturia V-Collection which sounds awesome, has things like the Synclavier, Matrix 12, CS80, J8, Mini, Modular, Ob... and works charm with Ableton, not tommention if you pair it with Arturia's KeyLab. Not everyone has thousands and ten thousand of $$$ for hardware synths.
Something is wrong here.. U said at the end that was the most powerful synth that u hear in your studio.. For the recording it is the thinnest one u had. If the product really sound powerful this don't make it justice at all. I think another video is required
Having just played the OBX8 at Superbooth, I have to say this doesn't seem to have the same "tonal full-body punch" the new Oberheim has. As already pointed out, it seems a bit thin, at least in this video. But hey, for the price and the way it will look on a keyboard stand, I'm sure it will sell ok...if or whenever it gets released.
Agreed. I was trying hard to pick out , but no sounds like an ordinary polysynth , not really hitting the real tone. Never mind I'm just gonna have to grow 5k in the garden lol. Hope your well Mr Prock :-)
@@AdamTheAd-vanc3d Yo Double A! Hope things are ok in the UK for you there. Things are better here in Deutschland, assuming this corona shit is really on the wane. Now we can get out and enjoy life a bit more...
This synth will become known as the "GameOverheim" and finally squeeze the nostalgia analog synth market back to realistic prices. Thank you Behringer! Still lovin' my DeepMinds.
You might want to do some research about Behringer, e.g Benn Jordan put out a good piece here on YT. And then, after all, you really might not want a ‚GameOverheim‘ anymore. On another note: I have c 10 hardware synths and drum machines in my studio setup. Guess which brand is the instrument that causes ground hum…
@@TheOneMonk Here's what I posted to Jorb's video after Benn Jordan's video: DeepMind -- "Architectural Clone" --- a lot of companies follow the popular archetype. Not trying to justify behavior, but ARP and many other companies "borrowed" circuits and might or not have been sued. The Moog ladder filter was copied with diodes or ICs instead of transistors. Same with guitars and most things ever made. Behringer does lack vision. First, they should have gone with Uberheim, but maybe Uber would sue. Not sure they will Trademark JORB. I hear about their alleged unethical behavior. They are missing the boat also. They have a capability to produce an "original" megasynth for cheap. I wish more of their stuff had preset memory. Full disclosure, I have several DeepMinds, couple Pro-800s and a Model D. Still waiting for UB-XA. If we boycott every unethical company, we probably wouldn't buy much stuff and I think we would have to grow our own food and get wind and solar as individuals.
The sound from this demo does seem a bit fizzy, whether due to the unit being pre production or an issue with recording set up, or both. Been looking to get back into owning a hardware synth for sometime with an eye on the korg prologue but have held off due to ubxa, as the obx series and oberheim sound are my favourite. But not too sure now from this demo. I did see another post on yt about some engineer guy with analogue background joining the Ubxa development team. Maybe there are still issues to iron out. I really hope they can nail the oberheim sound at an affordable price.
The oberheim is known as a fuzzy synth but that’s part of its charm.. But having said that I do think the signal is hot on the recording so it’s giving it a more distorted sound hopefully they will redo it
@@ilkkarosma5528 Oberheim are known for being creamy mate not fizzy. I have 3 oberhiem synths sat in front of me in the studio, all originals I purchased decades ago, and this Behringer sounds nothing in comparison. However, one shouldn't be suprised at that. If anyone thinks that these synths can be reproduced tonaly using Behringer components and circuitry then you might as well be pissing in the wind. Never going to happen. Not bashing Behringer, they are simply doing what Behringer do, and there deepmind 12 and some of there semi modular units like neutron etc are all great and practical enough at their price pionts. But they are never going replicate the tonal colours or frequencies using there components and circuitry. Even the engineers who work on these copies have all said this. Using cheap leftover capacitors that are spares from past products do not and will not produce the tonal characters and colours for the filters and oscillators for a start. And they do that will all of there products, the B2600 is a very good example of this.
Who's working on the damage control video, if even possible? The filter sweep was pathetic. I hope that was a mistake. Such a wise move giving the Oberheim name back and not putting it on this.
By authorizing this official Demo, considering also how many people have been waiting for this Synth for years, in my humble opinion Behringer has played 3/4 of the sales…. I'm sorry for anyone who has seriously worked on this project, but (again) listening to this Demo, the Synth (to me) sounds like a fart!
@@kendoshusmiller9137 this isn't an Oberheim? It's a cheap 'cut all corners' knock off, that was hoping your eyes would fool you enough to not listen too carefully.
Hum. Yeah. Ok. How do I say this? It sounds bad! There are 2 situations possible. Either Behringer made a piece of shit, or they recorded it wrong. The thing is, every synth they have recorded and shown was good. So I feel sorry for them to have to sit through the hate comments telling them it's their fault.
Yikes. This is the result of 4+ years? Regardless of the specs and the costume, there is so much better sounding gear available for $1500. I feel bad for Jack and, really, everyone associated with or waiting for this. It must be like a gift of socks on Christmas morning.
@@fmagic2000able you mean the one from 10 months ago from “beta testing?” Nah, I’m gonna stick to the “production Model” they sent to Andertons. They had one shot to make a great first impression. They blew it. I can’t believe they actually published this. Seriously.
@@fmagic2000able Behringer arranged this demo with their latest hardware and presets. I’ll take their word for it that this is the best they’ve got, once they “have the chips.” Hard pass.
Jack, a pad sound is not supposed to be played staccato. Lead sounds are not meant to be played as chords. Pads should be slow attack, evolving and with lots of modulation and sustain (edit: as well as a long release). Leads are basically the keyboard version of a guitar solo. Although it has a keyboard attached to it, this is an electronic synthesizer. Am I right?
No man... that isn't how music works.. those are just the generic ways people tend to make those sounds work . I use arps and pads sounds a lot .. some pads are a long pluck .. LIke piano with a lot of sustain
@@jetset808 : He is correct in the sense that certain patches DO sound best when played a certain way. But only the patch creator knows what they were intending.
@@DanglyLingham right. I gave Jack the benefit of the doubt, but I wasn't feeling it. Seemed like a bad pairing between the patches and the arrangements, didn't do the synth any favors, so it's impressive it still sounded good :)
@@jetset808 when I click on the timestamp labeled "pads", I'm expecting to hear pads. Imagine watching a bass patch tutorial but the person is playing in the upper ranges, doesn't make sense given the context.
I'd like to hear Matt Johnson Jay Kay's Keyboard player do a review on this synth he has an original OB Xa his take on this version would be very interesting.
Not a coincidence that Andersons have done their worst ever review about this Behringer instrument while Oberheim released their new one. I see what you're doing there, but you only played yourselves.
#akaitimbrewolf level demo fail. If Berhinger greenlighted this demo then this is how the synth sounds. Funny now that the OB8X is out all of a sudden a demo unit becomes available. I don't think Behringer realize how much damage they are doing to their brand with their current comms strategy. Hard no for me.
I have an OB-8 and am playing it along with this video. Granted it’s not an Xa but it’s almost the same . This sounds very different . The new OB-X8 demo sounded extremely close to the OB-8 . It screamed Oberheim. This demo sounds vaguely Oberheim ish. Very basic , not much randomness or vintage Mojo. Very sterile , and thin. Just a hint of Oberheim to it. Seems miles off . It’s no OBXa. Not even close. What happened ? Just wanted to share that. I don’t want to talk trash this. Just sharing an honest opinion. Good luck
Behringer said on their Facebook page that andertons had the room mic going and it caused phase issues that made it sound bad. So let's wait for the next video as the original demos sounded much better.
@@Leviathan-mj8gi why are you hellbent on running Behringer down when you yourself don't know if there were any technical issues? You have said on John's own video that you love to put down Behringer even though you have their synths, you don't believe in their ethics but are a hypocrite for owning their gear. You really do need to grow up.
I think it would be good to find out whether there were technical issues resulting in poorer sounding demos than previous, there are a few negative Nancies who want to run Behringer into the ground, the same hatred is fuelling others to bandwagon. Jealousy is never a good thing imo.
Disagree... Almost totally different instruments. You'll not get here FXs block (I really complain about that!) but you'll get much more control over waveshapes... and surprisingly - a lot of options for envelopes (they are digital I suppose). You can't get a triangle wave out of DM12... Only for one voice (there is a trick) using the whole 12. For me that lack of wave combinations was the point which made me to make the decision: not buying a DM 12(D) until I'll see a really bargain price. So I'll be able to play with it and re-sell without regrets.
@@KiR_3d hmm, I do not think. but i understand what you are talking about. but UB-XA is also very weak on the oscillator. if you don't mind digital and untuned software, the best synth oscillator I had was definitely the Modal Cobalt
Sorry. Sounds bad thin like paper. Maybe its just the demo? Probably rushed to get it out. Maybe the obx8 caused it. I suggest uli will make a different demo, i cant believe its sound that bad. But. Talking about the oberheim costy but sound unbelievble. I want one. Anyway theres oakso the option of the sequential ob6 that sound great
Wow thanks for the video. Now I know it was right not to wait for the UBXa for years. In the meantime I bought myself a Prophet 10 rev4 and a Hydrasynth for Poly AT instead. This synth sounds so underwhelming. Is this synth still missing some chips because of the "chip crisis" or how come?
With all due respect this is far from demonstrating what an Oberheim OB-Xa copy/clone/reproduction/whatever is expected to do. Please bring in someone that spent hours listening to Rush and Van Halen during adolescence to have a propper demonstration. The guy from Oberheim (Marcus) demonstrating the OB-X8 pointed surgically to every aspect and detail we want to hear in such kind of instrument. This demo really doesn't do justice to the power that UB-Xa certainly have.
You think playing the same old Van Halen patches is the best way to demonstrate a modern instrument in 2022? This is not relevant for the vast majority of consumers who actually want to make new music instead of playing Jump over and over in their basement
I think the UB-Xa will not be exactly a modern instrument but a reproduction of an old instrument that was amazing and left a strong mark in the music made with it at the time. It also seems to me that, although modern music can be and hopefully will be done with this keyboard, the whole point in reviving vintage monsters like Minimoog, OB-Xa, etc., at a first glance, is to serve a market that lacks the original stuff that is no longer manufactured. Roland is doing that with their digital editions of analog vintages, for instance. I really would like to hear someone demonstrating the details that made the Oberheim OB-X/Xa/8 so remarkable and typically someone who didn't listen music made with it in the 80's will not understand how to show it. There is no need to play Rush or VH or the original patches, that was just a reference.
I disagree. Sometimes it's nice to not hear the cliched riffs that everyone plays. It's like some dude picking up a guitar and banging-out Smoke on the Water or Stairway to Heaven. It's nice to hear what an instrument can do on its own. or maybe I'm wrong, maybe everyone just play in cover bands.
I did the same thing... I needed "that sound" for a project I was working on and got tired of waiting and bought an OB6. I'm really glad I did.... it literally changed my desire to get any other analog synths!
It’s not too late to take this video down and revisit it with better sound quality and performance of patches. Something isn’t right sonically,the video is hurting the brand more than it’s helping.
I'm feeling disappointed with this video review. The UB-Xa sounds impressive from other reviews I've seen. Jack is a great player but he is not a synth guy. He seems to enjoy the sounds, but doesn't really know how to showcase the strengths of a synth. I much prefer when Andertons brings in the synth experts and Jack asks questions excitedly - much like a kid on Christmas morning. This video is hollow. Void of FX and really showing with this synth can do. Sorry Andertons, you let us down with this video in so many ways. It sounds weak.
Sounds terrible! Thin, lacking bass, scratchy oscillators. Can it be this bad or is it a dodgy recording? As stands you'd be a fool to buy this over a polybrute
@@boeiend100 fair, but there’s a difference if they’re being paid to say what Behringer tells them to say. Best synth he’s ever heard is an emphatic statement for someone who usually has credibility.
@@relatedideas I think the monitors they were using in the room were compensating for the thin and screechy raw sound. My guess is monitors that are somewhat bass heavy and positioned off-axis to his ears.
While I appreciate there is obviously going to be a huge difference in price… My comment purely on sound, and there is no comparison to the OB-X8. In fact, I don’t think any of the presets sound remotely like my OBXa either? On a positive note, I do think as a polyphonic synthesizer (on a specific budget level) the synth will definitely be popular and has some huge potential. I just wonder, if Behringer had not modelled it on a vintage classic, and just called it the “ B-52” or something of their own making, would it create so much interest and sell as well? Therefore, I would analyse more deeply what it was I would be really buying……
I mean, even compared to behringer's worst, the sound coming out of this video is laughably bad. I don't know if it's the synth, something that happened to the sound on Anderton's end, or something in the youtube compression, but that's this is not nice. If the board really sounds like that then Jesus christ behringer, get it together
I'm waiting when Behringer will start working out own ideas. The biggest failure, that everyone expects to hear an oberheim sound because of the name. Why not make a modern look, and call it somethinv else?
I bet Behringer are really happy about this badly recorded demo. (Sounds like Input was way too hot or maybe some aggressive compression in the signal chain?) Unless the synth ACTUALLY sounds this bad... God I hope not. This has been on my wish list since it was first announced.
