Would Tamar Braxton Be TAMAR BRAXTON Without TONI BRAXTON? [BFV - S4E9 | Surprise Me Not] 

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All them need to thank Toni because I still listen to her song

Habrá cambiado ya Tamar con respecto a lo q es la vida. Todo lo q No puede conseguir lo defenestrado, aunque sea bueno para los demás. Babyface es un lujo para ella, ya quisiera Tamar trabajar con él. Toni es el Amor de su vida Músical

Lolll

Tamar have five albums if was for Toni she would have been make it

@@loveallshay1659 It still all stems back to Toni like Towanda said if it wasn't for bfv values you wouldn't know who Tamar was and it would be no braxton family values without Toni ,Tamar begged Toni to do bfv cause they weren't gonna pick up the show without Toni, I've always wondered why she didn't go by Herbert and we know why because the Braxton named held wait because of Toni let's be real

@@TheBABS09 exactly because Toni didn’t even want to do the show. Tamar had to practically beg her.

@@loveallshay1659 Toni definitely did. She had record deals and lost them all because of her nasty attitude. She had to marry an executive producer just to get off the ground herself.

@@wavyblkqueen her album made it to the billboards stop judging her like your perfect. If you been through what she’s been through you would have an attitude as welll so bye

I kr

I knew Tamar before Toni

@@beingkylerjade1139 that’s good

Actually that’s the opposite for me, but I think its just cuz I’m young

The Braxtons came out as a group 2-4 Years after Toni. A lot of people might’ve heard of The Braxtons (aka Tamar) before Toni.

Her talent is not enough her personality kills it every time

Tamar garbage!

Just like her attitude!

Did he take your money in the past????

Me Evelyn paved the way. If it wasn’t for her being Joe Jackson they wouldn’t be singers

Traci wasn't about to be out there fighting with them. That's why she was living her life peacefully in Maryland with the dad and brother.

Actually, I see Toni and Traci in these episodes go into protection mode due to past traumas…that’s what people do when they’ve survived childhood trauma.

She was getting sick at this time. Toni mentioned her being hoarse. She passed from esophageal cancer😢

“Where’s my steak” 😂😂🙏🏾

Same here.. Traci was all the way there for it

E B Trina be 🗣R E A D I N G

Girl she gave me life

Braxton is Tamars name just as much as it is Toni’s and the rest of the girls

She's my favorite sister period !

Ryan J but no one would know the name if it wasn’t for Toni

Trina said nawl, let me get her 😂

She kills me everytir she says No Toni

Lol. Ikr. Let's eat.

I'm crying 😂😭

😭😂😭😂😭

That was my sentiment exactly😅

4:33😂😂😂😂

I’m glad she knows it

Facts!!!!!! Classy mike drop!

Ikr

@@chelelinda6062 yk this was filmed a long time ago right

She should've set her straight... the problem is it rarely happens

Her personality is why she'd never get to Toni's level. Toni is media trained and knows how to carry herself.

lies

Very true!

@@drubert1981 ....and one of the most beautiful....sensual....iconic....talented artists in the industry...and everyone knows it....and Tamar cannot abide it....that eats at her....

@@drubert1981 so true!! And Babyface could see it too, that's why Toni was chosen

Yeah she still she still got going on you go girl

Why you snapping on toni for like I said yall sister at the end of the day come on tf now grow tf up Tamar

And Tamar is so delusional. Po thang

@@missvida6251 very

How in the hell are Toni and Tamar SISTERS????? It boggles my mind.

I see what you did there. Lol! Okay! I’m with it and I agree 😂

Ikr me too my face 😮😅😅😅😊

Don’t mention Phaedra she rehearses some of her most iconic reads lol I would say the Trina read was Karen Huger or Kenya Moore worthy ! 😏

@@obibraxton2232 Rehearsed or not Phaedra's reads are LEGENDARY. 😉

@@ROBII88 they weren't

Ikr! I replayed that part over and over 🤣🤣🤣.....and then she said "spell "tell"" hahahaha

That was lame asf

toni lookin at them like “the have nots are bickering again” 😂

She can’t stand them honestly 😂

“Sometimes… I don’t like my family…”

@@imonlyhereforthelaughs 😂😂😂😂😂

Most of us can relate 🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣😂😅

I feel like Trina has something against Tamar because she the only one who snaps like it don’t even be that deep

I used to think Traci Was the one. However, Traci let’s things build up and she explodes. Trina will get Tamar together immediately lol

Lol did you have to say they mama be looking stupid 😂😂

@@austinervin7554 💀💀💀 I was like hold up wait a minute 🤔😂😂wild

🤣🤣🤣

When it is known that Toni has helped, Tamar MORE THAN all of her other sisters combined! It was never an option for Toni to help Trina and Towanda to be a duet after The Braxtons broke up.. Or hell, even solo artists, Trina wanted to sing. And can. Towanda passion is acting. And even Traci. Toni helped Tamar above the rest!

Understandable

All that staged

Bump Toni feelings she so selfish only thinks of herself

@@joohsayexactly! If it wasn’t for Toni, Tamar wouldn’t have ever lived the life of luxury with Vince .

Trina keep her hair laid

Shes looking hard these day though ... she aged fast

I do & I Love?Toni

@@vtara5394 she’s an alcoholic that’s why.

@@missvida6251 Oh, wow. That'll do it.

Me too, I just love that signature short hairstyle.

I wanna do it so bad but I’m not that brave 🥹

Ain’t nothing worse than hearing people argue and you hungry 😂

@@Simplykiebby 😆😆😆

@@Simplykiebby 😂😂😂😂

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4:33

Yes, Tamar knows which is the household name….

That really wasn’t a read bc Braxton is Tamar name too it’s on her birth certificate and Toni doesn’t own the name Braxton

@@ThomasBrown-ig1wx it’s definitely a read because she got married and took her husband last name

@@justprettycarly sooo

@@justprettycarly her name was still Tamar Braxton Herbert

Consider yourself BLESSED if you don’t personally know someone like that.

It’s called a Narcissist 🤷🏽‍♀️

I know someone like that, a close relative, it's actually quite exhausting having a conversation with them, every conversation can turn into an argument.

They were jealous

Tamar is a narcissist. Point blank period

She actually was lovely to watch on the latest season of VH1’s Surreal Life

@@DJMiaMoonBaby She's no longer acting like a muppet and bopping her head around with crazy dramatic antics? 🤔

@@TheMrsilverscott not at all

@@MoreOfMone Maybe she really has changed then 😳

​@@TheMrsilverscott she has, she has evolved after all that has happened to the show and all I feel like they found inner peace and were more happy without the show

Tamar telling Toni about the music business is laughable🤣

Exactly

Facts I don’t blame her for not wasting her energy Tamar tried it like always

Me too

I miss Traci so much

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Me too. So sad 😢

I wonder wht they'd being doing now if she were here, they could've made another sister album r.i.p Traci u will be dearly missed fly high 🕊️

That's what's people like Tamar need. A reflection of them thrown back at them.

They are close in age. Trina dc about her being the baby. 😂

She couldn’t take any of them…

She obviously got under her skin because she made her lose her cool and get out of character. Are you blind ? She just handles it differently cause others don’t want to go back and forth all day except toni maybe. But Trina entertains the argument

I believe it's because they're both the youngest so they were probably the closest growing up and Trina knows how Tamar operates.

I was thinking the same thing smh

Me too cause I think she died from esophageal cancer RIP Traci 🕊

I think she was

I know. I miss Tracy. She's one of the only celebrities who actually seemed genuine.

I noticed that also.

Toni better than me, cuz I would've been done with Tamar ass that day. All the shit Toni has done for them...but when her ass got fired from The Real Toni was the 1st MF she called.

I would have been lookin at Tamar Braxton 😬👀

abundantly seeking she charted on her first album?!👀🤷🏾‍♂️‼️ oh ok SUCCESSFUL ......ANYWAYS 😬

Yeah Toni the most famous one out of all of them

Dillon Smith Toni’s debut album alone sold more than tamar’s entire career lmaoooo . Love & war wouldn’t have existed if there was no BFV, and there wouldn’t have been no BFV if there wasn’t Toni

3 years later I think it's 75 million records. She's amazing!

@@dontelindsey5846But, THAT attitude won’t take her far.

@@foodie4138 are you referring to Toni?

@@dontelindsey5846 Hi. I’m saying that despite Tamar’s talent, having a bad attitude won’t get her far. Thanks 🙏

@@foodie4138 oh okay. I agree 💯

I don’t hate to say this because if Tony wasn’t on the show I wouldn’t have watched the episodes that I did watch and if some people would be honest with themselves they feel the same way I do not everybody but some of them do

I’d enjoy watching the show more without tamar

Tamar's head strong and big headed she is now singing for where ever n with who ever n all the drama is following behind her. She is difficult to deal with

@@marloscott1016 Agreed.

The network definitely didn’t even want this show without Toni!

😂😂😂😂. It was so rude the way Tamar bust in and interrupted!

Lol... how do you spell ignore? T-o-w-a-n-d-a

Yes! 😂😭😂😭

But what did she say to Towanda during that moment? And what did Toni say to Tamar?

Sent me. Towanda is PETTY 😭😆

RIP Tracy, man.

That’s the activated Sagittarius. We are calm until

Yesss, true Sagittarius energy! Don't come for us cause we gone return with a whole missile

That's my jam!! 😂🙌

I disagree. Tamar can do everything Toni can do, not to mention she has four-octaves, whistle register, and she’s a songwriter. I think she could’ve made it but it would take a lot of time. Regardless, she still waited her turn for at least three decades.

I love that entire cd man! And I was 2 when it was released 😂

@@MarquesTheProducer that’s not the point. Tamar is awesome but she needs to stay in her lane and not try to be on equal footing with Toni. When you try to measure up to Toni and go toe to toe, you will always lose!

@@bloop8051 who are you to tell her to “stay in her lane”? She’s not trying to be equal to Toni. They’re just both great singers with great ears for music, they’re both sensual artists, and they make the same type of music: R&B. And anyway, you’re complaining about an episode that dropped about a decade ago …

But Toni had to file bankruptcy multiple times. So I think Tamar was saying going independent is the best way. Because Toni people always takes, takes and takes. She didn't have a great deal obviously

@@TheSEXYARIES324Toni filed for bankruptcy because of her health, Lupus hindered her and shows were cancelled she had to file for bankruptcy protection, that has NOTHING to do with Toni paving the way for her family‼️

That was funny!!!! 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣

Yass!

That was green asf. Trina so smart til she dumb asf

I don't have a Tamar album and I don't want one I hope that doesn't make me a bad person

I remember the song "if u don't want to love me" didn't even know she was related to Toni. She just went by Tamar, what was probably an attempt to not ride Toni's coat-tail... But that was it. She couldn't make her own success individually. It took BVF and for that Tamar should be grateful. Can't believe she downplayed Toni's role in giving her a platform to be successful.

I knew she had sisters because I remember the Braxtons did an album in the 90s. Tamar also dropped a solo album in the early 2000s and it flopped. None of them blew up until BFV, which only happened because Toni agreed to do the show. Tamar talking this bs is disrespectful to Toni for the door she opened for her sisters.

I only knew Towanda as her sister..she was on a reality show because she was on probation for writing bad checks & stealing...she had to do it for classes as part of her probation...it was called starting over (in the 90's) I think

DING DING DING DING!!

They forget this part though

If I was Toni I would have quit that show and let Tamar carry it then

They deserved it, tbh

You know a lot of artists when through record deals so what ?? Even Toni first 2 record deals did get through

@@myraallen2951 and I can name Toni’s SONGS!

Yet Tamar has four Grammy nominations, a BET award, 2-3 soul train awards, etc. She has great albums, she wrote almost all of her songs, she co-wrote for Toni, and she’s also mastered the art of being a vocalist. She’s still accomplished no matter if she isn’t as successful. Through all of this, she is bigger than Toni as of now 👀

@@MarquesTheProducer dude Toni have actually won Grammys not just been nominated 💀and won soul train awards and Toni is streamed more than Tamar on all platforms

@@asmrlilvezzy6601 her most streamed songs are from the 90s. It’s not fair to compare them. as an artist, Tamar is bigger than Toni and her albums clearly did better on the charts than Toni. Grammy’s mean nothing. I only referenced to the nominee because y’all act like Tamar isn’t accomplished ... I don’t think she’ll ever reach Toni’s sales. but Toni can’t either 👀

@@MarquesTheProducer Toni already reached tamars sales and passed them even in modern do so call sales (streaming) literally only 400,000 people stream Tamar a month vs 3 million streaming Toni a month says a lot about who’s more popular in modern times streams are what counts today and Toni streams are way higher

@@asmrlilvezzy6601 that’s not necessarily true. her Sex & Cigarettes did good only because of Long As I Live. she currently has a #1 single but the sales say otherwise (sadly). Tamar hasn’t released an album in three years. You can’t expect her to still have a lot of monthly listeners. Tamar is the most popular Braxton as of now. Just like how Toni had a # song, Tamar had a #2 song last year 👀 Toni’s Spell My Name isn’t doing good on the charts, neither in sales.

Those sister sing back up for toni

Does she mean that Tamar is dumb? Lmao

@@ralphanthonymallillin2712 yes

@@jayggang7325 LMAO 😂

DesMone Ketron she reading 📖 the novels full of truth!!!!

Period......Sales......no one is taking away Tamar work ethic but to say having Toni Braxton as your sister did not pave the way......I'm confused. Tamar Herbert still

And second Toni wanted to work with Babyface because they all would’ve gotten paid at this point when they made the theme song none of the got paid except Vincent and Tamar that’s why Tamar was soo pressed because all of them would’ve gotten a coin

I hope they not jealous

Of what 😂

@@myraallen2951 what is there to be jealous? Tamar just thought she better than them

She should be embarrassed... How you get 4 record deals and have an amazing voice, yet still couldn't make it. The show definitely made it possible for her success, and the show came because of the Toni Braxton.

@@autumnskai6383 thts what i was thinking she basically happy she flopped four times

@@MarquesTheProducer janet Jackson was actually successful tho 😴Tamar only hit is love and war that’s dumb to compare her on a level of Janet and Tamar did not make bfv because the network ask for Toni at first and she agree don’t get on here lying tryna make Tamar sound like a super star cause she is not

@@MarquesTheProducer Tamar released an album back in the early 2000s by her self and it was a flop if Toni never agreed to that show the Braxton sisters would not be a household name so therefore Toni is responsible just like she was kind enough to let them be her back up singers

@@MarquesTheProducer man what bye dude you sound stupid you just said Tamar doing better than Toni when Toni still getting #1 r&b songs and yea janet first two albums filooped then after that every last one of her albums went number 1 something Tamar can’t do even Janet Jackson last album hit number 1 and Tamar haven’t even sold at least 10 million have a seat all them songs you just named of hers nun of them hit the top 20 spot on billboard have a seat Tamar is not known worldwide like Toni Braxton

I had to rewind that so I could see it. Lol

😢

Toni herself has actually admitted that Tamar does have the best voice out of the family.

Toni said Tamar has the best voice of the family.

@@mikelenbody9691 That's why she is Grammy nominated and not a Grammy winner like the living legend Toni Braxton.

They kiss Toni's ass constantly and use her success to belittle Tamar and undermine her Tallent and hard work. Don't like them.

Tamar wasn’t singing solo until this show. She was singing Toni’s background for many of years for free. She decided that she didn’t want to do that anymore and wanted to start her own singing career.

@@paulettekeel6318Tamar had a solo Album back in 2000

I thought I was the only one

I agree with you. No one makes a person.

@@memorymathangi8820 She didn't make her but she paved the way. There's a difference. Meaning, no show, no exposure. No Toni no show. Tamar needed to humble herself. Instead she let Trina get under her skin with that "20 years" and she started popping off, with regard to Toni. Her argument was with Trina.

I was thinking the same thing😢

Yep my aunt voice was like that she had it we found out to late

That's exactly what it was, poor Traci 😭

There’s way more reason behind it they were all jealous including Toni they wasn’t expecting her to blow

Yes, count your blessings

Liess

@@loveallshay1659 a little lonely out on that limb.... Lol

@@geeunit831 you don’t know that. She was married to a record executive. She was hungry to make it. Toni had nothing to do with her success. If that was the case being Toni Braxton sister she would have been blew up

@@loveallshay1659 oh pls nobody knew who tf Tamar was. The only reason anyone knew who she was was because she was Toni's little sister and she's still known as that. Toni was a superstar in her own right Tamar has never had that level of fame and success Toni has had. She never will.

Shut up

The only way I could see what Tamar means(and im iffy on that bc that girl has a mouth on her lol)is that they only kept clips of her arguing, and not the ones of her family getting along . There were so many clips of them singing and joking, but they were deleted scenes. Reality tv loves drama and those fun happy scenes being “deleted” was deliberate, but Tamar doesn’t even hold herself accountable for the things we see she does on tv.