This segment was about a brilliant man dropping gems. Giving wisdom!!! His analogy in referencing Jazz with American everyday societal issues was a thing of beauty!
Brilliant! It touched on something Bill talked about a few weeks back. The very definition of harmony. Two different sounds coming together to sound like one. Want to know why the arts and music are vital to education? The answer is right here. Instead of cutting these subjects in curricula, we should be investing in them. The world might be a better place.
And how peeps can operate at that level? Not nearly enough and like he said, groups are a whole other animal. We have United State Senators saying Biden should be impeached. For no other reason than to throw out an attack. Good luck coming together with info wars peeps, millions of them, maga, millions of them, hard right religious people, millions of them. With our systems and structure failing to bond all of us together, kum by ya is a pipe dream
@@Bubbles99718 I appreciate what you’re saying about the millions. And some portion of them are definitely never going to be nice people, but so many of them are good honest people who’ve been misled. As Twain put it, “it’s easier to fool people than it is to convince them they’ve been fooled.” For certain a lot of doubling down, but the long arc of history - I still believe - bends towards justice. Will it take work? Yes. Will it be difficult? Yes. Can it happen? Absolutely yes. We have to remain hopeful. What are we as a species if we don’t have hope?
@@jamesfrangione8448 Hope springs eternal and it's been wishful thinking about trump since the escalator ride. About him and his supporters. As for the long arc of history, there have been entire epochs that lasted millenia where, for lack of a better word, evil has prevailed. 74 million people voted for trump, AFTER HIS 4 YEARS of insanity. That begs the question, with that many, what is America?
In the interview reminded me of a quote from LBJ. 'If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets fir you." Reminds me of todays Republican party.
Exactly how rich whites got away with slavery for so long. They kept poor white just above everyone else to humanize their atrocities. They are doing it today clearly with poor whites, again. I feel bad they are getting played and don't realize it because they're so mad at people that arnt affecting them. I noticed it with mass shootings. My buddy brought up thr gun violence in Chicago I said "those people are killing their neighbors. These white men are driving across states to murder people that are not in their community, that's the bad part." I do stand up and I love passing off crowds. I make a joke where the punchline is "I wonder what that dudes Playlist was when he drove 9 hours to kill those Spanish folks at Walmart" people boo but it's like, did you not pick up what I just put down. He had to drive NINE hours to find people he hated. That's a problem. Also, my buddy's dad owns a gun shop, he has had to actually start vetting white folks he sells to because he's seen a noticeable tick in the clients that are trying to buy guns. "Ima be honest Tony, the white boys who come into the shop lately scare me. Kinda don't wanna sell them any guns "
I credit Wynton and Charlie Parker for my love of music. I started playing jazz sax when I was 15. We watched a video on the history of jazz and started learning theory and improv. Because of that I now play 8 instruments and am teaching my son. He wants a trumpet :) Thank you for everything Wynton!
Wynton, have you tryed Amtrak lately? You might like to try renting a sleeping car. They even have showers in your room. I think that you can take meals either in the Dinning Car or in your room.
Weed doesnt fall into the realm of drugs in the manner of which you speak. . It is unique in the effect it has. It mellows ppl out. The hard drugs is another story. I battled alcoholism. It is accepted to drink. I almost lost my life to alcohol. It was hell tht merry go round. Take care. Stay straight
@@hellooutthere8956It also makes many people silly. As far as mellowing out, I'm not sure about that either. Have you ever heard of Trenchtown in Jamaica? They smoke plenty there, but it has a violent reputation. If you are not already mellow to some degree, pot is not going to change your personality much. I don't like my perception supposedly enhanced by anything, if my natural senses are functionally adequate. Street drugs changes ones perception and mood. It is subjective, as to whether it enhances them. I'd rather trust my natural senses, when it comes to hearing music, or anything else for that matter, especially if something else, has a chance of making me a slave to it. My own sense did enough of that with sugar, early in my life. I don't like the feeling at all, of being controlled by something outside of me. Taking mind altering substances of any kind, can be dangerous to varying degrees. Checks and balances should accompany their use. That is not stresses enough in society. Everyone reacts differently to foreign substances that enters their body. It is irresponsible for someone to even encourage another person to use drugs, just because you like them, and they do little to no harm to you. Black people especially youth, suffer greater from any negative effects pot can have on a person, but few of us seem to accept that reality. It is a form of structural disparity, that many see as racism, but it is something that we have the primary responsibility to consider, and protect ourselves from. How much has smoking pot contributed to the disruptive environment in so many Black urban schools? Introducing pot to children, who have been poorly parented, is like pouring gasoline on a fire. Add to that, the availability of negative audio and video images, to them 24/7, and what we see is what you get.
3:35 Miles actually went out of his way to create friction between members of his band. Gary Bartz told a story about how Keith Jarrett was playing all this crazy stuff over his solo, so Gary went to Miles and told him he wasn't happy with how Keith was comping. Miles said he'd talk to him. After that, Keith is doing even MORE of the crazy stuff, while looking at Gary and smiling. Gary was furious. Years later James Mtume told him what really happened. Miles called Keith into the room and said; "Keith... Gary loves what you're doing, and he wants more...."
Musicians and comedians are among the wisest people. Glad I'm a comic. I'd say entertainers in general. It's oddly weird thing, to be apart of a fraternity through profession. The only other way I can describe it is like when you're riding a motorcycle and see a motorcycle about to pass you, you throw your left hand in a positive gesture whether you know them or not it's about the bond of sharing something that not everyone does. When I do stans up, I'm not there for the crowd, I want the other comics in the back to laugh and that's a win.
I like his INSTANTLY coz of his incredible talent & music even without knowing his Philosophy. Only the BIGOT would view him initially through the race/color prism thus would need TIME to allow him grow on their racist ass !
Winton said it perfectly, and I have believed the same thing from simple observation of ANY RACE of people. One on one? Completely changes when in a group of their own cultural peers, or even worse? Their male or female counterparts.
True. In a group , it's herd mentality strength and insanity in numbers. Remove the group and meet one on one all protections are gone and the soul is exposed.
What an absolute gem of an episode💎 I heard a lot of well thought out points, many that have been said by others- but not quite as eloquently I thoroughly enjoyed listening to Wynton
Yes individual people are different than people in groups. I like people, but I hate the effects of population. I like immigrates, but I hate the effects of immigration. Life is nuisance.
"Democracy doesn't mean spreading terror."- DaShanne Stokes "Democracy" has given the American people higher prices on energy, services, and consumer goods; people losing their jobs because they wouldn't get a shot and people getting arrested for not wearing a mask; more people depending on taxpayer dollars coming across our southern borders; more violent crimes on the streets and less law enforcement to protect the people; more people using and selling addictive drugs and many dying from them; a worsening of public education. The only ones not affected by "democracy" are wealthy enough to avoid it and they're the ones yelling out that our democracy is being threatened. Are we so naïve to think the wealthy waste their precious time to cast a vote? By the way, "MAGA" is an acronym for "Make America Great Again". Seems like the Democrats are against that.
How I love when great people agree with me. I've been expounding this idea of jazz band as democracy for years. I knew it couldn't my own original idea- maybe I picked it up in a Nat Hentoff book(?))- so it's good to hear Wynton talk about it. Also, I'm grateful to W.M. & Ken Burns for the JAZZ doc series. It opened up the music of Louis Armstrong for me, once & for all, & there are stories of how the music has affected society. For example, the tale of how a young law student's night out in Houston(?) hearing Armstrong's hot music led indirectly to school desegregation. Watch!
I remember in a Grad level Musicology class at Indiana U, Chamber Music Literature with the renowned, late A. Peter Brown, when I read an article from 200 or more years ago in which chamber music was intended to be like a “conversation” - not dominated by anyone, but with equally valuable interactions. Not so different from the ideas here.
Bill it is very distasteful making jokes about someone when they die. This takes away from your serious issue's and interviews. Unfortunately it did on one of the greatest musicians. 😕
of course you can impeach a drummer. you can impeach a teacher/your dad/mom, anybody... and sometimes ridiculously any thing. It's to call into question of validity or function of a dynamic.
As much as racism and sexism has affected my life I still don't meet or speak to someone that looks like that trauma, like they caused it. I've never done that, seems wrong. Has it happened to me, a lot.
Sure, Armstrong fathered jazz music by transforming it from a backdrop for cabarets and speakeasies into a formidable art form that transcended race and class. Less known is his role in bringing pot into pop culture. It didn’t start with the hippies or the Beatniks. They got it from Louis and the vipers in the ’20s, when jazz was born in a cloud of ganja smoke. Just as Louis conquered the jazz world, he was the king of the vipers, a huge subculture of stoners that thrived in the last days of legal pot. Armstrong was also a freedom fighter. He went to jail for pot in 1931 and had a brush with the law over it in 1954. Occasionally his activist views breached the facade created by his manager, such as when he locked horns with President Eisenhower over racism in Little Rock, Arkansas. Not only was the public watching him, the FBI opened a secret file on him as well.
Think whatever you want, just do it critically and with as much intellectual honesty as you are capable. The 5 Steps to Critical Thinking: What is critical thinking? In general, critical thinking refers to actively questioning statements rather than blindly accepting them. Critical thinking results in radical free will. 1. The critical thinker is flexible yet maintains an attitude of healthy skepticism. Critical thinkers are open to new information, ideas, and claims. They genuinely consider alternative explanations and possibilities. However, this open-mindedness is tempered by a healthy sense of skepticism (Hyman, 2007). The critical thinker consistently asks, “What evidence supports this claim?” 2. The critical thinker scrutinizes the evidence before drawing conclusions. Critical thinkers strive to weigh all the available evidence before arriving at conclusions. And, in evaluating evidence, critical thinkers distinguish between empirical evidence versus opinions based on feelings or personal experience. 3. The critical thinker can assume other perspectives. Critical thinkers are not imprisoned by their own points of view. Nor are they limited in their capacity to imagine life experiences and perspectives that are fundamentally different from their own. Rather, the critical thinker strives to understand and evaluate issues from many different angles. 4. The critical thinker is aware of biases and assumptions. In evaluating evidence and ideas, critical thinkers strive to identify the biases and assumptions that are inherent in any argument (Riggio & Halpern, 2006). Critical thinkers also try to identify and minimize the influence of their own biases. 5. The critical thinker engages in reflective thinking. Critical thinkers avoid knee-jerk responses. Instead, critical thinkers are reflective. Most complex issues are unlikely to have a simple solution. Therefore, critical thinkers resist the temptation to sidestep complexity by boiling an issue down to an either/or, yes/no kind of proposition. Instead, the critical thinker expects and accepts complexity (Halpern, 2007). Critical thinking is not a single skill, but rather a set of attitudes and thinking skills. As is true with any set of skills, you can get better at these skills with practice. In a nut shell, critical thinking is the active process of minimizing preconceptions and biases while evaluating evidence, determining the conclusions that can be reasonably be drawn from evidence, and considering alternative explanations for research findings or other phenomena. CRITICAL THINKING QUESTIONS >Why might other people want to discourage you from critical thinking? >In what situations is it probably most difficult or challenging for you to exercise critical thinking skills? Why? > What can you do or say to encourage others to use critical thinking in evaluating questionable claims or assertions?
In Miles Davis' autobiography, he told the story of throwing Wynton Marsalis off the stage (not physically but making him leave) when Mr. Marsalis appeared unexpectedly.
The only issue I have with Bill mahr,isn't with him really...but its the fact that he's a COMEDIAN, he says things FOR LAUGHS, yet ppl take his opinions like gospel and fact...when alot of what he says is LITERALLY SAID JUST FOR A REACTION. He's said this HIMSELF ffs, and yet there are ppl on here saying he should control foreign policy and his opinions of Republicans are TRUTH, not hyperbolic vitriol targeted at an audience that NEEDS to hear how much better than everyone else they are. Leftists are the ultimate narcissists. Only a liberal could make another races suffering about THEIR BEING OFFENDED FOR THEM....(one small example). If a republican has a black man on to speak, theyre "using him as a prop, or he's brainwashed" yet if someone like bill has one on he's INTELLECTUAL AND RACIALLY SENSITIVE (check that in the hypocrisy column
"An apartment sayan would find accommodation without raising suspicions, a bank sayan could get you money if you needed it in the middle of the night, a doctor sayan would treat a bullet wound without reporting it to the police, and so on. The idea is to have a pool of people available when needed who can provide services but will keep quiet about them out of loyalty to the cause. They are paid only costs. Often the loyalty of sayanim is abused by katsas who take advantage of the available help for their own personal use. There is no way for the sayan to check this. One thing you know for sure is that even if a Jewish person knows it is the Mossad, he might not agree to work with you- but he won't turn you in. You have at your disposal a nonrisk recruitment system that actually gives you a pool of millions of Jewish people to tap from outside your own borders. It's much easier to operate with what is available on the spot, and sayanim offer incredible practical support everywhere. But they are never put at risk-nor are they privy to classified information. Suppose during an operation a katsa suddenly had to come up with an electronics store as a cover. A call to a sayan in that business could bring 50 television sets, 200 VCRS-whatever was needed from his warehouse to your building, and in next to no time, you'd have a store with $3 or $4 million worth of stock in it. Since most Mossad activity is in Europe, it may be preferable to have a business address in North America. So, there are address sayanim and telephone sayanim. If a katsa has to give out an address or a phone number, he can use the sayan's. And if the sayan gets a letter or a phone call, he will know immediately how to proceed. Some business sayanim have a bank of 20 operators answering phones, typing letters, faxing messages, all a front for the Mossad. The joke is that 60 percent of the business of those telephone answering companies in Europe comes from the Mossad. They'd fold otherwise. The one problem with the system is that the Mossad does not seem to care how devastating it could be to the status of the Jewish people in the diaspora if it was known. " [BY WAY OF DECEPTION, Victor Ostrovsky, 1990]
That's why can be super white and find out that have black genetics. Nobody knows just like nowadays, but clearer nowadays, who fell in love with who and had children, no matter what colors combining and keep reproducing, but had in common that lived among each other all equally poor and mainly agriculturist, like share croppers. Racism is usually just the effects of cohabitation problems, is a product of simple mindedness frustrations, because aren't powerful enough to change the overall keeping all as poor people. End up blaming on each other.
People openly smoked marijuana and it was even in the movies until the "Code". Watch the 1932 movie Jewel Robbery with William Powell. In one scene he offers a gentleman a "pleasant harmless smoke."
United States Politics is messy because it's jazz, apparently. Not only that: you have Wynton Marsalis's consent to use jazz as a metaphor to make U.S. politics look good, so nobody can argue with that.🙄
How disrespectful to call anyone by their colors ? Black & Browns come to mind ? Terrible. Stop allowing others to categorize you ! We are all equal and one doesn’t get extra because they want that !
I am so sick of the loud clappers on this show every week that constantly interrupt the dialogue to be loud and annoying. Show your loud appreciation after they finish or only during rare select moments, not after every single godamn point. I get you're probably a producer or something dude, but please just quiet down a bit.
lol, that's exactly what they do to the chinese, japanese, korean, vietnamese, we're all grouped together to be yellows(asians), when has a racist (or even regular black/white person) been able to tell us apart?
3:10 - 3:16 'How can we use our form to address the issue at hand (which is swinging and sounding good)? And how can I work with you in the space and find a way to swing?...'
It's funny, I really don't usually enjoy listening to jazz. I don't enjoy Mr Marsalis's music. But I am eternally grateful that we were graced with his talents.
The sad thing is most of the people in the audience refuse to be around people with different opinions. Yet clap for his statements of excepting others.
The most dramatic example of what he said right in the beginning - which is so true, of all of us - is how we do that to "men." When we think about the men we know, we're often very compassionate, totally normal people. But when we think about "men" in the abstract, we become almost (actually) positively sociopathic. It's so bizarre that even the statement that "male lives matter"... it becomes one of the most insane things, one of the most ludicrous things you could possibly think. Because we already so overvalue the lives of men that we are affronted by being asked to consider whether or not we value them at all? I mean, it just sounds like something Putin or Stalin or Attila the Hun would think.
U impeach a drummer by putting eye drops into his water bottle's contents // the last freedom is the freedom to be able to play music without song/sound, the spirit does not reach its highest realm (paraphrasing Bulworth the movie).
Like Baldwin // wicked smart // fear of flying led zepp too had that challenge i do not (not due to a lack of wings) fly due to My Ears have to POP // stay safe
"Such is also the harsh logic of industrial automation. All that we had previously achieved mechanically by great exertion and coordination can now be done electrically without effort. Hence the specter of joblessness and propertylessness in the electric age. Wealth and work become information factors, and totally new structures are needed to run a business or relate it to social needs and markets." [Understanding Media, Marshall McLuhan, 1964, Ch. Automation]
These are interesting comments Marsalis is making about jazz being all inclusive. I remember a time - about 20, 25 years ago - when he was making contrary statements along the lines of jazz being singularly African-American and whity need not apply. I'm glad to hear him saying what he's saying. Maybe the guy's thinking has evolved.
