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I talk gaming news and gaming discussions. Anything from Xbox news to PlayStation news. The PlayStation 5 or the Xbox Series X, but these days I'm mostly enjoying my PC and doing game reviews. I've done game reviews for Alien: Isolation, Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 4, The Evil Within, and I've even discussed resolutions and monitors.

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@Raystorm002
@Raystorm002 4 месяца назад
Xbox has been washed up since the xbox one days. After the 360, they never had any period of time that remotely resembles those days.
@hifi4lyfe406
@hifi4lyfe406 4 месяца назад
Dude Xbox forgot the magic of making mustard.. is wut it is.
@IcyRhythmsthereal
@IcyRhythmsthereal 4 месяца назад
Damn shame
@hifi4lyfe406
@hifi4lyfe406 4 месяца назад
@@IcyRhythmsthereal Fukn Travesty in the flesh.
@devilshooter126m8
@devilshooter126m8 4 месяца назад
Sorry Icy Xbox is under new management and their name is Sayta MS Corp took over 100%
@IcyRhythmsthereal
@IcyRhythmsthereal 4 месяца назад
That's not new management lol We need completely new blood. Someone that has never had anything to do with the Xbox brand to come in there and change the culture. Otherwise, I fear it will just be more mid moving forward
@Roler42
@Roler42 4 месяца назад
We're well past the point of diminishing returns, Sony and Microsoft will need to seriously wake the fuck up, because by the end of the day, their big speeches, acquisitions and bajillion dollar investments mean jack shit if they're not doing the one thing people go to them for: Release some actual games. I don't even care about AAA or ambition or huge budgets, make a good game, go for sustainability, because that pursuit for infinite growth is well on the way to collapse, and it won't be pretty when it happens.
@Executi0ner246
@Executi0ner246 4 месяца назад
The worst part is we arent getting a clear answer from MS, just corporate talk. Closures are likely to happen to other studios that do not deliver sales wise. Its so sad man. 😢
@christopherc4770
@christopherc4770 4 месяца назад
this is what happens when they buy studios
@Anthony-sm3tn
@Anthony-sm3tn 4 месяца назад
A few oints youre leaving out. Tango released Ghostwire, which was mediocre at best. Combat didnt even have a dodge mechanic. HiFi rush, while critically received, was not an Ideal project. Doesnt have the mass appeal. So it is simple, couple dud projects, and youre out. Arkane released redfall, which was a disaster. So I dont blame microsoft.
@IcyRhythmsthereal
@IcyRhythmsthereal 4 месяца назад
Ghostwire has fans man. There are a decent handful of people that enjoyed that game. It's not like the Evil Within games set the world on fire either when they were just under Bethesda. They weren't doing Spiderman or GTA numbers in the first few months, that's for sure. I do not believe this happens if Bethesda was still operating as its own thing.
@Anthony-sm3tn
@Anthony-sm3tn 4 месяца назад
Probably right about if they were not with Microsoft.
@seebooze
@seebooze 4 месяца назад
​@IcyRhythmsthereal let's face it, MS bought Bethesda for their AAA IPs not their workforce
@guerillatactix3834
@guerillatactix3834 4 месяца назад
I left this comment on another video and I'll leave it here. Its always sad to see a company get shut down, if only just because it slightly limits the hundreds of options we get for games released per year. That being said, I personally am not that bothered about any of this. When a company acquires another there is always layoffs. Microsoft acquired a whole ass other corporation with publishing and developing under the umbrella, what were people expecting? While some could argue there were some quality games released by Arkane and Tango, the sales didn't show that in the slightest and the hype around all the games was either cult classic or negative. Sure game pass probably played a role in that, but the fact still remains, it seems like people like the games, just not enough to actually pay for the game itself. I feel like, while not all, the majority of the people making the noise are the same people who always come out to virtue signal every time we hear about developer crunch or some random ass studio being shut down. They don't really care about it and rightfully so. Layoffs happen every day in the business world. There are people crunching in their own job working over time and working unpaid hours just to survive. No one cries for them, no one from Tango or Arkane tweets about how bad it is their customer had to save up to buy their game, etc. Its not that deep, honestly. A year from now, after Hellblade 2 releases and people don't actually pay for that game outside of Game Pass subscriptions, leading to Ninja Theory being shut down, after a few more games release or an Xbox refresh releases, people will have moved on and found something else to focus their attention on.
@IcyRhythmsthereal
@IcyRhythmsthereal 4 месяца назад
You won't catch me doing anything but defending crunch. I wish we would stop calling it that and call it for what it really is. Overtime exists in almost every industry and at the end of the day, everyone does it at one point of their life. I personally love a little overtime. It's the only way to make any real money most of the time lol
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats 4 месяца назад
​@@IcyRhythmstherealThese are both terrible takes, respectfully. Tango had so much creativity and potential, one of their only Japanese partners too, and as for crunch? No. Just no. It's brutal and destructive. I know this from experience. It's not just 'overtime'
@IcyRhythmsthereal
@IcyRhythmsthereal 4 месяца назад
Ok, well explain it to me then. Before you say anything else, just know there are other people working equally as hard and many more even more so both physically and mentally. It's not like these devs are alone. It's no disrespect but we all have to work and do thing we often don't want to do to make a living. @@DuckAlertBeats
@wwjnz9263
@wwjnz9263 4 месяца назад
Pretty much. They need better management.
@caracal4361
@caracal4361 4 месяца назад
have you ever thought that game pass is more profitable than buying the game itself ? that could be a possibility, closing studios could be just plain bad management or investors pressure . it it's not always the sale numbers .
@KingAlexIII
@KingAlexIII 4 месяца назад
Ive bought both Evil Within games on Xbox and I got Hi-Fi Rush. Microsoft spit in my face by closing Tangerworks
@TheRatedD
@TheRatedD 4 месяца назад
*_Meanwhile, I'm over here playing Splatoon & waiting for Switch 2 news, lol. It's amazing how awful Xbox has been since 2013. That said, Forza Horizon is a great series. If those games come to PS5 as physical copies, I'll definitely get them._*
@TheUballe
@TheUballe 3 месяца назад
Gaming in general has been in steep decline for nearly 10 years. As much as I hate the thought of it, I'll likely play on mid-level PCs going forward... until our only option is to play crap like Fortnite via streaming. I've been gaming since the Atari, but with the way things are going, I think it's time to spend more time on worthwhile hobbies instead.
@ToeTag9899
@ToeTag9899 3 месяца назад
The gaming industry needs a crash it's filth.
@Swordslinger-hb1ns
@Swordslinger-hb1ns 4 месяца назад
Funny enough there were more games released on the Xbox One than its predecessor the mighty Xbox 360. However the PS4 dwarfed both the Xbox One AND the Xbox 360 with its larger library of games. The majority of Xbone games were third party only with only a trickle of first party titles. The exact opposite of the PS4.
@marconihimself
@marconihimself 3 месяца назад
You wont ever hear from an executive that shareholders or corporate capitalism is to blame, but I feel like sarah bond is not a sociopath nor ill intentioned like many execs are and her non answer still left the breadcrumbs to anyone smart enough to put 2 and 2 together. Having said that, even under the constraints of corporate capitalism eternal pursuit of unsustainable growth, we can safely say that the guy who time and time again put xbox on dire situations is matt booty. People just dont realize this because many of them dont even know who matt booty is, since he's not a people's person and all the people you see in interviews are phil and sarah.
@MrSamuelAdam4
@MrSamuelAdam4 4 месяца назад
I told people during the Kinect days & again during the start of game pass days (Which I got crapped on for it) that this is going to hurt XBox more in the long run & look where we are. Sony is next if they can't keep the boat afloat. Nintendo will be fine until us NES to SNES gamers are gone.
@fawkkyutuu8851
@fawkkyutuu8851 4 месяца назад
Xbox started falling off even earlier than Kinect for me , the brands best years were 2001 - 2007 , even though at the time there were less 7th gen games those first 2 years of 360 were still my favorite because that's when 360 felt the most fresh and Impressive with graphical leaps and Innovation (and "Blades" was the best UI). Microsoft was aggressively pushing exclusives , trying to build brand new IP and had consistent notable releases , the Industry as a whole still had the last trace of that 6th gen spirit left.
@preston6676
@preston6676 4 месяца назад
Xbox is out of time....the moment to get rid of Gamepass was about 3 or 4 years ago. As one of yhe people who warned people about Gamepass and just got call d a "pony" is sad to hear people waking up to the realization too late.
@lfreemo
@lfreemo 4 месяца назад
Getting rid of Tango games makes zero sense to me, you don't let a really talented studio go. You could have developed Tango into a world class studio over time, much like what Sony and Nintendo have done.
@kylejohnson1525
@kylejohnson1525 4 месяца назад
This is all why I’m now on PC recently, bought a pre-built gaming PC for starter and plan on upgrading it. I enjoy many games from across all platforms, but PC will always be the master platform since most games you are able to play on pc, whether it’s through steam, or an emulator, or another game site. It’s a great conversion to be on PC now.
@cun7us
@cun7us 4 месяца назад
I think they must be getting a lot of pressure from the higher-ups in Microsoft and their investors. Sarah Bond's interview was cringe but she didn't look comfortable or genuine about what she was saying. It also doesn't add up that she'd praise Tango Gameworks for their success in a tweet a few months ago, then suddenly shut them down.
@OdinAesthetic
@OdinAesthetic 4 месяца назад
They're going to try another console generation? Yes or no ?
@IcyRhythmsthereal
@IcyRhythmsthereal 4 месяца назад
Yeah. Probably. Part of me really doesn't want them to though. It's embarrassing for them
@stephenthompson2505
@stephenthompson2505 4 месяца назад
​@@IcyRhythmstherealwhy is it embarrassing? Studios got closed it happens in all industries they are a business... People are making a mountain out of a mole hill.. I didn't hear all this chatter when PlayStation has basically binned there VR headset...
@bellissimo4520
@bellissimo4520 4 месяца назад
I don't think so. Not in the sense of the old "Xbox vs Playstation" competition. They will release new hardware, but at this point I'd bet it will basically run Windows 11 - they already said they want to bring other game store like Steam to their consoles... and Steam runs on either Linux or Windows. I really think they will basically just sell living-room PCs (and handhelds) with a maybe somewhat specialized Windows 11 on it - and it will basically be "Windows Gaming", and not Xbox anymore (or in name only).
@conradojavier7547
@conradojavier7547 4 месяца назад
Yet they keep 343 Running.
@MADagain
@MADagain 2 месяца назад
The last title was a hit or miss though Ghostwire... didn't draw me in like The Evil Within did, so I get it but for them to can them that's a bit much. Studios starting from scratch is a really difficult undertaking. Look at Ken Levine... wtf happened to that guy and his game lol
@nafisishtiaque
@nafisishtiaque 3 месяца назад
I compare tango to guerilla games they were mid but with enough nurture and patience they are really good now. Tango were in the verge becoming a top tier studio sad to see them go.
@Nocturnal-goose
@Nocturnal-goose 4 месяца назад
Xbox being washed up is an understatement, they’ve been 3rd since the beginning. Just never really had the same appeal world wide as other platforms.
@ewwwt
@ewwwt 4 месяца назад
360 was the last good console, they started out with bad @$$ exclusives which later went multiplat but, the only good thing that came out with xbox one and beyond was the killer instinct reboot. but that was before Spencer time. EDIT: I honestly believe the head of Bethesda or ID Software should replace Phil and all the other WokeT@rds.
@hayabusa09
@hayabusa09 4 месяца назад
Number of Xbox games Ive purchased? 3 Bought Halo 3 I think with a 360 Elite? its been a while, it RROD'd after the Gamestop guy said yea the elites dont RROD. Returned it got another...it RROD'd too. Returned it for good. Later bought a Xbox and tried to play Halo Reach. Midway through the campaign I came home from work console wouldnt play discs. Returned the console to Walmart. Got an email from Xbox like a week later saying there was a unintended error that caused some consoles to stop reading discs. Asked me to send the console back and have it repaired. Sent them a pic of the return receipt. Not bothered with this company since. Good riddance.
@jimmymac2292
@jimmymac2292 4 месяца назад
Hifi Rush did very well in what metric. 7% of the 2 million gamers actually beat the game and it's biggest award was best audio design. Furthermore Zenimax operates as it's own company and it's likely they green lit these projects to simply pad their studios to look good for potential buyers. Microsoft still has over 40 studios under 3 publishers. I really think it's overblown
@IcyRhythmsthereal
@IcyRhythmsthereal 4 месяца назад
Not for nothing man, most people don’t beat the majority of games they own. Percentages vary from game to game and those particular numbers have very little weight in the quality of a title
@jimmymac2292
@jimmymac2292 4 месяца назад
@@IcyRhythmsthereal they likely don't as far as a decision goes in term of closing studios. But it obvious, gamers don't actually beat games now. Why stand on a hill and cry for a product you didn't devote much time play. It's just kind of weird
@seebooze
@seebooze 4 месяца назад
I can access my Xbox Game Pass games from my phone, my PC, Quest 2. I can also play my MS-acc Minecraft realm on my PS5. No other platform has anywhere close to this much accessibility
@The_Claymores
@The_Claymores 4 месяца назад
there is no reason to shut down Tango other than Xbox wants to leave console gaming. Every studio that ships a console game will be shut down, Ninja Theory is next. MS will focus on mobile games going forward. That is also why the PR spin has been "big beautiful AAA games aren't sustainable". That is not true. What is true is Xbox is no longer planning on making those titles.
@homebrewGT2
@homebrewGT2 4 месяца назад
6:40 so you would harass the guest? Because there's a reason these people don't ask the same questions over and over. They get it. They get the guest is not supposed to answer that
@IcyRhythmsthereal
@IcyRhythmsthereal 4 месяца назад
Then why ask at all? If you know the response will dance around your question, why bother?
@garthhancock3373
@garthhancock3373 4 месяца назад
All I've seen is a lot of business ignorant knee jerk reactions from most of these "Xboxtubers". When you look at the numbers what with the overhead being higher than the profit margin necessary to sustain the viability of the studios, then duh. The rationale for shutting down non profitable development studios makes absolutely perfect sense. Honestly, I'm keen on seeing each individual studio's quarterly financial reports, then we can have some real objectivity on this matter. Running a business isn't a charity, but most of these guys can't grasp that. If you're not hitting the bottom line, you have to go. Another thing that comes to mind is how many of the hires on these establishments were DEI hires.
@playably
@playably 4 месяца назад
Former Playstation fanboy and now primary pc player, anytime a 3rd party studio is bought by Microsoft or Sony that studio becomes a former shell of itself. Part of the reason gaming down as a whole. Sony is a bit better because they have a better infrastructure and culture. Activision eventually is going to fizzle away.
@bellissimo4520
@bellissimo4520 4 месяца назад
Sony is a lot better in that particular regard (fostering a good relation and culture with their development studios). Not fanboying here, but their track record of AAA games output of consistently high quality speaks for itself. Sure they also may have a misfire here or there, and they have closed studios too, but compared to Microsoft/Xbox, it's night and day.
@The_Claymores
@The_Claymores 4 месяца назад
Xbox and Playstation had drastically different acquisition approaches. Xbox chose to buy big publishers and try to figure out what to do with the studios afterwards. Meanwhile, Playstation partnered with dev teams to make an exclusive game, and if the game did well then they acquire the studio (Housemarque with Returnal, Insomniac with Spidey, Bluepoint with Demon's Souls, etc), but there are some questionable buys that didn't follow that approach like Bungie. So I'd say PS is significantly better because of their targeted approach that allows them to understand a studio before investing in them. Overall, I hope acquisitions stop for everyone. They need to chill and focus on what they already have.
@ianvanwyk3707
@ianvanwyk3707 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately XBOX is under new management since the Activision acquisition and that is MICROSOFT GAMING. There is too much money invested into XBOX now and the suits want R.O.I., so I fear that things are only going to get worse from here on out from a gamer point of view. Focus is now going to be on cutting cost and on profitability, so all decisions going forward will be towards that end. XBOX as we knew and loved it is dead, sad to say....
@blackflame4506
@blackflame4506 4 месяца назад
Xbox lost touch with themselves even since the Xbox one fiasco and after that its one problem after another since then and honestly people got tired of the B.S.
@IcyRhythmsthereal
@IcyRhythmsthereal 4 месяца назад
Yeah. A buddy and I always talk about that. They've never fully recovered from that. Just can't seem to get themselves out of that hole.
@nickneal8676
@nickneal8676 4 месяца назад
What up icy always live the content bro
@IcyRhythmsthereal
@IcyRhythmsthereal 4 месяца назад
Appreciate you man! Long time supporter
@Executi0ner246
@Executi0ner246 4 месяца назад
Same here, love the content. He does great work
@Liffey_Brown
@Liffey_Brown 4 месяца назад
They are starting to get washed up
@PerfectFitGE8
@PerfectFitGE8 4 месяца назад
They've been washed up since making paying for online on console a thing.
@MrEffectfilms
@MrEffectfilms 4 месяца назад
They've been washed up for like 10 years now.
@Gametester110-qf8vs
@Gametester110-qf8vs 4 месяца назад
Microsoft's downfall was the XBOX ONE, aka: The XBONE (lol, X-bone). Using Sega as an example, the XBOX360 was their "Sega Genesis". A hugely successful console that defied the odds. While the XBONE was their "Sega Saturn": A Good system in it's own right but, a commercial failure in the end that caused irreparable Damage to the brand.
@batman-cu1ep
@batman-cu1ep 4 месяца назад
They have been washed up the second after the 360
@Haddley333
@Haddley333 4 месяца назад
Only thing that makes sense to me is that MS is leaving the gaming scene, which sounds dumb with the recent acquisitions. Gamepass has been weak as well so eventually that’s fizzling to nothing
@IcyRhythmsthereal
@IcyRhythmsthereal 4 месяца назад
They may be on their way out and just become a major third party publisher of games only.
@jeddediajohnson9179
@jeddediajohnson9179 4 месяца назад
Playstation is worse.
@ckg-CaribbeanKnight
@ckg-CaribbeanKnight 4 месяца назад
Xbox is so out of the game its insane.
@J64866
@J64866 4 месяца назад
Very sad. Such a talented studio
@tazmanceltic
@tazmanceltic 4 месяца назад
Let's go deep lol 45min ripppp
@IcyRhythmsthereal
@IcyRhythmsthereal 4 месяца назад
Lol we can always talk more about it in an upcoming stream
@tazmanceltic
@tazmanceltic 4 месяца назад
@@IcyRhythmsthereal f yes it's been too long icy , I want to be part of that lol
@ChaosUnfold
@ChaosUnfold 4 месяца назад
Microsoft thought that they could transistion from a hardware-centric closed platform to a cloud-centric open one and we wouldn't notice. If they had kept all of that exclusive to the Xbox, people would have all the incentive to make it their go-to platform like the Xbox 360.
@TheInfiniteRetroRealm
@TheInfiniteRetroRealm 4 месяца назад
Vote with your wallet, both in rejection of bad practices AND support of great titles.
@GloriousKev
@GloriousKev 4 месяца назад
Cook!
@un-for-given
@un-for-given 4 месяца назад
Of course you come back making videos when it’s to shit on xbox. 😊
@MihaiKrieger
@MihaiKrieger 4 месяца назад
Xbox are shitting on themselves.
@PerfectFitGE8
@PerfectFitGE8 4 месяца назад
They just canned a dev that makes the game he really enjoys.
@BillB808
@BillB808 4 месяца назад
The Xbox fans are perhaps finally realizing their nominated "saviour" is heading them down the route of having no physical games (forever) and looking to tap their wallets monthly. The Xbox fans are very slow to catch on, very very slow, but are finally cottoning on that Phil is actually terrible.
@sandman9670
@sandman9670 4 месяца назад
xbox sucks
@xenoeidos9931
@xenoeidos9931 4 месяца назад
pony
@GeneralJLC
@GeneralJLC 4 месяца назад
Damn I haven't seen you since the trey brotherhood
@IcyRhythmsthereal
@IcyRhythmsthereal 4 месяца назад
Looking back, that shit was washed up too lol
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