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Xiaomi M365 - Load Balancing of the modules or cells of the battery 

Mathew Confi
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Here's a video showing you how to balance the modules or cells of the battery of your electric scooter.
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@dr.p.niss.attorneyatballs9435
@dr.p.niss.attorneyatballs9435 3 года назад
Thank you for the video!
@Hggk8667
@Hggk8667 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing ur knowledge with us
@phoneroni
@phoneroni Год назад
Great video thanks for sharing
@FiftyPenceR8
@FiftyPenceR8 5 лет назад
Very helpful thank you, if only there was a way to balance the battery without cutting the plastic because I hate to damage my factory fresh scooter battery 🤣
@stelic9515
@stelic9515 2 года назад
Thank you alot. I had the same problem, I think if place an active cell balancer will be great.
@Buzzhumma
@Buzzhumma 5 лет назад
Very good info
@DylanFowler
@DylanFowler 5 лет назад
Hi Mathew, it looks like I am going to have to do this with my scooter as the cell packs are only around the 35 v range. Is the fault down to the BMS system or maybe something else? Btw thanks for the tutorial and the links.
@NonymousPoulssRetroGaming59600
@NonymousPoulssRetroGaming59600 3 года назад
thank you
@FutureWiredTec
@FutureWiredTec 4 года назад
Thanks for the video! Helped me a lot! What counts unbalanced? I got a 10mv difference between two halfs pack of the pack
@vanquishmc
@vanquishmc 3 года назад
Mine have a difference of 1.8v between cells. Battery not charging. Thinking of changing the bms. Would that stop the charging process???
@DawidHeftman
@DawidHeftman 5 лет назад
Great !!! (Y)
@VoiceOverEngineer
@VoiceOverEngineer 5 лет назад
Are you Quebecois? Montrealais ici. ould you recommend a video on replacing the m365 side lines. I hit a nail and one got mangled.
@algossoft
@algossoft 5 лет назад
Hi, in each normal charge cycle with the standard charger, all the units are rebalanced by the BMS. In fact they end up at about the same voltage of 4.2V. Why did you do this?
@TheBaregel
@TheBaregel 5 лет назад
i dont think that BMS has active ballance
@Nathanael.Thomas
@Nathanael.Thomas Год назад
Yes, the Xiaomi m365 does not have balancing. I'd love to see someone add it though. These scooters are so fun to tinker with!
@ChopStickZero
@ChopStickZero Год назад
If you guys dont wantt to cut the plastic or open the battery, which I also didnt there is another way to balance that worked for me so far every time but it seems nobody figured it out yet. If it works for you please write it elsewhere if someone asks, to help others. Mine didnt even turn on without being plugged in that how bad it got. 3.6 and next pack was 4.1v , huge differences. Connect to power, use m365 dashboard app from google play or any apk app website (just write in google m365 dashboard app apk) to connect to scooter. Turn on back light under options until you finish. And keep it in sport mode. Next turn on kers to full power regeneration and unplug the adapter (but keep the scooter on, I did all this inside my apartment btw). Now this might be a bit of aproblem for some, my throttle kicks in at 2kph cause I lowered it, if you guys have it at default i think the front wheel must turn at 5kph spinning for throttle to work. Figure it out. Raise the front of the scooter and full power for half or one second and brake full. Do it again. Mind you kers must be on full/strong not weak. And dont forget to put it back to weak after. All the while keep checking the m365 app and battery packs for changes. When they balanced put it to charge immediately so they go up on same level. So two repeats of full throttle, full break with kers full. With wheel in the air and full brake with kers on strong. After a month I by mistake did sth so theyy went out of balance again so I did the process again, it worked the same, this time only one time needed. I hope youre successful and you repair it, do tell if you do. cheers, good luck
@joel3187
@joel3187 Год назад
What is your min/max cell difference after this trick?
@ChopStickZero
@ChopStickZero Год назад
@@joel3187 0.022 .But you have to take into account this is 4 yo battery and has had a rough life . Also before it would only charge to 60% approx. And go up and down, wouldnt hold charge etc... The line below mix/max about cell variation is 0.007. What are your differences?
@joel3187
@joel3187 Год назад
@@ChopStickZero I have 0.019, 1500km driven. I think its ok. I get ~30km range with modded firmware, and using only sport mode. Im just interested about batteries, thats why im looking here😄
@ChopStickZero
@ChopStickZero Год назад
@@joel3187 thats perfect brother, you have nothing to worry or try to change with that deviations. And 30km range is better than I every got probabily, esp after unlimiting the top speed and raising torque. Though i have noticed that with cruise control on I use lots of less battery, it manages to regulate it more efficiently. Mine has 2600+ km now. I was about to throw it away but I guess I can use it a bit more now. Though the next one, DEFINITELY with suspension/shocks, possibly front and back :) These things are way to uncomfortable to drive, especially modded, with no shocks to dampen the ride. I got to drive one fancy one, raised up, went up to 45kph, its like floating, so much fun.
@joel3187
@joel3187 Год назад
@@ChopStickZero That make sense btw! I basicly only use cruise control when im driving. I only dont use it when its busy area and people everywhere. And im currently modding my xiaomi, just installed suspension, and 25Ah external battery is coming next week. After that i get probably 70-80km range with max speed😁💪🏻 Wider deck, and 10" tires, and it goes 40km/h max😄 Im probably buying premium scooter next year, or EUC, i havent decided yet😁 Those EUC:s have insane range and speed, and police isnt that interested about them, because they are scared to test drive them haha
@MakerFabio
@MakerFabio 2 года назад
Hi many thanks Just got a xiaomi from a lake I got error 21 and would like to see each cell voltage from the app like you did Which app are you using?
@MathewConfi
@MathewConfi 2 года назад
Hello, The app is m365 Tools : play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.peretti.m365tools
@alannsapone6396
@alannsapone6396 4 года назад
Hello there, quick question. How dangerous can it be to charge a module after 1 year of discharging (bms blinks red 4 times) ? After some testing, they go from 2.2V to 3.1V. Thanks for your help :).
@ReLoadedProject
@ReLoadedProject Год назад
long time after you posted but it shouldnt be dangerous but your battery wont have any life
@robertocabras9604
@robertocabras9604 5 лет назад
What tool did you use to remove the plastic cover mate? I know they are torx screws but what measure?
@MathewConfi
@MathewConfi 5 лет назад
Torx T10
@robertocabras9604
@robertocabras9604 5 лет назад
@@MathewConfi Alright thanks a lot
@stefanobism
@stefanobism 5 лет назад
But doesn't the BMS think about regulating the voltage on the individual cells?
@efdawahfan
@efdawahfan Год назад
its not balancer onboard just simple protection
@sandronovecento76
@sandronovecento76 3 года назад
Hello. Actually I have a min.max difference of 0.026v. Should I balance the cells? Regards.
@efdawahfan
@efdawahfan Год назад
of course not its perfect
@lynx_nz
@lynx_nz 5 лет назад
is it safe to assume that the cells in each module are also balanced?
@hugodeandres1497
@hugodeandres1497 3 года назад
Yes, parallel batteries are always balanced perfectly. The issue only occurs with series connections
@ThePiispa5
@ThePiispa5 4 года назад
Do i not need to change bms? Is it broken if this happens? Bms should balance modules if this happened, then its broken like your bms
@VRMinde
@VRMinde 4 года назад
B1shops m365 bms does not do a good job balancing cells. Measure real voltage on the cells directly and compare to what the BMS show in the app. If BMS shows a wrong voltage you might need to replace it. If it is just a small disbalance I would not replace the BMS
@suspensioncheck
@suspensioncheck 5 лет назад
Describe (Much more). How much this fix increased the range? Thanks
@italicus84
@italicus84 4 года назад
Simply because when you do load balancing on a Li-Ion battery unit, you make sure each cell is charged at its max. The voltage measurement tells you whether each cell has reached its maximum capacity, which is not the case if there is an unbalance between cells.
@user-pb6oy6cq1q
@user-pb6oy6cq1q 3 года назад
@@italicus84 this is not an option, soon you will have to balance again
@Kostas_B
@Kostas_B 3 года назад
I had the same Problem, and before i open the battery and charge one part only, i tried to discharge the battery completely until the scooter was dead. Then i did a reset to BMS and charged it fully to 100%. After the charge the difference was 0.010 wich i think is if not perfect at least acceptable.
@ivansmidovich7787
@ivansmidovich7787 3 года назад
How did you reset bms by firmware upgrade/reset? Or by opening battery slot and press actual reset button on bms?
@lucacavallini561
@lucacavallini561 2 года назад
Thanks for good idea 👍 im aproccing to buy a not Need charger
@YuriyII
@YuriyII 3 года назад
BMS manage voltage of all cells regularry
@lucacavallini561
@lucacavallini561 2 года назад
Hi, thanks , i have same problem with m365, cell 5 is too low, I wonder? once the single cell is recharged, isn't it that after some time it goes down again?
@efdawahfan
@efdawahfan Год назад
yes about 6 months or even year...or just works fine.
@lucacavallini561
@lucacavallini561 Год назад
@@efdawahfan thanks👍
@ericsonlacap6356
@ericsonlacap6356 2 года назад
Hi. What is the standard volts of single battery.?
@efdawahfan
@efdawahfan Год назад
full is 4.2 empty is 3.7
@ThePr0Br0
@ThePr0Br0 4 года назад
Brand new just received it, after first full charge the battery is all iver the place, with the max difference being 0.03V, is this normal?
@michalwlosik3544
@michalwlosik3544 5 лет назад
Sorry, can you explain the polarity again? How do I know which side is positive?
@JasonAskew
@JasonAskew 3 года назад
With a multimeter. If your probe shows a negative mark, it means you have them reversed. The red probe is positive, black negative. When there is no negative mark, it means you have the polarity correct with your probes (again, red positive - black negative).
@meco3215
@meco3215 2 года назад
im reading 3.6v is that not normal
@labowich1218
@labowich1218 5 лет назад
Similar thing happened on mine.. bms doesn't re-balance first 3 cell groups and "at full charge" ends up with c1,c2,c3: ~3.5v while others get charged to ~4.27..... Tested connections it's all good.
@marukqs
@marukqs 4 года назад
Hi, Labowich, how did you fixed the problem? Should I replace cells or is it enough to charge the cell pack to the similar voltage as other packs?
@user-pb6oy6cq1q
@user-pb6oy6cq1q 3 года назад
@@marukqs usually a bad contact, then it is necessary to solder it, or a bad 18650 replacement then. This video will not solve the problem!
@joshuadato8490
@joshuadato8490 5 лет назад
What apps is this?
@MathewConfi
@MathewConfi 5 лет назад
It's called m365 Tools : play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.peretti.m365tools
@fourbypete
@fourbypete 4 года назад
If you discharge the battery fully or at least down to 5% then charge to higher than 90% your battery should balance automatically. Also, they are called cells if you are talking about individual batteries, modules if you are talking about groups of cells to increase amps and battery pack if you are talking about the total pack. You sounded like you were saying battery model.
@UrAvgRasian
@UrAvgRasian 5 лет назад
The easiest was is after every 20 cycles you’re suppose to drain it beyond 10% to cycle the batteries.
@marquitoescort2011
@marquitoescort2011 5 лет назад
So you only recharged that cell, didnt use any decharge device then.
@MathewConfi
@MathewConfi 5 лет назад
Yes that is right, I only used the recharge device. I show, at the beginning of the video, the discharge device as well; in case anybody needs it.
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