Would Muhammed Ali Beat Modern Day Champions? 

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I'd say Ali would just come up with a strategy to beat either of them, plus Ali was able to stand and bang with some of the heaviest hitters to ever enter the ring (i.e. George Foreman, Earnie Shavers, Sonny Liston). And don't forget about Ali's durability and cardio.

Ali could (would) beat Jake Paul 👍

In my view if you go back in time slowly... Wlad is about the same as Hollyfield, and he would be about the same as say Norton. ALi would beat AJ and Wlad, but it would be close. Usyk about the same as Fraser? So Ali win 2 out of 3 fights. Fury.... ALi could out point him, punch and move for 12 rounds. Again wins 2 out of 3 fights, all very close. ALso would say, Leon Spinks lol loses to Usyk, but against Norton, Fraiser and Holmes. Even, at best. late 70's early 80's Larry Holmes a nightmare for anyone and could in my view beat Usyk, AJ, Wlad and Fury. But again very close.

I think both Usyk and Fury could beat Ali but it's not to say they would win every time. They are all point scorers to an extent (fury less so in latter years). Fury would know how to use his size and Usyk could be agile enough to get to Ali and win. However, they are close fights for sure

Ali was an extreme raysist who believed all wytte ppl are d€\/¡Ls and advocated for raysial seperation.

Ali was an extreme bigot. See his interview with Parkinson in 1971.

@@ScorpionSuerte 💀💀💀 bet ill watch it

@@ScorpionSuertehe never had parkinsons in 1971. In the 80’s he did

@@fryhyh Lol. Micheal Parkinson was the interviewer.

But what about with our ti, who wiuld win

@@Tony_Jeffries with his attitude, skills and science? Ali, I’d say

I agree with you

I agree with this take. Ali read. He'd adapt to whatever was available in the way of coaching, having been signposted to it via reliable information he'd have picked out from the junk.

Ali all the way

Interesting point but Liston was much shorter and lighter than fury

​@@zachf8855that's true, but liston also had concrete bricks for hands

@@zachf8855 Liston was 220 pounds of God-given raw power, fury is 270 pounds of beer and lard.

@@user-dc9oq2pr6v I agree I’m not thinking fury is a heavy puncher, more so the height of fury makes the reach discrepancy exaggerated

Also these guys threw more punches in every round and would go into the 15th round throwing more punches in the final round than most heavyweights throw In the first 6 rounds. Have a look at the last round of Holmes v Norton. I didn't like Lennox Lewis but he improved with age to the point that even I was impressed how good he had become. Bear in mind he was as BIG as these heavyweights today. He was far more skilled, polished powerful and generally ring smart. He would walk through these guys today. I'm not being deliberately biased towards my generation. Holyfield seems to be overlooked when comparing different fighters from different ages. Holyfield fought at around 185 up to 218 or so. During that time he went 56 rounds with Bowel and Lewis while giving 30 pounds away to guys that were top tier guys. In fact you could match Holyfield v Dempsey with them being the same weight. Likewise Louis, Dempsey, Patterson, Liston, Frasier, Ali, Foreman.....he fought Lewis as I said who was around the same weight as the Klitschkos. Holyfield was past his best when he fought Lewis and Lewis was possibly at his peak. Holyfield fought Valuev when he was way past his best and was robbed. He probably gave away 70 pounds or so. Admittedly I was always rooting for Holyfield but putting that aside for the moment I'm just surprised that Holyfield isn't used as a benchmark against the greats of the past and the heavyweights of today given his weight changes and the fact he could fight much bigger opponents who were rated very highly and were in fact well respected champions.

Ali is same height, same reach as Usyk. Usyk proved as a dominant Cruiserweight he can dominate at Heavyweight giving up 40-60 lbs on great fighters. The idea Ali would be too small is crazy talk. Sonny Liston reach was same as Fury & Ali battered Liston who was one of the most vicious champions ever & at the time was an avoided fighter before he got the belt. Ali dominated Liston, even while Liston corner cheated & blinded Ali with chemical on Listons glove which had Ali blurred vision for an entire round. Ali survived that 1 round where he didnt win, cameback the next round, whooped Liston till he quit on his stool. Ali stamina was unreal in his prime, more impressive then Liston given the volume of punches & combination fighters of that era threw. They were natural boxers + figters too. Current heavyweights are filled with former athletes who started boxing as young adults. Joshua started boxing at 18, won Olympic gold as amateur in 3 years of picking up boxing and by age 25 was World champion in 15 pro fights. Wilder started boxing at 19, won Olympic bronze in 4 years with limited experience + poor fundamentals, won World title & had 10 title defenses. Thats 2/4 best Heavyweights of this era. Joe Joyce started boxing at 22, he was in an Olympic gold medal game where he arguable won, he got to the level of a top 10 heavyweight as a pro, won interim title. Joyce wouldn't have survived in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and early 2000's. Usyk has skill, experience and talent advantage over all heavyweights in all his fights being a natural boxer in an era of athletes who picked up boxing late. Usyk stamina is great but he's fighting boxers who aren't used to throwing many punches, no fluid combinations punchers but 1 or 2 shot boxers. Usyk isn't having to worry about being matched on punch volume, combinations or speed. Ali had all that, also remeber they were conditioned for 15 rounds. Championship rounds started in round 13, 14 and 15. Many all-time fights change if they were 12 round fights, it takes another level to be great over 15. Sugar Ray Leonard would have lost to Tommy Hearns if it was 12 round fight, he wilted late in that fight. Meldrick Taylor would have beaten Chavez if it was 12 rounds, hell if it was even 14 rounds. Rocky Marciano would have lost to Jersey Joe Walcott if it was 12 rounds & wouldn't have been 49-0. Ali among the greats was one of the most scientific fighters ever, particular heavyweight. His combination of handspeed, footspeed, combination punching, timing at that size was. Along with his being a freak athletic with special mental fortitude. Ali in his prime was the perfect fighter. So P4P his skills, speed, combo punching would have him dominant any division if he was lighter at those divisions. The Ali post 3 year suspension was not the same Ali and his super human reflexes dulled and his footwork wasn't the same. Ali after his sharp reflexes left him & he was more hittable he showed he wasn't just a special boxer but an all-time figter who could take punishment. Usually freak athletes like him who rely on God gifted reflexes when using a unorthodox style usually get exposed & can't continue at elite level, either KO or outfought. Examples being Roy Jones jr, Naseem Hamed, freak athletes who had unorthodox styles who got away with terrible fundamentals because of there sharp reflexes, once that left them both they were not the same, became vulnerable. Roy Jones KO & beat up and fell off from peak of boxing, Naseem Hamed fell off too while still young. Ali dominated & had a hall of fame career just from the period he was past his physical peak.

@@MRBp2024Chavez vs Taylor WAS 12 rounds and Taylor didn’t make it to the finish. 🤦🏽‍♂️

No way any of the modern HW have a chance against Ali. Probably not against any of the top HW of that era (Ali, Frazier, Foreman). These guys fought multiple times a year for 15 rounds at a time. Guys now fight once a year if they’re lucky for 12 rounds and are gassed by the 6th.

Nobody except Ali

@@Robzrx lots of bias towards the older fighters. The level of all sports in general gets better through time and considering they'd all be "small" heavyweights these days they definitely wouldn't dominate the modern era. They could get wins against the top guys for sure, but they'd just as likely lose

Not true. Ali was exceptional no doubt, and deserves his spot in the GOAT ranking. He took on some absolute killers. However, even during his prime, he was KO'd and saved by the ropes and the bell. If he hadn't fallen back on the ropes, he'd have been out cold. He even required help getting onto his stool, he was clearly out on his feet. Not only was he saved by the bell, but his corner, as far as we can see in the vid cheated and used smelling salts to wake Ali back up in time to get back out there. No one is untouchable. No one.

​@@importantvideos4529 Yes he was around 30 years old in the early 1970s He was younger than what usyk aj tyson fury r ..when he fought joe frasier

Ali would have been a great fighter in any era, but I believe he would have not beaten Forman in a rematch, which is why he ran from Foreman. Lennox never ran from anyone. Lennox had to go to court 3 times to get his respect. 1 for Tyson, 1 for Bowe, 1 for Rahman. Tyson paid 4 million to not fight Lewis when he was young and lost anyway when he finally faced him. Ali would have been hurt by Lennox. Lennox has a jab as good at Larry Holmes. Ali to me is overrated. He fought way past his prime and he had some hard losses. He was not undisputed and could not have been. A prime Mike Tyson may have given Ali some trouble… Lennox hurt a lot of fighters. Wilder, has all knockouts, I think Ali would have lost to him too. I’m not a guy that just jumps on bandwagons. Briggs has the record for the most 1st round knockouts. Briggs was probably on the juice so he would tire after round 1, but Lennox destroyed him too.

​@@tron1007rIf there was a match between Tyson and Foreman,who would have win?

@@tron1007r Ali over rated 😅😅😅😅😅 Heard it all now. The only thing you got right was stayed too long. Should have retired after fighting George

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And considering Foreman was one of the heaviest hitters ever.

He attacked with all his strength in every round, but it was a pity that that day belonged to Ali

@@Reeeeeee12345 ”I remember hitting him so hard. I think around the stomach or the side. Then he looked at me and said “Is that all you got sucka?’” - George Foreman

​@@Reeeeeee12345No, you can find it easily. It was bald george foreman so it probably was from the 90's

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​@@DeadEye42069 i not agree ,all the old school boxers were stronger than those of now, tell me just one modern boxer who has the class of Joe Louis for example, or Ray Robinson , boxing has changed for the worse and not for the better, ,in the past there were effective techniques that no longer exist today, look at how Sam Langford fought in 1910

@DeadEye42069 *What heavy weight boxes like Ali today?*

@@imo1933 Not the oversived thumb Tyson Fury that's for sure

Yep, and if you look at pics of him next to Magic Johnson who's actually 6'9, you'll see that Fury is shorter.

​@@speedisoftheessencewell said, fury in photos he stand on his tip toes.

doesn't matter, he can fight like a 7 foot tall man or have the inside game of a 5'10" HW

Fury stood face to face 2 inches taller than Wilder. Some people are still growing in their early twenties. A pro debut height can increase. In their 20s, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, and Brock Lesnar grew 1.5 inches. Andre the Giant and my friend Jimmy grew 4 inches. Philadelphia Eagles Vince Papale grew 5 inches, and Dennis Rodman grew 7 inches. Most people round up to the next inch. I'm 5'11 3/8. My driver's licence says 6'0.

@@trevorgoodman4895 and yet just last year Fury stood next to Alex Pereira who is 6”4 - both wearing similar height shoes, and he was barely taller than him. Just continue to religiously believe fury is 6”9 like a deranged fanboy if you’d prefer

Go and try that in today's boxing... 🤣.

Fraziers win over Ali will go down in history I think the odds were against Ali I watched a documentary featuring Ali and cus damato and they discussed Ali 3 year haitus and the effect it would have on his reflexes

@@PoombaiNews May not work in todays boxing but doesn’t take away the fact that it still flowed seemlessly and entertaining to watch

He was a dancing clown

​@@PoombaiNewsYou must have not boxed before, fluidity of foot is a major asset. Ali also had incredible speed, timing and chin. Learn the sport before commenting in future.

Not really thats why get got Parkinson's

@@Insert.anger50He got parkinsons because of his granite chin, you get parkinsons from repetitive blows to the head not getting knocked out

@@StygianDemise. So who was punching Michael j fox??

​@@Insert.anger50The disease starts from birth (DNA), punches only caused an earlier onset. Learned this at his museum in Louisville.

​@@Insert.anger50hey genius he got parkinsons because of the thousands of blows he took in sparring. When he came back from exile he couldn't avoid punches like he could before. So to get used to getting, he and his team had this brilliant idea that taking shots in sparring would prepare him for the actual fight. Horrible idea and it's what led to the early parkinsons. And just because he got parkinsons doesn't mean he didn't have a great chin.

Me

And Ali was not 6'3" he was 6'2"

Yip check the photo of him and Halfthor Bjornson, Fury is on his tip toes and still not same height as him. Klitschko also said he was not 6' 9".

"Tower over them" with +1.5 inches 😂

Tyson fury is a man's man he shows no respect for none and he has supreme boxing iq I also think he could beat ali

Wilder and Ngannou themselves are very tall as well. 6’5 & 6’7. Even if Fury was 6’9 he wouldn’t “tower” over them. It’s only a few inches apart.

His chin of steel let him Down against our Henry!

@@manofbeardParkinson’s

​@@manofbeardStill beat him

@@manofbeardgot back up and won…

​@@manofbeardAli won twice against him.

Yeah, I agree like the Ernie Terrell fight, Ali while giving up 3in in height to Terrell who was 6’6” still used the hands down circle and jab approach and eventually taunted Terrell. So I believe Ali would take Klitchko, AJ, and Fury. Usyk is an interesting one, is style is so different to what Ali faced I wonder how that would shake out, I personally believe the fight goes the distance and if the fight is greater than 10 rounds Ali takes it just because of his stamina he showed in the later rounds of so many fights his hand and foot speed would also wear Usyk out throughout the fight. What do you think about a Usyk vs Ali fantasy matchup?

Larry Holmes?

​@@Yeaggghurte Ali wasn't 25 when they fought lol

Ken Norton beat him 3 times

Sugar Ray Robinson has joined the chat.

modern techniques? tell me just one modern technique after 1950

The skill is way more prehistoric back then, not as advance. Ali won't last in todays boxing boo

Lets not forget Liston was paid-off by the mob to take a fall

​@@PoombaiNewsJesus dude, maybe don’t talk about boxing with hot takes like that 😅

saying AJ gets tired by round 8 is delusion. He was tired in round 10 against the most sctive HW there is. AJs gas tank is underrated

​@PoombaiNews bruh... Ali would cook every modern heavyweight. Speed. Stamina were next level. Footwork was crazy. And he was very creative with his punching combos. Today's heavyweights are gassed by the 5th round. Ali would dance and pick AJ and Fury apart.

yes thats crazy

@@bensylver5113 wow super cool! I wonder if Usyk knows this? Surely he does! Usyk is DEFINITELY the best of this era IMO, but I think Ali would smoke him. In fact, I'd bet my life Ali would smoke him. Too fast in his prime! Freaky athlete man, great lateral agility, something unmatched by most heavy weights not named Mike Tyson (but Tyson's lateral agility was aided by his lower center of mass).

Not only birthday Same height Same reach Same weight Olympic gold medalists Undisputed heavyweight champions

I think you meant Frazier would have ruled the world if not for Foreman, since he stopped Frazier twice.

Ali beat Foreman with 8 oz gloves.

​@@genestringini8215I stand corrected.

Mike Tyson would not last with Ali ... Once Ali gets through the first 3 rds , Tyson will give up and get knocked out late

​@@msway751Maybe.. But I'm not 100% sure he would make it through 3 rounds with a prime Tyson. He would adapt to his style, but maybe too late. Then again he went 15 rounds with Frazier.

How about if he will face Mike Tyson mate?

Well I'd say if Tyson managed to pull Ali at his game close range then he would probably win but if Ali managed to keep his distance he could've pulled it off

​@@Tony_Jeffries depends really..

True

But still he was something different

They wouldn’t beat Joe nor foreman too hell Ken Norton would dominate as well

😂 crazy. Ali would be an amateur nowadays. But hey, fairytales man. Love it...

@@boepiesnoep7867 that's just ridiculous.

A prime Frank Bruno would knockout all these guys..including Lennox Lewis.

Ali, tyson, foreman, frazier, holyfield, jones jr, lewis, liston, holmes, tua, morrison. All in one era. The best of the big guys at heavyweight. Pure boxing wet dream fantasy.

Nobody forgets the guys of the past. It's not that anyone forgot them. Frazier would be small for cruiser these days. Even Foreman would be on the small side compared to today's heavies, and very slow.

Ali is a sloppy fighter boo.. His skill is outdated

Well I am not saying the Ali who fought Williams was the best ever, look who he was up against, a guy with a bullet in his gut who can hardly moved. Louis or Dempsey would of blasted that version of Big Cat in just as impressive fashion.

​@@PoombaiNews Ali's skillset and ring ability depended on who he was fighting. The better the opponent the more Ali would step up to the next level.

​@@greek1237 Williams was still clearly dangerous. He didn't just come out of nowhere and fight Ali for the world title. Williams earned his way to a title shot because he was winning fights and could still hit hard. Ali would have beat any version of Williams.

This aged poorly

Got beat up by a guy even smaller than Ali lol

​@@syed269usyk is the same height and same weight bro

I'll send you a history of boxing you can read to help with your education. 😂

I haven’t seen anyone tire out fury

@@NotVeryGudGamerfury’s never fought 15 rounds. Cant compare

@@user-ku5hs3ji8kFighting 15 rounds is misleading, you fight at faster pace at less rounds bc the championship rounds are 10/12 not 13/15 where fighters conserve punches later in the fight .

Thei size? Usyk is not bigger than Ali

@@Nekudzayes he is lol

That would be the most boring one stylistically. You can watch that fight just watch Ali vs southpaw Karl Mildenberger ,I’d find it hard pressed someone takes Ali if they actually watch the full fight .

pure skills . Usyk got this UD ,

@@UncleTermite Al struggled badly vs south paw because there was not a lot of them back in the days . Usyk is way too skilled as a south paw .

that one is truth I think Usyk would beat him but it would be interesting to see Ali strategy in a rematch .

He couldn't even dominate Ken Norton

@@chalkandcheese1868 bro 😂😂 ken Norton is one of the greatest heavyweights Ali beat him and ken Norton would wipe the floor with these current heavyweights the only heavyweight who might have chance is usyk and that’s it

Usyk cook him

No he was not 6'3 his trainer Angelo Dundee said Ali was 6'2

No he's not 6'3 even his trainer Angelo Dundee said Ali was 6'2 just like tyson fury isn't 6'9 he's 6'7

First he Ali wasn't one of the sportsmen ever he was voted by Sports Illustrated as the Greatest Athlete/Boxer and sportsmen of the Century and also Ali didn't face some of the hardest punching boxers in history he fought the hardest punchers in boxing history sonny liston and Big george forman

@@shemereali551 well he was billed at 6’3 but you’re splitting hairs arguing over an inch pal 😂 they measure him before fights they don’t just ask him how tall he is 🤣

@@SonnyK248 I am telling u what his trainer Angelo Dundee said his height was to those racists sport reporters/commentators back then point blank period

James Tillis has a style which can be comparable to Ali's and he made a lot of trouble to Tyson. Considering that Ali was a lot better than Tillis we can argue that Ali would dominate Tyson. Finally, we will never know...

I agree with you about Mike Tyson, the only one, maybe along with Lennox Lewis, who could fight Ali worthily. Let us not forget that the unbeatable Tyson was only the one before prison, who was unrivaled from 1985 to 1990. For me if Ali fought ten times vs. that Mike Tyson, he would lose seven times.

Ali would destroy Tyson 10 out of 10 times.

Tyson would beat Ali very easily, he's 50 lbs heavier and 5-6 inches taller, much longer reach. Tyson has way better fundamentals, Ali was too unorthodox. Tyson is probably the fastest "big man" we've ever seen in boxing, and Ali got hit A LOT, probably more than anyone in the history of boxing. You can't just let a 260+ lb 6'8 guy pummel you on the ropes, "rope a dope" wouldn't work.

@JGphotoyt Ali would destroy Tyson just like Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis did. Tall fighters with a strong jab that could handle Tysons shots could always beat him. Ali had a such a strong chin he'd easily beat Tyson.

Usyk cant handle Alis speed. Sorry but I love Usyk but his DEFENSE imo isn't great enough to beat Ali. He demolished Tyson Fury and STILL sustained a lot of damage. You need ELITE head movement to beat Ali and, strangely enough, Usyk is too tall. Ali strugled against SHORTER fighters like Frazier who, imo, gave him the most trouble. Somebody like PRIME Mike Tyson would post more danger to Ali. Heck, I think PRIME Mike Tyson KO's Usyk but that's just me. This era is weak and they don't wanna fight each other. Prime Liston probably beats Usyk too. PAST HIS PRIME Ali avenged losses to Frazier and Norton - ONLY a freak of nature could do that. Now, had Usyk BEAT a PRIME Klitschko or a PRIME Lennox lewis, okay NOW we are talking. Fury is overrated. Wilder? One trick pony. Joshua is a good but Usyk beat him twice and exposed his lack of ELITE hand speed.

I agree on Wilder. If you could get past that one,deadly sudden punch, he had no plan B. Tyson had this way of getting inside the taller opponents and unloaded bombs like few others before him. He really was a force of nature. I think young Tyson would have brought Fury to the floor in 4 rounds.

Why do people say this? Those guys were largely brawlers.. The technicality to their boxing game is nowhere near the level of technicality there is in the game today.

That's just nonsense. Name a single sport where they were more talented back in the 70s. Boxing is no different. Apparently we have been in a weak era since 2004 when Lewis retired. It makes no statistical sense. It's just nostalgia.

@@MD-uu5nt it’s makes no statistical sense but what evidence do you have to the contrary. Like what fighters from today would beat Lewis?

@@SonnyK248 what evidence do you have to support your own position? On what basis do have you concluded that none of the fighters today would beat Lennox? He lost to Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall..were they quality fighters? He lost almost every round of his fight with Vitali Klitschko, Vitali was so unlucky to have been cut early on in the fight. Muhammed Ali lost to a 7 fight novice in Leon Spinks. These guys today are much bigger and there's a lot more use of IQ today than in any past era..they don't just come out swinging like guys in the past, they are taking time to set up shots, finding ways to use range and angles to their advantage during fights, upped their defense game to avoid taking too much damage, etc. In this era, boxing has developed into a legitimate form of martial arts from just being a sport for brawlers in the so-called "golden era".

@@JayEkh dude Lewis avenged both those loses pretty easily and Ali was well past his prime when he lost to Spinks and even he avenged that loss too. Ali beat Liston twice, Patterson twice, Frazier twice, Norton twice and he beat Shavers and Foreman 😂 Lewis fought Klitschko literally in the last fight of his career and Klitschko was a great fighter and Lewis still beat him. You can blame the cut all you want but Lewis put it there. So again. Who beats Lewis today?

exactly

Foreman got the snot bashed out of him by Holyfield, and he didn't have the guts to fight Lewis, Bowe, Tyson etc

By that time, Foreman was already old enough to box and still held his own against the youngsters.

He never came back because he had Parkinsons, you ding dong. He was diagnosed three years after retirement.

prime ali is unbeatable . todays division is a joke , ali would wipe the floor with these guys .

Not at all. Usyk is much more skilled. He bullied big men. Ali bullied small men. Huge difference .

@@anul6801ali vs Forman

@@agarhuss Foreman was the same size as Ali.

Ali & Usyk both 6’3” with 78” reach. Plus both have a 66% KO rating!

​@@anul6801You are right but I get the guys point, they're comparable in some respects in regards to anyone recently who has remotely similar skill level, agility and speed. Usyk has that mental edge as well, he'd give Ali a run for his money in the mental war as well I think.

Extremely overrated

​@@chalkandcheese1868its lunacy- todays fighters would annihilate him

@@mistersparkles1842That's the farthest from reality. Ali would dominate the space if you transported him to today.

@@mistersparkles1842 Only somebody who is either, under 18 YO, or a boxing novice/neophyte would ever say something so foolish. AN OLD 45 year old FOREMAN was winning rings in the 80s and beating guys up in the early 90s. An OLD Larry Holmes was beating guys up into the 80s. THIS ERA of HWs is trash. Joshua's okay. Ruiz meh. Wilder, one trick pony. Fury, CRIMINALLY OVERRATED, lost to Ngannou a guy who'd never fought a boxing match before. LMAO children...

@@chalkandcheese1868 *Tyson Fury is Extremely overrated. Corrected it for you. Fury is top 3 in this era, right? In his PRIME he LOST to Ngannou who had never fought a boxing match in his life before LMAOOOOOOOOOO. That's your king? Expectations have dropped a lot since the 70s. PRIME Foreman would smoke this entire era lol.

😂😂😂😂❤❤

Amen 🙏

Thank you, somebody said it.

Tyson Fury would knock him out in one round

@@Draconianoverlord55 Tyson Fury wouldn't have got near Ali, because he has as much grace & poise as a Pink Flamingo.

Thank you. Your putting Ali’s advanced age.

Ali Gets neged😂

@@Ehrle6969no he doesn’t

Absolutely not. Foreman was one of the biggest and hardest hitters at the time, and he was 220lbs when he fought Ali. Smaller than Usyk, and not a tenth as fast or technical. Ali would've never beaten guys like Usyk. However, if Ali had grown up with modern sports science and the evolution of boxing since his day, then he could've been competitive.

@@TheStraightestWhitest usyk is a weaker holefield, ali negs usyk ask dubois and chisora

The difference between 6'3 and 6'6 is only 3 inches. That is a marginal difference. But the weight changes, average was about 210lbs in the 70s. Now the average is about 230lbs - 260lbs.

Fury is the best of the worst would have been completely outboxed embarrassed and retire on stool around 7th round

@@nazraz6537 factsss

@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270Fury got schooled by Usyk - how do you agree with that😂

Foreman was dominating in his 40-50

Foreman punched himself out against Ali and had pretty much no head movement. Can't see Foreman doing good today.

@@Ultizer Are y sick ? go get some help :D

​@@bigr5333dont forget about smokin joe

Modern techniques don't mean shit imo. You said it yourself: if Ali is the goat he had good enough techniques I'd say. Best thing for a fighter is to fight often. Back in the days top guys had stay busy fights. Keeps the fighter sharp!

And pittypat punches

Ali was dropped a few times. Vitali Klitschko and Usyk (so far) are the only heavyweight champs to not get knocked down.

If u think AJ & Fury couldn’t compete with those guys, then u don’t know the sport. Ray Mercer drew with Marion Wilson ffs 😂

1966 Ali is undefeatable

Excellent point, especially now post Usyk vs Fury, where Fury gassed sometime around the 8th round. There's no way he survives against the Ali that went 15 full rounds with a prime Joe Frazier.

Have you guys actually watched Ali's fights? He and his opponents get really sluggish after 8 or so rounds. Though sports science has gotten better these days, Ali didn't get to benefit from that.

@@Ultizer did you see Ali Frazier 3? Two guys well past their primes battling like warriors to the bitter end. When motivated, Ali often elevated his game in later rounds

@@djardine2520 They looked slow as hell after 10 rounds. Ali especially looks bad, im surprised Fraizer lost this one but Ali's corner admitted they were seconds away from quitting also.

Agreed. Tyson Fury is much bigger than Ali. Also, Ali took punches from Ernie Shavers and people say he was the hardest punches in history. Ali had a chin man.

nah usyk got this

If you fight 15 rounds you train for 15 rounds , if you fight for 12 rounds you train for 12 rounds . It’s not a can’t do it thing you prepare your rounds , punch counts etc to whatever the fight is .

Getting hit so much you get brain damage is no flex

​@@ScorpionSuerte His legendary chin is a flex

@@Trekzity To uneducated boxing fans perhaps, but in life it's a massive L.

@@ScorpionSuerte So you're an uneducated boxing fan

@@Trekzity Your response makes no sense. Is English your 2nd language?

Fury is the easist one to call, sadly Fury is super over rated one of the things folks credit him with speed is a thing he truely lacks. Ngannou exposed him for that Wilder beat him with speed. Hard to see a man that moves so poorly around the ring with slow telegraphed punches being able to match up aginst the boxer with the greastest foot work ever seen. Fury would be swing at air most of the time. The rest i do agree with.

How is Ali a more natural talent ? What kind of statement is that.? Usyk had over 300 Amateur fights ,if he didn't have a natural talent he never would of started boxing so early.People can't get over the fact that Usyk is simply better than everyone today and him and Ali would be a great match at the same weight,say 200 lbs. Get them at their best weight ,you have the fight of the century. . At their near highest weight Usyk would dominate Ali. Ali@230 vs. Usyk@220. Ali vs Foreman was not Ali's best although it was his most impressive victory.Ali in truth in his prime at his best was a Cruiserweight or just above.

Fighters peak at different ages. At 22 I think Iron Mike has a big advantage.

@@alstone4253 I think so too , but Ali was at his peak then I think

You forgot about Dempsey, he’s gonna bust a few jaws and orbital bones.

he also made bad choices and risky bet vs south paws . Only worked because they were not top level . This is why im convinced usyk beat Ali .

Nice insight.

Thanks ma man 👊 Will make more vids like this

​@@Tony_Jeffrieshey, thank you champ.

​@@Tony_Jeffries when big names like ali get mentioned every casual boxing fan suddenly starts yelling😂 I like you tony, because your not blind. You see that heavyweights of the past where not technical ( or very skilled ) compared to today. Ofcourse a smart guy like ali could thrive in a period with mostly head hunting sluggers and brawlers. You see them miss punches to the head like 10 times and they still think to themselves lets try 10 more of the same haha. Mike tyson would destroy ali in his prime( he is a nightmare version of joe frazier ). And ali would get outboxed by todays guys who fight smart. ( although not all of them because bad conditioning, i think lennox lewis and holyfield era would be more challenging for ali ) Ali was something special for that time period because back then heavyweights where not skilled/smart enough for him. He was a very good fighter ahead of his time. But he would absolutely have problems with the technique, skills and nutrition of modern fighters in my opinion.

Throw James Toney in there

That's speculation, we never saw Joe Fraizer or Sonny Liston in there prime either, but its only fair to judge what they accomplished not what they could have been.

Yeah but look what happened to Tyson after his lay off!Ali had a lay off of 4 odd years .....

Are you high? 🫣🤣 ali famboys delusional

@@deivytrajan yeah same weed you smoke....

Usyk.

Imagine what that would do to Mike Tyson (if he didn't respect and adore Ali so much). It would make him even more dangerous. Mike went in to kill people.

Yeah he really psyched out Frazier and Norton lmfao

good luck doing that to usyk

@@chalkandcheese1868 duh…show me where I claimed it worked every time

@@bensylver5113 head-butting doesn’t count as trash talk

No he's not.

@@OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt yh usyk is better

@@os12481 better than Ali?

@@OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt better in some aspects

@@os12481 wow. Who's Usyk beaten that compares to Ali? He is overated by the pop star chart making commentators such as yourself.

Doesnt matter what they said. Ali's skill is way more prehistoric, not as advance. Ali won't last in todays boxing boo

​@@PoombaiNews Thats not true .. Modern boxing has changed cardio wise But the fundamentals r the same Floyd mayweather uses old school training Most top boxers use old school methods Fitness for fighting isnt anything like general fitness training

I heavily disagree I personally I think fury’s footwork is amazing but not to the point of Ali’s, I think a lot of it is because of his stature Ali was fit and in my opinion a lot more fast than fury. I feel as though fury has the best footwork of any heavyweight as of now, but in the long run I still think Ali wins in that department

@@S33n13 yeah I agree with you. I was just saying that I can understand Tony's view

@@S33n13 ali was a legend on all aspects man, even Tyson admits ali was a monster

@@infiniteanimator518 Yea me as well I really hope you didn’t think I wanted to debate, I just had a different opinion is all

@@S33n13 sorry my bad dude, didn't want a debate either. Ali is the GOAT 🐐

Usyk's footwork might be better, the game has changed.

There's nothing cool about taking punishment.

@@brandonjohnson5205 No, there isn't. But for some fighters who can take it, it is part of the strategy. How do you think Ali beat Foreman?

@samkitty5894 true but if he fought like that today in boxing the ref would wave it off.

I take usyk he will batter him with south paw stance . ALi lack too much experience vs this style .

I agree with everything except the Mike Tyson part based on how he did against James Tillis and Tony Tucker, who fought with a broken hand

Tyson, I kind of agree, out of all of them he would have been the most dangerous.

Usyk would punish Ali

@@shabbaman6104🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 don't make me laugh

@@fin4196 he would Ali show struggled vs south paw and they were journey man .

@@fin4196 Ali would do well for a few rounds but once usyk begins to figure Ali out which he eventually would in the later rounds he would begin to punish Ali like he's never been punished before