What I find interesting about a lot of bikes (I may be the only person who finds this interesting) is that you say that you find yourself short shifting. I would imagine that's at around 7k, as both the power climbs steeply between 6.5 and 7 and the torque max's out. So, probably, for a large chunk of the time, you're riding a 95 bhp bike... I think a lot of people look at bhp figures as what they will get when they are riding it, but for a lot of the time, I think it's more important to see what you're getting in the mid range... Unless it's a track bike, top end power has very little relevance....
You could spin that to be a bad thing, but personally (and contrary to popular sayings), I prefer to ride a fast bike slow. For day to day riding, I like feeling like I’m not stressing my bike. Like it’s designed to handle a lot more, but only if I want to use it. I’d much rather use 95/115hp than 95/95hp.
Thats all true enough until one is playing ...maybe only brief bursts but its there when you need it! Its how I see it...it like other aspects of a bike what it CAN do in the extreme yet rarely called on like extreme braking or top speed or weight capacity etc etc. At the other end folks buying tiny motorcycles and wringing the bike's neck every minute to keep up with traffic lol
Yea I've ridden a few tracers and that engine is all about the mid range, after 7k it kinda loses interest, ( still producing good power though) but really lovely up to it. When touring on my old fazer 1000, with a mate on a 17 reg tracer, I felt the tracer felt like a whippet compared to the greyhound fazer. I. E. Super enthusiastic, but waned ultimately.. Great though!!
in the end it doesn't matter, one enjoys the bike and shifts they way they feel like, obviously if one feels the need for more power one allows the revs to go higher, but nobody is worried if they are using every last HP from the bike if you aren't racing
Im 5 10 I keep the screen in high position mostly and unless it is windy day (depending on direction) I have zero issues with the supposed buffeting others complain about but then I also have zero issues with the seat that so many testers claim is horrible ...dont get me wrong I am not saying it is plush or wonderful but it causes me no pain in particular either even riding for 5 hours or more. The one downside I DO aggree with is that the brakes are rather lack luster ...I think Yamaha really dropped the ball not giving this bike better binders ....it is 70 pounds heavier than the MT09 after all (that I assume has these same brakes.?) Oh I also aggree with complaints that the little wheel control on the right grip is clumsy and the guages are not all that great....it takes some getting used to and there is no excuse for it if you ask me
Nice review, not got a Tracer or even a Yamaha but owned many in the past. I do have a few GS’s including a 750 I know it’s different and probably never really pushed but it’s returning nearly 70mpg. That aside just wanted to comment on screens and height because I think this is the wrong measure. I’m just over 6 foot but only have a 32 inch inside leg meaning longer upper body so I tend to sit higher up and always have problems with screens. A comparison would be another RU-vidr TMF who says he has a 32 inch inside leg but is only 5 foot 8. So it’s not just height it’s how your body is composed that matters how good a screen is going to be for you.
Good review chaps… Just have a few of my own thoughts to add here after my first 6,500 miles. The 1st thing to address is the high speed stability issue, this is purely down to the screen choice as I now well know, after trying several different ones on mine, it does not like a tall screen on at all when you get close to 3-digit speeds!! I now have a Givi screen (which properly shields the USB port) on mine, which I have had to cut 3-inches off the top of, as the turbulence was actually worse than the original screen, never thought that could actually be possible!?.. It’s much better now as a result, and is the best one I’ve tried on it so far, thankfully, as this issue has been a total nightmare for me.. 2nd is the mpg, I nearly always get 170 miles before the last bar starts flashing, and I’ve actually covered a further 42 miles once it does, which gives me an average of 52mpg, and I’m not going easy on it for a good 50% of each ride.. In fact, during last years tour I managed to get 245 miles between a couple of fuel stops, giving me an average of 61mpg! Their have been two recalls on this bike, the latter being an ECU remap from Yamaha, that addresses the stalling issue on the bike, with the other being a throttle tube replacement from plastic to a metal one.. It’s a brilliantly spec’d bike for the money, not much comes close to it in terms of value, yes it’s not perfect - but no bike is IMO!.. And looks are always subjective, and personally I do really like the look of it. Mine is in the Tech Kamo colour scheme, which I personably think it looks the best in! 😎 I’d agree entirely with that comment, with it being a Swiss Army Knife of a bike! 👍🏻 I still love mine and have no plans to swap in anytime soon.
I see no reason to exceed "the ton" though I have got carried away a time or two and never the slightest wobble detected....I'm not calling anyone a liar of course as there are so many variables in roads and the loads one ends up with. I am generally carrying light luggage and I weigh "only" 200llbs with all my substantial gear on. I keep the seat in the low position and the suspension mostly in A1 unless I am riding for more than several hours in a go. The preload I keep at factory setting tires also factory specs 42 rear 36 front....no wobbles just really nice handling. What a wonderful motorcycle! I am not inclined to trade it in unless the 2023 tempts me with new clocks and radar cruise control and more! I am already dreaming how good that will be! Would LOVE to see better brakes on the 2021 Tracer 9GT +
I have a '16 super tenere. Just sold my 03 fz1 (which I owned for 17 years). I test rode a tracer 9 gt yesterday. It felt very high quality, excellent all around. What I was concerned about was how light and twitchy the front end felt even compared to my fz. That can be fun but much of my riding is loaded for camping. I'm worried about having to pay too much attention to the front tire.
Another superb video! As I've had the T9-GT since they came out; moving from a 2018 T900-GT, I watch any videos of these bikes with interest. Here's my 2-pence worth: Engine Performance - This is certainly a step-up in torque from the previous version, with less vibration and smoother (yet more 'urgent') power delivery. Bike for bike, on the road, I don't think I'd be any quicker on my MT-10 than this, which would only really get ahead once the speed limit has been passed. Economy - This does depend on how you ride it. Sticking the cruise control on at 50mph on the motorway would no doubt see impressive numbers, but I always feel like the delta between sensible and fun is a 'fuel tax' worth paying. However, knowing that this bike can deliver good mileage is no bad thing. I get circa 200 miles to a tank on a relaxing motorway run and less when pushing or stop/start. Engine Character - As mentioned above, power isn't lacking. I'm not a fan of the sound of triples though. Moreover, I think I'm probably the only person who thinks this bike is too loud! Maybe it's the exhaust exiting the bottom of the bike and the reflection back up to the rider, or maybe Yamaha's deliberate enhancement of the induction noise that's to blame, but I'd definitely prefer a little less of whatever it is. Valve Clearances & Servicing - I've not got that far yet. Brakes - I have to say, these impressed me. I do lean quite heavily on the front brake, perhaps partly down to being a regular track rider. I like to trail-brake and take some liberties and these have plenty of power. Yes, the feel may be a little numb, but they're on the better side of adequate. Suspension - I have the GT, so the bike is fitted with Semi-Active KYB suspension. There's a noticeable difference between A1 and A2 settings and I tend to use A1 for all but the most uneven of roads. I feel like there's plenty of braking and acceleration damping, as well as good control of rebound. It does a respectable job all round. The Screen - Typically, the bigger the screen (and more upright it is) the bigger the potential difference in air-pressure between front and back. The faster you go the more the air is going to want to fill that area of low-pressure and buffeting will ensue. There are a few additional parameters to consider; helmet, weather, clothing, size shape of rider etc. and it all comes down to a compromise of how much weather protection you want vs how much buffeting you can tolerate. I personally (at 182cm) find an MRA Spoiler on a stock screen is 'ok'. Others' experiences will differ, so I personally think this comes down to individual trial and error. Seat Comfort - I found the stock seat fine. However, I like to have some warmth, so changed to the heated seat very early on; as I did with my previous 2018. Integration of the heated seat on the 2021 is very good and heat levels are easy to see on the dash, next to the grips display. Stability - I have had no problems with this, at varying speeds. I appreciate others have suggested it's not great, but I can only comment from my own experience here. Best Tyres - I've got on well with the OE Bridgestones and suspect I'll stick with these when the time comes to change. Pillion & Luggage - I don't carry pillions, so can't comment on that. Luggage wise however, I have fully loaded the Panniers on a trip away, including my SW-Motech ADV style Top-Box and it has been fantastic. The Panniers are a good size and being able to stow a helmet is very useful. Value for Money - This is a real strength for the T9. At circa £12k, with a trade in the PCP makes this an affordable every-day bike. I use mine (and my last 2018) for commuting, touring, and racking up the mileage. PCP makes sense and takes away a little bit of the 'I don't want to get her dirty' issue I have with bikes I actually own. I take receipt, cover in ACF-50, and keep regularly re-applying for the three year term. When it comes time to hand the bike back it's always mint! She looks a little dishevelled in the meantime, but it's a workhorse for me. Styling & Build Quality - As mentioned, covering in ACF-50, and the added fact that I have a humidity-controlled garage, keeps the bike pristine (underneath the dirt!) and I've found no issues with parts deteriorating. The flimsiest bit I touch daily is the paper-thin USB bracket, which belies the otherwise very good quality componentry. I also LOVE the way this bike looks, and I'd happily give a detailed walk-around to explain why I think so! I think it's a clever, inspired design, that has a perfect (for me) mix of both utilitarian and beautifully eye-catching aesthetics. Likes & Dislikes - I'll be brief here, as you're probably nodding off with such a long post! I like everything bar the following: The data wheel needs to be on the left-hand side, as it's a pain to use when also controlling the throttle and I shouldn't have to be at a standstill or have the cruise control on to avoid jerking the throttle every time I want to adjust the grip heat. The USB socket bracket is made of cheese, and not a very strong cheese at that. The key is a bit buried, but I guess it needs to engage the steering lock so possibly unavoidable. I find it too loud, as mentioned earlier. Screen aerodynamics could be improved; there are simple ways of providing better air pressure balance and it would be nice to see some advancements here. Would I buy one - I did, so that’s a big yes! AOB: I’ve had both recalls carried out on my bike and the ECU re-map element of this transformed the throttle response, QS/Blipper smoothness, and eliminated the stalling problem I had when riding through congested traffic. Having been an Engineer for 25-years I can’t bring myself to criticise companies for minor defects, I’m more interested in how they rectify problems. As such, my Main Dealer (as always) was fantastic, minimising any disruption and ultimately rectifying the issue.
@@TheF4llen77 No worries, having re-read it, 2-years on, I wouldn’t change anything. I’m now on my second T9-GT, as I accumulated so many miles on the last one I was in danger of having little residual value for the PCP trade in. I grabbed another new (2023) and have covered another 12k trouble-free miles to date. You mention the GT+. I did consider this, but on balance I decided not to. The main benefits of the GT+ are the integrated SatNav and the Adaptive Cruise. I have the adaptive cruise on my car, and it drives me nuts in anything other than in slow, stop/start traffic, at which point, on the bike, I’d be filtering through. The integrated Nav appears to be a paid subscription based thing. It’s also a bit of a step backward to when my Nav was mounted on the handlebar yolk, something I personally didn’t like. My Garmin XT is mounted high up, so I don’t have to take my eyes off the road for more than a cursory glance. Therefore, the two benefits of the GT+ didn’t seem worth it for me, but others may have a very different view.
I’ve got 20,000 km on my 2021 9gt. All comments I totally agree with. Fantastic bike. But does not inspire romantic love at first sight like some others. That said. Not going to sell mine anytime soon. Too perfect a ride. Things I love. All the pro’s they mentioned. Things I don’t The one sided headlamp, the seat just sucks so bought a Corbin that doesn’t make me slide my nuts into the tank, bought highway pegs to stretch my legs, got rid of bug screen and bought a shorty windshield. The best part about this bike is riding it - that seems about right.
The closeup shots of the brake hose connections and the front wheel spindle were a bit disturbing as to how much corrosion has happened in such a short mileage. Does not bode well for the longer term owner. Or, is that because you are a bunch of lazy buggers when it comes to cleaning and because they are not your personal bikes, you are not bothered?
I know it's shallow, and simple-minded, and wrong-headed, but I don't think I would be able to live with that hideous scuba-mask dash staring back at me every ride.
I did a demo ride on the Tracer 9GT over the weekend, and I'm surprised that none of the reviews adequately characterize how bad the displays themselves are. They're completely unreadable in full sun, even in dim lighting the size, layout, and fonts are remarkably bad.
I finally got to test one today and loved it. The seating position, the feel, so many things have put this in contention as my next bike. But I agree with them about the looks, just don’t love the looks.
Watched video to bitter end now. The pauses at the final question were more telling than the answers, it’s a resounding No. Garage Wood 😂, the word passion being thrown around at the end 🤔. Oddball fairing ‘legs’ going down the sides of the radiator, stupid cornering lights ….. why not just have them as spotlights on a switch, or decent daytime running lights where they are. It’s too dim during the day, your visibility to other road users pitiful. Normal bike, with standard headlight, you just put low beam on. But with the oddball tiny R1 type lights down low (and the fact you only get One on!) how does anyone see you when your ‘headlight’ is two square inches? Shoot me now 😡🤢☠️
I'd really like to know which the bikes are that Simon mentioned were hard to give back after a long test period. Brilliant review, really liked the exchanged and added opinions of the owners.
When speaking about build quality I’m surprised that you didn’t touch on the exhaust. The one on John’s bike is pretty sorry looking for a bike with 5-6000 miles on the clock.
Interesting to hear your comment about the clutch snatch when cold. I have had exactly the same issue with my MT10. One frosty morning it took three attemps to get away!! I suspect this is more than just an adjustment problem, as the issue was acompanied by a strangely heavy feel from the clutch lever. I wonder if there is a sticking plate, or slipper mechanism problem at play?
Hi..just brought the new tracer 9gt yesterday!...turned on RU-vid and I can't believe it..there was your video on the tracer 9gt. So I watched it and I have to agree with everything you both said about the bike spot on!... I have the old tracer 900 GT and wanted to up grade to either Kawasaki Ninja 1000sx or the Suzuki gsxs1000gt. But nothing beats the tracer when it comes to value for money, and I have always said its a "jack of all trades and master of none!" But what Simon was right in saying was "when you look back it should make you think wow that's my bike!" and ok it doesn't!. But for me I need that Swiss army knife!.
Great video, I love mine, the recent recall's made it ever smoother, not done mega miles on mine yet, dont like the tiny text etc on the L screen I thought the OEM tyres are fine, buffeting from the screen can be a tad annoying, apart from that what a loverly functional bike, M
I have ride this now for 6000+ km, wind bufferting is the worst I came across, rear braking respond poor, CP3 high resonance vibration is bad when you on long ride, poor air flow at engine area cause heating at leg area, engine power n respond good
Can anyone tell me why, after a few thousand miles, the exhaust looks so discoured on this model? Spoils the look for the bike for me - Or is it just a case of keeping it clean?
There is a recall for the engine stalling (software update). Still riding my sporty first mt-09 tracer! Hearing your story the new one is more comfy / touring. Greets from Holland.
Good review, nice chat about the bike. For me, it's so ugly that I don't care how good it is, I wouldn't buy one, unless it's the only bike on the market. It has a face not even its mama could look at it.
My friend is very unhappy with his new 22 plate gt as he’s sure the front wheel bearings have gone (under 200 miles). Dealer still looking into it, as the is a strange noise?
I love everything about this bike except that display setup, feels like I am staring at someone where one of those silly glasses/nose masks with the large eyebrows! Once someone pointed that out in another video, I can't unsee it! Not a deal breaker, but I wish they had kept the display from the previous version!
Great vid of two blokes raving about how good a bike is for an hour, then when asked if they would buy one? answer "Nah" still right up the top of my list for next bike... (used Dulville included)
I think that was a good overview in general. I have done a couple of thousand miles on my Tracer 9 after owning a 2015 MT 09 Tracer. I have to say I would agree the only big issue is the screen. Ive changed mine for the Ermax sport and its much better but the original bikes screen was pants too, and the old one was not the bike this is. I love mine and totally agree that if you can only afford one bike and you want it to do everything this is a great option at a relatively (compared to some of the competition) good price. PS I dont have an issue with the clocks i think they add character (all be it the character of a diver)
I really love that rusty cheap as chips tatty exhaust, if I walked into my garage and saw that on a Sunday morning it wouldn't fill my heart with lust, I used to own a Fazer 1000 2003 that was the last street bike that Yamaha actually built to a quality rather than a price....
@@bennettsbikesocial Will do! At the moment this bike is on the list plus the Kawasaki Ninja 1000 SX, Suzuki GSX-1000 GT and the new Triumph Tiger 660 Sport.
The only two things I'd change are - the stock screen and the Mode button. Otherwise it's great. The clocks suit me, all the small digits are on things i never change, I like the programmability of the second screen to see things i care about in bigger letters - in particular the cruise control target speed. It's comfortable and eats miles without being as heavy or expensive as the GS or Triumph 1200.
28:10 Saying the Bridgestone T32's are really good while there is still hair on the tyre... This hurts my eyes and doesnt justify the statement that they are really good Nice review. Love how u at least road them for a long time instead of just 1 trip of an hour and reviewing. Keep up the good work
Why not go the other way with that engine? If Yamaha put that motor in an R1 chassis how much better would it be to ride on the road? Or 900 Tenere anyone? Ride safe.
When this bike was announced, I said I was going to buy one! I loved it, yes, even the clocks and the one-eyed lights. Then I found it had a thumb wheel on the RH bar. I lost my right thumb 16 years ago so this is a deal breaker for me. I have a Yamaha Super Tenere and that has a lovely simple set of switch gear on the LH bar, so why did Yamaha make it so complicated? 10 settings for the heated grips? Come on guys!
Hi gents, great review as always! I've been watching your review on the Kawasaki Versys 1000 (2019 tho) for which you said you would buy it as for a great allarounder. Would you finally choose the T9(GT) over the Kawa?
The worst thing about the crappy switchgear design and the screen - they've been problems for years and years now, and Yamaha still hasn't done anything about them.
I look at the bike as a candidate held out from being a winner because of the instrumentation and the overall fuel range. I don’t care to have every ride break interval tied closely to a fuel stop interval. At about 220 miles of range that’d be less a likelihood than when there’s a low fuel light at 140 miles.
Great review. Yes, I have the '15. I've had many bikes, and this is great for "real world use", but I'm not passionate about it. Funny thing is, as you mentioned...it gets you to places quick. Never late for work on it. But now that I work from home?...well now it just kind of sits there. Yeah, enough said. The girl next door, but not the prom queen!
Hello Guys, Anyone knows this fault solution? 2022 Tracer 9 GT loss power within 5-10 seconds after a take off. The power I get from the very start is 60% more and 40% after 5-10 seconds. ive changed the fuel pump and the 3 injector nozzles but still to no avail. this started the very day I installed a keyless fuel tank cover. After I arrived at a friends house, like 5klm. I came back to the bike after 3 hours and when I start the bike, I noticed petrol coming out from the exhaust and I immediately turn off the engine until the next day, I changed the engine oil and start the bike and I noticed that I’m losing power after a few seconds. If I stop, turn off and turn on again, the initial take off is awesome but drop after a few seconds again. I didnt experience this with the stock fuel tank cover. So today, I loosed the tank cover and screwed it half way, but still no change. please do you’ve a solution?
HI! right now i have a base tracer 9, and i loved it. But i want to go either for the tracer9 GT+ or the bmw s1000XR M, and i cant really choose. Id love both... My mechanic says tracer but my guts say XR... Help me whoever have the experience please
Excellent and very thorough John 👍👍 love SH, he's a great journo these days - plus he was at Performance Bikes in the 90s, it was the best magazine by a distance, fun, factual, inventive and really well produced...plus I was younger !
Soooo sorry. I'm a bit behind your video, but a tracer mt09 with a standard screen takes alot of beating. It's stable and secure. I've ridden the 900 and the gt and gt+ But still the original takes it, yes OK the modern fairing is better but I'd still pick the original as it just lights a fire where the new boy just seems to lose its hold. Sorry guys
I get it about the bike not doing it for me. It is a brilliant bike, but the design does not talk to the passion of the heart. Maybe it has to do with how all the parts, as good as they are, are thrown, haphazardly, together. Reminds me of the way BMW car twin turbo engine parts are thrown together, mumbo jumbo like.
I had the first tracer and went through 5 screens and ended up the best was no screen. Nice video comparing older versions and very detailed and love using the feedback from owners. Great idea. Re the triples, my last 3 bikes all been triples and love them.
Great review. I agree with many of the things said. I've had mine since June 2021 and have only put in a little over 4k miles at this point. That said, I think I know what I like and don't like about the bike. Since I agree with most of the opinions, I'll just mention that thing I like the most and hate the most. Hate the Most: Dash controls. More often than not, when I try to select the thing I want, I end up scrolling past it. Like the Most: Engine. My first triple and it has been a joy to ride around town and in the Rockies.
I had the tracer 900 gt with lots of upgrades to it. 320 brake rotors and braided brake lines, k-tech rear shock and k-tech cartridge front. Flashed the ecu with an aftermarket exhaust resulted in a much smoother throttle. Also had the ermax short screen. But no matter what i did the bike still handled ''funny''. Before the tracer i had a 2016 kawasaki z1000sx. The kawi is a much better bike for sport touring with emphasis on the sport side. Sold the tracer for a 2020 mt-10. Best decision ever, I'm in love with that one :D Greetings from sunny Greece
What a fantastic and thorough review! All bike reviews should follow this format. I own a MT09 Tracer and I get the weave behind high sided vehicles. I presumed it was the short swinger arm or crap suspension. The tracer 9 hasn't improved this.
Love the charts! The fact that you took the time to survey other riders was interesting and helpful. Thinking about the bike in the states. The tiny main LED lights are worrisome. I’ve had people roll down their windows at a stoplight and tell me that one of my lights was burned out. I wish Yamaha would just keep both bulbs on with low beam.
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It depends on the law... In EU the bikes must have odd numbers off lights....
yes, engine and suspension are the big pro's of this bike. The rest (look, display, connectivity, breaks, seat height etc) is between average and "meh" to my opinion and other reviews....
Thanks for this guys. I bought a 24 Tracer GT+ recently. This clip helped me decide. You bring up steering dampers. Imagine you're not an overly confident rider, riding normal speeds but in Asia on sometimes dreadful roads, and money is not a barrier, if i install an Oohlins steering damper is there any downside?
I loved my MT09 Tracer (2015) , had ktech fitted front and rear, and with pilot road 5's it was fantastic on twisty roads. But the throttle was such an on off switch that at low speeds, and moving off at turns and stuff just ruined the rides. (Tried a booster plug, meh) Now you've given me a notion for another one. BAH!
15:29 Buffering can be very annoying and takes away a lot of driving pleasure. And because it's exhausting, it's actually a safety issue. That's why I'm shocked how indifferent most manufacturers are in this regard. They put good looks (which is a matter of opinion) above practicality. Yamaha knows their stock screen sucks, but they don't do anything about it on purpose. I think that's a slap in the face to their customers. That said, I've done some research myself and know it's a complex issue, but that's no reason to run away from it. Actually, there are two aspects that need to be addressed. The first is that the problem changes at different speeds. That's why an electrically adjustable screen should be standard on each touring motorcycle like airco in a car. The second aspect is reducing the negative pressure behind the screen.
Interesting discussion about features and value vs. the subjective experience of “loving” or being passionate about a bike… look-back factor if you will. I quite like the looks of the Tracer 9 GT, but if I’m being honest, the bikes I really love are the modern classics, like a Z900RS, which has no tech or comfort features at all. But I feel like I’m I’m in high school looking at my crush when I see and hear one. And at the end of the day that is what it boils down to. There’s nothing pragmatic or practical about motorcycling for me no matter hard I try to convince my wife of it. It’s about thrills, the beauty of the machine, and the joy of the ride.
Great review. Very in detail, covering more than you usually get from any kind of review. So, a big thumb up here. Subscribed for a long time. :) Keep going guys.
Hmm... if I were doing more touring woth my wife, I'd go for the Versys. If I were to be using it more on my own for back roads, the Tracer. Cheers, John
@@bennettsbikesocial cheers for the reply I’m torn between the 2 bikes I think the Versys has more weather protection from what I read but the tracer is a lot lighter I’m coming from an fjr 1300.
@Jamie i had an Ecu update and mine stalled over or twice as mentioned. The update transforms the fuelling very notably, it’s short of having a tuning upgrade! Much more responsive in all modes, especially from taking off abs much smoother QS.
Old vid now but I noticed you are calling the original version the "MR-09 Tracer" Must be UK/Euro naming because in the US everyone calls that original generation the "FJ09" I think though I have only heard of them never had or even rode one personally. Shoot now there is significantly updated Tracer 9gt+ so 4th generation? Depending what constitutes a true generation ? given it is still the same engine frame wheels bod ywork and more
BTW I wonder if the s1000xr does not have just as many seperate panels as the tracer up front rather than "one piece of p;astic with 8 screws why dont they just do that?" comment? Because after that he compared the XR as being done right ? I love the RR but the XR? Is just as "dad bike" looking as the Tracer IMHO...I mean other than the German badge which tends to impress more folks than any Japanese badge. Was funny the first time I filled up my red tracer 9gt a guy filling up next to me did a thumbs up and said "Nice man! Ducati the only way to go" or something similar ...I didnt have the heart to tell him he was oogling a Japanese bike lol....But I get it a red tracer 9 looks enough like a Ducati Multistrada to confuse a non biker
Great review... I have a 2021 T9GT and love it, despite a few shortcomings... Seat sucks, windscreen funnels all the wind into your face, horrible... The ride by wire restrictions make it feel neutered in 2nd more than any other gear for some reason... You pin the throttle and nothing happens till you hit 6000rpm... The dash is cool, but they couldn't add pairing to your phone? And the stock T32 tires are garbage. I found the profile squaring and sluggish to turn in, and grip was poor. Threw them in the trash after 300 miles and switched to Michelin Road 5's and now I can rail on the bike and do a track day with no issues.
@@bennettsbikesocial The T32's aren't good for how I ride. Had the back end step out on me twice and that was it. In the trash they went, no issues with the new tires. About the midrange... It's ok once you get above 6k on the tach. Before that, especially in second gear, its horrible. It's like 1980's turbo lag. You are at 4,000rpm in second, and you pin the throttle, and it takes a very slow and lazy 4 seconds to climb to 6000rpm, and then you feel the throttlebodies open up and it takes off. It's downright lethargic before 6000rpm. I guarantee that when I get it on the dyno and my tuner pulls up the ETV tables in Woolich, that I will see that at 100% throttle, it's delivering 40% power or so until it hits 6000rpm and then increases... A lot of bikes do these types of restrictions today, but Yamaha seems to have gone overboard on this particular model...
I found the same with the T32's slipped a few times too many for my liking. I've changed to Road 6's and the difference is very noticeable. I also found the acceleration was sluggish, almost as though it was in a rain mode. After the recall re-flash it is a totally different bike.
@@TheStevephi I just had the recall reflash done, and didn't feel any difference. The sluggish throttle response, I can address with an aftermarket flash from my tuner using the Woolich software... Here is a link to my tuner, showing all the restrictions that Yamaha throws in there on our cousin, the MT09... The Tracer, given its role as a sport tourer, has to be at LEAST as restricted as the new MT09, so the gains should be pretty significant... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-irj6E41c94s.html
I pretty much agree with you, the T32's are the worst tyres I've ever had on a bike, poor feedback and complete lack of trust in them. Stability at speed is the second letdown for me on this bike, prob due to yamaha's touring screen, tyres and the occasional side wind going over 90 can be a big mistake. That said, on a sunny spring day with proper tyres this bike is a joy.
7k miles now I had one or two incidents where something in ecu went into fault mode with some functions shut down like quick shifter it self cleared arget fiddling but I understand there is a recall to reflash ....even though it apparently DOES apply to my bije Yamaha never sent me a notice maybe they just PRESUMED I would take the bike back tp the shop for service fooled them I did it myself. The only other issue is once in a while the rear brake honks intermittenly....I have no idea why anyone else here know? I found btw that the front DOES wobble or occilate whatever at like 110mph like you say not at normal speeds ...it has only done this with my latest set of Road Smart 4 so maybe it is not properly balanced ....the first set I had the beads in maybe that was better? idk
24:10 Perhaps the RU-vid commenter meant 140 kph, not 140 mph? Seems more likely. Regarding seat comfort, installing Sargent seats on my 2018 Tracer 900 provided a big improvement.
It's crazy it gets only 50 mpg. I get better fuel economy with my 2017 Suzuki Baleno. Over the +40k kilometers I drove it, the average consumptions is 55 mpg UK, considering the fact I used it like 70/30 urban to motorway ratio. Not very efficient this bike...
Which bikes would you buy over this one with your own money? You didn't mention specific bikes in the video.Cheers for the videos by the way. I'm always watching!
Good review. Wouldn’t disagree with anything you said. I use mine to tour and as a weekend pooteler. I only have room for one bike and for the money it’s brilliant. Bought with 3,000 miles on it and I’d say it’s the best all round bike on the market at the moment. Looks like it was designed by a 16yo though so tend to walk away quickly when I park it up.
Got a 2017 and still own it, it’s that good after a couple mods. The screen was like a hurricane, absolute crap. No screen in summer, very tall Givi with deflector in winter. The only screen that stopped the noise after trying loads. Nitron rear shock sorted the handling. All in, now a great bike where I can use the full power of the engine for a very reasonable total cost. Oh, and did I mention how light it is?
Mode button where headlight flash is Soooo annoying 😡, my gixxer is the same, hate it. On paper, during your chat, and in the flesh (metal), this should be the perfect bike for me. But I just can’t pull the trigger on it with it being such an uninspiring fugly thing (I’m with Simon) with ridiculous tiny clocks I can’t read. Presently stuck in a never ending cycle of thinking about M/Strada V2S - Tiger 900 Roadie Pro - Tiger Sport 660. Heart says Tigger9 🤔. Great Video boys 👍
a few points, in my 53 yrs with a range of bikes, i stopped using top boxes decades ago and if touring panniers and tank bag has always been my go to set up. Then in 2007 a I bought a sport touring Ducati 916 ST4 which I've still got and done about 90,000 kms on in bog std trim except Zero Gravity ST screen. These Tracer 9 Gt are great bikes but it is not acceptable too have this well reported weave. All bikes can get disturbed following a high sided vehicle because of the unavoidable swirling air currents. They said 140 mph becomes a potentially dangerous situation. Even when totally loaded and two up my 22 yr old ST4 is totally stable and still pulling strong upto 150mph (only done twice one up) and the handling and road holding flawless. No need for steering damper! your tyres Bridgestone T32 will be great touring, but as an old codger i need my Bridgestone S22 hypersports as mental insurance, but they do not heat up quickly (10kms needed) as if give it the throttle whilst vertical it lights up the rear tyre (triple compound). upside is medium and shoulder grip is phenominal. just my 2 cents.
I’m getting rid of my 2017 GSX1000-S to get one of these. I test rode one on a whim, thought I’d think nothing of it but it made me think about all the things I haven’t got on the GSX. Albeit the GSX is a naked beast, but that’s half the problem; 163 bhp (full system and re-map) and you just get battered all over the place. And unless you’re on a track, the power is just not worth the risk to both life or licence. Whereas the Tracer gives you that bit of everything, and you don’t mind banging it though wet / winter riding too. A real experience opener, opposed to having an 8k naked thing that’s only used in dry weather. You’d even give the sports bike guys a run on some twisties 😉
Hello all just got one today. Did 500km from the dealer and felt a bit of vibrations on motorway, around 5000rpm, there is a high frequency vibes that you fell in the handlebar and pegs. Is it just me? Anyone feels this. Thanks
I have a Tracer 9 GT and have a Yamaha 51 litre Top Box for it, but can't use it as in these Covid disrupted times, the mounting plate has been on back order for 5 months. I presume Shad make the mounting plate, but Shad HQ in Spain said they knew nothing about it, so perhaps it is Shad US. However, I would like to see if I can source a mounting plate myself seeing Yamaha NZ seem incapable of supplying one.
Calimoto is now useless , i took my i pad to Spain and its impossible to download routes to a sat nav . It’s software was not happy on iPad or iPhone . Calimoto known this there’s lots of complaints about it , they refunded my subscription .
