My 66 GTO had the 428 H.O. engine with a 4 speed manual 12 bolt 4:10:1 posi. Original engine was swapped out. Best thing that ever happened. Outstanding performance & never a breakdown & good mileage when driven proper. Loved that car. Best one I ever had. Pontiac used to make some awesome rides. Too bad it's all gone.
You're absolutely right;This is basically the equivilant to a 67 SS427(not impala).It even has fender louvers to set it apart from other pontiacs.You have found a really cool example of the 2+2...This one has a 4spd. rare,rare,rare.
You sir are owning a piece of muscle car history that not many will ever understand to appreciate as the millennial generation has seen things where it is nothing but battery operated vehicles. This car is in great shape for it's age.
I found one of those in a used car lot, back when it was probably nine or ten years old, blue rag top, don't remember if it had the same rims, I talked my way into a test drive...man I wanted it.... but I was only 15 years old and I couldn't get dad onboard with the deal, think I remember they wanted three fifty $ for it, had some light whiskey dents but it was worth it. Never seen one in the wild sense. Nice car and hard to find 👍👌🏁
@@DezzysSpeedShop hey the guy let me test drive it, with him riding along of course, Man I wanted that Pontiac! But I didn't have enough money, ended up with a 67 390 mustang coupe about five years later 🏁
I remember an aunt that drove a Catalina with some honking V8. My uncle and Grandpa were checking it out. I was about 8. Me and Grandpa were impressed with the burnout.
I saw one of these recently at the Pontiacs at Pigeon Forge last month. Black w/black vinyl top, blue interior. Very rare. Thanks for sharing this one!
A young friend of mine dad had one navy blue back in the day,a 4 speed also and it could light em up. We knew back then that car was special because you hardly ever saw one.
I had a convertible version of this car, but in Canada our 2+2 was a sporty version on the Parisienne model. Our Canadian Pontiacs were built on Chevrolet chassis and drivetrains, and our 2+2s always had bucket seats, console, fender "gills" and "V8" fender emblems.
I had a Canadian Parisienne 2+2 with a 385 horse 427 automatic. This was ‘84. I bought it out of a snow bank in someone’s front lawn for &400.00 and took it home, cleaned it up and sold it for $800.00 Took 3 months to sell it even though I lived on a road close to a drag strip. At the time no one saw the value. The car was super solid, buckets, power windows posi and an air cleaner with a chrome lid and stubby 4” X 11” snorkel. Good working car that could really lay rubber down.
I have the Kelsey - Hayes on my 62 GranPrix expensive option for the day, and the cars were Originally known as Catalina 2+2s, Mom had a blue 65 that was a 421 w/2x4s and a 4spd. It Surprised quite a few youngsters when I was a kid.😉
You really appreciate how rare this car is when you break down the cost options...That $226 for the 4 speed is equal to about $2100 The 2 plus 2 option for $420 is about 4k today...the 428 option and aluminum rims for about $120 translate to $1200 each The power windows, console along with power steering for around $100 each would be a $1000 each today...totaling around 11K just in options and that isn't all of them just the big ones. We look at window stickers and see how cheap it was...but that car would be about 45K today with the 15K worth of options it would have had
Just beautiful, love those full-size GM muscle cars.Love the full gauge package, and where else do you see engine badges on the console AND the core support?! Excellent video, Dezzy, thanks.
Had a buddy buy one of these engines out of a wrecked car and puts it in a 55 Chevy talk about a cruiser that thing would run a hundred on the freeway all day long ! Never did find out the top speed got scary up around 125 but she was still pulling ! Haha
Some of the coolest wheels ever. integrated drum, I was acquainted with a guy who had a 2+2 convertible. He claimed the convertible was quicker because the folded down top added weight over the back wheels for better traction with skinny tires.
my aunt loved pontiacs she had a 2+2 with those rims with lugs next to tires instead of middle of rim , someone stole a rim off it and it took her a few months to find one she sold it because of rare rims but that car was great fast car it was maroon i wish i had it or her 65 gto
i am sixty six saw one when i was a kid a man down the road owned it . us kid's thought of it as a lead sled but little did we know what it was . beautiful car
4:25 I'm in Canada 😊 But I'm not old enough to have witnessed the uniquely Canadian Pontiacs of the 50s and 60s when they were new. Besides their Chevy frames and engines, they sure had some weird model names AND engine monikers. Astro Flash, Econo Flame, etc. I just read that early Parisiennes could even be ordered with the Corvette Ramjet fuel injection! I had a 63 Impala 2D HT project car in 99 and apparently up here they came with a stronger "Canadian" frame (possibly just a convertible frame?) Anyway, cool car!
Wow, this is one intelligent guy. He knows his shit! Refreshing, honestly. Love this survivor Catalina 2+2. Beauty. Whoever ordered it did a perfect job with the equipment. I might have ordered front disc brakes, but then you couldn't get those wheels. Maybe the Rally IIs were out? I don't know...
A Q Ship might be fun on a cruise . Definitely comfortable if your had one at work like highway patrol or You were Jackie Gleason you might catch Burt Reynolds. Smoky and the Bandit.
Your walk arounds are fun to watch. Good info too. We called this the fat fastback. That rear end looked fat, (wide), especially with those taillight's.
They made 428 for GTOs but here's the thing about it they were experimental motors. My brother got his hands on one back years ago when I was just a little kid He pinned it into a 68 Chevelle the car was an SS 396 red with the black stripe He stripped that car and painted it jet black put the 428 experimental motor down in there in place of the 396 Rumor has it my oldest brother without driving the car add a dual quad hemi cuda pulled up next to him They were getting it on pretty good from stoplight to stoplight I think my brother might have missed the shift or something about the plug wires one of the plug wires popped off at high RPM add the motor took a bearing spin But that is the factual it was an experimental 428 from the factory for the GTO
Thought you could still get the tri pack saw one the that had dual fours at a car show . They were beasts most individuals wanted the GTO . That car gets a full restoration it’s worth it . The prices of vehicles are down unless it is rare .
@@DezzysSpeedShop Yes your right the 66 Gto was the last year of the tri pack they had problems with the tri pack . Nice vehicle to drive anywhere when restored . The 4 speed and all the bells and whistles make that a nice car .
I had a 67 gp convertible with 8 lug wheels. Always new brake pads if you get one. I had a Volkswagen steel plate with 8 holes/ 5 in the center, to hold the rim so new tires could be put on it. Otherwise it had to be done with brute strength & greased leverage.
Nice vid Dez. You actually could get a GTO with this engine back then but few cared to because of the expense. They were " Royal Bobcat GTO's" with the 428. They had a limited production. But from the get (factory spec/optioned) no, you couldn't purchase this engine in the GTO.
@@DezzysSpeedShop Right! but tbh I get kinda sad because 81' on, Pontiac's were nothing more than reskined Chevys (82'-02' Trans Ams for ex). At least Olds still had their 307 for a while. Buick had their famed V6's (later turning into the Supercharged 3800). Great channel, I'll be watching in the future.
There was a 421 CID that had larger valves than 389. It think these heads are the same as the 428 H.O. Combustion chambers were the same size as the 389.
@@DezzysSpeedShop I AM NOT SURE MAY BE RU-vid THOUGHT IT WAS A STUPID Q. OR COMMENT BY MAX,,, ,, HA!!! PEACE BRO.. KEEP YOUR VIDEO'S COMING WE LOVE THEM..
My brother knows more about it than I do I was only like five at the time if you need more info I'll try to get ahold of him but yeah they did make 428 they were only in a couple of the GTOs
How interesting, how much money was worth it in those days Average median house price in US was about $20 grand and today is say $400 grand, which has gone up by 20 times in average. He basically paid a $100 grand of todays money and didn't hold back on all options. No wonder, wife could stay home raise 3-4 kids and dad could put a deposit on a house, support his family, when he came home roast lamb and cold beers was on the table, go on a regular summer family vacations and put the kids through a college.
I saw a 67 Bonneville 4 door convertible with a 428 6 barrel and it had AC, pw and all kinds of option although it was an auto, I've always liked sleepers.
The 428 and 421 were why Smokey Yunick quit Pontiac. They had 3.25 main bearing crankshafts. The parasitic loss was much more than the 3 inch main that Smokey disliked too. The Ford FEs had 2.75 mains and were the fastest inline valve wedges ever made.
