China having 40% EV adoption doesn't mean squat when most of their electricity comes from burning dirty coal. Not to mention their low environmental standards that further dump tons of toxic waste into rivers and oceans in order to mine the minerals needed to manufacture EV batteries.
Gday, that is just a tired and lazy response. China is rapidly decarbonising and is the worlds largest manufacturer or solar panels which they are using too. Is your solution to climate change to wait until all power sources are renewable before building EV’s? Or should we do everything all at once to accelerate the transition.
Hey Steve, insightful video. I live in Yokohama, Japan, and my wife and I bought a Tesla Model 3 some four years ago on a somewhat whimsical retirement fling. Neither of us is particularly whimsical, and didn't really retire either! We have our own home with an open garage, and I installed a charger with 200V/40A. We loved that red car, but ingress/egress was not so good, so as soon as the Model Y came out, we traded up ... and very happy for it! To your points, city life here does make it hard to have home charging, but not insurmountable. It's really not that hard to get a 200V/30A plug outdoors, and that is plenty for overnight topoff. Apartments and Condos present other problems, but any new developement could easily make a few stations and figure out payment. I'm involved in getting my neighboring condo to put a charger in the entry, and pave the way for folks there to go EV. I have seen some of the new on-street charging station ideas, and sure they could be implemented here. The will to do so remains the problem, and the ICE folks and gov't agencies have certainly not helped. But as EV prices come down, and folks realize just how efficient and maintenance-free they are ... even this intensely conservative society will get disrupted. BTW, I am not anti-ICE ... I very much enjoy my Triumph Bonneville T120 WC. Wow, a LOT of Luddites in your Comment section!! ;) Tesla Gaijin
Hello, if we lived nearby you and I would be great friends. I have experienced similar issues. In Australia the standard voltage is 240V and 10Amps. I assume Japan is 110V. If you like my stuff check out “Steve’s Bikes” on RU-vid. I ride a BMW GSF850 Adventure …cheers
@@stevestesla9120 japanese arent stupid enough to call to trade 1830 ev's over 1860s combustion can we say ''GOING BACKWARDS WITH OBSOLETED TECHNOLOGY?'' LUDDITES MUCH? CANT ACCEPT COMBUSTION AS SUPERIOR TECH?
There is one legitimate reason for Japan to lean towards hydrogen over BEV, relative to other countries, which is that Japan is struggling to provide enough low carbon electricity. They don't have very good locations for solar or wind. They are actually importing solar produced hydrogen from Australia in order to get green energy. The main argument against hydrogen cars is the low efficiency of converting to hydrogen and back to electricity. But in Japan's case they are already doing the hydrogen conversion anyway, so putting that hydrogen directly into cars may make more sense than it does in other countries where you can charge a BEV from grid connected renewables.
Hi, I can see how that might make sense for Japan, however how can they hope to export hydrogen vehicles globally when the rest of the world doesn’t have the infrastructure or the same energy pressures?
I love my gasoline-guzzling car. I pay $80 Canadian to fill it up from a quarter tank to full. Then, I am good to drive for four weeks (now a week since my kid got his driver's license, but oh well). No range anxiety, no need to build an expensive garage to protect it from the cold, lots of mechanics know how to fix it, and best of all, I can fill it up in less than five minutes. I would buy a Toyota except for the fact that I buy used, and Toyotas are so good that the used ones don't depreciate much. But if I were to buy new, I would definitely buy a Toyota! You can call me a climate criminal, but hey, I didn't fly to Japan, and I am pretty sure no child labour went into building my Dodge or extracting and refining the fuel.
I haven’t had any of that either with my model 3 🤷🏻 also I don’t need to worry abt changing oil, timing belt, spark plugs etc. Never had range anxiety cuz the car includes available supercharging locations automatically in the route when needed. I park on the streets and it has never been a problem.
enjoy what makes sense. I drive an inefficient vehicle from the 90s, and put almost 1k miles on it last year. It would eat more power to keep anything charged up all year than 1-2 tanks of gas. Not to mention that cars cost 50k because all the power used to make them. If you barely drive at all, gas vehicles will make sense at least another 10 years. By then many more issues will be worked out. EVs should be solidly cheaper than ICE in 5-6 years.
Did you type into chatGPT 'write me a comment with as many anti-EV cliches possible'? I love never having to stop anywhere, ever, to charge my car. Just plug it in at home every week or so to keep it topped up and never even think about running out of power. Also it's the best and cheapest car I have ever driven. Each to their own.
@@ralphstern2845 is it true that china is building 1 new coal fired power plant every month and they are using those to charge electric cars? Sounds like a ponzi scheme to me. Car tail pipes don't make the first page of things ruining the planet in my opinion.
EV Propagandists don't understand the downsides and environmental impact of battery tech. And these idiots come and ask: what's wrong with other people. What is wrong with trying to develop hydrogen cars btw?
Hydrogen needs much more electricity to make than using it directly into a car (if you want to make it clean of course). I think it was 3 to 4 times more. Not saying it's crap though (contrary to EV haters that dismiss anything out of their habits). It could be useful for some places, although battery technology is progressing very fast currently. If you speak of only fabricating the battery, then yes it does harm the environment. But you build the battery to use it (don't you ?), and that's where you get all the benefits. Getting petrol and refining it is not green and can never become green. Electricity has the power to become greener and greener. Living in France, we already have quite a high level of green-ness.
E.V's are crap at the moment. The deprecation up to 33% ( carwow ) they all over estimate the mileage on a full charge. Replacing the battery cost almost the same as the car. Some charging prices are more than gas prices. The list goes on.
All new technologies drop in price and get better over time. I recommend you wait, all S shaped adoption curves need the reluctant few to be last. It’s not a bad thing. The Amish still ride horses
@@stevestesla9120 you would be negative if you lose $60,000 value on tesla in two years. i am keeping 20 years old Honda. very efficient and reliable. probably doing good for environment too.
Because you'd buy a used car if you actually cared about the environment instead of virtue signaling the same as any other EV person. It's the disposable constant need for the newest and greatest culture that needs to change
Sloppy, a report showing active sabotage without a refrence? My kingdom for a peer review Steve. What about how these companies conduct business? Even without BEV the Japanese were always building stuff to last, this notion of being behind the curve is correct, but there are reasons to this, sabotaging is a lame excuse for not doing your homework.
the main thing about battery is you cannot overbuild it to last (Toyota is known to tune high HP engines down to abysmal rpm for longevity reasons), you either go all in or get nothing.
@@GBR9794 Of course you can. 1. You build in a big top and bottom buffer to the battery. Meaning software limitations that stop you using the full 'real' (nominal) capacity of the battery. 2. You limit charging speed through software. 3. You throttle performance when the battery goes beyond a pre-determined limit say 35 degrees celsius. By comparison a Tesla Model S (palladium) allows the batteries to reach 60 degrees before throttling charging performance. A good example of this comes from the Honda-E. It has 20% of its battery capacity blocked off via software. Despite having a modern liquid cooled battery it could only charge at an average of 32kW (10-80%). Whereas the Mini SE, which is almost identical on paper had only about 10% of its battery blocked off and could charge at 44kW (10-80%).
Hydrogen is going nowhere in passenger cars, far to inefficient to be economically viable. Just check the energy needed to drive 100 km on hydrogen with that needed for 100 km in a BEV. No contest!
Did you see the Global EV sales chart at 7:30 ? Sales are still growing YOY. You can't conclude on anything just because of a few months slow down. We are still on track for 17 million EVs in 2024. not exponential growth at the moment but still growth! and new EVs are becoming so cheap soon that it would be a no brainer for most, not to buy because of the much lower running costs!
despite a small number of data-averse "we have our own facts" types saying this, and indeed pointing out for 10 years running how true it is, its a lie. The world cannot consume more EVs than factories can build. Tesla correctly anticipated the current lul, and has been working out production of the famous CT, which took a lot of M3/Y production down. So they are in fact selling fewer cars for a few months, but building an entire new factory in Mexico which should be for the next price drop model, which should compete with non-luxury models like Civics and Corollas and the ghosts of cars Ford doesn't make anymore. The "sales are dropping" myth will continue no matter what!
I agree, I think everyone naturally craves the EV experience today, and we are obviously being thwarted by conspirators. But here are a few things you can do meanwhile if you're still stuck with an ICE car: Fill half your tank with rocks, increasing weight and reducing range. Chuck a few more in every time you fill up. Avoid using more than 60% of the remaining capacity. Cut that in half again if it's chilly out. Lightly squeeze the gas pump so it takes an hour to fill up. Alternately, fill up in 2 minutes, then go to the back of a lonely parking lot with no shelter or amenities... and just soak up that atmosphere for an hour. Take up aggressive panhandling, forcing the general public to help make your car payments for you. Put a large bumper sticker on it, telling other drivers about your moral superiority. Disconnect your alternator, so you are forced to plug the car into a charger every night, this will also force you to ration luxuries like heat and AC When you come to sell the car, insist on accepting only half of what you are offered.
battery degradation and inefficient grid charging is the problem. EVs only make sense if charged from wind or Solar ,til Toyota will develop safe reliable sodium batteries
In times of technological change, the old industry has the wrong workforce and the management has no vision on the new products. I'm your age and have witnessed and studied many technological changes and a nation only makes a chance if it can overhaul the whole industry and start asap from scratch with a new workforce and management. A slow transition bankrupts the old industry, confuses customers and gives the new industry a hard time to build up. Japan, EU and USA are not doing that and we see that once passed the early adopters the other consumers are slowing down the adoption with as a result that their own industry cant make the transformation and is doomed. The only way the USA, EU and Japan can save their industry is by shutting down the ICE production much sooner, giving their own industry a home market adopting the new technology. Otherwise you get the effect that consumers drag their feet and start to cripple their own industry making the change. Let the Japanese government talk to the Swiss politicians of the 80s, people that remember how that whole industry went bankrupt and was bought for peanuts by a fashion watch maker.
Hello, thank you for the best feedback I have ever had. Yes. This is a Kodak moment for the global automotive industry. That is why we are seeing the new disrupters such as Tesla and China taking over. They are not held back by legacy traditions. If it’s ok I might use your text in a future video. Cheers
It’s fascinating how Toyota has such a lead on being the “green” car with the Prius. Then just squandered it by doing nothing for 10 years. They could be one of the world’s leading EV makers by now!
is it misinformation that EV lost 60% of value last two years? a girl on tik tok was saying that she lost $60,000 on Tesla in two years.. where as toyota hybrids lose around 10%. how is it environmental buy a tesla, idf it end up in junk yard in 5 years? when 90s toyotas are still on the road?
Some people end up keeping some cars for a really long time, but the average age cars get junked I'd only 14 years. Today's EVs will outlast that on their original battery provided you don't have a crash.
I wonder if there's any relation in the Tama cars and Tama drums. 3:18 A dude was just cooked alive in his Tesla not too far from me in the past week. It even made the local news, which is pro-EV.
Yes, there is a job protection angle to preventing Chinese EV’s entering the USA. That will hold back US innovation though and Americans will pay more for EV’s. I can see why Biden has to do it short term
@@stevestesla9120 From what I have heard, China has a heavy tariff on foreign cars being imported into China, sounds like they are just protecting their manufacturing and jobs, seems it is fine if USA does the same.
@@stevestesla9120 imo hydrogen has a future in aviation, naval and locomotives.... actually china now is coming out with hydrogen bikes an alternative to e-bikes
Interesting that you called Toyota marketing their products (advertising) lobbying. Don’t mix politics with market trends. Whether EVs or any emerging trends will survive the free market isn’t because of Toyota marketing. It is because the free market always picks the best product for the best price. EV has managed to reached this level of popularity because of huge subsidies. Now that many countries has stopped subsidizing EVs. The real free market will test EVs. And the initial results don’t really favor EVs. Hybrids are as cheap as ICE cars and get about 40% better efficiency. EVs is still a hassle when it comes to ownership charging is such a pain especially when you are not an elite who owns a garage.
I agree with you. The lobbying bit is where Toyota have actually lobbied the Australian government to water down our fuel efficiency standards. That’s not marketing
@@stevestesla9120 to be fair, all automakers have asked governments to be more lenient on emissions standards. So the reaction is that governments have adjusted the rules to allow hybrids into the new laws. This is great for consumers because hybrids are priced the same as regular combustion cars today. The technology has finally matured to be the same price as conventional car after 25 years. If you trace back hybrids sales, it was never popular until now. Why? Because of the price of course. The first popular EV is the model S which came out in 2012. Add 25 years and it will be the same price as a regular car with the same capabilities such as range, speed of refill and cheap repairs and longevity. Thats year 2037 - keep that in mind.
Toyota was right about Hybrids. All other car companies realize toyota was right. If we want to make the largest impact on the environment by increasing MPG, we can make 10 hybrids for the same amount of batteries used in only one EV. Hybrids are 30% more efficient, do the math.
Yes, tie up batteries in a car that sits on someone's driveway most of the time. Those batteries would be better spent on Semi tractor trailers that run 50 hours per week and currently burn diesel, or public transportation and taxis. Maybe we can ban dirty diesel cargo ships or vacation cruise liners. Build goods locally.
Thanks for your comments, i don’t know why you even watch this stuff if you are so against it. I seem to get a lot of similar comments on different videos, it makes me wonder if there is a website somewhere where you cut and paste this stuff from.can you send me the link please? Cheers
@@stevestesla9120I'm not a subscriber, youtube recommended the video. It was a good video although my beliefs differ somewhat from yours. The comments I write are my real beliefs, someone in another comment said they thought someone who disagreed was using AI to generate the comment. I am not sure why people don't understand that there are other people who come to different conclusions about things. The comments are for expressing viewpoints even if it is not agreeing with the video.
