This is the perfect product for me, I’ll definitely have to get one, I want a true anamorphic look but with my current lens system and this is definitely wayyyy cheaper than getting all the focal lengths I want separately
At 15:17 you mention lack of autofocus. You could get one of the lidar based autofocus adapters on the market now. Or there are lens adapters that can autofocus manual lenses. I know they have ones that mount to Nikon Z and Sony E, but I'm not sure about Canon RF cameras.
Big fan of the Aivascope as well. The waterfall bokeh you mentioned has more to do with your taking lens than the Aivascope. The Aivascope contributes its own characteristics like slight lens distortion, oval bokeh and flaring but the waterfall bokeh is more of a taking lens attribute. Compare using a Biotar, Leica R or Helios 44-2 as a taking lens to modern glass by Sigma as a taking lens and you will see how different the look is and how much the optics of the taking lens contribute to the rendering of the out of focus areas. I own the Aivascope and the Moment and enjoy them both. I completely disagree with your assessment of the moment which I sort of purchased on a whim but have been really surprised at just how good it is for the money $1100 not $800 as indicated in your video ). After years of DIY anamorphics - went through my phases with the cinelux, B and H’s, SLR magics, Sankors, finally the Aivascope which I do agree with you is the best anamorphic front for me the best solution ended up being the the Vazens for my Komodo. I have the Vazen RF 65mm with amber flares and the RF 28mm also with Amber flares and they compare very favorably to the Atlas Orion’s I have rented in the past. They are sharp, flare nicely and have the look. I also don’t have to switch the front, realign and do all the gymnastics on the job when I need to do a lens switch. 28mm and 65mm seem to do the job for almost any shot I need to do as long as I’m willing to move setups as needed. For about $7k your getting a set of lenses that in the long run are not all that much more than the cost of the Aivascope and good taking lenses ( actually less than the Aivascope combined with my Leica R’s ) and it’s much more convenient to shoot with. Bonus the stretch is closer to 2x as well. The Vazens have been so good that I will probably sell my anamorphic DIY and front collection soon. Anyway I digress - my 2c’s
Very insightful! There are a couple points that I strongly disagree with here but nonetheless, thanks for your input! The anamorphic market is wild nowadays!
I just contributed to the Laowa 1.33x anamorphic adapter on their Indegogo and to my eye it’s looking like a “poor man’s Aivascope” Pretty blown away by the quality given it’s price point. Obviously not as big of a squeeze factor, but yielding a 2:35:1 without any extra steps will be a nice bonus
I have to disagree with you regarding the "moment 1.33x Anamorphic Adapter" looking like a cheap $800 lens. I use the "moment 1.33x Anamorphic Adapter" with my contax zeiss lens, and it looks really good (like a proper anamorphic lens)
I’d love to try it out! Most of the footage I’ve seen looks sub par to me. Not saying it’s bad! Just you get what you pay for imo. I could be wrong though!
One more suscriber. One question Anthony, there is not problem with using FF lenses in a FF camera (like a Sigma Art in a Sony A7SIII) with the Aivascope? Thanks!
I gotta call B.S. on the Moment critique... and it's like $1,200, not $800. But I pair the Moment with my Super-Takumars and I get footage that looks at least just as good as the Aivascope. Sure it doesn't have as much stretch, and the bokeh isn't quite as oval, but it's amazing. It has the texture in the flares, and they're neutral which is a plus. It's built really solid, it's easy to use, and I know I could tell someone I shot something with the Aivascope and they would believe me as long as all the flares were warm. I love it. To each their own, but it punches WAY above budget anamorphic lenses.
Thanks for thr video. What is thr longest focal lengh that you have tried it with? Many variable diopers seem to be optimized for 50mm and start degrading after 80-100mm.. what is your experience with the avaioscope?
Thanks for your insights! Can i ask two questions? I also have a Komodo with Contax Zeiss primes. What's the widest taking lens that will work for 2.39 delivery from the Komodo? How much light do you lose through the adaptor? Thanks for your help!
So I’m going down the rabbit hole searching for the best option for anamorphic look and it seems that adapters are the closest thing to it, especially this brand. So now I’m searching this brand and would like to pull the trigger on it. But I can’t help to notice that every video review I see, every one is using an old vintage lense weather is contax zeiss, leica r lenses or some other old vintage lense. Why? Can it not fit a normal prime lense or for instance in my case a 7Artisan lense? I would hate to buy this and then needing to buy more lenses to work with it, as it will defeat the purpose of it. I hope this reaches you 😊
I did not even know this thing existed lol this is why we are all gathering around you, looking over your shoulder, now that you have a decent collection of anamorphics you have used, what would you use with the s5ii if you had to only buy one or two anamorphics for a short films/client work?
oh please do more content on those Remus lenses, like detailed ones, setting and all, a lot of people can afford that set, the only bad thing is you would have to write a script and get a teleprompter loool. its totally worth it. thanks again.
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Please, I do not want to mount the adapter directly to my lens. My question is: WHERE CAN I BUY EXACTLY THE MOUNT YOU DISPLAYED IN YOUR VIDEO???
Thanks for the clarification. I did not see that attachment clamp for the adapter on their website. That got me a bit confused earlier. Thanks for your time@@AnthonyRodriguezz
Great video! Considered this option for a while coming from an Isco projector and SLRmagic rangefinder which was soft, characterless and heavy. The only thing that puts me off going down the adapter route again is the limited wide focal lengths you can use with it on Full Frame. I have seen a video with the Aivascope paired with a 40mm lens and the barrel distortion was crazy, what's the widest you've been able to use with the Aivascope?
I tried the 40mm, but it barely covers it. (There is a decrease in the amount of light at the periphery) I don't think it will be easy to use a wider lens than this. 40mm was my Maginot line.
I agree , the aivascope is amazing. however, shooting with lenses like sirui or great joy, what you give up in character you gain in convenience and peace of mind that ALL your footage is going to be aligned properly when you sit down and edit.
@@AnthonyRodriguezz yes, compared to the Frankenstein setups it’s hassle-free. I had the aivascope 1.5x and loved the look but I would constantly be asking my talent to shine a light after every scene to make sure my alignment was right. The cons you mentioned on your video were too worrisome for me to hold on to it but I’m glad it’s working out for your workflow. Great video 👍🏼
You don´t need anamorhic at all to have a "cinematic" look :) One of my favorite cinematographers Roger Deakins hated Anamorphics and prefers to shoot Spherical on Coocke Optics and just crop top and bottom to get the wide aspect. Cinematic is hightlight roll-off composition grading and sound. Check online databases to see what movies where shot on Spherical... you will be surprised because of the constant anamorphic talk. I tested lots of the budget lenses and adapters and got rid of them. But that is my personal oppinion. My point is just that you dont need anamorhic to shoot epic ;)
I agree with ya! I also never stated that anamorphic footage is the only thing that makes an image cinematic 😏 it’s just the look I was chasing and could never put my finger on it!
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Thanks Mate, I'm in OZ so a lot of bright light in my filming :)) Planning on shooting an Indie Movie for my band and have been hunting 'that' look... so thanks again. Thinking of purchasing a Sigma FP and using one of these adapters... what body are you using, cheers Chief :))
This is so good, thank you! Very thorough. I saw you're using the S5II. Are you able to take advantage of the IBIS in that camera (which I heard is pretty dope), when using the Aiva??
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Thanks! Doesn't the S5II have open gate also? I'm also still not sure what the big deal is of open gate if you're going to crop to a 2.39:1 style format anyway?
@@PeteMajarich the s5ii is the only one with open gate. More vertical resolution is crucial for anamorphic footage. For a lot of squeeze factors you won’t need to crop in at all and you end up with a wider FOV
Not sure about footage of the event, I got really excited but then felt like it didn't deliver, the solo bits looked better but not sure about the image quality.
@@AnthonyRodriguezz it seem particularly anamorphic in terms of the anamorphic characteristics. Maybe the cuts were fast so I couldn’t take it in on the event but the solo people shot did seem better. I have a 1.5 adapter with and anamorphic 1.33 and that seemed give more of an impact. I could be wrong of course cos I don’t have what you have to test. With way I’m glad see more adapters on the market.
You cannot use AF with any adapter or any anamorphic lens currently and I don’t think you can even use it with the primes because they are focus by wire and it’d be tricky to set it to infinity focus, which is what you need to do with anamorphic adapter. The focus relies on the adapters focus ring
I have the Great Joy 1.35x anamorphic adapter, using it right now with Helios taking lenses on a short film and it hits all the points you mentioned, but damn, it's really heavy. Needs rod support. And it's only around $700!
@@aram.v it's currently in production, so not out for awhile. But I did shoot lens tests before filming, they're uploaded on my other channel here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tJKNPAKVNw4.html
I haven’t tried it, but I did consider it! It was heavier and the squeeze factor didn’t play too well on 16x9 sensors. So I decided to go with the 1.5x instead. I’m not a fan of cropping in a ton just to get a desired aspect ratio. Also, the 1.5x had plenty of character for me!
The Aivascope does make a lot of sense. For the cost of good anamorphic, it makes sense. As much as I’d like to play around with anamorphic, at the moment, something cheaper like a Sirui lense makes sense for me. But I could see myself “graduating” to the Aivascope after some time. Definitely a suggestion I haven’t heard before. Nice video!
It can! I don’t recommend it though. Now you have a really front heavy setup for no real reason. Plus the front element is really wide which can cause vignetting. There’s just no real benefit
@@AnthonyRodriguezz 🤷♂️ i think you said the scope was loosing alignment. If you attached the scope to a lens support instead of screwing it on a lens it is much more stable. The torque of the focus gear will almost always cause the threads to turn on a lens, but if you’re attached to the rod this doesn’t happen and it’s also much faster to change lenses. I’d say without the rods this is a hobby filter. When you add the lens support it becomes a professional tool. I’ve used it to great effects on very demanding film sets with the support. Before the support system, i filmed a music video and found the scope was always suffering from micro misalignments. Hope that helps. 🤷♂️. good video review. Cheers 🍻
About a year and a half ago but before I knew about them but the only knowledge I had was the flares and aspect ratio and I was pleasantly surprised that it’s much more than that!
I’m assuming “spagollis” means money! 😂 Yeah it might not be worth it for some but for those wanting multiple anamorphic focal lengths and are chasing the “look” it’s a gem 🥹
I’d love to see some examples. Everything I’ve seen from the moment adapter I’ve not enjoyed as much as the aiva. Also, do you have the newer version of the aiva?
Nah, dude. 1.5x does NOT look like 2x squeeze…it’s better than 1.33x and if you must have FF than yeah it’s a good intermediate solution. (not what the films you love were shot with /S35/.)
@@mgrgin While there isn’t a “better” in most cases the characteristics of 2x squeeze are an objective target. FF is pretty incompatible with 2x Anamorphic in terms of the ribbon of video you get at the end of the process. 1.5x is a FF compromise if you’re looking for the 2x squeeze look.
For sure man! It’s all about coverage and what focal length you’re using! Roughly 28mm for s35 depending on the lens and 40mm on full frame. It all depends on the front element size and the distance between the glass and the actually adapter. For example some 50mm lenses have a deep recessed front glass element
