XQC Gets Decimated By H3H3 In Reaction Content Debate 

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When he said “maybe you didn’t have a dad so that’s why you watch papa gut” I felt so attacked.

“Ethan’s choosing easy debates” XQC literally asked Ethan to debate him

I'm not a fan of Ethan, but God damn I don't know why Xqc agreed to do this.

I did not understand a single point or even sentence that XQC said.

Ethan’s been catching nothing but Ws lately. Mans tapping into his pre-podcast era energy.

I thinknthe 'react harder' discourse is a separate one to "react at all" which is xqcs issue

I have never understood how XQC has gotten any following. At best all of value he provides is being a live laughtrack. When I have been looking for reaction I have always skipped his videos.

Every time I listen to xqc talk I feel like I’m losing brain cells

Xqc not sleeping every other day gives him plenty of time to steal more content

Ironically, if I had known or seen that Papa was gonna react to this, I probably wouldn't have watched H3's video yesterday but because I appreciate Papa's perspective so I'm down to rewatch

You can't be copystriked for playing a video game that you paid for on stream. Not only did you pay for the video game you can't get the full experience of the video game from watching someone else play it. Like if somebody watched you play Minecraft it doesn't ruin the whole game for them. But if you re upload the entirety of someone else's video there's no reason for someone to go watch the original video. This in itself is cannibalistic by Nature. I personally don't think it's about reacting harder. React to whatever you want on stream don't re-upload the entire video on RU-vid with the same exact thumbnail and title in order to leech off the algorithm. I can't tell if you guys just don't understand this or you're purposely muddying the waters. Definitely feel like this is most people's position who don't like react content. I think this is a pretty understandable position. I do think reacting to videos on stream is bad like you said both acts are bad but I think uploading the entire RU-vid video with barely anything added to it with the same thumbnail and title it's very parasitic. As far as I know twitch doesn't have a algorithm like RU-vid That's recommending old twitch streams for people to watch. And also the twitch stream isn't the same exact title and thumbnail as every single video they reacted to within it. I could go on but no one cares. I don't know why streamers think Impressions don't matter. Edit. After talking with some people I've realized you definitely can be copyright striked for playing a game on stream, especially if the game has music in the background. Whoever made that music owns the copyright. Most video game developers just don't follow through with copyrights because they consider it a positive for advertisement. Which is understandable cuz you can't get the full experience from watching somebody else play a game.

At about 29:29 in. Papa Gut you're wrong about market substitutes. Many reactors believe that something being a market substitute means all the viewers who watched a reaction would have 100% watched the original. So if a reaction is watched by even some people who would not have watched the original, the reaction can never be a market substitute. This is false. As an example. If I upload a reaction to Ruby Gillman: Teenage Kraken that contained 100% of the movie then uploaded that completely unedited video to youtube. I would still be creating a market substitute as there would be no reason to go to the theater or buy the dvd if I saw a reaction that contained the entire movie within it. Me getting sued and telling the judge "but you can't prove that 100% of the people who saw my reaction would've purchased tickets to see the movie" would not hold up in court. Market substitutions are not so much about the people watching the substitute and what they would've watched otherwise. They are more about "can watching this media substitute someone going out and financially supporting and/or purchasing the original media?" I really wanted to point this out because I believe you've used this factually incorrect argument in other videos the past.

At 11:00 your missing the point PapaGut the reactors ARE cannabalizing the original content, especially when they don’t give credit in any way or in the case of like Hasaan literally steal the video title and stealing the thumbnail putting himself over it. Hasaan is going to rank higher in the algorithim before the smaller creator would its simple YT knowledge. If 30 other huge reactors make videos on a topic before you do that’s limiting the amount of market share ie; views that YOU PapaGut would make. The only people that would be interested are A)People that haven’t seen the original or the 30 other reactions B)People that are already subscribed OR have already have a vested interest in what you say. As long as those reactors don’t post the YT content they aren’t competing algorithimically w the original. Thats literally the whole reason why people want to be the first one to cover a topic because it matters how much competition there is on a certain video topic or subject

He may not be able to do the worm but you definitely can do stranded seal 😂

OMG pausing to talk isn't going to make xqc's content transformative. The fact that you don't think it matters what you say as long as you add to the run time is scary. I'm not trying to be mean. I'm scared you're gonna get clapped dude. Learn fair use. For your own good.

When the internet anarchist says that impressions on his video was reduced by 80% after XQC uploaded his reaction to it I don't think he's talking about views. I think views and impressions are different. I'm not entirely sure. But views I believe come from when someone clicks the video and watches for a period of time. I believe impressions can be views but also it just showing up in people's feed. Even if they're just scrolling past it. So when he says impressions were down 80% I think he means that his video was 80% less visible after XQC's upload.

Fair use, transfomative content. "Length" does not matter. Otherwise you could just play an entire video and just pause for a few minutes at a time. "That video is 30% longer than the original, its safe."

when destiny said xqc was trainwashed talking about Ethan criticizing people from the high road, i chuckled because it is such a train whataboutism argument.

He did the worm, well the caterpillar lol

54:40 he's apologizing for saying that xqc had 40 seconds of dead air in between making comments

I’ve never watched XQC but my impressions from this would just make me not want to watch him more.

If your commentary on a video has enough substance to where it could stand as its own video Independent from the content you're reacting to, I think that is when you've created transformative content.

The Tasmanian devil has better points than xqc

I waited to watch this to see your reaction. Papa Gut for us fatherless kiddos. 😂

I subbed to that XQC guy a while back, not sure why I did that because some of his vids are alright I guess but he really annoys me most of the time.

I DIED AT THE END! You’re so outta pocket for no reason bro 🤣🤣🤣

Xqc is the next Albert Einstein, absolute genius

H3 is redeeming himself in a respectful way

Xqc is defiantly on adderal 24/7

The whole thing with the graph is it disputes the the notion that larger channels reacting to content in fact helps the smaller channels. Because there was a negligible at best influence.

Hey papa gut! I know for certain your content is transformative because saw the whole debate live and now I am here just for your commentary! But yeah the coffeezilla video ethan reacted too offers lots of edits and commentary. Ethan only watched about 10 minutes of the original video. Meaning he added at least 3 minutes to it. Could have used more commentary, but it is not as bad as you initially thought.

W ethan! Redemption arc. First the red pill bro, then the nxium guy, then oli london, then pearl thingz, now xwc!

I love Vince Vintage SO much. Been watching him for since the beginning. His content is top tier 💯

Robin and Dan: Prince of Thieves

13:30 aye aye aye true I might not have a dad but friendly fire papa

The "different audiences" thing hasnt ever really made sense to me personally. You could maybe argue that for twitch viewers as they'll stay in one place longer, but youtube viewers bounce from video to video, topic to topic constantly. A good example is mr beast, saying you dont think you have viewer crossover is just showing you're nieve to his true reach lmao, hes the biggest youtuber, i dont think theres a single community that doesnt have some of his fans in it. Hell i watch some of his vids from time to time, youtube viewers can and do watch a whole bunch of people. Also lastly and unrelated, can a single person genuinely nail down WHY people watch xqc? I legitematly have never been able to nail down the draw to him. Legit every other popular streamer has a draw, attractiveness, comedy, skill, and xqc just has a stutter. Is it just a lolcow thing? I refuse to believe people genuinely watch him for any other reason but to laugh

13:39 what the hell? thats us lol

It’s not really as complicated as you might think. Copyright doesn’t care what platform it’s on. In order for a video or a vod to fall under fair use, you either need permission to use the media, or you have to provide enough change to the original media to classify as a parody. So what you do would be fair use due to the fact that the video isnt constantly playing, you’re providing a decent amount of commentary, and you have a game playing in the background. Just smacking your face on a video in my opinion, is not transformative enough. You would need permission to just sit there and watch it, no questions asked

sometimes i watch the original content that you react to before you post. but 80% of the time i only watch the content because you react to it otherwise i wouldnt watch the content.

Take a shot everytime you hear PG say "okay

When xQc talks, i feel myself get dumber.

I like that you copied what destiny does at the start with the “coming up” gives a bit more hype to the intros and gets me more invested to watch the whole vid

13:40 ouch

17:18 This might be a “one guy” typa situation but I personally do watch your reactions instead of watching the core videos most times. Mainly because a lot of the stuff you react to are from creators I don’t personally follow, and it’s mainly for the conversational aspect of it. I feel like where the problem is with that same situation though, is people are using reaction channels almost as a For You Page situation where all of the most viral content is being pushed in their face by that RU-vidr. So it takes away the incentive to look for the video themselves.

I watched a video Tom did on xQc and it explained A LOT!

Watch DarkViperAU's video essay on how reaction content screws over YT creators. It's not up for debate, the react content absolutely does pull views away from the videos in question and utterly ruins the video's chance at growth.

“He could’ve gotten him On that! He could’ve got him on that!” Pap gut got a boner lmao

W music intro!

13:41 on god

I literally watched your video reacting to Turkey Tom's video because i thought he was a hack and don't want to give him the views. I did think you were very transformative and had great commentary, but i absolutely used your video as a substitute. As a veiwer it seems self evident to me that it is true of all react content and on some cases morally justified.

I gotta take a quick piss would be a good outdo tbh.

“Oh I hate Ethan. But x looks pretty bad.” Did I sum up pretty much everyone here in the comments?

I really dislike XQC but his point about "this much that much" was that in relation to how much they both upload the percentage is on equal footing on the react content ( according to him). But also, it's a dumb argument because it's more about XQC not being able to reflect on his on behavior. If you and Ethan just let him finish for a second it would probably explained. Yall the same bro.

Ethan will literally do the same shit XQC does, but with more coherent words. Because English is his first language. This whole argument was just an argument, there was no debate.😂