The GREAT ANAMORPHIC ADAPTER BATTLE Laowa, Blazar, Aivascope, Great Joy, Schneider, Sirui 

Agreed

There is. SLR Magic. It's really good, too.

Vazen actually made a 1.8x adapter that comes with a variable diopter called MVD I think. It turns spherical lenses into 1.8x constant squeeze ratio anamorphic lenses that focuses down to 0.4m. Rather heavy and picky on taking lenses tho.

i know about that one, they didn't actually make it, it was made by a guy in china and they resold, but he didn't want ti sold outside of china :( @@nahlene1973

Aha, I didn't know that, no wonder there're 2-3 seemingly similar variations of that system under different names on Xianyu (Chinese Craigslist) selling for about 5000 Yuan. Great video by the way, thanks for making it. I recently started using Blazar Nero 1.5x + Sirui 1.33x series, getting very pleasing 2x footage, and it balances so well given its relative compactness.@@TheFilmGuyOfficial

thanks, I agree.

We picked up the Aivascope a couple years ago and have loved using it. Hard to describe (and it is definitely subjective), but it has lots of character without feeling like an *adapter*

glad it worked out for you, we agree about the weight

haha, i was in the same boat, so figured id do something about it. glad you enjoyed.

Also, just to clarify, were you saying that it’s possible to mount the Aivascope onto a taking lens with an 82mm filter thread? That adapter just looks so good and is still so tempting

@@christopherduran9926 yes! You just use a stepdown ring! Front thread size doesn’t matter as much, especially on longer lenses !

im glad it will help you!

same here.

you are welcome! and yes so dam warm haha, but i like it, just got to shift your WB. the bolitars are more like sharper faster Hellios 44s, i'm trying to get them to send me some more review so fingers crossed. alsoI have one of the new petztraval lenses, its nice but abit too crazy haha

glad you liked it,

i actually talk about this in the video at, 3:33 your real issue would be it becoming very unsharp at the longer focal lengths, my guess. it it wouldnt work super well at 75mm either

yeah its a shame the others don't do well and longer focal lengths, and yes the price of the Schneider is to much espesully given the design issues.

No problem with Cooke Deep Field Panchro 100mm, or Leica R APO macro 100mm and sharpness on the Aivascope v4 other than it makes your eyes bleed.

@@johndoane7200haha amazing

I tested 135mm APO M with Iscorama pre36 and ended up cutting my cornea how sharp it was. Not something I was after, though.

haha, same here.

We’re on the same path my dude. Let me know if you end up getting your hands on both for testing 🤙🏻

Very fair point! Showing them and their strengths & weaknesses is different to how you'd actually use them.

you are welcome! i don't have the nanomorph set so sadly i coulnt get much.

What we’re the Aivascope issues you encountered? Thinking about precariously mounting it with a BS1H on a RS2… well under 10lbs, but maybe still an issue?

it needs the support to be used effectively which means more rigging. @@caseyandtim

i do a bunch of fast movement handheld stuff and it was easy to get mis-aligned. plus the 1.75x version I had was pretty heavy @@caseyandtim

Yes I could not not stand the finicky aivascope. It looks good but that thing is a PAIN to use

interesting, thanks for that! i did see what looked like a ring on it, but for the life of me i couldn't get it of.

happy to have you.

You are welcome! The link is in the bio man! ❤️

I have reached the guy who makes them through Facebook. The link in the Bio is for the adapter itself, not the lens support. Thank you! @@TheFilmGuyOfficial

@@corerage oh yes, sorry I dindt know wht you ment. glad you found it.

Would you be able to share that info@@corerage ? I stopped the video as soon as it was mentioned because I love this adapter but a support foot would make production so much easier. Thank you!

Nope, they're all the same!

Yes sir!

interesting! yeah would be interesting to see if they had different versions out in the wild.

@@TheFilmGuyOfficial I need to correct myself. I tested the color shift and the GJ Adapter is about 700K warmer and ads +1 green. Guess I never noted it that extremly, because I tend to always use a greycard at the beginning of a shoot. But I would have liked you to show the color shift once and correct it from there onwards, so we can focus more on the character and not only on the color shift.

appreciate your correction. @@Apatura123

The SoundKeeper - The Static of Silence Ahead !

The camera was powered by the V-Lock actually using dtap to dc power! The other accessories (Monitor etc) were also powered by it.

@@ShaneVanLitz but I am seeing the actual Panasonic battery attached on it’s back ..or is that another accessory (maybe you can clear this @thefilmguy?)

@@KevinvanDiest It's my camera so I know how it's rigged pretty well! I sometimes have the Panasonic battery there to let me hot swap v-locks without powering down the camera - most the time I don't bother with it and just use V Mounts. You can see the blue DC cable going from D-Tap to the Blackmagic Video Assist monitor in several places. Normally I'd also have a wireless video transmitter and sometimes wireless followfocus running off V Lock as well, but not normally for these RU-vid vids.

@@ShaneVanLitz hahah sorry. Didn’t know. Thanks for explaining.

All good!@@KevinvanDiest

sadly no, not all adapters are created equally. the ones with smaller mounting rear elements just don't have enough surface areas to work well with all longer lenses on full frame. something to keep in mind is that the Dulens front element is a little bit deeper into the lens than some other lenses, as we said getting the adapter as close to the front element as possible helps mitigate things like vignetting.

@@TheFilmGuyOfficial Thanks for clarifying that. Which of these would you recommend generally for larger lenses that have front filter threads of 77mm or higher?

The taking lenses aren't used to focus once the adaptors are on, so you're only seeing the breathing of the adaptors...

yes the sirui, i used it on my slr magic 35mm on my sony fx3 with no vignetting at all. but it also has the least amount of charcter .

@@TheFilmGuyOfficial what about the new laowa? I feel like the sirui seems to perform the best wide open as well though too, I haven't seen anyone try the new laowa on 35mm full frame yet, otherwise I'm ready to buy the sirui lol

@@kylehessling2679 the Laowa has slight vinyetting at full frame 35mm, its minimal but it is their.

@@TheFilmGuyOfficial hmmmm I’m wondering if it’s worth the extra 1.08x squeeze? Probably not?

We both really liked it as an option if you're after a clean look and it was easy to use with very solid coverage - it didn't have any real strong negatives, it's just a lower squeeze which is great if that's what you're after.

I would Also add that, it really needs a support foot to keep it in place when focusing. its probs the best all rounder,

I’m having a hard time telling by the video but how would you rate the sharpness of the Laowa? Just want to check before fully committing

thanks man, yeah the inconstant squeeze is a tad annoying but its also the sharpest across the board.

The Nero is a lot better than these tests would have you think. The issue with the Nero is that it’s pretty much only good with 50mm lenses imo. Sharp modern 50mm lenses. I use it with TTartisan 50mm f2 and it looks great!

you get a lot more stretch haha, we have also put the greatjoy on the 1.8x anamorphic, fun results.

thats fair man! but also $$$$$$

@@TheFilmGuyOfficial I've seen them go in $2000-2500 range in the last few months. That's well in range, even the same, with some of the adapters in the video. Nice video, btw. :)

@@MrMilanina very cool, last time i looked i saw one go for like 9.5k haha

Technically, most adapters would probably work. The issue would be sharpness, because you are technically zooming in on the adapter as much as possible. I would suggest trying the laowa as it has the minimal amount of issues while retaining a sharp image! and you need to stop down!

@@TheFilmGuyOfficialdoes the Laowa work well with lenses wide open at 1.4?

@@chinitopinoy1726 its okay, it works better at f2

@@TheFilmGuyOfficial you have a sample you can show at 1.4?

@@chinitopinoy1726 i do not sorry. i just rember we tried and it was too soft for my liking. but keep in mind all lenses will act diffently becuase of distance from the adapter.

Agreed in regards to flaring and the filters etc! Any glass in front will likely change it! Interesting you say it’s optimised for 75mm. We found 58mm much sharper than 85mm

shane also thinks the avisacope has a variable stretch

Taking lenses affect sharpness, micro contrast and overall image rendering, a lens with spherical aberrations can mask chromatic aberrations to some extent, some taking lenses complement a specific adapter, others can detract, pristine or funky, it’s all in the mix…The old adage garage in garbage out, but then one man’s garbage is another’s gold.

Aivascope cannot have variable stretch, cylinders don't move at all@@TheFilmGuyOfficial

@@TheFilmGuyOfficial I had best results with 58mm too. Then 50mm and then 40mm, MFT sensor BMPCC4k

haha I hope this is a joke? This shows that the adapter doesn't cover those focal lengths, on open gate fullframe on the BS1H it vignettes. you can do the math on your open camera sensor

@@TheFilmGuyOfficial No, I mean to show where an adapter of lens vignettes, it is better to have lighter borders.

@@danielvilliers612 the border you are seeing is vignetting..

Not sure I understand, the dark corners are the adaptors vignetting... There's no coverage there.

@@ShaneVanLitz thta's the pronlem as you cannot distinguish between vignette and the adapter coverage because it is black on black subject.

didn't have access too one :(

collectors bag@@TheFilmGuyOfficial

yes! but who cares! x is easier to say. when you are constantly having to say it haha

@TheFilmGuyOfficial Real cinematographers care if you're too lazy to say times. What else are you lazy on Ha ha 😂 🤣

@@leonpowell1044 haha Reel cinematographers? stop being so pretentious, most pro DOPs don't care about tecnicalities, infact if you start talking like that they get turned off. language changes and adapts its called slang.

Most cinematographers I speak to say 'X', maybe it's local / colloquial. But really saying 'x' or 'times' doesn't impact the image, so I don't think any cinematographer I know would actually care to be frank 😂🤣 @@leonpowell1044

It’s pretty full on but you just adjust your white balance and it’s fine!

- thanks for your comment, I appreciate you taking the time. - split screens could have been useful I agree, but we also didnt want to make the video far too long, in my experience, most people don't watch them. plus you can just skip around the video and go back and forth, if we were comparing 2 adapters i think its fair. but its not hard to just go back and fourth if you really need too.. - text being too small? i mean i have pretty bad eye sight and i think its fine, but its all subjective i guess. - if the shots are to fast for you, we recommend you use the youtube slow down feature! you can set the play speed to 25% speed. - Sensor size doesn't really matter, because you just do the math with whatever sensor size you are using. s35 isnt better for it, you just have different numbers that workout to be an equivalent FF focal length. plus most shooters are using full frame these days so its very relevant, we wanted people to see how they vignette.

@@TheFilmGuyOfficial I appreciate you taking the the to reply, however agree to disagree. Anamorphic, historically, was designed for Super35. In the digital age with most FF sensors having roughly the same MP resolution as APSc sensors it means having to crop more than someone working anamorphic on APSc that you’re consistently working with possibly a lot less image resolution, it’s just basic math. If you’re starting with 24 MP and you have discard 25% to get rid of vignette and terrible unusable CA corners you’re left with roughly 18 MP resolution where someone working on APSc will still be left with 23-39 MP resolution depending on the camera after cropping. Sensor size, in most use cases doesn’t matter, but relative to anamorphic image making matters a great deal. This is the kind of information a review is actually for, not just appeasing the masses that have all jumped on the FF bandwagon without really knowing why. If you’re shooting primarily spherical and anamorphic is basically a free time dalliance for you than it’s important to state that as well, so people know what they are in for. With the text, I mean, if you’re looking at it in the edit bay for hours on end you can make whatever excuses, I guess. However, even with the most rudimentary graphic design education (1 course) you would know why that text was a poor choice. Think about music video text design for just a second before getting defensive.

@@Imhotep397 Interesting points! We felt that shooting full frame is a good way to test coverage and there are plenty of large format optimised scopes on the market - although I do agree historically s35 is the way to go. We're not saying everyone has to shoot full frame, we just wanted the largest image possible for the tests because it's something that some people (myself included) may be interested in. Even if you never intend to use the furthest extents / larger sensors most of the time, you might need to on one shoot someday down the line. It doesn't take away from the s35 portion of the image, just gives you more data for the comparison - not less. Sorry if that's not ideal for you and I will also say that if the video wasn't so long I'd have personally loved to do a second round of tests shooting s35 4:3, but it's a long watch as it is - maybe next time! :)

@@ShaneVanLitz I can appreciate your optimism.

Wow, its mind boggling how entitled and rude a person can be. Do your own tests if you have a problem with these! I