XK - K130 - Unbox, Setup, Maiden Flight, CRASH, & Repair 

AWESOME Eric! Glad you found some useful things in there. I don't fancy myself a Heli aficionado, and most of the guys flying heli's have LONG since forgotten how hard it can be to fly them. I have special needs, as a non-heli-expert, so I want to share what I do to get the small handicap I need. We have SAFE on the BNF planes we review, but I almost never use it anymore...but with helis, I need every bit of help I can get.

Glad you enjoyed it Michael - Thanks!

I'm so glad you feel my plight - it is REAL! ;) LOL As for the detailed overview on Expo and Mixing...I feel like I'm already really "riding the line" with my explanations, OR possibly jumping the fence and running half way down the street... It's tough since I don't really "know" what audience will be watching. Will it be the "new" rc pilot or the experienced rc pilot, thus the challenge is keeping an audience while I explain things they might already know or not have a clue - this is tough. As for helping YOU with your questions, can you ask a specific one, and I can try to address it here? I know it's always helpful to have a better general understanding of these things in order to apply these to your overall RC experience, which is why I push so hard to share loads of details in my videos, but I know you must have a specific question or three. I want to help. P.S. When you ask, ask a "new" comment...RU-vid kinda buries reply chains anymore (which is SOOOOO annoying!) making it hard to tell when I get a reply to a reply, unless I stumble onto it.

Great! Thanks Scott!

Fantastic! Thanks! I hope you didn't have to crash yours ;)

Thanks; You too G Bro!

I have a buddy who flips them around like rag dolls, - beautiful, but it scares the crap out of me!!!

Brian Phillips by the way no body is born with mad heli flying skills, they are all learned and you can too.

I agree helicopters are more mind blowing alot of concentration very rewarding 👍

So glad to hear you say this. We get trouble from some for making exceedingly long videos, but we KNOW that so many just need some help getting their feet wet! It's like some of these manufacturers just assume everyone knows everything about these surprisingly complex systems with almost no "ENGLISH" explanation - LOL ;) I'm very blessed to have such a supportive and helpful wife (Megan AKA the camera crew - an inside joke about how we obviously only have one person), and she is increasingly pivotal in the success of our channel! P.S. What is T & B IOWA stand for? We're in central Iowa, as you may have heard.

Thanks Eric! We try, but with details comes long videos...which is a double edged sward. Some hate it, but I try to make time stamps on the REALLY long ones ;)

I trust you're a better Heli pilot than I :)

I ordered one and waited a month for parts and broke something else in 10 minutes. I did the crush dance on that bitch!

Yeah. this is a cool aircraft, and I know I don't do all the crazy tricks, but think how much better this heli is than the Blade CP One that I had 10-ish years ago...not even in the same class!!!

Yes brian that was a very difficult heli to get off the ground still have my blade cp and dont forget the honeybee king 2 which i also fly now and then but really great video of the review of xk130 👍

Yeah, I used to have to CA everything together on my old Blade CP One, but thank God, XK has used screws and clamps for stuff on this little beauty!

Brian Phillips well once you can master flying around level right side up with 6G hand holding turned off you’ll be ready to start practicing hovering inverted and doing inverted orientations in a hover with one side pointed at you such as hovering the heli with the left side facing you for a full battery and then the right side and then the tail and then the nose on. After you master doing orientations right side up so it’s second hand you can move on to circuit flying like doing figure eights. Then you start doing inverted hovering orientations the same way and then once mastered moving on to inverted figure eights. This can take months and a good simulator is vital.

I don't like when you see a review, and they leave out all the difficult, or annoying parts - unfortunately, that means I DO share all that stuff ;)

Thank you Terry! (Deleted a duplicate comment - not sure why this happens from time to time - I think it's a google issue)

Glad it was helpful! I'm still learning so much in the heli arena, so glad we could be of some assistance!

Thanks ;)

LOL - I know , I should have just taken that thing out!!! This heli is just so strong, I was genuinely nervous about hitting stuff, something I'm not typically concerned about when I fly inside the house.

I think the Tx is interchangeable, but you'll have to press the bind button on the Rx PCB....possibly each time you go back and forth. This is speaking to the ones that I have, sometimes XK or WLToys or whatever brand is offering the item, will sometimes change up their package offerings from time to time.

That's annoying! Have you figured out how to swap leads from the servos to make it work right?

Brian Phillips yea did it today it’s surprisingly a good flying Heli

It's better than I deserve ;)

My limits become somewhat evident sometimes - LOL ;)

Totally agree! I just wish I could have done a better flight for you all...BUT, what a heli!

I Got 2-Horizon 120S BNF Helis For About $20 Each... Now I Got Some Extra Parts Also! I Haven't Messed With Nor Flown Them Yet... LOL

John, get them out and fly them!!!

Mucilage is great for foam to foam, but if you're doing unlike materials, I'd seriously consider epoxy, if you can tolerate the weight, and time...if not, I'd go for BSI CA that's either foam safe or not, depending on my needs and what happens to be dried up at the timer ;)

LOL - Very nice Mike!

LOL

I've done it like 20 times, if this makes you feel better :)

To calibrate the gyro.

@@BrianPhillipsRC OK Thank´s . can I do this for the K123 and K124 ??

Yeah, me too...I can do it, but not super confident, and flying airplanes is just enough different that I make so many more mistakes.

Thanks Tim! We worked really hard to put this place together, and will be working very hard for at least another 20-30 years :)

There's been a few out over the years, but I haven't been a huge believer in GPS for flight controls of RC, but I know it's a thing, I'm just not a fan of it....notwithstanding a strictly filming drone, but I suppose it would be very cool on a heli too, if it were actually going to work, and not try to lop my head off ;)

@@BrianPhillipsRC With the GPS heli, can also put it in free fly mode like any other heli with just a gyro.

Thanks Drew. I hope you'll check in often. We do a LOT of reviews. They're long, but you'll be making a very informed decision...even if you come to a different conclusion than I.

Margot, were you answering a question?

No, I wouldn't recommend it... there's easier and less powerful. BUT if you want too, you could.

Awesome! I blew out the servos ;( BUT, lucky for me, I have hundreds and hundreds of "donors" willing to give up their lives to save whatever I'm flying today ;) LOL

I was thinking I might be fighting the ground effect a bit, but then after (repeatedly) re calibrating the gyros, I realized she'll calm down quite a bit.

Brian Phillips my little Blade 230S has to be flown off the ground as the gyro for no good reason has a notorious tilt to the left on spin up so you have to control it on the ground. I’m so used to it I don’t notice it anymore but yeah. I’m glad you were able to get rid of it on your bird.

I just did a review ;) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yAMvgUOaYYU.html

I think it is, and I think you can, but you have to press the button on the front of the Rx. Pull the front off the heli, and look for the button, then you can bind it really easily.

@@BrianPhillipsRC OK! Thank you!

Sounds like you didn't get the gears fixed????

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Do the parallel board work for EC5 connecter

And changed servos around but still the same only on the left which doesnt make any sense and had calibrated it but still no luck getting frustrated with it had bought the gear kits and put them in properly with alignment but still no go please help🙈

So you move the right stick (mode 2) and the blades tip as expected? You can test this without any throttle. Did you possibly reverse the channel, by accident?

Really! That's crazy! Can you change the pitch setting and get some more altitude?

@@BrianPhillipsRC aa

I knew you'd be excited!

I think if you turn off 6G mode, then they're centered while laying flat, with Gyro Calibrated...or am I missing something Keith?

Brian Phillips no because the gyro is still acting like a gyro. There is a servo centering mode, there has to be to set up the flybarless unit.

Brian Phillips there may not be a way. I did a check in helifreak and found a little info about the X6 that can help with the K130 when it comes to some of the calibrations and curves. www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=788189

I considered this, but I get so freaked out by the speed of the main rotor (out of idle up mode)....BUT you're right that the factory setting might be better left default

Brian Phillips ha! Try 425mm rotor blades spinning at 100% throttle in idle up mode. It’s a lot of fun. Expo is your friend, gives your inputs a little mushy feel so your heli flies smoother. 50% expo with helis is not unheard of in RC heli hobby.

Idle up mode makes me nervous, but I know it's better for the flight performance.

Brian Phillips you don’t have to fly in idle up, you can enjoy flying in 6G mode. Idle up just gives you the ability to fly inverted, at least that’s what it means these days in the days of Flybarless controllers. You can reduce your throttle speed but set your pitch curve so in normal mode you have more pitch closer to the bottom of the stick in Normal mode and closer to center stick in 3D Mode (idle up). A good way to learn is through experimentation. First take pictures of your throttle and pitch curves and then mess around. The K130 will lose a lot of its twitchiness by lowering the throttle aka head speed, increasing pitch and increasing exponential rates so your stick inputs will be softer. If you don’t have more pitch early on you’ll run out of stick quick before you can get airborne.

Brian Phillips so a good start might be to set your N1 Throttle curve to 1=0% 2=20% 3=60% 4=60% 5=60% and the. For N1 pitch curve let’s go with 1=50% 2=65% 3=75% 4=90% 5=100% THE percentages equal the percent of positive pitch from full negative pitch so in normal mode you start at 50% meaning you are at zero degrees pitch and 60% is 10% mor positive pitch and 100% is full positive pitch. Just play with the numbers and see how low you can get the head speed down by using lower throttle curve percentages.. the lower the head speed the easier it will be to fly.

Just upload a video and post the link...you have a RU-vid account ;) Make it short and it will be a quick project,.

Have you tried to re calibrate the gyro? I'd start there. I did it about 10 times before I had the guts to take off in the kitchen. Then I proceeded to crash almost immediately - LOL :)

I was scared of it...but it's a nice heli! As for shortening the boom - that's crazy that it was BETTER - I assumed the motor would have to work a lot harder...but might look cool too!

Possible. If it is, I'm not 100% sure. It's possible someone made a comment about it. I'm sorry I can't answer for you Mark.

@@BrianPhillipsRC I believe it is. So +30 is really sensitive at centre stick and -30 is really mushy.

Don't think you can, since this heli is Futaba FHSS compatible, BUT there seems to be a Satellite input, you might be able to use one of your choice....but totally a guess on my part. Sorry, I'm not super familiar with Fr Sky.

@@BrianPhillipsRC there is also a module for futaba fhss sytem . just like general link module for nine eagles ;)

I've been flying helis for a while...actually, I technically had a heli before my planes ;)

Do you have it?

I will do some soon, but we're kinda loaded for bear on planes right at the moment. I want to do a BIG heli soon...1m or more???

Possibly. Does the tail motor spin when you d/c the main brushless motor and throttle up? You can test this a number of ways, but be super careful. I don't want you to cut yourself up!!!

Does it have any gyros?

@@BrianPhillipsRC Nope they were not popular then. Gyros are relatively new in the models.

Gyros Went In Them On S-Models...

yep...got some sitting on my counter now ;) ready to use in my Boeing 737 Max 9 for flaps ;)

Banggood sell the upgraded metal-gear servos - not much more expensive than the plastic ones. Compulsory upgrade i think - have just ordered 3 after a fairly minor crash.. Nice heli tho :)

🍻🍻🍻 - I'd shake your hand, but the CDC says I can only elbow bump ;) LOL

Not sure...but I'm pretty sure you can use the Jumper for this heli.

@@BrianPhillipsRC do you know any cool full scale helis I cant find any

FULL SCALE?!?!?! You mean, bigger?

@@BrianPhillipsRC yes

very cool

Thank you Reginal Pradia... This is what you were talking about, right... Replacement Metal Gear Servos - usa.banggood.com/custlink/mKGDzHbISu - They look nice!

@@BrianPhillipsRC yes both the gear and the servos after a crash and the landing isn't very good don't hold them while running up the main motor i got hit by the blades wasn't good on the knuckles , the landing gear came off .

I fully concur, metal gear upgrade sets are the best upgrades for plastic gear servos. Important to use a good greese on the metal gears or you will suffer a seized servo and thats no good at all. I'd rather replace plastic rotor pitch arms than tear into a servo even though metal gears die as well.

Grumpy - you just pulled them right out!!! Very nice. You get an A+!!!!!

I'm Very Detecting & Sensitive Of Your "Inside" Jokes... LOL Thanks

Thanks Nick!

Soo You Didn't Know That He Was Eddie Munster As A Child Star Back In Black & White TV Days!? LMAO

Don't let my secret out!!!

@@BrianPhillipsRC Ohhh I'm Sorry! Do You Want Me To Send You Naked Stripper Photos Of Your Stage Munster Mommy? LMAO

I fixed it :) but this one is just a BIT past my skill set ;)

@@BrianPhillipsRC it's a great first helicopter with its 6G Normal mode. Just fly it and let it teach you.

On a RTF there isn't that much to setup, but if you wish, we have explained MORE about some of these heli's on the BNF styles. Have you watched one of them? Might help answer some of your questions.

Thanks Sean ;) Glad you stopped in!

LOL - IF you just ram the shaft in, to penetrate JUST right, you will have installed the canopy correctly. (Missed opportunity!!!)

@@BrianPhillipsRC if you should continue to encounter resistance, liberally lubricate the shaft and ram it in

LOL - always a good rule of thumb..........

cool, thanks

I agree ;) This is a very capable heli!!!

I'm sorry, but not sure how to do it. I do believe you CAN do it, but I never tried.

Thanks, but it wasn't 20 minutes to fix

I'm not sure what you're saying. $1,800/hr would be pretty good pay ;) and I DID crash this heli? Can you clarify? What's you point?

I don't fly Heli's 3D...but I DO crash them 3D ;) LOL!!!

hi

Nice! Too bad you weren't the 1,234,567,890'th view ;) Thanks for stopping in Brad!

That's why I try to time stamp events for people. Not sure if I did it on this video though.

Your videos are superb for people who need a bit of technical support ..the detail is what you need !!

They're all cool!

@@BrianPhillipsRC The helicopters are cool to watch, but two high of a learning curve I watched a rich guy destroy a $5000 one in minutes.