"Worldly People" I Insulting the Very People You're Here to Save 

Scary but true. Congratulations on your "real life" 😊

I apologized to our kids for putting them through the WT drills. They are now out, as well as us. So happy! Never been happier!

Exactly! Me too, same. ❤

I did to my son too! @@wk2761

as for me, I pulled the emergency brake when my first son was 11, the age when I turned myself to become a publisher… I didn’t want him to face the same doubts and problems as I did…eventually all my kids escaped without damage, and I often think, that was my best achievement for them:) although I had to go through the lifelong post religious syndrome, I broke the generation chain for my children and grandchildren :)

❤️ I'm giving you a big virtual hug! You do what u have to do. Take care of yourself & don't get "caught" listening! Oh and don't worry - God's not killing anyone or sending birds to pluck out our eyes! That's just a mind virus & it's fake! 😀 My best to you.

Oh wow!!! Thank you for listening.....that is BRAVE!!! Please be careful :)

@@cultytalkI love the term “mind virus”, I think I’m going to adopt that one. Thanks for the idea!

@@heidijay5902 YW ❤️

Thank you, that label is awful, isn't it? So sorry about your mother :(

Thank you SO much, I appreciate you!

My favourite ex JW channel too .... by a mile!!!

thank you so much Merrill!!!@@merrillgeorge381

And all completely missing the point of Jesus many, many stories and parables....including the Golden Rule

I had nightmares about those pictures! I had debilitating anxiety about falling through those cracks if I wasnt good enough

We were the same kid! That illustration is burned into my memory! along with the little figures on the front and back inside covers

Same!!! Terrible we went through that@@MyBlueButterfly96

8:00 am. OMG!! You mentioned the SAME picture in Paradise book that used to terrify me when I was a little girl! The little girl falling into a huge crevis in the earth with her family and her dog still hanging on to her doll! I asked my mom why God was killing a child and her dog? Answer: They were not JW's. I believe that was the turning point for me at 9 yrs old. Although,it took me many years to "escape". I was always told I "asked to many questions." My "worldly"friends were also also my BEST friends. I got stabbed in the back too many times by my JW "friends." The GOD SQUAD. I could write a small book on my bad experiences in this group. Very disheartening. There are many nice,well meaning people,being mislead because they want to "live forever."😢

That illustration was burned onto my mind!! Desperately grasping for her doll and she was swallowed by the earth, along with her dog. An insane book!!@@sherryfish7067

Thats a sad attitude.this is why so many get turned off..True Christian Imitate Christ.

That is so infuriating!! So sorry.....that's beyond terrible!

I want to let you know, I feel for your feelings of caring about your friend. May you be able to find a peace with sharing about him with people who truly care about others, knowing them or not. YES ! I too find it creepy / scarey how even amongst themselves, if someone remarks any sadness , negative words. It gets shot down in what is refferd to as "" encouragement"" I'm not a JW nor are my family. My dad did allow them in the home since being a divorced Catholic, he nor us kids or our mom , his new wife, were allowed in the Catholic church. He wanted us kids to have something , he missed church too. Yet from my grandma's & grandpa's along w all my family we learned to caraboout others. Funny thing was , back then ,JWs SOLD the magazines, so they'd. Also take groceries in exchange. My dad would set them up w a bag of food out of our own stash, yet strange, even to this day the crew l9ks down their nose just because 2're. Not baptise. May you always be happy & blessed by more friends, sad to have heard of your friend who was called home far too soon.

Thank you so much and SO glad to read that you're out of there! We have fairly similar timelines!

Shocking.....and it's far too common! Oh yes, the abuser 'repented' so he got to yell 'yes' to the questions. It's stunningly bad!

My mother used to say "Worldlings" all the time. I regret not being able to tell her how derogatory and demeaning I thought that was.

@@woodard75 Jesus and his Disciples. didn't seem to call people worldly all the time..

It made me cringe too! Thank you for being here!

Terrible, so sorry@@woodard75

"Well of course I know a worldly person....he's me!" 😏

And ME!!❤😂

LOL.....fornication is a thing! Oh yes, many older ones used that term loosely!

Ugh. So glad you got out....thanks for confirming...it's a terrible label

@@survivingparadisepodcast I know. It's one of the things that never sat right with me and led me to leaving.

OMG! You poor kid! I’m so sorry! I got thrown out by elders when I was a JW because I snuck a tiny Xmas tree home. My five year old son had been heartbroken because he was sent out of a classroom into a long dark hall while the class celebrated. When I heard from the teacher, I drove down to get him and told the teacher I was tired of the WT abuses. Son and baby and I went tiny tree shopping. We became silly and happy tying paper and ribbons on it til good ‘ol JW dad comes home, reports the worldly sin to the elders then I got thrown out too. I know the tragic fanaticism and sadness. I found the world so much kinder than my JW family. So glad to be in the world. Where else would we be? Best of everything to you! Merry Christmas! ❤

my mum was always threatening to kick us out and threw our clothes out in the street. I think my sister had that done to her, because she went and lived with her boyfriends family for months. My mother also took the scissors to my dad's clothes when she didn't like what he was doing. She is a JW, he wasn't.

@@yvonne3903 wow 🫂 we've all been through a lot, sadly. We have similar stories & there's so many of us. Lots of love to you!! ❤️

@@christinesotelo7655 oh how heart-breaking! Like I was saying to the other commenter, we all have soooo many similar stories! There's so many of us! I'm sorry for what u went thru too! And I totally relate! Hugs & love to u and your family! ❤️ I hope u have a beautiful Xmas season, friend! We have a lot to be thankful for - because we were able to get out! 🫂

@@yvonne3903 That sort of behaviour certainly isn't Christian..sorry.

I'm so sorry for what you've been through. Terrible....and I'm glad you're at peace with your father now

Good story, thanks for sharing!

It's funny how different congregations can be.....I was definitely the kid hanging around with worldly kids too

@@survivingparadisepodcast yes the differences between the 2 congregations were very big. It was almost as if the first one was just pretending to be JWs. The 2nd one was so strict that they were against any worldly friends. As I moved so far from my old friends and was totally alone it was easy to get caught up in their strict rules. The love bombing was insane and there were plenty of young ones my age and they did do outings etc so it was easy to stay in.....

Far too common.....differing 'cultures' in 'god's organization'@@sharonwoodward7741

And I guess they still can’t “re-preach”(?) to Apostates since we’re a “different kind of worldly”? So only to “worldly worldlies”. No matter who I was “in the world”, I just couldn’t abide them hanging around like biting flies waiting to manipulate what I thought might’ve been a kind friendship, by preaching that buzzing nonsense. I’d run away. Instead of flies, they’re really more like salivating doggies waiting for their opportunity to jump up and snatch your feast. It’s really disgusting.

Exactly. When you say it out loud, you simply can't connect any of it....it's insane

Classic memories..... books that did so much damage

I believe it. If babies are considered “enemies of God”, even if they’re born to JW parents, I can imagine “worldly” people are enemies. I’d rather be with the babies who are innocent. But in reality, the innocent children are real targets in that Governing Body. Think of the unwanted and unwarranted abuses the children have no choice but to go through: isolation. Having to die rather than receive needed blood transfusions. CSA. Domestic abuse. Bullying. Being no part of a competitive and normal school curriculum. On and on. It’s not the adults who get “persecuted”. It’s their children.

Awful, thank you for confirming......it's still shocking

Thank you!

That's heartbreaking to read. I'm so very sorry :(

The congregations were very judgmental in those days....and that book.....ugh

Oh YES, very common! The wife swapping thing gained steam even at Brooklyn Bethel, shocking stuff. But those young people parties could be legendary.....I even know of former friends who were very 'active' in the back seat during field service! not kidding!

Being an Apostate is so freeing! Welcome! ❤

Great upgrade!!! LOL, sorry about that......'tis the season ;)

LOL, I had similar thoughts as a kid!!

Thanks Alan!

Look what they did to Job. WT gives Satan equal power as God. I think it’s time to disfellowship the Governing Body.

Oh yes, covered this several times....it never gets old.....it's so absurd

Wow, small world! Single parents are heroes!

Judgement is abusive. I’m sorry you had to go through that. But you’re free. ❤

I'm so sorry Dennis.....terrible

WOW!!!! We might have been there at the same time!

I remember being there in 1975.

AGREE!!!!!

WOW, your daughter dodged a bullet with that one! So glad she did!!! I had a similar experience when I was a single father elder.....wild to see how people view you!

LOL, LOL thank you for sharing that....MANY guys thought like this.....women and people's homes.....INSANE

Awwww, thank you so much :)

I know, right?! A PIMO & I have talked about Stacey's voice being so soothing ☺️

Awww, thank you ;) @@aloramermaidful

Totally agree! I look forward to Mondays ☺️ I think this was one of his best.

@@aloramermaidful B E A S T I E !! 💕 💐

@@cultytalk LOL Beastie! ☺️ Wally & Stacey are giving me inspiration for exJW content. After the NY when I have a little time 🥳

Here’s the journey a JW takes: recruited or born in. Baptized. Works hard for free. Isolates from “the worldlies.” Gets in some minor trouble like disagreeing with a doctrine. Judicial Committee. Repents out of fear. Whoops. Disagrees with the No Blood Doctrine or wants to have a Xmas tree. Gets disfellowshipped. Shunned. Loses his family and friends. Suffers. Tries to get reinstated by writing down pages and pages of how leaving WT hurt him in the “world” with “worldlies”. Needs to be shunned for maybe up to another year while standing stupid in a KH like he’s wearing a gag and is ignored to show submission. Realizes finally this is NOT kind. Leaves on his own. Thinks on his own. Builds a new life. Goes back to College. Merry Christmas. Doesn’t dwell on death and destruction. Makes his own Heaven.

Thank you so much, glad I'm not alone!

That is a great summary!@@christinesotelo7655

LOL...oh the irony!

Awww, thank you, I appreciate you!

In my case it's 'what a fool believes' ..... ;)

Hilarious 😂

😎@@sgt.v7237

Ironic, isn't it??

There’s real freedom in being a zero

Yep, no title? You're a nobody......just like Jesus, right? LOL

No. I remember domestic violence incidents among the KH females. But they were subordinate. Submissive. Always it was the woman’s fault. She’d work so hard to make things right. Never did it work but she was taught to “endure”. A few ended up having breakdowns without outside help allowed. Suicides too. Who wants to live like that? The man has all the power. And praise. She leaves, she is led to believe she has no one. She’s scared of the “world”, she has no University training, no job skills, men rule, untrained elders counsel...children may disrespect her for taking the abuse, little girls learn it’s normal, boys learn the “power” of the “head of the woman”, the only power she has is to remake herself into what he wants and needs. And that never works. So really...it falls to the woman to make what may be the toughest choice of her life: endure the persecution as she was molded by men to do, or plan her escape and know she risks everything if she makes it to freedom. WT life is truly like a Puritan Witch-hunt. There’s always a woman to blame. 😢

I tend to agree Lori! It's insane....and to be proud of it and put it in a magazine?? NUTS!

that cone is not cold and creamy, it's hot and steamy!😝

HA! That’s what I keep seeing and desiring CHOCOLATE! Is that really the WT with a dark cloud over it? Regardless, I want chocolate!!! LOL😂

Oh no, so sorry :)

So.....many .....titles. We could make a long list here

((HUGS)) I'm so sorry Delilah. You never deserved to be treated that way. The organization of JWs is a sick cult....including a lack of safety for children... both physically and mentally. I hope you're healing!!

Thank you so much for your wonderful videos. I can relate to so many things you discuss and have experienced. To find like minded people who have dealt with this horrible nightmare called WatchTower brings comfort. The more that is exposed hopefully will stop innocent ones from being victims of this horrible ugly judge mental cult. 🌺♥️

YES!! I'm very uncomfortable with labels even now!

They should’ve named it: “Make Future Disfellowshipped Apostates”! The average length of time a “newbie” lasts is one to three years. Having worldly experiences, most people unless they are absolutely desperate for companionship, do not brainwash easily and end up disfellowshipped, faded out, or downright tell them off and walk away. The WT is a faded, jaded, and mentally unbalanced cult built on sand as sure as Jonestown or Branch Dravidian or Charles Manson was. The targets: children; the elderly with Estates; the lonely. How many mentally challenged behaviorally challenged young people do you see in WT? How many terribly deformed or crippled? How many very aged and senile? None hardly? I wonder if WT is so “elite” they only want the free laborers that look and act as they’re told. How many homeless enter and are welcomed in KHs? How many construction workers or mechanics or farmers who’ve just come dirty from the job are heartily welcomed into any KH meeting or “Bible Study”? The JWs are quite discriminatory maybe?

Yep, same old strategies, new publication

(Sorry I messed up on printing the comment)❤

LOL LOL.....now that is funny......boys are such.....boys!

I LOVE THAT SONG!!!!! Soft Cell!!

Such a shame.....

Thank you for confirming...and for being here! So glad you're out!

Just think....without worldly people.....what would JWs do???

Yep, guilty myself!

YES! Question from the Readers is one of my favorites for the very reason you stated....I'm sure most are fabricated and even then it shows no one can think for themselves, including leadership

Thanks David....gotta keep it mildly entertaining or I'd lose my mind!!

They're not the brightest bunch, are they?

It's truly a HORRIFIC story.....unbelievable, irresponsible and dangerous. Reference in the video description for those that want to read it, I neglected to mention the reference in the audio

Oh yes!

Awwww, thanks Jane! I have a face for podcasting too! LOL ;)

Awww, I hope it brought back good memories of your family!

Class of '85!!!

Yep, so many families went through that dynamic....I'm glad you went the route of your father!!

@@survivingparadisepodcast Me too, Stacey ☺️ Get this...both my mom & dad were married before. My dad's first wife became a JW after they divorced...then his 2nd wife (my mom) was already a JW 🤣 So all my siblings from mom & dad's previous marriages got the privilege of not celebrating Christmas as kids 🙄 lol

UGH....those poor kids!!@@aloramermaidful

@@survivingparadisepodcast Thanks Stacey ☺️ I've got 2 brothers & 2 sisters, only one brother is still in. Thankfully he doesn't shun his daughter or any of our family. But he knows I spoil her at Christmas 🎄🎁💕

good for you, she'll remember that!@@aloramermaidful

LOL, anything is possible ;)

Dammit Stacey! Just finishing this one... I abhor Mariah Carey 🤬😂

Take two aspirin And call Doctor Stacy tomorrow .

Same!

Thanks my friend!