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YES: 'Big Generator' - is it really that bad? 

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The album Big Generator by Yes is an album that is much maligned by Yes fans, often seeing it as a disjointed and souless record. I ask in this video, is it really that bad?
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@NicholasSadlier
@NicholasSadlier Год назад
Ironically, this is the album that got me into Yes - I worked backwards (and forwards) from there and enjoyed seeing them live on three tours along the way. I really like the album, but I was coming at it as a blank canvas with absolutely zero prog bias or expectations.
@ChromeDestiny
@ChromeDestiny Год назад
I kind of had the same. Big Generator was the new Yes album when I got into the band and I heard that, 90125, Fragile, The Yes Album and Yesterdays all within in a short period of time. Big Generator and 90125 were given to me as gifts and the earlier albums were my dad's and I found them and got hooked on them.
@cbciosubs
@cbciosubs Год назад
Shoot High Aim Low, Final Eyes, and Holy Lamb are 3 of my Yes favorites from any era , all in all this was a good follow-up to 90125, some outstanding songs and vocals from Anderson. I will take 70's Yes as my favorite period but so enjoy their 80's output a good bit.
@tonyspada2744
@tonyspada2744 Год назад
Rabin only gave the band a face lift. They still wrote and played amazing Prog. I've been a Yes fan since 1970. And love Rabin's playing and writing. The TALK album is the best of the 3 they did with Trevor 🎶🎶🎸 Everything after Magnification Sucked .
@SoundWaveSea
@SoundWaveSea Год назад
I'm a lifelong Yes fan, starting with "Fragile". "Big Generator" is an AMAZING and BRILLIANT album. Hard stop. No more needs to be said.
@benrawlins4037
@benrawlins4037 5 месяцев назад
I 100% agree 👍
@bencarter6702
@bencarter6702 Год назад
I've always considered it essentially a double album companion to 90125 really. Both good examples of 80s YES.
@mcolville
@mcolville Год назад
Shoot High, Aim Low might be my favorite YES song.
@BruceColon-BSides
@BruceColon-BSides Год назад
Awesome track
@stantheman9072
@stantheman9072 Год назад
Awesome song, but it's no Tempus Fugit.
@jimjosemusic5325
@jimjosemusic5325 Год назад
I’m Running is one of their best songs of all time - very progressive. When it gets to the part “ See through science Part of a back door A door made up of doors To an endless time To a new world I was like.. dang, this is like one of the best moments of a small set of 5th Dimension songs - just outstanding “out of the box” expansion of the melodic structure - transcendent,.. has to be Jon Anderson writing that bit. And Chris’s bass is so “Chris”. Absolutely love the song !
@MrZen08
@MrZen08 Год назад
For me it's in the top 5, after Close to the Edge, the Yes Album & Relayer. "I'm Running": how it pivots from the dark vibe to the tropical jaunt is wonderfully bizarre, and when the snare is going but the kick drops out, it feels like lift-off. "Almost Like Love": may seem out of place for Yes, but not Jon Anderson in the whole of his career, and he does this one with gusto. The spiral section in "Big Generator". "Shoot High". Rabin is referred to as the pop guy, but he's really the rock guy. Yes with Rabin was one of the few places in the 80's to find moments of hard rock played by a smart band instead of hair metal/butt rock.
@alanthorne3921
@alanthorne3921 Год назад
I compare this album to Rush’s Power Windows which I love both.Very 80’s even down to their fashion sense.And this coming from myself growing up with all their previous albums.I still listen to both albums today.Tales of Topograhic Oceans or Hemispheres they are not but I remember thinking that both bands were moving forward with technology and trimming their epic songs into more concise ,accessible tunes.
@davedebelis9736
@davedebelis9736 Год назад
Extremely well said. I wouldn’t have thought about it quite like that until I read your comment. Power Windows has more complex music and lyrics but good comparison
@christopherwright8811
@christopherwright8811 Год назад
Interesting comparison but feel Power Windows is much more consistent. I very rarely go back to BG but have listened to PW hundreds of times over the past decade. The 70s Yes just knocks me out - it's just astonishing
@nickbaggins7942
@nickbaggins7942 Год назад
This was my introduction to Yes. As a child this was the background music when I was playing Lego. Shoot High is still a favourite
@PiotrPacyna
@PiotrPacyna Год назад
Definitely not my favourite Yes album, but I kinda like the strong 80's vibe, mainly thanks to the production (choice of keyboard sounds, use of reverbs). Here's a brief list of what I like on BG: Big Generator - I love these quieter sections ("Such a strange pre-occupation"), there's something ethereal and magical about them, Shoot High Aim Low - great song with many subtle details in the arrangement such as the arpeggio that joins in at 2'33''. The only thing I miss is that the song doesn't develop into a big climax towards the end, Almost Like Love - there's a charming, catchy vocal line at 3'51'' ("The way the first one out discovers") that I always liked, Love Will Find a Way - the opening riff is just awesome! I was always curious how would this track turn out if Rush guys took it to the workshop :) Final Eyes - love the tasty synth stabs at 1'51'' and so on, but my absolute favourite part is outro (6'00'') - pity it is so short, I'm Running - the slower parts (like in 0'43'' - 2'51”) are among my favourite Yes moments ever, there's some mystery and aniticpation to it and I get chills whenever I hear "I'm Running" line, but when these hectic, cartoonish parts come in I'm always like WTF ;)
@Fogeyspasm
@Fogeyspasm Год назад
I love this album. Just as I loved Rush's Power Windows when it came out. Great songs with magnificent crystal clear digital production that completely suited the arrangements. Still love that sound to this day.
@MrWheeler715
@MrWheeler715 Год назад
I have a soft spot for this album because the first time I saw Yes was on this tour. I've probably listened to it three times in the last 20 years. I'll dust it off and give it another go.
@philhughes9562
@philhughes9562 Год назад
It wasn't my first Yes show, but I saw that tour too. I still have a fond spot for that album though not nearly as much as I do for the really excellent ones. I thought it was a little bit of a let down after 90215, but overall I feel like the Trevor Rabin version of Yes is really a different band.
@serenitypeaceandcomfort3669
Big Generator is a great album. Lots of hits on it.
@rranswerman
@rranswerman Год назад
This may not be the greatest Yes album but it was released at the absolute perfect time. I was a mud logger working the midnight to noon shift at a geothermal well being drilled near the Salton Sea in California. The album came out after I was sitting the well for a couple of months or more. I bought a cassette tape of it (the first and only pre-recorded tape I ever bought since it was the only means I had to play it) right before drilling at the well was abandoned at a depth >12,000’ because it was a duster (dry - no production). They didn’t drill that night but I had been up monitoring equipment (besides logging rock cuttings we also monitored everything on the rig). About 9AM I was told to tear down the equipment and move it to another rig that was setting up nearby. I called in my relief and together we worked throughout the day tearing down the many cables and sensors from that rig and set it up at the other. We got it all mostly set up and calibrated at the new location when I began a new midnight to noon shift at the next location, which began drilling soon after. Listening to that brand new Yes tape over and over again during all those hours got me through it. Shoot High Aim Low is my favorite on that album.
@MrMonte234cristo
@MrMonte234cristo Год назад
There are a lot of "exclusivists" in the prog community who are totally full of it.Only a complete moron can say that this was a bad album, this was actually a masterpiece, a perfect combination of pop and progressive. "Love Will find A Way" has no soul ??? The follow-up to this one was Trevor Rabin's solo Can't Look Away in 1989, another masterpiece...
@danaaronmusic
@danaaronmusic Год назад
Hello, complete moron here. Duke is a perfect combination of pop and prog. Big Generator is hot garbage. It would be a disaster if Kid Rock had made it, let alone Yes. By far the worst album ever made by a classic prog band. Alan White sounds like a drum machine programmed by another drum machine. If you enjoy listening to it, I'm happy for you, but there is no need to insult people because their musical taste differs from yours.
@stevep7582
@stevep7582 7 месяцев назад
Is it really that bad? I can’t imagine anyone hearing the incredible production, songwriting, and interplay between Rabin and Squire on this album and thinking it’s a “bad” record. No, it isn’t Close to the Edge or Relayer, but that in no way diminishes the potency of the fantastic songs on this record. And Rabin’s guitar tone is god tier. I loved it when it came out and I still do to this day.
@enriquesoto6534
@enriquesoto6534 Год назад
I really like this album! In fact, you might say is my go-to Yes album, over some later uninspired releases. It is funny how music is somehow tied to almost every period of my life. This record, Love Will Find A Way, in particular, will always remind me of my cousins 15th birthday party, and her boyfriend at the time!! He was quite a character! During the party, he made sure that the whole album, and later, the aforementioned song, be played continuously throughout the celebration! Although, I appreciate it was played through a High End system, I often ask myself, how many times did we heard that song?!? Sure, it sounded astoundingly good, but it really messed my head afterwards 😂!
@classicarcadeamusementpark4242
I really enjoyed this album. I had just entered College at the time. I had only had the 90125 album prior to Big Generator, so I had nothing to judge it on. Plus I was still at the end of my teen years and more open minded to newer music than older fans who grew up with 70s Yes generally would have been. Unlike 90125, I wouldn't rank it as one of their very best albums, but that said, I enjoyed every song on it. My favorite was "I'm Running". Big Generator was the first Yes tour I attended, and I attended every tour that included Jon Anderson since except the Talk tour. At the Big Generator tour something happened. The band played "Heart of the Sunrise", and I was immediately blown away. Easily my favorite song they played, and I never heard it before. It's still my favorite Yes tune. Tony Kay & Trevor Rabin did a great job covering this song. I immediately bought the "Classic Yes" album after the show. Turns out I discover decades later, Tony Kaye actually was originally playing on the song when it was written. Maybe Rick Wakeman covered him for some of the parts?? Tony left & Rick stepped in during this period. Regardless, I really enjoyed both of their versions on this song. And generally speaking, Tony Kaye covered Rick's parts a lot better than Rick covered Tony's parts, as amazing as Wakeman is. I had largely grown up on "Prog rock meets AOR". Bands like Styx, Foreigner, Kansas, Genesis, ELO, Asia, etc. This era of Yes wasn't a far stretch from that, and largely followed in the footsteps of bands like Styx who originally started the trend of blending these styles together.
@DJMurphyChgo
@DJMurphyChgo Год назад
I remember when 90125 first came out, I only knew “OoaLH”. Then I heard “Roundabout”, which made me fall head-over-heels for Yes. I then revisited 90125 having fully immersed myself into Fragile, and I similarly fell hard for 90125. This had to have been in 8th grade for me. I then bought Yessongs (both the double-cassette and the VHS), 9012Live (rented the VHS 9012Live and bought the 9012Live The Solos on cassette). I had a copy of The Yes Album. So by the time Big Generator came out, I was already a big fan. I bought BG on the day it came out, already having loved the first single, “Love Will Find A Way”. And… I was bummed. I guess having accustomed myself to the great albums preceding it, I felt let down that certain songs on BG just didn’t grab me by the throat the same way that the songs on 90125 were able to. It’s as if they hadn’t left the songs in the oven long enough; if 90125 was (and to me, still is) a 10/10, BG rates only 6.5/10 (7/10 on the days I’m feeling generous). And what made it so much more frustrating is that there seemed to be such potential for greatness within the songs that are there, but then the “great moments” sort of got squandered by an inability to create a fully great song top-to-bottom. I still love “Love Will Find A Way” (although I wish its sound weren’t so damn anemic); I love parts of “Final Eyes”. I get bored easily by “Rhythm of Love” and “Big Generator”, I wish there was more meat on the bones of “Shoot High, Aim Low”, “I’m Running”, and “Almost Like Love”. And I cringe at the hippy-dippy new-agey sentiment of “Holy Lamb”. (And I consider myself philosophically to be a hippie!) Bottom line: with BG, it’s just a case of so much potential but not enough cohesion, not enough coalescence.
@antfirmin
@antfirmin Год назад
2:10 I was stroking my beard when you said that, thinking "this album is bloody brilliant"
@LanceB1960
@LanceB1960 Год назад
If "90125" and "Big Generator" had used the band name Cinema as the musicians wanted instead being forced by the record company to put them out under the Yes moniker, these albums would have been more readily accepted critically.
@martz4476
@martz4476 Год назад
Stopped by a thrift store today and grabbed this album on vinyl not sure what to expect, never heard it before. Almost left it there. Than...this video! On the same day! The universe really wanted me to listen to BG this week I guess
@RootsandTendrils
@RootsandTendrils Год назад
No Big Generator is an entertaining, energetic, intriguing, and Holy album. I have always enjoyed it. Jon is an inspired artist and he seldom misses his mark. I saw Jon perform Holy Lamb on stage, it was sacred and powerful; and the entire concert from the tour was very well done and thrilling. I think it was quite beautiful how Trevor Rabin and Jon worked together on this and the preceding album, I think their partnership reached it height on "Talk".
@bennyscomin
@bennyscomin Год назад
Funniest review I've ever seen was for the "Talk" album......only two words, it read, "Shut up."
@bonecanoe86
@bonecanoe86 Год назад
A lot of the "Boomer Era" bands made really strange and weak post-peak albums in the mid-80s through the early 90s that sound incredibly dated and not really like themselves. (Think CSN&Y's "American Dream" or any of the Moody Blues' 80s albums or god forbid late-stage Beach Boys) But out of these "late stage boomer" albums Big Generator is one of the ones I like the most. Yes it is extremely dated. But the sound and the songs just work for me. It will never reach the heights of their 70s material or even 90125, but it's still a solidly enjoyable album I will put on from time to time. Still a fondue fountain of cheese, but I love it.
@antfirmin
@antfirmin Год назад
8:33 'Open Your Eyes' a prog masterpiece? My jaw hit the floor... and it is still there!
@classicalbum
@classicalbum Год назад
Yes, I was joking
@MoreEqualAnimal
@MoreEqualAnimal Год назад
More like Close Your Ears.
@christopherstumbers5906
@christopherstumbers5906 Год назад
This brings me right back to cruising around with my Mom in her 87 Thunderbird, hair blown way out, blasting Love will Find a Way. Good stuff!
@keithplant2860
@keithplant2860 Год назад
While this is not Yes at there best, there is much to enjoy.
@rickypayne9192
@rickypayne9192 Год назад
I think this was the best album put out that year
@kayfimt7769
@kayfimt7769 Год назад
No, I think this one is alright. The real stinker is the Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe album. That’s a shocker.
@emceesmith6665
@emceesmith6665 Год назад
These albums were originally supposed to be for a new pop rock group outside of the prog genre. They're only called Yes for commercial recognizability. As a fan of both deep 70s prog and cheesy 80s pop, 90125 and Big Generator can hold their own in the broader Yes discography, even if it doesn't hold a candle to pretty much everything done with Bruford.
@matthewbarnes375
@matthewbarnes375 Год назад
I enjoy both 80s era Yes albums for what they are, but it's really a different band as compared to 70s era Yes (by that I mean same musicians but different intentions with the music). I understand they resurrected the "Yes" moniker for marketing reasons after regrouping for the 90125 sessions, but wonder in retrospect if it would have been wiser to stay with their original name "Cinema".
@stantheman9072
@stantheman9072 Год назад
Your use of the word “synthetic” to describe this effort reminds of the first thing I thought when I heard it. It’s a 6 on my 10 scale. The interesting tracks outnumber the lesser ones, but not by enough. Talk was a much more consistent and satisfying work. That later album, to me, was the highlight of Rabin’s contributions to the band.
@anscules
@anscules Год назад
I also like Talk. It’s rare that anyone mentions that one.
@kevdmiller
@kevdmiller Год назад
I had no idea that it was despised, though I did have the perception that it was very '80's (in all the bad ways), didn't remember it all that fondly and hadn't listened to it in many years. Then about a year ago put it on for the heck of it and honestly I really dug it. For a few weeks I was replaying it pretty frequently. It isn't their best but I think it's quite good!
@richarddixon7890
@richarddixon7890 Год назад
Not a bad album. Does not deserve the beating. Yes, 90 is much better…”Changes” a masterpiece
@Starman2112ofKings
@Starman2112ofKings Год назад
90125 was pretty good tho it was a “different” Yes, but Big Generator was where I got off the Yes train.
@KilroyWasHere83
@KilroyWasHere83 Год назад
Shoot High Aim Low, Final Eyes, and I'm Running are all fantastic songs, and i even like Love Will Find A Way. The rest of the album I can do without
@miccarbo7911
@miccarbo7911 Год назад
Final Eyes and I'm Running are so underrated!
@KOSMICKEN09
@KOSMICKEN09 Год назад
Final Eyes is incredible
@andrewmilesbroughton8222
@andrewmilesbroughton8222 Год назад
90125 is my most played CD ever after Floyd's 'dark Side.." this is the son of...album and that's Ok by me, there's a good 5 top class songs here. Prog/pop heaven really. Like your show a lot.
@julio_scissors
@julio_scissors Год назад
Wore the grooves off of this album. Great tour as well.
@peterthompson8014
@peterthompson8014 Год назад
I've been a YES fan since childhood but wasn't old enough to see them in concert until this tour. It was my first YES concert.
@Harromuso
@Harromuso Год назад
I think this should be looked at as an album of songs rather than a Yes album. I quite enjoyed it and still do. Shoot High, I'm Running are great tunes and I think the melody in Holy Lamb is a beautiful thing. But it's definitely not a prog album
@dougmcgee3059
@dougmcgee3059 Год назад
Thanks for another good episode. All the previous studio albums were remastered and released with bonus tracks but not this one. I think that says something. The dry burn of ‘Open Your Eyes’ was also a nice touch.
@georgemathie8123
@georgemathie8123 Год назад
I'm an 80s kid and I was a tender age of 9 years old as young as I might have been at the time my tastes were ever evolving so my mom bought my first yes cassette in January 1988 and big generator was my first ever yes album I ever owned I got it for the big hit love Will find a way however shoot high aim low and I'm running got me into lifelong love for Yes
@chetthebee1322
@chetthebee1322 Год назад
I loved 90125, I loved Drama, I'm one of the few that even loved Tormato but I did not like Union and I really did not like Big Generator. I think it had more to do with the album's production than maybe the music.
@nintendo64isking
@nintendo64isking Год назад
i love big generator 9/10 for me it grows in my estimation over time actually, love what they came up with. A nice mix of longer tracks and shorter hits
@daveycretin664
@daveycretin664 Год назад
No, it’s not that bad, it’s just not a great Yes album. 90125 is probably my 7th favorite Yes record, and it was the first tour l saw live. Big Generator is a lesser version of 90125, l feel the songs are better on the latter platter. “Final Eyes,” “Shoot High… “ and “Love Will Find A Way” are my three favorite tracks from BG. The song l never liked is “Almost Like Love,” those cheesy keyboard sounding horns drive me bonkos! Personally, l enjoy the ABWH CD and Trevor Rabin’s solo album Can’t Look Away better than Big Generator. Cheers from Noo Yawk, ova heyah! ~8^ )
@scottross2762
@scottross2762 Год назад
Wow. I'm impressed by the love this album is getting here from the comments. Nothing wrong with that. I like it a listen once in a while. And I mostly agree with the great review. To me it was a band adapting with their new direction, trying to build on 90125, making money in an MTV world. To be fresh, creative. Relevant (in, again, that MTV kind of way). You must say that despite the prevailing trends nobody else really sounded like that particular group of guys at the time. I enjoy a lot of those first two Rabin albums. I must point out that I saw them many times live in that 5 or so year period from 90125 to Talk, including the Onion Tour, and I really always enjoyed Trevor putting his signature very well on the Steve Howe pieces. Steve Howes welcomed back to YES would come around again down the road some years. Yet..little did we know everything change must and that Open Your Eyes was yet be spawned. They had some good work on the later albums when Wakeman came back, maybe even Sherwood sometimes.I admit I stopped listening when the other singers replaced Jon. Cheers.
@caramanico1
@caramanico1 Год назад
OK album for Yes, excellent for anybody else. After this, I find Magnification their best by far.
@sherwyngreen
@sherwyngreen Год назад
I also like BG a lot. It hangs together as an "album" more than 90125. More focussed or perhaps controlled? Andersons' songs sound more confident and Trevor Rabin doesn't sound as though he's singing on a different record. Dig the string quartet (?) music about 3/4 of the way through, providing an exposition. Holy Lamb really comes to life in live performance, by the way.
@david-vp4ku
@david-vp4ku Год назад
I agree but I m not sure that it's a string quartet.
@sherwyngreen
@sherwyngreen Год назад
@@david-vp4ku I remember on first listening I felt puzzled as well as perhaps disappointed by BG. The album seemed to jut from one reflected genre to another but I did some research and found that the term Big Generator actually refers to music generally as a powerful force which shouldn't be turned off in favour of a baseball commentary or a comedy show (for examples). So my answer is, of course, it's not bad at all. I'm still a fan of it and don't care what the prog nerds say(much).
@ianstewart5598
@ianstewart5598 Год назад
can we have a Deep Purple worst as well then :) "The House Of Blue Light" Oh dear? Then again I was a big fan of Hughes/Coverdale era Purple, so Gillan coming back, was a bit of a game-changer for me.
@Luukupuuk
@Luukupuuk Год назад
Been a Yes-fan from the beginning. Was more disappointed with Drama (what a befitting name) . Really liked this one and 90125
@michaelfavreau7617
@michaelfavreau7617 Год назад
I love this Yes album and play it often. I`m growing tired of the ytube nation putting it down. It is not the best Yes but to ask a band to repeat the 70`s over and over is ridiculous. I think its a great follow up to 90125. Anyone who saw Anderson Rabin Wakeman back in 2016/17 know what I`m talking about.
@ScottAllenTVH
@ScottAllenTVH 10 месяцев назад
I love this album. All the old fans of all the old prog rockers were disappointed by the 80s versions of the bands, which is their loss. Trevor Rabin brought something really new and interesting to the band, and while the 80s pop influences are apparent, the whole album, and the title track in particular, is some of the most sonically interesting music of the whole decade.
@stevetobin7495
@stevetobin7495 Год назад
I remember playing this to death back in the late 80,s ...some beautiful songs here - I also thought union was strangely undervalued too
@SOALNightLive
@SOALNightLive Год назад
I think it has more ambition musically than 90125 did. Tracks like Shoot High, Final Eyes and I'm Running take it places 90125 didn't go. There's a bit more substance on those mildly epic tunes. This was the first time this lineup had to deliver a "Yes" album and I thnk it covers more ground musically than it's predecessor. Production is not as good, but it was 1987, and sounds it. The vinyl version I have sounds best. It's really bright sounding on CD. I like it about as much as the other albums they did with Rabin.
@jamesscully529
@jamesscully529 Год назад
They lost me here and I was a diehard Yes fan. Not to diss any other band but they sounded like an LA hair band. I grew up on the 70s version of the band, the Fragile/Close to the Edge band with Anderson, Squire, Howe, Wakeman and Bruford. Took me a little time to warm up to Alan White, who was more four on the floor while Bruford was more top end of the kit. But Big Generator lost me and I didn't even go see them on that tour. I put it in with Buggles version of 1980.
@davidmacdonald1695
@davidmacdonald1695 4 месяца назад
Shoot High Aim Low and I’m Running are extremely good tracks. Big Generator also worth a listen.
@asmcelhinney
@asmcelhinney Год назад
Big Generator is a guilty pleasure of mine. It was always of interest from the bass guitar point of view, featuring Chris on 5 string bass, often tuned to a low A, many riffs featuring on the Starlicks video he was in that watched over and over. Very little is written or said of this album especially in comparison to the rest of the canon, even the lacklustre Tormato's story is better documented. Odd considering this took nearly 3 years to coalesce. There are hints of too much partying going on, that could have exacerbated the creativity. The multiple recording locations and producers suggest an unfinished product being beaten into submission and released hastily. I wouldn't say any of the songs are bad, but they lack any real lustre, any passion. In comparison, the hated Union has a far more complete sound with the ABWH2 material feeling like there was a driving force behind it (Anderson and later Elias). I made a CD once with the Rabin penned songs from Union mixed in with BG, it was a far more satisfying collection. The tour was short also, with many songs being dropped quickly - I feel this was more a symptom of the preparedness of the band and lack of familiarity with their recent album of abandoned arguments than a comment on BGs overall quality. A missed opportunity.
@andreasghb8074
@andreasghb8074 Год назад
I gave up on Yes with this album. Still love everything up to and including Going for the One.
@dbaytug
@dbaytug Год назад
Note to self: this is not a "prog" record any more than Drama and 90125. It's rock driven new wave. It's annoying that Yes fans can't see past prog!
@JohnnyRecently
@JohnnyRecently Год назад
I adore The Big Generator. Always have. Now their visual look in 87 was a little lame, but the album is gorgeous.
@Anybloke
@Anybloke Год назад
BG is just 90125 shandy. I haven't bought a Yes LP since. Similarly, I haven't bought a Genesis LP after Duke.
@johnthresher259
@johnthresher259 Год назад
Without the Trevor Rabin period Yes might have ceased to exist (note the "might"). If XYZ had worked out for Squire and White, Yes certainly would have been finished I think. Big Generator is a decent album although it does smack of being a hurried follow up demanded by the Record company to the previous hit album. Personally I've no time for the nay-sayers "...it's not the same without Jon Rick Pete Tony Hugh Hugh Barney McGrew Cuthbert Dibble and Grub etc yaddah yaddah. Along with MrWheeler715 the first time I got to see Yes was on the 90125 tour (having been a fan since Fragile/Close To the Edge). I saw ABWH on tour and Onion in the round at Wembly, the "classic" line up at the Hammersmith Apollo (2003?) and the the Jon Davison fronted Yes including the late great Chris Squire at the Cliffs Pavilion Westcliff-on-Sea (you heard it right!). Thoroughly enjoyed them all!
@lemming9984
@lemming9984 Год назад
Yes, it is all that bad! I'd put it up there with Genesis' 'Duke' and Gentle Giant's 'Giant For A Day'.
@rameybutler6555
@rameybutler6555 Год назад
i love big generator is great.yes could come out today and say theyre working on a ganster rap album, and i would buy it just to hear theyre spin on the genre.
@LouiePlaysDrums
@LouiePlaysDrums Год назад
Although I had heard Rhythm Of Love and Love Will Find A Way back when they were released as singles, I actually did not hear the entire Big Generator album until 2016 (almost 30 years later). I was actually quite surprised by how good it was, in my opinion. It's not the greatest Yes album ever made but I don't think it's bad either. I like it.
@BruceColon-BSides
@BruceColon-BSides Год назад
I agree that Rabin’s voice is a welcome additional texture during this era. I respect his overall talent.
@phillipanderson7398
@phillipanderson7398 Год назад
No thoughts on his guitar textures ?
@BruceColon-BSides
@BruceColon-BSides Год назад
@@phillipanderson7398 Really liked his playing as well. Much like his production touches, it really suited the era.
@garyhitchcock3828
@garyhitchcock3828 Год назад
Love will find a Way's a fab song 🎵 Trevor Rabin great guitarist 🎸 vocalist & writer. RIP Chris Squire & Alan White really great musicians.
@dannyjoebrown4611
@dannyjoebrown4611 Год назад
When a prog band sets their sights on making pop songs, look out. Great shit! I way prefer this era of the band to the earlier stuff. I'm the same way with Genesis. I can't huff enough glue to get into those earlier albums.
@steveouk90126
@steveouk90126 Год назад
In 1991 Steve Howe quipped that 70s Yes music emphasised melody while 80s emphasised rhythm. As a bass player I'm okay with that. BG is one of my favorite Yes records because it _was_ a departure from the melodic, airy-fairy prior works and demonstrated that Yes was more than static, one-picture musical ideas. Previous records could be flighty and a bit airheaded while BG was driven, hard and in a way shiny-metallic by contrast. It was to previous Yes albums, as Bill Bruford described leaving Yes for KC, a "cold shower" compared to previous works. Of course right afterward came ABWH which tried to combine the two (and I thought, successfully) with more melodic than rhythmic.
@kevinbutler3665
@kevinbutler3665 Год назад
I think Love Will Find A Way is a bit sickly sweet pop rock but other than that i really like this album, for me i'd sit this album equal to 90125, not much between them for me.
@figgybass
@figgybass Год назад
I like the album very much. Of course it's very different from the old stuff. It's still good!!
@phillipanderson7398
@phillipanderson7398 Год назад
I know Rick Wakeman hated Union, but what did he say what he thought of think of Big Generator and Beverly Hills 90125 ?
@classicalbum
@classicalbum Год назад
I know he liked 90125
@ustuppy
@ustuppy Год назад
This album brought interest from a younger generation. A good thing.
@richard127gm
@richard127gm Год назад
Personally, I really like the album. Bands should be allowed to do something a bit different after 20 years of doing the same thing. It's no Close To The Edge, but is till a very enjoyable listen. IMHO.
@Russell_G
@Russell_G Год назад
As I stroke my build and mourn my giving up smoking in 1991, I decide, yes, yes it is a stinker of an album!!
@WheelsWithinCosmicWheels
@WheelsWithinCosmicWheels Год назад
I'd love to hear your thoughts about Threshold's debut record "Wounded Land. And the Whitespade record that Midnight just dropped, a wonderful Motörhead tribute.
@anscules
@anscules Год назад
This is a flawed album, but I love it. I could do without the title track and “Almost Like Love” - it would be perfect, if really short. Side 2 is flawless (yes! I said it!) and “Shoot” is an all-timer.
@greghaines6488
@greghaines6488 26 дней назад
Exactly right! Those are the two worst songs. Otherwise, it is a really good album. So what if it isn’t proggy enough for some, or not as good as 70’s YES. (After all, NOTHING is as good as 70’s YES! ) I still enjoy the rest of this album very much. I rate it fairly close to 90125. Why in the world did they ever stop using Roger Dean covers?
@pampaliquids4206
@pampaliquids4206 6 месяцев назад
Hi, I`m Ramon from Argentina. I think that if you listen to Genesis in the Gabriel era or in Trick of the tail album, it's different to Jesus he knows me or Abacab. I knew Yes with the album 90125 and that's why I investigate their other works, Big Generator is like an evolution of the band, with a lot of influence from Ravin, but it seems like a beautiful album to me. When you go to a Yes show you can enjoy both worlds, the new and the classic, this is a beautiful combination. Regards!
@ayeatropoulos1
@ayeatropoulos1 11 месяцев назад
I'm not a huge fan of this album either, but I do love "I'm Running".
@garrettchristensen8074
@garrettchristensen8074 Год назад
Shoot High Aim Low is one of my favorite songs ever.
@classicalbum
@classicalbum Год назад
Best advice my dad ever gave me
@ambientideas1
@ambientideas1 Год назад
This is a great album for non-Yes fans of banal pop-rock.
@michaeldy3157
@michaeldy3157 Год назад
No
@paulcadby6925
@paulcadby6925 Год назад
I actually thoroughly enjoy BG from start to finish just as l do 90... Far from a progressive masterpiece of earlier work but a great MTV era effort.
@ArchieDuke.
@ArchieDuke. Год назад
Good on them for venturing forward. As much as I love Close to The Edge, did we really expect they would keep repeating that forever? It's why I love Genesis, they kept changing things.
@LeeHardingakaFirmament
@LeeHardingakaFirmament Год назад
Obviously it’s a different beast from the prog greats like CTTE or Relayer but, make no mistake, without Rabin’s input - especially with 90125 and this album - Yes would have ground to a halt completely in 1980. Is this a “great” record? No. But it’s a pretty good prog pop crossover release nonetheless - and certain tracks are genuinely fantastic. It will always play “second fiddle” to 90125 but, compared to something like Union or the lamentable Heaven & Earth, it shouldn’t be dismissed so lightly.
@dhfenske
@dhfenske Год назад
I believe that Chris and Alan would have found some other musicians to work with if they hadn't chosen to work with the Trevors. They would have made some different great music I'll bet. Trevor Rabin was a great choice of theirs, though. And I think that indicates that Chris knew how to choose good musicians to work with and, fortunately for us, good musicians with INTERESTING creative ideas. R.I.P. Chris and Alan.
@biggiefries4111
@biggiefries4111 Год назад
Love BIG Generator.... What a great album from my youth...." I'm Running " is incredible...
@paulcassidy8130
@paulcassidy8130 Год назад
As with Hot Space, your Is It Really That Bad review has sent me back to listen to this album for the first time probably since 1987. And as with Hot Space I've had again to answer No, it's not that bad. Maybe the passing of the decades makes me listen afresh, discarding the prejudices of the time. Or maybe I'm just getting old and soft in the head. I agree that it's clearly an attempt to cash in on 90125 by offering more in the same vein and it definitely comes off second best. But I found much to enjoy and will be giving it another listen shortly. However, I can't see me changing my mind about Onion, whose many layers of awfulness surely cannot be redeemed by time.
@salsalzman2325
@salsalzman2325 Год назад
Never was able to listen to it in one go, I remember buying the vinyl on day one, putting it on, and just turning it off after 3 songs. It was the beginning of the end, took until The Ladder to get back to form, and then just horrible albums until Keys.
@chrispur6883
@chrispur6883 Год назад
I would agree with Meinart Hansen; not a bad album... i think "Heaven & Earth" is the worst album by yes. Some good songs on Big Generator... "Rhythm Of Love"; Shoot High Aim Low" and "Final Eyes" i really like. But i would say that the two previous albums "90125" and "Drama" are far better... both are my favourites und most listened albums. Greetings from germany... bye and take care.
@michaeldy3157
@michaeldy3157 Год назад
I like this one alot but it is not great like 90125. Loved all yes releases though
@MalkyMcMillan
@MalkyMcMillan Год назад
I play this album far more than 90125. A fine sonic experience which is varied and interesting.
@markcorbett7402
@markcorbett7402 Год назад
I think the answer to this question largely depends on when you were born. Most people who got into Yes in the 1970s aren’t going to like it much. I got into Yes in the late 80s and really like it, especially Shoot high aim low, Rhythm of love & I’m running. This album is also let down by it’s pretty awful title track and album cover (which aren’t going to help entice those older fans).
@bertbecker7532
@bertbecker7532 Год назад
Almost Like Love gets my vote as worst concert opener by any Yes lineup. But overall what killed this album was the interminable wait from 90125. Yes was on a roll but per their history failed to capitalize on it, missing out on LiveAid and better production values on this album. Oh well, it was the 80s after all on they were not kind to many prog acts. The “hear this voice” end of I’m Running is great, one of the best moments from this lineup, wish they played it live when I saw this tour.
@harrynewiss4630
@harrynewiss4630 Год назад
I for one am thrilled one of my favourite bands dodged Live Aid
@garrettredd2541
@garrettredd2541 Год назад
I actually like this album quite a bit. In terms of the 80's output i prefer it to 90125
@jefftincher6997
@jefftincher6997 Год назад
Big G came at a time when shorter songs were popular. I'm a fan of epic songs, but this album has some really great songs. Shoot High, Aim Low is still one of my favorite Yes songs. This LP is a perfect example of A-Side/B-Side construction. Nevertheless, this LP is a masterpiece of 80s music from a band that designed prog rock. But, I'm also a fan of Yes's "Talk" LP as well. I'm not sure why you keep comparing this LP to 90125. They are 2 different music ideas.
@DJMurphyChgo
@DJMurphyChgo Год назад
The reason why it’s appropriate to compare BG to 90125 is that a) it’s the next album Yes released after 90125, and b) it wouldn’t be fair to compare it to any other Yes album, seeing as how Yes mk I and YesWest really ought to be considered two separate bands with some members in common. Here’s how I rank the YesWest albums (save Union): 1) 90125 2) Talk (I still love this album!), and then 3) Big Generator As far as the YesWest songs on Union go, I’d slot three of them as the equal to the great Talk album. Except “The More We Live (Let Go)”, which falls equal to the Big Generator album (I.e., close but no banana).
@adamlosurdo2114
@adamlosurdo2114 Год назад
I think this is a fine album and LWFAW is a fantastic pop song.
@vallaindigital
@vallaindigital Год назад
I can still listen to some tracks on this album from time to time, my favorite being "Shoot High Aim Low". But I do think it is the worst of the "Rabin-era" albums. And on top of that, the sound quality of Big Generator is aweful. It lacks lower frequencies quite a bit. I even like Union better, which is an album often put as the absolute worste of theirs.
@NmDPlm31
@NmDPlm31 Год назад
No, it’s not really that bad. Does it rate as a great Yes album? Well, no. But this is not a horrible outing, and has some strong pieces, to be sure. Shoot High Aim Low is the big standout, I think. Love that tune. I think a lot of the problems for this album find their genesis with the label and with Horn. The label was demanding another Owner of a Lonely Heart, thus you have an album geared toward trying to mimic the success of 90125. But you also have Horn, who clashed with Anderson during the writing of the album. Anderson has famously said he wanted to craft more adventurous songs and push the musicality of the band to capitalize on the new influx of fans, but Horn shut him down and reportedly isolated him from involvement until the songs were near completion. So it would come as no surprise that Anderson left after the tour for this album and put together ABWH. Despite its troubled birth, I think it does stand fairly well, though it doesn’t have the shine of a quality classic Yes outing. I still enjoy it.
@justinsavagemusic
@justinsavagemusic Год назад
Ive never heard any one say this album was bad. not once since it came out, and was listened to often by anyone i knew that had it. I don't even get the basis of making a video defending an album that had hits, and was loved at the time and still is by fans of the band. what's next? "was let it be really a dud?" or how about "Led Zeppelin, no one liked em"
@MetalMan73100
@MetalMan73100 Год назад
My first Yes album was Union, bought right after its release in 1991. Big Generator I bought shortly afterwards, from a bargain bin for very little, perhaps also because it was on a cassette, though later replaced by a CD. Terrific abum, in my opinion. I still enjoy it now, especially Shoot High, Aim Low. Still, what an eyesore that album cover is, eh?
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