X2 (2003) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | MOVIE REACTION 

Actually, they are father and son.

@@stevenmcmullan409 Actually not..The father is Azazel(yet to be seen)

​@@PanzerShrek94Azazel was in xmen first class and mentioned again in xmen days of futures past

@Panzershrek You might want to get caught up on modern comics

@@PanzerShrek94 You need to catch up on the comics.

You are absolutely right-Wolverine’s actions in this sequence are beyond reproach.

100% L0gan tried t0 be civil by merely restraining the s0ldier like a c0mm0n burglar ("Y0u picked the wr0ng h0use, bub.") and then the s0ldier fired his submachine gun 0n full AUT0 at a teenage b0y and came after L0gan with a knife. S0.....time t0 die, bub, y0u DID pick with wr0ng h0use.

Logan X or Logan Roy?

Well, he was designated as the babysitter by Charles so he just took his job very seriously.

I'd sleep better at night knowing Logan was my protector.

In what? Logic?

@@Rikitikisiki and not being a bitch (take notes)

@@Rikitikisiki In a way, yeah, but it's more than that. She's not a comic book person who knows this stuff, but she's getting good at keeping track of the finer points of complex stories like this, such as who has what power and what that makes them capable of

Yeah if I remember correctly, Jackman also thought they were a made up creature sorta like a werewolf and was talking with someone on set when they informed him they were real and he could see one at the nearby zoo

Alan Cumming was great as Nightcrawler, but sadly he elected not to return as he hated the make-up process, and how long it took to get into character. The tie-in video game to the third X-Men movie explained his absence by saying he disliked the violent nature of the team's lifestyle and adventures and chose to leave the team.

So underused. And I have no idea why.

In the comic it's always been eluded that Nightcrawler (the blue guy with the tail) is related to Mystique. Notice simular skin color? And also in the comics, the secret facility that Logan was taken to for the adamantium grafting was a Canadian secret lab. He then was in a Canadian superhero team called Alpha Flight.

Disagree. He looked cool and his powers were depicted excellently, but his characterization is way off. In the comics, Nightcrawler is a light-hearted, swashbuckling, jovial fellow. Cummings depicted him as morose and introspective. Not like the source material at all. Watch X-Men 97 for an accurate depiction of him.

It is too bad we would never see his Nightcrawler return. No offense to Kodi Smit McPhee, but Alan Cumming does Kurt Wagner more justice. Not just with the makeup, which I understand, not easy to wear constantly; similar to Jennifer Lawrence in the prequels. But also, I like with how Alan portrayed the misunderstood demon who puts his faith in God when others have forsaken and shunned him. By accepting and forgiving their flaws, he, too, can accept and forgive any flaws he sees in himself.

Somebody should have told that to the writers of X-Men Origins Wolverine! 😂

I thought they meant in the movie, lol.. cuz it would've been interesting seeing that Nightcrawler would show her affection later on.

@@callmeshaggy5166 Yes that's what she meant I'm sure, and it was nice to see a connection develop between Storm and Nightcrawler

That was the right question for everything.

@@ribbitrebecca So true,they connected on a cerebral level,which I liked.

I have always had a crush on Halle Berry !

And she was gorgeous!

​@spiritconsumer Well, she was a model, and it makes sense why they have her as Mystique.

Rebecca will always be my Mystique.

Rebecca was really hot. Not the most well known, but a prime example of 90's beauty. Before lip fillers and butt implants.

​@@aix42 Agreed. 🤔Jennifer Who?

Yup in High School. Good times. Pretty much universally loved at the time.

i was there

Saw it twice in theaters 🎥 😊

Yes sir. Opening scene was amazing

Yup.

But maybe not stop the momentum?

“Can’t Bobby just freeze it all?” I know little about the X-Men lore but what I do remember I think Iceman and Storm both have the ability to affect planetary scale changes. So at full power probably but they generally nerf the heck out of people in movies or for plot armor.

@@Desmond9100he probably could’ve created an ice dam at least.

Well I heard a line from Nightcrawler who at the time said he couldn't use his powers because Jean blocked them. Presumably that's why none of them could do anything at that point.

​@@rigrmortis3393 weeell, we saw Storm/Ororo easily conjure up multiple tornados and control them while flying a plane, and using them to defend against missiles. If she has that much fine control over storms, lightning, rain, etc, a minor flood like that dam breaking should have been easy for her. In the comics she WOULD have done it while casually chilling out on a sofa. Unfortunately for plot reasons they massively tuned her down. She is one of three omega level mental power characters in the cartoon that have shown up in the movies. I won't spoiler who the others are. Logan's healing factor is at an omega level as well, but that's about it for him as it is purely physical and passive, so he doesn't classify as a true omega level.

Not only that, it's from the same provence that they and I are from

Yep - my thoughts too!!

Admit it, Wolverine sounds like an Australian animal! Lol

Also, once from my state of Michigan, hence the U of M Wolverines, tho sadly we have no actual wolverines anymore.

City girls

For sure. Hope they do it eventually!

My personal favorite introduction of Logan.

This! I hope they watch it soon.

After Logan. First class is more like reboot and I really want to see their reaction to Logan

Hey, no spoilers. There's a couple of movies before that. Let's all enjoy their surprise. Yeah?

It's just too bad that he's far too pretty and a foot too tall to play the extremely hairy 5'3" Logan.

@@AaronLitz I wouldn’t mind a shorter wolverine for the next version but for me Hugh nailed the character. The writing may have let him down at times but Hugh was born for the role. I think Tom hardy would’ve been a fantastic successor

Wheels and Claws, together again...

And a perfect counter weight in McKellen's Magneto. The trio made the series work.

@@rana1561 couldn’t agree more. You needed Shakespearean stage actors for the first take on these characters and they were perfect for these roles

And telegenic!

She was also a well-known model in New York, about the time Mary-Jane Watson ( of Spider-Man fame ) and Patsy Walker ( later the superheroine Hellcat ) as well.

Quite right.

The Power that Jean processes is not just her mutant abilities... The Phoenix, is an actual cosmic intity, and creature of pure raw emotion.

Wolverine's first appearance was not even as a mutant at all, just a Canadian super agent / super hero send to keep a rampaging Hulk in check.

​@@Tuning3434Nah, he was a mutant. Len Wein, the writer who created him, had heard that X-Men was going to be getting rebooted soon, with an international cast, so he made Wolverine a mutant so he could join if they liked the character. Then he actually got tapped to write Giant-Size X-Men, so he made sure to include him on the team!

Plus, Library and Archives Canada has the record of enlistment in WWI of James 'Logan' Howlett. 😁

Logan is based upon an actor in a film about an ice hockey team: 'Slap Shot'. The writer and artist back then were both Canadians, one of British descent, so this was both funny and enormously successful.

5'3"

For those who knew went wild in the theater

We nerds all lost our poop

@@MarktheAirsoftPrimate🤣 yes we did lose it

Jean's codename: Phoenix

That moment in the theater everyone cheered so loudly. That and the lake scene at the end with the "bird" under the water.

Happy Birthday 🎉. Hope you have a lovely day!

Happy Birthday! 🥳🥳🥳27 is a fantastic age. Enjoy.

The best there is at what he does, but what he does best isn't very nice.

It also makes him a great lighting rod.

@@voltinator Is adamantium actually conductive, that's the question.

He's only called Wolverine because Badger doesn't sound nearly as cool. LOL Check out the fan fiction short film WOLVERINE vs PREDATOR - Super Power Beat Down (Episode 9), it's actually pretty good.

So....Anti-Hero?

Often why he's classed as an "Anti-Villain", and often ends up on the Heroes side. He and Charles are based on Martin Luther King Junior and Malcolm X, both with similar goals, but different methods.

He doesn't think things through though. Mutants are being born from "normal" humans so if he wipes out all the normies, the number of new and unique mutants coming into existence will stop or at least slow down.

I think Erik Lehnsherr is that character who skirts on an anti-hero (a character of a story who lacks traditional characteristics that are associated with a conventional hero. While typically guided by the best of intentions, the anti-hero is a classically flawed character with a history of bad decisions and a questionable moral code) and an anti-villain (a villain whose goals or ends are generally benevolent, but their means of getting there are evil. They don't care about what they have to do to enact their master plan). Humanity failed him at a very young age (Holocaust), and then tried using his abilities for evil purposes, and at the end, we are somehow surprised that he turns on those people, and insists on using proven tactics in order to secure and protect mutants. We can understand how Erik ends up becoming so contemptuous of humanity, and is willing to use some very foul tactics to make them pay. For Erik, humanity will inevitably try to destroy all of the mutants, be it out of fear or envy, or whatever other motivating factor involved, and he cares more about the mutants; HIS people.

And I don't get it why they are constantly mispronouncing his name. It's "Lehns-Herr" (German for liege/feudal lord), not "Lehn-Sherr".

His goals are completly understandable, his methods are the questionable part

I thought she said in the last video that she's already seen Deadpool. I guess she doesn't recognize this Colossus as another version of that one.

@@jlilley73 Gets reminded of that 'other' role Ryan Reynolds played in X-man Origins : Wolverine.... I'm depressed now.

Is he the same guy from Deadpool? Is he supposed to be Russian?

Colossus (Metal Man) is supposed to be Russian

@@jlilley73 Yes that's probably case. This was an early glimpse of Colossus and if he wasn't named in the film then I can understand why she missed who it was.

Lol i loved the fact she knew kame hand gesture 😂

You’d be hard pressed to find someone who doesn’t know anything about Dragon ball z.

@@313gwar Praying Dragonball Evolution will never appear on this channel.

​@313gwar I am that rare person. I had friends growing up who watched it, and for some reason it never appealed to me. I only know the memes.

It's likely Cassie's kids watch it. If they do then they've almost certainly screamed while "powering up" or "transforming" before blasting their favorite energy attack.

Doesn't surprise me they gave up on the height thing. Hugh Jackman was the focus, and so good in the part they wanted him to look as heroic as possible. Which meant axing some of the quirks of the character.

I think Doom has a very strong argument of his own.

Movie would be funnier if everyone who met Wolverine kept remarking on how much he stinks.

Mustelidae, so they're in the same family as weasels, badgers, fishers, otters, martens, ferrets, minks, etc... probably one of the coolest family of mammals in existence. Mustelidae are cousins to Mephitidae, which skunks belong to.

Skunkerine.

What do you mean by that ?

@@lexkanyima2195 They say Colossus looks like a Terminator. And in Rocky 4, they say Drago looks like a Terminator.

Personally I hope they do Gambit well in MCU X-Men... but yeah it was nice seeing Nightcrawler get the spotlight in this one

In regards to Madame Web, I knew just from the trailer that it was an underwhelming story. There are a lot of Spider-Man characters that are intriguing, but they need Spider-Man to make things more interesting. With any and all MCU X-Men movies, they really need to do the team justice. One thing that I think can help, and this is just my opinion, is avoiding anything regarding the Phoenix until the characters are more established in the MCU. That whole saga is a nightmare to try and get right in live action. The animated series did a good job because they were allowed to do it over several episodes. Trying to cram it into a roughly two hour movie just causes a lot of context to go missing.

I thought Nightcrawler's story arc was one of the most engaging character stories of this film.

I really enjoyed the two episodes from the X-Men animated series from the 1990's that Nightcrawler appeared in. I'm really glad that he's been shown a bit more in the X-Men '97 series and hope that he becomes a mainstay on the team from now on.

Yes this was a big tonal shift from the first one. Thinking about it compared to most superhero films in general it is one of the most full on in respect to how much violence is shown. Even compared to more recent superhero films. I'm surprised that many scenes in this weren't censored.

@@CoffeeConnected they kind of mostly were censored. Other than red lines in wolverine fights and maybe a few scenes with blood (glass chamber), it was mostly just implied deaths. Not that it was badly done, or even that blood and gore would have made the movie better. It was definitely censored from what it could have been though.

One other power Wolverine has that they don’t make super clear in the movies. He can go into a Berzerker Rage and lose it.

What you gotta do to get PG-13. R movies historically just means less population can pay to watch your production in theaters. Dead Pòol was not just a freak successful movie. It was a wildly successful R movie. ​@@DomSithe

Him killing that guy was like "OMG HE ACTUALLY USED HIS CLAWS ON A HUMAN AND NOT JUST DUMB BOTS" I felt like my soul was washed away from years and years of Wolvi not being able to properly use his sh*t and him always having to kick/throw human adversaries over the place

Doesn't really matter, does it? That isn't his mutation, it's his Army name.

They're learneding!

And Rogue to an extent. Was watching some scenes from the animated show and the characterization is soooo different.

Which pretty much puts to bed the idea that mutants are a different species than humans.

Mystique really gets around.

@@jedijones I mean that would fit a person that using sex appeal to manipulate people constantly.

@@PhilBagels Mutants are one-offs, sometimes called 'sports' in breeding of animals and flowers. If the new / reactivated old (intron) gene is carefully preserved, or survives because it's beneficial to the descendant young, then this may, not will, result in a sub-species or even eventually a separate 'new' species. It's how there are animals in every niche in nature. How there are finches with all shapes of beaks, to eat all sizes of seed and nut, for example. If, for example, Barry Allen, the Flash, were a mutant, and all his kids were also speed-force using mutants, then he could be regarded as a sub-species of humans. If all of them had kids with 'normal' folks, and some inherited the speed and not others, then they would all be humans, not a sub-species, just a bloodline, like a line of fast racehorses.

@@stevetheduck1425 But you can't say that Bobby (Iceman) is a different species from his parents, and at the same time the same species as Ororo (Storm). If all of Iceman's kids had ice powers, and all of Storm's kids had weather powers, they wouldn't be the same species, or even the same sub-species.

Mystique likes to breed the best traits of mutants. 😂

@@3Kings_Industries She's a horndog.

That story was actually retconned fairly recently, now Nightcrawler is the son of Mystique and the mutant Destiny.

DOFP is still my favorite of the entire series, and is an amazing lead-in to the chronological flashback of FC (exploring the new timeline instead would have been great too, but just impossible to pull off.)

Also not forgetting Logan

@@MrTommygunz420 DOFP is the only reasonable choice for best in the series, sad how sharp the decline was after that.

@@MrMistreated That movie doesn't have end credit scenes.

I think after x3 they should only watch first class, DOFP and logan. All the others will probably bore them out.

The retcon made Charles and Mystique closer in age.

Yes and no

Mystique is still Nightcrawler’s parent in the comics is all I will say.

Yes, the retconned is that Mystique and her female lover are Kurt's parents. Previously, Mystique and Azazel were his parents.

Ya she's now his father....really

A lot of the casting here is spot on - Magneto and Prof. X are perfect

@@neilbiggs1353couldn’t agree more 👌🏼

He got one thing wrong, he was Wayyyyyyy to tall. Imagine Superman being short or Robin being taller than Batman. Height is a pretty defining trait for any character, and Jackman was so tall as Wolvie is like five foot five inches. Also he never showed us Wolverine unfortunately, he always showed us Logan, the civilian identity. Like, Superman+ Wolverine are the superhero persona, meaning they both wear underwear on the outside, bright colors, spandex and either a cape or mask for over 35 years, wheras Clark Kent + Logan is the civilian identity and they can walk down the street w/no problem. So if we saw Christopher Reeve flying around as Clark Kent and using his strength as Clark Kent, that would be the equivalent of how Jackman was always the civilian identity of Logan doing all the action, never getting to see Wolverine, which is the name of his SUPERHERO ego. But despite those two things, no wolvie and too tall, he is certainly a fantastic representation of the character. He LOOKED just like Logan and acted just like Logan, he was really amazing and still is. Of course they made him to look + act like Clint Eastwoods movie characters because that's who the Logan character in the comics was actually based on. Jackman was basically doing Eastwood since Logan in the comics was always portrayed to be Eastwood....so I wonder why they didn't cast Clint Eastwood for Old Man Logan??

​@@paulpolpiboon9535So, what were they supposed to do, cast a midget? The original choice for the role also would've been too tall to be comic book accurate.

​@@paulpolpiboon9535Hugh Jackman is 6 foot 3, wolverine is 5 foot 3. So yeah. Glenn Danzig is also 5 foot 3.

The claws are covered in blood? Wolverine's and maybe some of the soldier's from earlier?

@@toddlower5546 Um no in the kitchen of bobbys house wolverine pulls out his claws and a cat licks the middle claw.

​@gregkirby9059 his claws are in his hand surrounded by his skin and blood, then they cut their way through his skin. So I'd say yes, his blood and cells still could be on them.

I was gonna take issue with your calling it "ice tea" but i mean you're right

You do hear the cat whimper when he quickly retracts the claws in the kitchen, so...

You sure ?

@@lexkanyima2195 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jdEc7ImPnmI.htmlsi=QK63pA8KR__ZT8-s

I agree as well. I feel like if they did some rewrites to X-men: The Last Stand, including Gambit and cutting out the Phoenix Saga, Rogue could've been done much more justice than what they gave us. Her and Gambit meeting and forming a friendship while Rogue is on a break from Iceman, who's getting closer with Kitty Pryde would've opened the door for a future romance and build her confidence from having someone who chooses to be with her despite the risks to his life, because as Gambit in X-men '97 said, *some things are deeper than skin.* Plus, can you imagine if Rogue and Gambit had been in the lineup alongside Wolverine, Storm, Colossus, and Beast?

Thats true but realisticly among a group of mutants with the powers they have going up against soldiers with guns what could she really have done. Her mutation isent exactly suitable for anything that isent very very close combat. And even then her powers isent exactly instant.

@Shiftry87 Maybe if they had othet controlled mutant subordinates to Stryker, outside of Deathstrike, among the soldiers, it might've made it more interesting and given Rogue more to do. Can you imagine if they had Avalanche, Karma, or Black Tom there? Oh my God, I just had an idea for a rewrite.

Magneto is way less nefarious than Stryker..whether he is wrong or not .. who knows..! But ok he is wrong because his end call is dominance and not co-existance. Just like US foreign policy the last 60 years.

Wow, they said Stan Lee based it off of Martin Luther King and Malcom X . It's totally all there, I love it. Good explanation and insight.

If you know, you know!

Not just comic book readers, I watched the 90's cartoon so that's how I got it

That's Cassie's character

The reason why so many mutants have red hair, is because it's a real mutation that was popular, and so people with red hair were more likely to have kids, so red-heads are hot, attractive and a popular colour in comics. The blue or green or red mutants are basically due to the Pulp Magazines hid their cross-race romances by making an exotic alien woman such colours, like in John Carter of Mars, which was a western until someone objected to the white man falling for a red woman; the black guys became the green martians, and the white martians are the evil white men, that Joh Carter no longer feels any affinity for. Basically, science fantasy and science fiction broke the US anti-miscegenation laws to sell magazines. They also employed black writers when no-one else would, too. Star Trek DS9 covered this bit of history as well.

Oh yeah, of the original 3, this one is considered the best received by audiences.

💯💯💯💯💯

X2 and DOFP are among my favourite Superhero films, they might be flawed but they make up for that in how much heart and soul they have

Yes, one of the first X-Men stories I ever read. Marvel was putting out some kick-ass graphic novels in the early '80s. When DC made the format famous with Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen, they were following in the footsteps of Marvel who had started the adult-geared graphic novel years earlier.

At the time my friend immediately said "Phoenix" and I was like huh? All I saw was some vaguely brown algae in the water. lol