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0:00 Intro
1:18 What the heck is this?
3:07 Outdoors Experience
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9:02 A weird choice
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@WilliamOgden
@WilliamOgden 28 дней назад
As a live audio engineer, I could see this being useful. Most functions on modern digital consoles are part of the screen. When we do outdoor festivals, it is very difficult to see the display. Even with a tent or canopy the display can be unusable.
@MrPruske
@MrPruske 28 дней назад
🎉
@PendragonDaGreat
@PendragonDaGreat 28 дней назад
I do live audio as well, I'd love to see a hybrid display like this. Where it has a front light like a Kindle e-reader or that other e-ink display they mentioned. That way it can simulate sunlight (I guess like a GBA-SP). Because agreed outdoor midday shows absolutely impossible at times. But once the sun goes down, or if you're doing an indoor show, the Achilles heel of "needs light to function" becomes apparent, and the little goosenecks on most desks may not be enough. Just add a toggle near the screen so you can turn on the light when needed, or turn it off when you don't.
@Rararawr
@Rararawr 28 дней назад
Still seems like an incomplete solution for that. Once it gets dark, or even the sun no longer in a position to reflect off the monitor at you, you're just gonna need a different display.
@WilliamOgden
@WilliamOgden 28 дней назад
@@PendragonDaGreat yeah I think you have the right idea here It would need to be some sort of hybrid solution
@blairhoughton7918
@blairhoughton7918 28 дней назад
Yeah this is for functional usage, not high fidelity creative graphic stuff. There's probably a way to adapt it to automotive displays with a complementary light for when the sun isn't on it.
@fozzylozzy1131
@fozzylozzy1131 28 дней назад
It handles sunlight better than 90% of reddit mods
@elgoblinospark2949
@elgoblinospark2949 28 дней назад
ikr
@kbhasi
@kbhasi 28 дней назад
Yep! (thinks about when my post got removed and the moderator refused to explain why beyond the name of the rule they clicked on)
@mopman9264
@mopman9264 28 дней назад
only 90% ?!
@Gobbbbb
@Gobbbbb 28 дней назад
You're being too generous.
@YTKeepsDeletingAllMyComments
@YTKeepsDeletingAllMyComments 28 дней назад
​@@kbhasiI got banned for hate speech when I said nothing at all. It was eventually overturned but yeah, get banned for absolutely nothing !
@SplotchyInk
@SplotchyInk 28 дней назад
Honestly, I've done a lot of fabrication stuff, I can totally see this being really useful. There are a ton of various outdoor events, worksites, and even just general inspections in which having a Nuk style computer hooked up to one of these screens connected via an extension cord would be absolutely amazing for just general diagnostics. ((Also there's a bunch of fishing events that record all their weights on the computer and I always see them just bending over squinting at the screen as they try and see it))
@nimmawibba9874
@nimmawibba9874 26 дней назад
Yes but charging 1500 to essentially remove features and only be 1080p+60hz is genuinely outrageous
@tipeton
@tipeton 27 дней назад
Dude doesn't understand how much outdoor workers need this. Same for ads could be seen during the wouldn't emit light at night. And as other people said remote working in your garden, terrasse, balcony, patio or at the beach... My wife would have love that screen last week.
@nickrreese
@nickrreese 28 дней назад
Useful for outdoor events if you need an admin desk for accounting, sign-ins for attendees, and payment processing
@metaleuman
@metaleuman 28 дней назад
A 32 inch screen ?
@alexatkin
@alexatkin 28 дней назад
But then it would be more useful on a tablet, ideally a waterproof one.
@richardprice5978
@richardprice5978 28 дней назад
car's dashboard as i don't always want back-lighting and or blindingly senter but also don't see the need in the modern era for 20 mechanical gages anymore other than for fantasy design as functional can be handled better with minimal gages+buttons and screen's
@Dlutheran
@Dlutheran 28 дней назад
@@richardprice5978yeah but what about at night?
@TheOriginalFaxon
@TheOriginalFaxon 28 дней назад
Also for the audio-video engineers. someone has to manage the projection maps and the DSP mixer on the audio stack at your festival, even during the daytime.
@StackOfPancakes2216
@StackOfPancakes2216 28 дней назад
Me when the video started: "So it's a GameBoy?" The video 2 seconds later: "Yep, it's a GameBoy"
@user-ec3rm9wr1n
@user-ec3rm9wr1n 28 дней назад
😩😒
@saysbadman
@saysbadman 28 дней назад
GameBoy Color!
@Runslik3Wind
@Runslik3Wind 28 дней назад
lol same here, was like oh its a gameboy cool. people forget how viewable the gbc was when sitting out in the yard.
@weeveferrelaine6973
@weeveferrelaine6973 28 дней назад
@@Runslik3Wind And the battery life was wild. You could take shitty alkaline batteries and game for hundreds of hours on them. So much of my childhood was spent with my waiting times at the buss stop or sneaking some pokemon play at night on my GBC (which I still have). Really incredible tech and games for the time, that are still fairly impressive.
@ClassicGamer2996
@ClassicGamer2996 28 дней назад
I thought the same
@seraeo8226
@seraeo8226 28 дней назад
I worked in Ag-Tech for years, and man, I wish I had a display like this for all my readouts in the field. Would've mad e a huge difference when giving demos and pretty much all the other work I had to do from my truck.
@leumgui
@leumgui 28 дней назад
10:20 goddamn, I spit out my breakfast
@BBROPHOTO
@BBROPHOTO 28 дней назад
Actual use case - live events, like music festivals where sound and lighting techs need to see screens. Also, astrophotographers who do a lot of solar imaging - that's something I personally do and seeing the screen is one of the hardest parts about doing it.
@willofthewind
@willofthewind 28 дней назад
I work in live events and second this... but it would need to also have a backlight that could be enabled during dark conditions to really be worth using.
@oldbuddyolpal9859
@oldbuddyolpal9859 28 дней назад
Audio engineer isn't going to want to sit in the sun
@kretieg
@kretieg 28 дней назад
I have a custom 16" Dobsonian. The nosebleed cost of tunable Ha filters under 4 angstrom keeps me confined to nighttime use. That's fine. Galaxy's, clusters bot spherical and open, planets, moons. Yes. Moons.
@BBROPHOTO
@BBROPHOTO 28 дней назад
@@kretieg haha yes, Ha scopes / tuneable filters are crazy expensive. I generally only do deep sky with a newtonian monochrome camera setup. I only do casual white light solar imaging which is good fun, but the difficulties of seeing the screen are still very real.
@calebjonathan25
@calebjonathan25 28 дней назад
@@willofthewind At 12:12, he explains that frontlighting is available on SVD's outdoor signage -- just not included on the monitor due to customer preference.
@hansdampf2776
@hansdampf2776 28 дней назад
the only screen where a lightbar makes sense!
@deswill2737
@deswill2737 28 дней назад
a lightbar makes sense either way since it lights up your desk and uses less power than lighting the room
@CanIHasThisName
@CanIHasThisName 28 дней назад
Lightbars are designed in such a way that they don't hit the screen. So they're useless for this.
@TheHammerGuy94
@TheHammerGuy94 28 дней назад
@@CanIHasThisNameLinus has always thought they were stupid since "Why would you want to light up the screen when it already has a backlight???" well, they are actually Desk lights that use your monitor as the mount. they are supposed to light up the desk. and give your eyes less strain as they brighten your desk space in general. But you can angle them to also point at the screen if you want.
@CanIHasThisName
@CanIHasThisName 28 дней назад
​@@TheHammerGuy94 I'm aware, it took quite a while for someone to finally explain it to him (haven't seen him make that remark in a long while, so I'm assuming someone did). To be fair though, many people have the same misconception, so it's not a difficult mistake to make. And he still has a point that they're ridiculously expensive even considering the specific temperature, especially since most of them only illuminate the front, not the back (shining a light at the wall behind the monitor is often the most effective way of preventing eye strain).
@LRM12o8
@LRM12o8 28 дней назад
@CanIHasThisName lol, I too thought they were for lighting up the screen 😅 And yeah, I agree, lighting up the wall behind the monitor is great (probably better to prevent eye strain. I have a RGB strip on the back of my desk that lights up the wall. I installed it for looks (and because it was left over from a previous project), but it I quickly noticed that it really makes computing in the dark more comfortable.
@the_rustydoornob1164
@the_rustydoornob1164 28 дней назад
10:27 bruh who wrote THAT joke I didn’t expect that anywhere 💀💀💀💀
@Supervhizor
@Supervhizor 28 дней назад
the ghost of anthony
@battalionstallion3894
@battalionstallion3894 28 дней назад
emily or jake or any of their friends on the writing team
@Titin5123
@Titin5123 19 дней назад
Someone who doesn't live in Florida or even the US
@MajorasWrath1
@MajorasWrath1 10 дней назад
​@@Titin5123I live in the USA and they're right.
@BrettCarlsen
@BrettCarlsen 28 дней назад
I mean this to be constructive, as someone who watches all your videos on a tv with surround sound or computer with reference speakers and subwoofer. Can you please apply a high pass filter, often you guys have some errant low frequencies bouncing around, this video has it around 5 minutes (wind on the lavalier I'm sure). Love your channel
@tschuuuls486
@tschuuuls486 27 дней назад
You probably should email them and ask for the email to be forwarded, if you care enough :D
@alexkoehn5036
@alexkoehn5036 28 дней назад
Due to ultraviolet dyes mixed in, the sheet of paper actually "reflects" more (visible) light than initially hit it. The dye converts some invisible light into visible light, so you see more light.
@Shaflugi
@Shaflugi 28 дней назад
That's rad.
@lua-nya
@lua-nya 28 дней назад
That explains how stupidly white that paper is.
@JinKee
@JinKee 28 дней назад
How do we get so many bullets in them? Like this! Plus, we fire the whole bullet. That's 65% more bullet per bullet. This is the same technology we've been using on robots for decades. Scares the hell out of them. They come in hundreds of designer colors including forest, desert, table, evening at the improv... what idiot picked the...
@ganzeige
@ganzeige 27 дней назад
So you are basically saying, the display would be brighter under sunlight, if theyd had used a sheet of paper as their reflective layer?
@comeradecoyote
@comeradecoyote 27 дней назад
Optical brighteners strike again
@Huebz
@Huebz 28 дней назад
4:16 I'ts really funny to note that aside from text it "doesn't look that good" when, in that lighting, it looks about 1000x better than the monitor right next to it because you can actually see it clearly.
@zen6591
@zen6591 27 дней назад
he clarifies that in 20 seconds
@ingenarelitems
@ingenarelitems 28 дней назад
10:24 ain't no way he said that
@djnazgra
@djnazgra 28 дней назад
But he did. Lol
@Ferno209
@Ferno209 28 дней назад
I laughed so hard when he said it cause its true! Florida is next level stupid
@ARandomInternetUser08
@ARandomInternetUser08 28 дней назад
@@kieraisverybored speak for yourself, 🤡🤡
@osborne3
@osborne3 28 дней назад
@@Ferno209 Probably don't want books on leftist illusions about gender, directed towards kids. But still shouldn't be banned from public libraries, if that's the case.
@MannyHaarp
@MannyHaarp 27 дней назад
I almost spat my coffee in laughter
@leneal2315
@leneal2315 27 дней назад
lmao the "dissapear faster than a book about gender in a Florida library" caught me off guard :3
@Rainbow_Atlas
@Rainbow_Atlas 23 дня назад
Really did xD
@stratosvomvos
@stratosvomvos 28 дней назад
OLED, nah I have SUNLED
@Gamepadder
@Gamepadder 28 дней назад
😂
@Nate-bd8fg
@Nate-bd8fg 28 дней назад
"LED" stands for Light Emitting Display. So maybe SRD? Sun reflecting display?
@Pib31995
@Pib31995 28 дней назад
@@Nate-bd8fg LED stands for Light Emitting Diode
@Nate-bd8fg
@Nate-bd8fg 28 дней назад
@@Pib31995 ah shit you rite
@stratosvomvos
@stratosvomvos 28 дней назад
How did this comment get 340 likes, my whole channel got 23 ( wut)
@Makerr8
@Makerr8 28 дней назад
Another use case for a monitor like this could be on job sites that use BIM software. Contractors on site can get updated drawings that are displayed on a computer monitor that typically needs to be in a dim area so they can be read. This display could help make those drawing stations more accessible on job sites.
@alexatkin
@alexatkin 28 дней назад
But that's more what their original signage monitors would be ideal for, given they're waterproof and presumably built to take a beating. I just can't figure how this kind of screen in a traditional monitor package is useful.
@a-aron2276
@a-aron2276 28 дней назад
Updated drawings😂😂 good one!!
@bakto2122
@bakto2122 28 дней назад
Do you work with BIM? I don't really work in the field, but have heard a bit about it (mostly from my dad who works on civil engineering projects). From what I've heard it seems like unneeded complexity without any benefit. I would love to hear someone's opinion who actually works with BIM.
@Makerr8
@Makerr8 28 дней назад
@@bakto2122 from what I have seen (architecture side) its only used by firms who have all of their consultants already using revit/BIM so it makes sense or if there is a project that is very complicated and needs better coordination between the structural engineer's drawings and the MEP's drawings. Other than that its not used much because it costs too much to have everyone on board.
@Roko-jb5hl
@Roko-jb5hl 28 дней назад
Some company made an RLCD android tablet not long ago, . That would perfect for job sites.
@syamprasaddokka
@syamprasaddokka 28 дней назад
I "Finally" Understand why Benq makes those display top-down lights.
@jrcat2258
@jrcat2258 28 дней назад
This monitor means that I can now sit outside to take my meetings instead of sitting inside in a dark cube all day. It's a bit pricey, but if it gets any cheaper I'll buy one for sure. Imagine having one of these at the beach
@knabbagluon
@knabbagluon 28 дней назад
this. I don't understand how nobody here seems to want this. I really hate working so much in the dark when outside is nice weather.
@calebjonathan25
@calebjonathan25 27 дней назад
That is an excellent use case! The RLCD monitor opens some big doors for people who want to bring their office outside to bright environs where backlit tech is very limited.
@comeradecoyote
@comeradecoyote 27 дней назад
Thats honestly not a half bad idea. Outdoor office. Idk how comfortable the display would be in some lighting conditions. But slap your pc on a cart or stand, with an outlet strip, monitor, and webcam, and you could work in the backyard easily. Or a screened in porch. Kinda reminds me how some writers used to take their typewriter out on a nice day. They even offered typewriter cases with tripods, for working while travelling or at baseball games or w/e.
@Gorlami90
@Gorlami90 27 дней назад
Who takes a pc to the beach?
@tobihalo2
@tobihalo2 27 дней назад
You don't bring your gaming PC to the beach??​@@Gorlami90
@ChrisClark1999
@ChrisClark1999 28 дней назад
This would be great for saving battery in a laptop when outside, but you'd also want the option to toggle a backlight for inside
@Crand0m
@Crand0m 28 дней назад
I need this with usb-c output
@iurigrang
@iurigrang 28 дней назад
I was thinking about a toggleable backlight, but this probably has to be calibrated such that the image looks right when passing through the color filters twice, which would make the backlight image washed out when compared to the reflected image. This probably would make contrast still highly dependent on ambient light
@aebisdecunter
@aebisdecunter 28 дней назад
The problem is in the diffusion layers. This monitor is dimm already in everything but daylight, so adding several another layers would make unusable even in overcast. As I see it, you either have RLCD with *front* light or you'd need a switchable diffusion or mirror layers. Another option is to go with Quantum dots, since they could convert the light from the front and from the back.
@Dr.Spatula
@Dr.Spatula 28 дней назад
Backlight? Build a front light into the bottom of the laptop
@CromulentEmbiggening
@CromulentEmbiggening 28 дней назад
Or a frontlight toggle like the first GBA-SP
@noredine
@noredine 28 дней назад
Playing a Horror game with a flashlight headband would be hilarious
@mz-power9587
@mz-power9587 28 дней назад
That's actually such a great idea
@not_creative_with_username3834
@not_creative_with_username3834 28 дней назад
Damn!!! that would be sick!
@epaper_eink
@epaper_eink 28 дней назад
I've compiled a list of all 5 RLCD monitors out there. Great review btw. Love your enthusiasm.
@NigelMelanisticSmith
@NigelMelanisticSmith 28 дней назад
Glad LTT started reviewing eye care displays, since I always had wanted major reviews of them before buying mine. I use this and some E Ink screens to reduce eye strain, and in conjunction with Miebo, it's done wonders for my headaches. I use a nearby window to fully illuminate my screen. I do wish more of their major monitor reviews mentioned eye care however. It's hard to tell how much flicker and things like that can effect you with a normal monitor until you buy one.
@MrPruske
@MrPruske 28 дней назад
It would have been great to show an old game boy game emulated on it XD
@user-ec3rm9wr1n
@user-ec3rm9wr1n 28 дней назад
Well sigh .....
@Unknown_Genius
@Unknown_Genius 28 дней назад
That'd 100% end worse. As much as I remember being annoyed that I did need light to use it, I definitely don't remotely remember it being that dark unless you were sitting next to tree in the shadow while the sun was almost entirely gone.
@FabianTorres-pp8jn
@FabianTorres-pp8jn 28 дней назад
at 6:17 a wild Taran Appeared.... cool to see him around LTT videos even after that tearfull goodbye
@AltonV
@AltonV 28 дней назад
It's a clip from an old video
@benjamin_lincoln
@benjamin_lincoln 28 дней назад
@@AltonV 🤯🤯
@StFilip89
@StFilip89 28 дней назад
Haha, I was looking for comment about Taran.
@KitBetts-Masters
@KitBetts-Masters 28 дней назад
I've covered this monitor a lot. I think you're right, it's just for text really. I must say, this is an excellent video, the testing is simply brilliant. GJ LTT.
@yensteel
@yensteel 26 дней назад
Wow, nice to see you here too!
@DJGeosmin
@DJGeosmin 27 дней назад
as a sound engineer who does mainly outdoor festivals, I can see this being handy for daytime events. would be good for lighting too, but I normally am not doing fancy enough lights during daytime to need more monitors than whats built in to an MA
@0bamo0
@0bamo0 28 дней назад
Now the light bar everyone putting on top of their screens makes so much more sense actually!
@AtomicOverdrive
@AtomicOverdrive 28 дней назад
I can see that type of display in say a laptop meant to be used outdoors, like construction areas. But only if it has the option for a back light when used indoors.
@alexatkin
@alexatkin 28 дней назад
Its just weird in a monitor form factor, like you said it makes more sense in a laptop or tablet, ideally a waterproof ruggedised one.
@stevecole90099
@stevecole90099 28 дней назад
It would be great if they could pair this with a backlight to get the best of both. Imagine a smartphone that could just disable its backlight outside and still get 2000 nits on the screen while also improving battery life but still has the backlight for use when inside. Same for laptops, tablets, and handhelds.
@vadnegru
@vadnegru 28 дней назад
Something similar used in my Amazfit Bip. Problem is that not many colours are displayed. But i can confirm, it works both ways
@CromulentEmbiggening
@CromulentEmbiggening 28 дней назад
Or a frontlight like the GBA SP early model. I don't know if the reflective back is compatible with backlighting or it probably would've been done in the later GBA models
@Vicente_Bravo
@Vicente_Bravo 17 дней назад
This video suffers lower viewership, demonstrating RU-vid viewership means nothing, because this one was FANTASTIC. One of the best videos as of late.
@HedgehogY2K
@HedgehogY2K 26 дней назад
Imagine a USB C powered display that lets you work with your laptop connected to it. That way you're prepared to edit an outside project.
@andrewvickers6847
@andrewvickers6847 28 дней назад
this would be perfect for outside shows in audio visual for computer system that are needed to control lighing and or audio where a reguler lcd would fail
@skelybrinegaming8497
@skelybrinegaming8497 28 дней назад
“Makes greys disappear faster than a book about gender in a Florida library” damn, didn’t expect such hot topics to come out of ltt, still a funny joke
@donc-m4900
@donc-m4900 28 дней назад
10:19 Linus canceled in 3, 2, 1. Lol
@no_skcaj1038
@no_skcaj1038 28 дней назад
Ltt is great
@Hakai_ryu
@Hakai_ryu 28 дней назад
I would have spit my drink out if I had taken a sip right before then.
@sylvester4207
@sylvester4207 28 дней назад
What a fantastic joke lmaoo
@fab1604
@fab1604 28 дней назад
Based DeSantis
@Perplexody
@Perplexody 26 дней назад
This would make an amazing screen for a drone controller as well as the many other used mentioned in the comments. That's just one that immediately stood out to me
@SuperJimBobJoe
@SuperJimBobJoe 26 дней назад
Would be interested to see something like this combined with some kind of edge lighting for outdoor use. Feels like that could keep it usable in a lot of scenarios
@supperKingofworld
@supperKingofworld 28 дней назад
The power of the sun IN THE PALM OF MY HANDS!
@Narinjas
@Narinjas 28 дней назад
He can have a small dimmable projector at the right angle to have maximum control over this monitor... but i am a vampire so i never stay in the light...
@ilovefunnyamv2nd
@ilovefunnyamv2nd 28 дней назад
"in the palm of my hand" I understood that reference, both the wan show, and Doc Ock
@sethbingo
@sethbingo 28 дней назад
Ladies and gentlemen, fasten your seatbelts
@TheHammerGuy94
@TheHammerGuy94 28 дней назад
Hey Linus!!! Those Light bars that point at the screen don't look silly now eh?
@PopArtem
@PopArtem 10 дней назад
Can't wait for Dasung Paperlike color review! And thank you for reviewing this one!
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 28 дней назад
There is a defunct panel tech called PIXEL QI. It was used on the OLPC XO-1 and I had one on the Notion Ink Adam. Like this it was a reflective Colour LCD but it had a front light. In sunlight reflective mode only Gray Scale was visible even though it was a colour panel. Indoor mode with front light it was a decent quality colour LCD just mildly washed out low contrast. I think that was the best compromise as it was very general purpose applicable.
@yensteel
@yensteel 28 дней назад
I miss that company too! I remember getting excited for the Adam because it means I can have tablet functionality everywhere, hiking, park, beach, anywhere. T-LCD and R-LCD are the best compromise between E-InK and LCD. Clover used their displays for outdoor laptops too. Eazeye could be in the right direction. They’re also using T-LCD. The low-power LCD tech of the e-paper pebble watches are also good. It’s also a great direction for tablets. No ghosting, excellent battery life, outdoor friendly, proven tech for 40+ years.
@Parsilious
@Parsilious 28 дней назад
10:20 Ohhhh nooo, you didn't Linus...
@itr00ow93
@itr00ow93 28 дней назад
they're laughing in Canadian probably :p
@Narcle0
@Narcle0 28 дней назад
🤣🤣🤣
@jefmoesy
@jefmoesy 28 дней назад
Respect just went up x1000000👍😂
@Verchiel_
@Verchiel_ 28 дней назад
@@itr00ow93 they and the rest of the world are laughing at not being american.
@OGTrula
@OGTrula 28 дней назад
Good thing there is only smart people in the tech community.. oh wait
@JackJackDaBest
@JackJackDaBest 28 дней назад
10:25 is CRAZYYYYYY
@ARandomInternetUser08
@ARandomInternetUser08 28 дней назад
Crazy political trash*
@HotdogSosage
@HotdogSosage 27 дней назад
Crazy is getting high on drugs and trying to eat people. This is just a sad attempt of forcing a weak political joke in
@CubanLegend561
@CubanLegend561 27 дней назад
i loled so hard
@Sn0wiss
@Sn0wiss 27 дней назад
@@ARandomInternetUser08 AKA a joke
@gaelenhammond5010
@gaelenhammond5010 27 дней назад
I don’t think it’s political to say a joke about a thing that happens.
@nicknorthcutt7680
@nicknorthcutt7680 28 дней назад
There is a tablet made with the same type of reflective LCD tech, but the cool thing is that along with the reflective LCD layer, it also has a layer of LEDs on top facing the panel so that it can be used indoors.
@TheAkashicTraveller
@TheAkashicTraveller 27 дней назад
Which is wierd to me because transflective LCDs exist, or existed not sure, which are both reflective and have a backlight.
@cj.wijtmans
@cj.wijtmans 26 дней назад
@@TheAkashicTraveller its probably not as good as a pure reflective layer. It will make more sense to put light on it from the front
@vikas9090
@vikas9090 27 дней назад
This awesome I have been looking for such thing
@bradweinberger6907
@bradweinberger6907 28 дней назад
"The customer is always right in regards to taste " is the proper qoute
@thehailey
@thehailey 28 дней назад
If we're gonna get picky it's "right in matters of taste", and this would be a matter of taste where they want u to leave out expensive additional features and they still get charged the same
@frvo
@frvo 28 дней назад
My Garmin Forerunner 955 has this kind of display. It's the ideal type of panel for the use case. I absolutely love it.
@bioboertuur
@bioboertuur 28 дней назад
want one! very difficult to read displays in the greenhouses without shade boxes. This would make that way more flexible.
@calebjonathan25
@calebjonathan25 27 дней назад
Absolutely!
@DylanN1ne
@DylanN1ne 28 дней назад
I remember seeing this technology showcased back in 2017. Glad to see it finally come up again, hopefully its here to stay!
@comeradecoyote
@comeradecoyote 28 дней назад
Finally, a monitor that you need a desk lamp for. Of course this probably would have a lot of great utility for semi-outdoor POS systems like at theme parks, or other theme park type information displays (As long as they have a light strip above them for overcast weather and nightime operation). Otherwise I could see people using this for outdoor patio use, for football games or what have you. But short of integration into a weather housing, it would be "Lug outside for parties" kind of use. A neat niche for sure. Their digital signage products make a lot more sense especially in the kinds of conditions you now typically see backlit digital signage. I wonder how their power performance compares to the rising competing technology of E-ink displays, considering they have a similar low power profile, but good sunlight performance. The backlight feature of the E-inks in some ways allows for better versatility. Unless they offer a sun-LCD with a supplemental lighting feature.
@uberfuzzy
@uberfuzzy 28 дней назад
I had the same idea, but my first thought example was toll-booths, since they usually 3-4 glass sides, so ALL the daylight gets in there.
@comeradecoyote
@comeradecoyote 27 дней назад
@@uberfuzzy I think the age of toll plaza’s is coming to an end. Most places are ditching them for computer vision toll enforcement, and RFID tag billing like EZ-pass. Otherwise thats not a bad idea. I’m sure they’d find a niche for any outdoor booth, as long as a windshield’s polarisation doesn’t affect the visibility of the display. I know some linear and circular polarisers like camera lenses and sunglasses might cause a perceptible dimming.
@THeMin1000
@THeMin1000 28 дней назад
Finally rlcd got a mention, the main advantage for these panels is the reduced eye strain. Is amazing for long hours of text based work like as a dev this is really good
@NigelMelanisticSmith
@NigelMelanisticSmith 28 дней назад
I agree. I work in Cyber Security and use this monitor to help with my eye strain.
@GMZLDK
@GMZLDK 28 дней назад
100% agree
@thehailey
@thehailey 28 дней назад
A normal LCD with a flicker-free low brightness setting is bout 10% of the price, but power to ya
@kuba_wasikowski
@kuba_wasikowski 28 дней назад
I have this monitor for 2 years and helped me a lot with eyestrain, well not this RE but previous version that has same panel
@JGnLAU8OAWF6
@JGnLAU8OAWF6 28 дней назад
If it were able to reflect as much as even gray paper it would be great, but right now normal LCD with dialed in brightness would be a lot better.
@AyeAyeLtd
@AyeAyeLtd 27 дней назад
This would be amazing for an outdoor video shoot. Sun everywhere, plus if it's just 6W you could theoretically power it off a little USB battery bank.
@zeekjones1
@zeekjones1 25 дней назад
I like that someone finally brought this tech back. I'd even go as far to hope they are used in newer tablets, phones, and watches eventually too. But since 'new development/adopter tax' for these screens are still a bit high, one can only hope something like big companies in the sports or food industry make some partnerships or at least some large orders.
@teg24601
@teg24601 28 дней назад
I love the conversation about light and contrast ratio. Remind me of the Technology Connections video on the color brown, which is just orange with context.
@daniwalmsley611
@daniwalmsley611 28 дней назад
This seems like it be a really cool portable monitor technology. Being able to get some work done outdoors without having to find shade for your laptop, and if it gets cloudy, you can just use your laptops display
@Brogboolius_Maximus
@Brogboolius_Maximus 28 дней назад
I had honestly forgotten about reflective screens, but this was super cool. I would 100% buy a portable monitor that used this technology.
@rijaja
@rijaja 23 дня назад
1:58 I was getting worried, it's been a long time since the last mention of Liquid Crystal Display displays
@kirisuma2186
@kirisuma2186 28 дней назад
... gotta love that you used an Austin Clip for that color Accuracy clip...
@MarioGoatse
@MarioGoatse 28 дней назад
What's the relevance there? Is there a joke or a reference?
@kirisuma2186
@kirisuma2186 27 дней назад
@@MarioGoatse no, If anything just a nod to a fellow RU-vidr. They could have easily used one of their own clips.
@embedyt
@embedyt 28 дней назад
"the lack of contrast can make distinct shades of gray disappear faster than a book about gender in a florida library" holy SHIT linus
@Alex-zi1nb
@Alex-zi1nb 28 дней назад
epic joke
@sennevanopdorp2022
@sennevanopdorp2022 28 дней назад
I heard this quote and omg
@moo5613
@moo5613 28 дней назад
HES SO REAL FOR THAT
@jooroth18
@jooroth18 28 дней назад
As a florida resident I almost spit out my drink when i heard that lmao
@emmaknijn
@emmaknijn 28 дней назад
I love it
@Postal268
@Postal268 27 дней назад
I could see this being extremely helpful in the screen I installed in my CRX since it's got a large back hatch window so often the sun is pouring through when it's behind me making the screen (and thus my GPS/radio controls) almost completely unreadable, and the old school aftermarket radio screen in the car is 100% un-readable at almost any level of sunlight. If you could add a light to make this usable at night also it would be fantastic for any screen that needs used in vehicles, maybe phones, and smart watches but I can't see the use case for it in a computer monitor outside of niche applications like music festivals or other events, maybe some work type situations like on site computer for construction, etc. but Jesus that price. edit: Just thought of this, would be an option for watching tv on a camping trip? low power consumption and working in sunlight could be useful there. edit 2: Could be useful for a bedroom tv that you don't want making light but you want it on to sleep to? Could be stretch there, I have a really old 50" 2006 TV (got it for $15) that used a lamp in the back for my bedroom TV. 720p sucks and you can't use it all if the lights are on in the room BUT it's capable of being dimmer than a modern TV which makes it my ideal TV for when I'm in bed with the lights off.
@PolyesterMoustache
@PolyesterMoustache 28 дней назад
I've never heard of people thinking blue light causes eye damage. People avoid high amounts of blue light because it messes with their sleep cycle
@Lizlodude
@Lizlodude 27 дней назад
Yeah it kinda showed up when the 'blue light glasses' became popular, pretty much just to sell more of them as far as I can tell.
@PolyesterMoustache
@PolyesterMoustache 27 дней назад
@@Lizlodude it's just weird to even address such a nonsense claim when there's a legitimate one that's been around much longer. But I guess it's good to publicly debunk hogwash
@gamingmarcus
@gamingmarcus 28 дней назад
It's certainly nice to have as a backup for any kind of outdoor activity. Just mirror your content to this and a normal monitor to use whichever fits the current environment best.
@Big007Boss
@Big007Boss 28 дней назад
Finally, a reason to go outside and touch grass with my sun powered display
@billy101456
@billy101456 25 дней назад
Imagine this on like a Toughbook with a front light. For a system they expect your using in a literal field, it would be amazing.
@AlecMHansen
@AlecMHansen 28 дней назад
Hey Linus and team, curious what was the lux/lumen output of the bright light you were shining on it the display in the second half of the video? I suffer from seasonal affective disorder and my strategy to mitigate it has been to either go to Florida for the summer or buy $400 in light bulbs and light up my home office much brighter than the usual 300 lux you’d get in an office. I hit around 7,000 lux in my home office. I think this would be more usable than my current monitors that are a bit difficult to read.
@alltheotherhandlesaretaken
@alltheotherhandlesaretaken 28 дней назад
Finally, a perfect monitor to use with Andy’s monitor light bar.
@dalyxia
@dalyxia 28 дней назад
usecase can be to adopt this tech into the "normal" lcd/led displays, so you have best of both worls. Sensor to detect ambient light levels to make an ultra low energy display for like worklaptop.
@foldionepapyrus3441
@foldionepapyrus3441 28 дней назад
Has already been done 'transflective displays' have been fitted in as far as I know ever Panasonic Toughbook for decades, and my old models are really great at remaining very readable in the daylight but still working in the dark. The technology does still have limitations on pixel density etc but you can get a perfectly acceptable screen out of it.
@yensteel
@yensteel 26 дней назад
Woot, the same company in this video now has what you're looking for.
@Artista_Frustrado
@Artista_Frustrado 28 дней назад
i could see it being useful in my bedroom when is 2 in the morning & i would like a very dim light... but for that price I'm sure i can find a better indoor monitor that can get as dim but yeah this is clearly for OutDoor usage, maybe get Framework to add a Sunview Screen module as an option
@Max_Mustermann
@Max_Mustermann 28 дней назад
Not sure about adding a front light, but making it trans-reflective would make sense. Which was a technology that was used in early mobile phones with color screens and in a handful of laptops like the Toshiba Portege R500. The LCD had a backlight, but was also readable in direct sunlight with the backlight turned off.
@mtrps_
@mtrps_ 28 дней назад
live audio is great example! For the lack of constant light issue, just get a small USB led light facing the screen from above or below towards the screen. problem solved.
@nebula0024
@nebula0024 28 дней назад
Perhaps as this technology advances even further, and if they can lower the price, these monitors could be useful in a well-lit office environment. It would certainly help to cut the cost of electricity, and ?possibly? reduce the need to replace faulty displays. I dunno, a lot of speculation at this point I suppose. At least they seem to have a good use case for outdoor signage, as you mentioned.
@misterhazelwood6311
@misterhazelwood6311 28 дней назад
What an interesting piece of technology. Nice video!
@djplonghead5403
@djplonghead5403 28 дней назад
I would love to see this in a hybrid system on a laptop. Have a regular backlight for when you are in a dark room but have this technology for if you are in a sunny cafe.
@arlo.infinity
@arlo.infinity 28 дней назад
Hmm.. What we need is mini-LED backlights where the LEDs are surrounded by mirrors. Would lose some filling factor by 2 or 3 but would still be f***ing bright in the 🌞! Even better would be micro-LED with a mirror-like layer directly deposited around the LED within the fab. A quick search shows people have already had success with deposition of highly reflective layers on silicon.
@cyruskuhn9410
@cyruskuhn9410 28 дней назад
As someone who is a high schooler who has lived in Florida my whole life, i can guarantee that the statement at 10:20 is not true, they fly off the shelves faster than that panel could even update a frame 😂
@LoftyCuber
@LoftyCuber 28 дней назад
I remember back in the days of netbooks being excited about displays by Pixel Qi. I really wanted to add one to my netbook to extend its battery life even further! This seems similar but Pixel Qi had a back light if you wanted it or you could turn the backlight off. A netbook with one of the brand new solid state drives and one of these screens was the ultimate portable computer!
@lavalamp6
@lavalamp6 28 дней назад
I used to have an Amazfit Bip watch that used a reflective screen like that, but also had a backlight when needed. looked amazing in the sun as an AOD
@UltraVegito-1995
@UltraVegito-1995 28 дней назад
*Beardless Linus hits differently*
@TheOfficialKiro67
@TheOfficialKiro67 28 дней назад
he looks younger this way, like back in his ncix days
@cyanidegaming69
@cyanidegaming69 28 дней назад
where did he hit you tho? on the aaah?
@yourfriendben2
@yourfriendben2 28 дней назад
I cant tell if a video is new or just an old one I've never seen now😂
@SunWarrior155
@SunWarrior155 28 дней назад
He looked like a hobo with the beard
@adityakhaprelap
@adityakhaprelap 28 дней назад
That's what his children say. (Jk)
@matheusode4427
@matheusode4427 28 дней назад
The joke at 10:20 caught me by surprise lol
@ARandomInternetUser08
@ARandomInternetUser08 28 дней назад
Yeah, because the channel is a joke after that. They've lost my support after that. THIS A TECH CHANNEL, NOT POLITICS.
@snoopadillo
@snoopadillo 27 дней назад
@@ARandomInternetUser08 cry about it lol
@matheusode4427
@matheusode4427 27 дней назад
@@ARandomInternetUser08 get mad lol
@ARandomInternetUser08
@ARandomInternetUser08 27 дней назад
@@matheusode4427 speak for yourself, lefty kid.
@boomerangfreak
@boomerangfreak 7 минут назад
This would be amazing on jobsite work laptops I feel. But maybe if possible with an optionable backlight. I bought a used thinkpad x280 as a light compact laptop to use on my laser engraver. Using it in my garage workshop where if you want proper light you have to open up the port to the point where I have to use max brightness in summer to be able to see something. And with the power saving of not having to run a backlight I wouldn't have to worry about possibly running out of battery on longer jobs/days
@madmax2069
@madmax2069 14 дней назад
Seeing that screen makes me think of the Nokia Lumia 1320 (yes windows phone) i use to own back in the day, it had a setting that if you used it outdoors in the sunlight it would adjust the display which which would allow you to easily see the screen in sunlight (how that display in the video looks in the sunlight reminds me of how the screen looked on that Nokia phone when it was in the sunlight). Ive not seen many phones with that capability.
@s980845
@s980845 28 дней назад
You should have tried that EInk display in direct sunlight.
@Lemoncit0
@Lemoncit0 28 дней назад
10ms is perfectly fine for 60Hz
@kendokaaa
@kendokaaa 28 дней назад
No it isn't, even at 60hz 10ms means visible smearing. You don't want high response times no matter the refresh rate
@Lemoncit0
@Lemoncit0 28 дней назад
@@kendokaaa obviously you are not gonna play competitively with a 60HZ display, for most games especially singleplayer ones 10ms 60hz is fine
@kendokaaa
@kendokaaa 28 дней назад
@@Lemoncit0 But it's not "fine", it's just usable
@hannahp642
@hannahp642 27 дней назад
@@kendokaaa Whether it's fine depends on the use case.
@deglor1660
@deglor1660 27 дней назад
My father had a surf and sailing school on the beach ,and it was a nightmare to read the calander or all the prenotation on a normal pc display. Pretty uncommon but i think he would love this
@genericusername5909
@genericusername5909 28 дней назад
That tech with backup side illumination on a simple toughbook for word and excel for summer work in the shade
@nomadicdragon7157
@nomadicdragon7157 28 дней назад
10:26 SHEESH 😂😂 (I like the thumbnail)
@deppe4202
@deppe4202 28 дней назад
This on a phone would be a banger. Always readable awesome battery life and doesn’t burn your eyes out at night.
@khazareek
@khazareek 28 дней назад
You're correct if only for the fact that you wouldn't see anything at all at night. There is no light whatsoever, whatever ambient lighting bounces off the walls of your room during the day would not be there at night.
@jumpierwolf
@jumpierwolf 28 дней назад
Yeah for sure man, it's pretty useable at night right after you turn on a really bright table lamp and point it directly at the phone. A lot easier to just use a regular phone with night mode and brightness turned down.
@Jourei_
@Jourei_ 28 дней назад
This, as an optional feature! Backlight turned on for the moments others commented.
@KARLOSPCgame
@KARLOSPCgame 28 дней назад
If this thing is in the backscreen of (for example) Samsung Fold would be golden, you could actually use a phone outside to watch a movie
@deppe4202
@deppe4202 28 дней назад
@@khazareek cant you build in like an smal backlight or like what the i ink display made. Also maybe then people would stop looking at their stupid phone all night
@iordanisiordanidis6395
@iordanisiordanidis6395 28 дней назад
Very useful for working in the field. Be it a testing ground for robotics, autonomous systems and unmanned vehicles to events and what not. Sure not for indoors but thats not the targetted use. Trying compare it for indoors is like saying how useless is a bright flashlight in a well lit room.
@johnathanmorlock
@johnathanmorlock 27 дней назад
Pretty neat. I can see this in dual-function monitors. Where it is a reflective display if the backlight is off so you can use a single monitor in light or dark situations.
@MsQueenOfDance
@MsQueenOfDance 28 дней назад
I love hearing previews for new vidoes on the WAN show. Luke's confusion was extremely funny
@Joris0815
@Joris0815 28 дней назад
The full saying is "The customer is always right, in matters of taste"
@downundarob
@downundarob 28 дней назад
8:55 - not quite, the full quote is "The customer is always right, in matters of taste,"
@R.K_Chalkboard
@R.K_Chalkboard 22 дня назад
I think this monitor would be great for cruises, airport displays, and restaurants(with windows). Any indoor public area would be really good for this thing.
@latech7671
@latech7671 28 дней назад
10:23 WOW, that was a politically charged joke I never thought I would have heard from Linus (except WAN-Show). But I love it 😂👍
@Jourei_
@Jourei_ 28 дней назад
Florida has been up to so many wacky things it's starting to lose the politic-ness and become a meme. :D
@oofcloof
@oofcloof 28 дней назад
@@Jourei_ If it was all libraries it would be wacky, but its only grade school libraries which seems reasonable to me - I don't think anyone would want their kids to check out a book with dildos or whatever in it without them knowing.
@krimmAnims
@krimmAnims 28 дней назад
@@oofcloofwha?? how is a book about homosexuality or gender instantly connected to sex in your mind? It could literally just be a story about someone figuring out who they are and how they feel… And they’d still burn it
@latech7671
@latech7671 28 дней назад
@@oofcloof I haven't looked too deep into it (since I am not affected by it) but I did come across the fact that Heartstopper (Book behind the Netflix Series) has been banned... ... and if that is eligible for bans then they should probably just ban most fictional books because most of them have some kind of love interest in them. What I find especially funny however is that the same people then argue that "the Bible" should be in those same libraries and while I do understand that it is more than a simple book for many, it still has all the content they are trying to sensor in it in a huge amount
@SlyNine
@SlyNine 28 дней назад
​@@krimmAnimsthose are books deprecating sex acts and alot of the ideas reach back to the Kentler experiment.
@KingofBuilders
@KingofBuilders 28 дней назад
6:08 "Since your eyes and your brain have GOD TIER auto white balance!" Then the perfect follow up example of shades of red (where your brain fills in white balance to the point of seeing blue tones in the water and sky! Dang, never thought about it before. Well exemplified team!
@therandomguy6979
@therandomguy6979 26 дней назад
Interesting monitor. Would love to see some light sensor implemented and a certain way to emit light when it gets dark
@Raizazel
@Raizazel 28 дней назад
I used to do some UAV flights and had to do some tweaking to the controllers and computer vision in the middle of nowhere with direct sunlight hitting the monitors. It was really hard to program under those conditions. I we had one of these (with a frontlight for cloudy conditions) it would have helped quite a lot. Most of the time we were running on portable batteries so having a monitor that is this energy efficient would have been a another plus.
@esotericbear9829
@esotericbear9829 28 дней назад
The full quote is, "The customer is always right *in matters of taste* "
@dayv6368
@dayv6368 28 дней назад
Andy's monitor light is finally justified
@matityahubermanfalk3127
@matityahubermanfalk3127 27 дней назад
I use a smart watch with a transreflective screen, the Amazfit Bip S. It also has its own lighting, so it's useable in either bright or dim situations. Sadly, later versions no longer have it, so I'm stuck using an older model.
@Nuihc88
@Nuihc88 27 дней назад
I also hope that there will be a video about Transflective LCD technology in the future. Eazeye Radiant is currently the newest and most thought out example of that technology.
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