Yamaha SY35 Demo: The Presets | No Talking | Moot Booxle 

Thank you! These old Yamahas are some of my favorite toasters :)

That’s a great comment

This board was designed by Dave smith so it’s a nice toaster

Thanks my friend! I agree, it’s super “of its time” sounding! It sounds like a lot of Super NES soundtracks to me!

That slap bass felt very Earth Worm Jim. Edit: Now that I think about it you might get a kick out of The Flying King from EWJ2.

@@thb-music Every time I think of EWJ I just think about his damage sfx “Ayyyyow!” 😂 This synth is a SNES soundtrack waiting to happen!

@@mootbooxle “ohhhhhh nellyyy”

@@timnixx5733 hahaha yes 😂

Thanks Bill! There is something inspiring about these old sounds, to me.

I love this thing! It’s different from any other synth I’ve owned. Not quite FM, not quite wavetable, not quite ROMpler, something in between all that. Yes it’s actually pretty deep!

excellent! 🙏

Very cool observations :) Yes I think this thing is an ultra cheeze machine but as you said, a lot of those sounds fit nicely into a mix. Great synth for color as it sounds different to anything else in my collection! There is a delay parameter that you can turn on per element (and there are four elements, two 2OP FM and two 16-bit samples). In that sound I think they were also going for the effect of a harpsichord with two choirs of strings, where the plectrum plucks the upper set slightly after the lower set of strings. A lot of the sounds will be two copies of each element, slightly detuned, and panned LR for a big stereo image.

I appreciate that very much!!

This synth is good at that!

thank you!!

thanks bro :)

thank you!!

thanks Howard!

The next demo, I’ll talk a bit and show off that very thing! There’s actually a lot of fine control over the vector movement - you can record a loop of the vector joystick movements and save that into the sound. Each “frame” of the vector movement can be edited to produce a specific effect if you so desire.

thank you!!

Thanks for your excellent comment my friend…so, would you want a sample pack of multisamples (Kontakt or EXS24 or something) of this synth? Someone with some knowledge beyond mine could easily design a “virtual” SY35, since it’s just low-quality mono samples + 2 OP FM. It would be cool to have a software version!

@@mootbooxle you could sell some great little licks and lines as well as single hits easily, the MootBooxle deluxe FM pack wav samples or whatever, just a thought but beyond the sound I feel people would pay for the funk, I’d use some stuff

Awesome! I’d still like to have a TG33 eventually, just for that form factor! They go for more money than I’m willing to spend on one right now though.

​@@mootbooxle Yeah …the TG33 looks really sexy! And it fits perfectly in a 19“ rack. Funky vibes..

thank you!

Thank you Devin for the comment! I feel like not many appreciate these old Yamaha synths, but the ones who do, such as yourself, and myself, really find a lot to love there - great sounds and build quality!

Totally!

Cheezy but good!

I think it depends on what other kit you have - if you have the basics covered the SY35 will give all sorts of wild sounds to your arsenal. But if you still need to cover some basics the Korg is probably the better choice!

@@mootbooxle wow really immediate response, huge thanks! I just discovered your channel and you are really doing a GREAT job! My fault and I was about to clarify, we have no other synths in the band (two el. guitars, el. bass, drums) just an old Yamaha psr150, this is going to be our first... I think each prevails in its own field, it's natural, they are totally different in topology... My thoughts exactly, the Korg X5Dr is far more versatile and has the huge multilayered pad attack that makes you freeze... But the Yamaha has the glitch, the cheese, the sneeze...!!! We should totally get both. Thank you sooo much, you responded immediately and reviewed the Yamaha perfectly!!! (Huge repertoire and top aesthetics you surely have...!) Discovering you friend, just made my evening. Huge thanks!!!

yes! you can make multi set ups that include up to eight different sounds in whatever combinations or key assignment you choose.

Thank you for your comment! I was definitely going for a Bernard Herrmann type of thing in one spot. The maddening thing about Yamaha is that they would often add features on a newer model while taking away others. Like the DX11 is a major improvement and also a major downgrade at the same time. A filter on the SY vector synths would have been amazing!

@@mootbooxle My kingdom for a filter. Not sure why Yamaha synth chips designs did not include filters back then... maybe because they were still coming off of FM syntheis. Korg was under the ubrella of Yamaha R&D at the time, so the M1, the Wavestation, the 01W and synths from Korg in that time frame were also without filters.

@@mootbooxle exactly...

Go for it! It’s a very interesting sounding machine…unlike anything else!

Cheers my friend! i appreciate you listening!

I love that soundtrack.

:) Thanks! I’ll talk in the next one :)

😂😂😂

It’s a Vectorola!

Vectoria’s Secret

@@ladyapp-titude hahaha

To the Vector go the spoils

@@ladyapp-titude hahaha

thanks my friend!

That is interesting indeed… I can’t think of any of the top of my head! I should look into that.

I think “bad” is subjective! It sounds beautiful to me, but not in a way comparable to modern sample-based instruments or Omnisphere or something. It has its own cheezy character that I find lovely. It would be hard to have this as the only synth, although as a kid it would have thrilled me! As a complement to other gear, it’s a great synth to have. Cheers!

oh yeah this synth would be gr8

yes it is odd that these don’t have parameters for velocity/aftertouch control of the FM modulator. That would definitely make it a more expressive synth! The Yamaha vector synths seem like a clever repackaging of tech that was being employed in their PSR/PSS series. They could have definitely taken it further!

@@mootbooxle I guess YAMAHA.called it DASS on PSR/DSR & other series. More or less accidentally I've got 2 TG33 some years ago but actually would prefer SY35. In your video it seems it's resolution is higher. TG33's basic sound has not really blown me away, but in your video there ain't the slightest thing to complain. Almost everything sounds fresh. In the meantime I guess even SY22/TG33/SY35 have become cult. Many prefer the previous (worse sounding) ones, that don't sound more interesting but musty. Occasionally there are some totally into it. My personal opinion is that some lofi devices sound totally cool & nasty, like KORG DS8 (if programmed accordingly) but TG33 is neither fish nor flesh. SY35 seems to sound explicitly better.

nah but I need to! Tipper is awesome.

It would be so fun to have a 22 here to compare the raw sounds with the 35. They don’t really seem that different to me! The 12-bit AWM Yamaha sound is among my favorites! I imagine the SY22 samples have a lot of sonic similarities to the PSS-790 or one of the DASS engine synths.

oh and Insta totally borks the audio, it’s like it goes through a low pass filter.

@@mootbooxle When I move soon, I can definitely lend you mine so you can make a comparison video. Mine is decently mint.

I have the 33. It's definitely grungier than the 35!

I think the only real difference is the bit resolution of the AWM samples - 12-bit in the SY22 and 16-bit in the SY35.

that’s awesome!

@@mootbooxle I got the wavestate a year ago, However i can't quit my wavestation And the D50 was a 61 key velocity and AT synth Mine was stolen in 2012 so i got the D-05 and the sy35 maps to the A/D joystick and all and also to the wavestate which responds to AT And 61 vel/at keys? Yep D50 all the way.

@@kevingamache1512 that is cool that the joystick works for that!

you mean can you animate the vector control? Yes! You can record the movement of the joystick into a macro that either loops or plays once.

@@mootbooxle There is a preset called vectaseq on Yamaha SY22. Is it on Yamaha SY35?

@@Knightlain I don’t think so, but I’m sure it could be re-created as long as in the same source samples are there. From what I understand, the two machines are virtually identical except for the bit resolution (12-bit vs 16-bit).