Look at it again... 1:16.... she does some strange foot swap on the hit.... look at the left foot.... she was off ballance, left foot jumps in front of right foot, clearly crosses the line. Good call as far as the rules go.
Bad but it's no Jim Joyce ruining a perfect game on the last out of the game by calling a runner safe on first who was out by a mile. That is the worst call ever.
I'm inclined to agree here. That wasn't a "well of course everybody could see he was out when you play it in slo-mo" thing, either. We all saw it in real time. I will still never understand how Galarraga didn't completely melt down. That dude was a class act.
@@XXelpollodiabloXX The next year they started using replay's & at least Jim Joyce owned up to it & felt horrible. Jim Joyce was a stand up Umpire admitting he made the wrong call unlike Angel Hernandez who should not be a umpire past little league.
@@BBBYpsi I didn't mean to insinuate that Joyce isn't a stand up guy. I respect the hell out of him for going out there and apologizing to that kid in front of everybody. And Angel is middle of the pack, not the worst by any means. He just has a *lot* of high profile fails.
@@dennissvitak6453 I beg to differ. My idiot brother made a worse call in a game of stickball in our backyard in '74. He's such a dipshit! Stevie Wonder could see that I was safe.
It has b so obvious that you would never call it If there is no lone you can't make this call I've called HS and college ball 4 years. It's the worst call u could ever make
this is the big league division of little league. typically for 16-18. I assume she turned 19 after the "cutoff date" in which she would have been ineligible to play if she had turned 19 before that date
As an umpire myself I find it difficult to be critical of other umpires. But in this case he was not only wrong about the placement of the batter's front foot. But worse he made the game about him and not the players. There is no way I would have made that call unless her foot was clearly out of the box which in this case was borderline
It almost seemed like this was the umpire's way of not having the game go additional innings as she would have been the tying run. Too bad. I believe the batters box extends forwards like 3 feet. Bad call.
The line is definitely all muddled from a game's use, but her foot was pretty definitely on the line. On the line is not out. And like you said, it was also not clearly and obviously out, so this really was a bad call.
@@johnwillis782 Actually, if the lines are erased, it becomes umpire judgement entirely. If you think the batter went to far, CALL IT. If the coach protests....say "Coach, in my judgement......". End of story.
You can tell the people who don't know baseball/softball are the ones saying, "It was close and a judgement call, sometimes you get those wrong." The point is, at that moment in the game with that much on the line, you better be 100% sure that she was out of the box before you make that call. If you're not 100% sure, don't make the call.
Peyton you're actually dumb. How about you watch ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vmncfTtoZN8.html before you reply incorrectly to a comment that was posted 2 years ago. I'm sure a softball game that cost the team one out is worse than a professional baseball pitcher getting a perfect game snatched from him. I really hate these retarded comment from idiots like you.
How the fuck was that the worst call ever not even in the top 1000 worst calls. Bad yes, worst no. How about that call at first in the tigers game when he was so safe and it ruined a perfect game go on and on. Quit your whining and play
She got thrown out for pointing at the umpire as she said it. She and her coach should’ve been tossed when they went to the animated pointing at the ground . This was s girl that’s been coddled and told she’s a superstar all her life, piss poor attitude
Are you serious? Gimme a break. Worst call ever, worst this worst that, one of the most overused expressions in the history of baseball. How many safe/out calls have been made in the history of baseball? A million? Ten million? Yeh right, worst call ever.
@@RS-hu4dm Not sure what you are looking at but both feet were in fact in the box. Her left foot was at the front corner of the box and her right foot was dragging inside the box as she made contact.
I umpire many , many of games usually in my home town . I was never biased and always called them as I seen them.opposition couches would be dumbfounded by a obstruction call that made there runner safe at home. . I was taught that if you don't see it you can't call it.. Girls are different in the box ,I get it BUT it your not 100% sure don't call it . And the foot needs to be 100% completely out of the box ON CONTACT. No chalk line is ok. . So as an umpire you are really need to be out of the box here. As you get into the smarter players like this one,she did awesome got screwed ,but not her place to argue the call
I will admit I am not a paragon of sportsmanship, but I'm that batter, as I'm on the way back to the dugout, I already know that I am going to get myself tossed, and I am going to get my two cents in before I leave.
You're absolutely right. The only exception would be if a player with large feet could be touching both the chalk and be on the white part of the plate when contacting the ball,would be out.
The human "factor" both his call & her reaction: priceless, oh & everbody wants to hate on the umpires, i played,coached & umpired, the last was the toughest!
You gotta put your thumb in your back pocket here, though. She did not deserve to get thrown out of the game for being 100% correct. That's bad officiating, I don't care how tough it is.
She and her coaches blew it teaching her to swing like that. The only thing plain and simple was the swing was illegal and should have been called on the first swing.
@@MrOpinionPod you really have no idea what your talking about!!! It’s called slap hitting and it’s 100% legal! Obviously, you’ve never watched a softball game, so why would you even comment.
As a baseball player, this seems so weird to me. Taking off running before hitting, the bases are so close, it just seems like an odd dream in my mind. I’m not saying this from a mean perspective but it’s just so oddly similar but different.
I said the same especially the way she bats once I saw the slow replay. Confusing until I noticed the little league sign but thought they looked a little too old for that. I googled and apparently Little league big league or just big league (really not sure) is age 14-19. Explains the distances but that running swing is still a mystery i'm impressed by lol
It only takes about ten seconds of paying attention to high level women's fastpitch softball to understand how the game in so many ways is not comparable to baseball and why slapping can be a huge advantage to a lefty who possesses the speed and bat skill to make it successful.
Takes alot of skill to do this style of hitting known as a "slap hit". And it is amazing what it can do. They still do this and in fact yesterday May 5, 2023 here in Hawaii they just finished the high achool DII championships and the girl hit 2 in the park homers by whats called "slap hitting".
That is very unfortunate,,,, I’m a umpire and all I can say is ........................... don’t make stepping on the chalk and calling the batter out your best call, when there’s barely a batters box line. I feel bad for the young lady, but you gotta keep under control,,, sometimes life isn’t fair , it’s a very hard lesson to learn.
Eh she's a spoiled, mouthy little shit who got rightly thrown out of the game-never approach the umpire like you have the high ground-you'll just get ejected like she did-that dumbpire isn't worth it
You’re exactly right. High school sports train us to deal with life. Her boss is going to piss her off someday and she has to hold it together better. Maybe that was a good lesson for her.
As an umpire, I have got to say that this is an atrocious call. And then to make matters worse, the umpire's poor call leads to the batter's temper flaring up, and she tells the umpire, "You suck!", which gets her thrown out of the game. While I do not condone a player verbally or physically attacking an umpire, this guy brought this whole mess on himself. I would be very reluctant to make that call unless it was a very clear case of her being completely out of the Batter's Box when she made contact with the ball, which in the case was far from the truth. As umpires, we always say, don't go looking for trouble. This guy went above and beyond that with this call.
Exactly. I think most umpires do the best they can and as long as you have humans umpiring you're going to have mistakes, but when a mistake like this is made you can't expect the coach or even the player to keep quiet.
You would be 'reluctant' to make a call? Then you really aren't a good Umpire. You MUST make the call. You call what you see without 'reflecting' on the call as you apparently are suggesting.
@@hutchgold6530 What I am pointing out is that an Umpire MUST make a call safe or out, fair or foul, ball or strike. MUST make the call. You can't just stand there and shrug your shoulders and say 'I didn't see it'. It doesn't and cannot work that way. So, for example, if you don't have the angle on the tag you didn't see the tag happen, BUT you saw the fielder make the catch... saw the glove go down... know the action beat the runner to the bag/plate... the fielder didn't drop the ball... so what do you do? Is he 'automatically safe' since you didn't actually 'see' the glove touch the runner? Well you don't get to 'take your time to consider'... you MUST make the call. So calls are made and blown. The idea is that the blown calls WILL even out over time as long as games officials have no bias against a player/team.
@@danielstith5227 what in the world are you going on about? He stated he would be reluctant to make that call unless he was 100% sure. Meaning if you are not absolutely sure than you have to side with the batter. Have you really never heard this phrase before?
Then the umpire shouldn't be umping such a big softball tourney because running up on the ball like that is extremely common in softball. It is called slap hitting.
Here's my problem with this. As an umpire, you don't make that call unless you are 1,000% sure that you saw it. That is not just a "well it kind of looked like..." whatever. I get so sick of umpires who try to be the game.
This girl has excellent slapping technique. In this plate appearance, her foot comes down in the perfect spot on the inside front corner of the box every time. On the other hand, a bad call is never justification for a player to confront an umpire. Tossing her was unfortunate, but justified. Part of the game is the fact that "its not what it is, its what the umpire thinks it is"! Adding the video appeal in televised games was a smart move by the Little League organization.
@@daveallan7443 tyrannical, ego maniacal, retaliatory, petty… this POS was mad at that girl because she didn’t get in the batter’s box quickly enough so when he got a chance, he stuck it to her. She had both feet in, he was wrong, and he kicked her out. Typical. FU for defending a group of humans who are only slightly higher than cops as the worst in society.
In a softball tournament once I had the umpire call a strike on a ball that bounced off the ground 2 feet before the plate. Obviously I didn’t swing at it. Turned out his nephew was on the other team, and he had a history of such calls.
As a fellow umpire that's the worst call ever made in little league tournament play !! Not even close !! This umpire should never umpire in little league play ever !
@daniel shook you better believe I am. That's what makes it easy to determine who in these comments has actually officiated and others that think they could
As an umpire my first thought is wondering what went through his head when he took a look at it and realized that he was wrong. You can say that he knew at the time, but seeing it makes the feeling different.
+dave z For what? Either she did or did not step out of the box. The whole foot has to be completely out of the box for her to be out. So if 99.9% of it is out, but the back part of the foot is on the line, she's good. Looking at the replay it appears that her whole foot was IN the box. The lines get worn away as the game goes on, so it becomes more and more of the umpires judgement if she was out. In this case the umpire believed she was out of the box and he erred in judgment. I have umpired many baseball and softball games on fields with no lines and it is incredibly difficult to determine if a batter steps out of the box. It's all judgement, but if I'm going to make a call like this I have to be 1000% sure she was out of the box.
+dave z Not sure about a rule citation for LL, but for ASA 7-6-D says the whole foot has to be out of the box, as does FED and NCAA. According to LL website it says whole foot has to be out and mentions "his or her" foot. I don't have the LL rule book in front of me but I do have 2016 FED, ASA and NCAA.
I hate all softball players and fast pitch and slow pitch it's a pussy sport. Edit: do you ever wonder what drugs you were on when you make a comment?
To make that call it has to be the most obvious call to everyone watching. It wasnt even close. No part of her foot was even outside of the batters box at the time she made contact!
Krab, that is one of the many things I wish I could change about humanity, but I can't. However, if you think this is only a umpire thing, or a softball thing you are wrong. This is a (most) human thing. I've seen people all the way from fast food employees, to secretaries, to doctors, to lawyers treat people poorly (or intentionally do something harmful) if they even perceive disrespect or an attitude, while I've seen those same people go a mile out of their way to help customers/patients/clients and the like that they like and/or perceive as being respectful, good people. At the end of the day you can call it unfair, but at the end of the day she was ruled out, and thrown out of the game. Sometimes the best thing to do is adapt when one knows that that adaptation will result in a good outcome (or avoiding a bad one), then to ride the right train to being dead right. Let me give you an example to quickly illustrate my point. I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. Lets says somebody does something very illegal. Like mugs/robs someone with a firearm. If you are on the receiving end of that you are actually legally allowed to use to use all force including up to and including deadly force against the mugger/robber. However, if the person with the firearm says they are going to shoot you if you don't hand over your wallet and you resist, and they decide to shoot you and you die you did nothing wrong. Yet you are still dead, and that person may be sentenced to death, or spend the rest of their life in prison etc. etc. At the the end of the day you were right and justified, dead right.
I wish people would look up more about the sport before they say stuff like: what a crap swing- no let me explain this to you what she did is called slap hitting it's a from of hitting to get in base.
Yeah I was wondering to myself like wtf is this girl doing swinging like that, i appreciate the insight. I played baseball for 8 years when I was younger but have never heard of "slap hitting".
Vogel Account yes this is correct. The object of the game as a hitter is too get on base any way that you can do that your team can keep batting and score runs.
Actually she should have been called out on the previous pitch, she made contact on the foul ball and was way out of the box on that pitch. Watch it again. The rule is if contact is made and one foot is out of the box, the announcer was wrong on that.
Dave linicus you are correct. The ball does not have to be fair. IF contact is made and the batter is out of the box OR touching the plate, the batter is out, fair or foul.
@Staying Sober yeah, and look at the batter when she got on second, she is clapping her hands very hard, all the while staring at the left fielder with a smirk on her face. Almost a taunting look. And, when the call is made, she shows herself to be a smart a** by running up to the plate and pointing at the ground to show up the umpire. Bad call or not, she should have been kicked, as she was.
In baseball it applies if you hit a fair ball otherwise there is no call made on the batter being out of the box at the time of contact. When I first saw her swing I started to wonder if she was out of the box and and after watching this video several time's I still don't know. The ump should have been able to make the correct call after calling the game for so many innings.
For everyone saying it wasn't that bad, this was an extra-innings game for the LL World Series Championship. As an ump, if you make a call on a technicality like that, it better be egregious (it wasn't) and you better be sure (he wasn't). Given the way softball plays, a runner on 2B with no outs has a great chance to score and tie the game. Pretty much just the ump trying to decide the game instead of the players. Sad! And it does appear he's not happy when she says "I'm not ready yet" when he orders her into the box. Maybe he was looking for a call to go against her. Seems like the umpire is the one who shows the lack of sportsmanship.
It was egregious! Who taught her to swing like that? It's terrible and clearly illegal. Where the he ump messed up was not calling it on the first swing. You cant run forward out of the batters box toward the pitcher while your swinging.... Every baseball player knows that. The coaches are idiots for allowing her to learn like that lol
@@MrOpinionPod last time I check it looked like they were playing SOFTBALL not BASEBALL. How about you just comment on baseball since you obviously don’t know about softball!
Rules apply in close games your argument is completely invalid. Look at it from the other teams perspective. Also my guess would be this is a safety issue smacking balls while leaping out the batters box towards the pitcher could easily cause a pitcher to get injured. I believe the call was wrong but that was close even from alow mo and better angles. This ump is behind the catcher. I get the batter is trying to get an advantage but this is what happens when you push the limit and to be fair it did t help her in this situation.
@@JasonH17 That is part of the reason why Little League has rules for facemasks for pitchers and infielders . The safety issue is solved by that, this is an extremely common hitting method used in all levels of softball.
That coach set her up to have that reaction and get tossed. He didn’t set a good example there, and should’ve known his player would follow his example.
As a coach I would be as equally upset; how much money has that coached paid, how many volunteer hours has that coached worked, how many hours has that coach lost from work to get to practice. All that time and money to have it all thrown out by a call like that
That is not that bad of a call. Difficult to see. It is easy for announcers to say it is a bad call because they are not at field level or behind the plate. Yes, wrong call but not the worst call.
Red Rhino but for an import to call that it should be bad enough the everyone in the place knows it. This is an import trying to insert himself into a game
@@tracythomas8896 Wait, are you saying that the umpire is an import trying to insert himself in the game?? Nobody can see if she stepped out of the box or not. The closest one is the umpire. Right or wrong, he has the call.
Red Rhino I'm saying that there is no way that he can make that call and be confident that she may have been in the box. In fact the replay shows she was completely in the box. He is inserting himself into the game for no good reason except he wants to be noticed as making a critical call.
After watching the play a few times it is obvious that it was a retaliation call for when she had asked him for time out and he didn't like it. Umpires are suppose to be impartial but I know they aren't because I have a catcher that works the umpires into liking her so that she gets favorable calls. I've also been told by many coaches that they don't hold umpires accountable because the umpires will hold grudges. Our society is creating it so that authority is above questioning. Just because "men" put on a uniform doesn't mean they are Saints. This is a job they are getting paid to do. Just like any other job they are responsible for the decision they make and are not above being questioned. I know I umpire.
The sad part is, she may have been "on the edge", but you have to have your foot COMPLETELY out of the box, including the line which is a part of the box, to be called out. I wouldn't have called her out, it was that close. I would have to be 100% sure that her entire foot was out of the box to call her out in a key situation like this. I wish I knew the circumstances of this game, whether it was an elimination game or a pool game or whatever. I am sure since it was between 2 teams from little Delaware, there was a bit of a rivalry going on as well.
Very close but both feet were in at time of contact. That late in the game it can be very hard to tell so it's a judgment call. The coach should've asked the other umpire for help. Once she pointed at the umpire he was within his rights to toss her.
Hahah because she pointed at him? Get real…… weak sass umpire shit, your a grown man and these are kids, your not threatened at all. Let’s the kids play, it’s not about you.
The umpire is a clown and he doubles down on his clownish behavior by tossing the kid who dared tell him he was wrong. Too much power in the hands of the incompetent.
It's called slapping. That's the problem. Baseball & softball are not the same sport. And ppl who treat it like it is have no idea what they are talking about
This is not the worst call ever. The box is always the Umpire's judgement, even when the lines are chalked. That being said, if the lines are correctly chalked, the umpire should use them to assist him/her in making this call. If the line is not visible, it makes the call more difficult. As a softball umpire, I often see slap hitters step out of the box when contacting the ball. This is because they are trying to gain an advantage over the defense by already being in motion toward first base to beat a throw. Softball is a compact game, and there are often close plays at first on infield hits. Because of the inherent nature of the slap hitter moving forward, there are situations where the batter contacts the ball outside of the box simply due to missed timing from an off speed pitch, or etc. For these reasons, I generally look for this infraction when a slap hitter comes up to bat. When I make this call, one I've made several times (usually at the lower levels due to inexperienced players), I look for whether or not the foot is clearly/obviously, and wholly outside the box when contact is made. If the foot is anywhere near the line, odds are that she is touching the line, and I will let the hit/foul stand. I probably would have let this hit stand. What many of you may not know, and what really angers fans, is when you make this call on a foul ball. The rule states: The batter is out and the ball is dead if he/she hits the ball, fair or foul, while his/her entire foot is completely out of the box and touching the ground or is touching home plate at the time of contact.
Matt Shaw I agree with everything you said except that the import gets to decide where the batters box is even if there are lines. Sorry that is incorrect umpires don't deserve that much power. And if that is there case why even have the lines for the box or foul lines.?
I agree and appreciate what you have stated except it is the Umpires responsibility to make sure the field is safe and correct as is the rest of the equipment being used by the players. If not then you are making the umpire above the game. If he doesn't agree with the lines then he had the option to let the coaches know att the beginning of the games when he is going over rules and any allowances for conditions.
I absolutely hate when umpires try to inject themselves into the game, let the players determine the outcome, bottom of extra innings and he makes a call like that, that is a bs call, too much ego on that ump
