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We love four-wheel drifts, rally pedigree, and station-wagons that can embarrass supercars. That means we love Audi Quattro. But more than one AWD system bears that name, and those can be as different as Camrys and Koenigseggs. Today, we're gonna look at the current versions of Quattro. They’re all very different tools designed for very different jobs - and we’re gonna figure out how they work. Let's go!
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Комментарии : 2,9 тыс.   
@mikesvirtualgarage9917
@mikesvirtualgarage9917 2 года назад
The new cars are technological wonders, but its tough to top the feel of having lockable center and rear differentials in the gen 1 cars. So much fun in the snow!
@nicquintana1092
@nicquintana1092 2 года назад
Once again, not related to what you said (sorry Mike) but will there be any update on the STOCKY soon?
@vvv70v
@vvv70v 2 года назад
Must be amazing indeed
@tofu042
@tofu042 2 года назад
as a Gen 1 owner I can totally relate. Even putting the locks in is kind of archaic and pretty cool.
@josh8344
@josh8344 2 года назад
Locks only help in the true crap or under absurd power levels. I say torsen at every diff.
@tofu042
@tofu042 2 года назад
@@josh8344 I am not driving the car as a daily, so I prefer the archaic solution by far. Torsens are more comfortable and need no engagement, but as you already said kind of a compromise. Depends on what you prefer, I guess.
@bradleybates8803
@bradleybates8803 2 года назад
I've counted 39 times that you've said "quattro". You guys create great informative videos that anyone can watch. You cover the history of brands and models all over the world in up to speed and also the more complex engineering in cars breaking it down to a very simple and comical format. I've learnt alot through your videos and I hope to see you posting in years to come. Thank you soo much to everyone at Donut media!!! From Brad in Jolly Old England 🇬🇧
@nikolasmoralez6911
@nikolasmoralez6911 2 года назад
I agree, i have learned so much from these guys and they have help me figure the proper way to tune up my car.
@andrewireland9695
@andrewireland9695 2 года назад
Get this man his shirt !! Lol
@YoshiLover2012
@YoshiLover2012 2 года назад
I counted 38 ......
@damarfadlan9251
@damarfadlan9251 2 года назад
@@andrewireland9695 Audi shirt?
@damarfadlan9251
@damarfadlan9251 2 года назад
@@YoshiLover2012 or 44.
@noahmannion8711
@noahmannion8711 2 года назад
I'm so glad that Donut picked up Jeremiah, he's so funny and is just a fantastic host!
@wafi3187
@wafi3187 2 года назад
As a Audi Nerd I freaking love my old school mechanical torsen Quattro!! I even modded the center diff to have more power sent to rear when can.
@alberteinstein1438
@alberteinstein1438 6 месяцев назад
They are inclined to understeer a bit. That's what I dont like while driving. Rs and S series solved that problem.
@Veikra
@Veikra 4 месяца назад
@@alberteinstein1438 didnt you read. he modded the center diff. You can get 2 to 1 and 4 to 1 torsen center diff to counteract the understeer. Basically what audi did later, increasing rear power bias
@chartreux1532
@chartreux1532 2 года назад
Really happy you cover this! Being German and Audi Customer as well as having watched Gruppe B as a Kid together with my Dad (along with F1, DTM etc.) i have to admit, i didn't know what exactly the Differences between all these AWD Systems and always assumed they were all the same and i bet i'm not the only one! Prost & Cheers from the Berchtesgadener Land in the Bavarian Alps
@TheClutchPro
@TheClutchPro 2 года назад
quattro ist schön. Prost
@DanielFrost79
@DanielFrost79 2 года назад
All i knew was that the same word with a capital first letter does not always mean the same as the same word with a small first letter. This is fun to know. The more you know... 👍
@nicquintana1092
@nicquintana1092 2 года назад
Not related to the comment but I hope we get an update on the STOCKY soon
@kailencollier1443
@kailencollier1443 2 года назад
@GABRIELLA what
@damarfadlan9251
@damarfadlan9251 2 года назад
@@nicquintana1092 maybe 24hrs time dude.
@lushie1073
@lushie1073 2 года назад
You guys should do a top gear kind of series where you do a road trip with a category of cars. Some challenges and partying opportunities. Be fun to watch and tour around !
@randyreed3264
@randyreed3264 2 года назад
Could be sponsored by toro
@The_YammerHammer
@The_YammerHammer 2 года назад
I would definitely watch Nolan get sick again on a road trip
@samyoule
@samyoule 2 года назад
Gears and gasoline does that
@TheMitsuDude
@TheMitsuDude 2 года назад
Check out gears and gasoline or car trek
@jdsd744
@jdsd744 2 года назад
@@samyoule is the guys from donut? If not I want them to.
@kananbruce5512
@kananbruce5512 2 года назад
I counted 39 quattros in the video. I would like to thank yall for making learning about cars a fun experience for all ages and it not just being listening to someone talk for 3 hours as the build/just talk. It helps make everything easier,faster and better overall for everyone hell I started watching yall when I was 12/13 and still remember to this day some of the information I learned especially with the car I have now (2012 audi a5 premium)
@Papzishhh1
@Papzishhh1 7 месяцев назад
This is one of my most favorite shows to watch. Its so informative and well-researched. Big ups Jeremiah!!
@hokage_smoke
@hokage_smoke 2 года назад
I'm not really too into electric cars however I do like hearing about the new tech involved in different evs
@seanharrison6162
@seanharrison6162 2 года назад
If only they could put some of that money they put into electric stuff to alternative fuels
@hokage_smoke
@hokage_smoke 2 года назад
@Sean Harrison yeah alternative fuel seems like it would be a better option especially if it works for cars that are already on the road
@coleeto2
@coleeto2 2 года назад
@@hokage_smoke what type of alternative fuels are you interested in? Corn based biofuel is overall worse for the environment than regular gasoline/petrol even tho ethanol burns cleaner at the tail pipe. In the US it's effectively a weird corn subsidy. Hydrogen fuel cells will likely have their uses but generating green hydrogen will always be less efficient than charging a battery directly from the grid (ie higher operating costs for fuel cells so needs to be an application where energy density is critical) Synthetic fuels have been researched for a long time - I can see F1 switching to it. To actually make it carbon neutral it will always be more expensive than just charging a battery from a grid. I could see collectors wanting this as an option but it wouldn't be as viable for a daily driver due to costs.
@tomdecat4009
@tomdecat4009 2 года назад
@@coleeto2 then hopefully there will be a diverse community of ev and ice, ev for econo boxes and alt fuels for our ice cars👌
@chip43
@chip43 2 года назад
I would like to see how 4 wheel drive works on electric cars, especially when they have 2,3 or 4 motors.
@LeHazy
@LeHazy 2 года назад
I have a feeling that, if I understood the system correctly, and audi do a brilliant job with settings, quattro ultra *may* be on course to being insanely good.
@gpaull2
@gpaull2 2 года назад
So you’re the Greg that took my ultimate username! 😜. How’d you get it joining long after I did?!?!
@LeHazy
@LeHazy 2 года назад
@@gpaull2 believe it or not, I don't have that as a username! but rather as my youtube channel name.
@omarleon6691
@omarleon6691 2 года назад
@@gpaull2 just change ur name not username
@saimamerzougui7981
@saimamerzougui7981 2 года назад
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@tfl2226
@tfl2226 25 дней назад
It is very good
@Camilobakes
@Camilobakes 2 года назад
I really appreciate the graphics. You guys do great work !
@mobquet
@mobquet 2 года назад
I always dig your take on topics and enjoy the dive into the engineering of the topic while still being accessible and fun. a fine line to walk and you do it masterfully! I Watched the video a complete second time to verify the 39 times you said Quattro...I see what you did there ;)
@marksmith8698
@marksmith8698 2 года назад
I have a 2019 A5 Sportback, and I really like how you broke the 5 systems down. Great content and now I feel more educated about what I should expect out of my vehicle.
@nathansuss
@nathansuss 2 года назад
I would love to learn about the EV technology with each of the brands/manufacturers and how they compare to each other
@eriklarson9137
@eriklarson9137 2 года назад
EV sucks. Please do not cover it.
@wanderrice3345
@wanderrice3345 2 года назад
@@eriklarson9137 or idk do whatever because there are thousands of people who watch this channel and might want to see that
@DatPeteBoi
@DatPeteBoi 2 года назад
@@eriklarson9137 then you can ignore it, simple as that. There are many people out there who would love to learn more about automotive stuff than you do.
@JasKro
@JasKro 2 года назад
EV? No Thanks!!!
@alexandernoname6339
@alexandernoname6339 2 года назад
I like to hear about EV and think everyone crying about not wanting to hear about them could just ignore the videos about them, like I do with other videos Bout subjects I don't care for
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 2 года назад
I am still remembered the S1 Quattro from 1985. Man it was LEGEND.
@Erays_Adventures
@Erays_Adventures 7 месяцев назад
Good stuff and great video. Thanks!
@mandmwaddle
@mandmwaddle 2 года назад
The AWD system on our two highlander Hybrids works great. It uses an electric motor mounted on the rear axle and will send power to the wheels when required, like when starting from a stop, heavy acceleration, loss of traction. The battery being over the rear axle also gives it better weight distribution.
@josefsan8769
@josefsan8769 2 года назад
thats really cool never knew that.
@jwaj
@jwaj 2 года назад
Ok but why do you have two highlander hybrids
@Autoblox0
@Autoblox0 Год назад
@@jwaj it was a joke lolx quattro actually means 4WD/AWD so yeah
@TheMCD1989
@TheMCD1989 2 года назад
The EV stuff isn't really my jam but it is pretty interesting to hear about as it is the majority of the real cutting edge stuff out there now. That said, I know it isn't really donuts style, but it would be great to hear about the different EV companies on the market and how they got going, and what ones are up and coming. The reasoning is I think there are going to be some sleazy companies out there just hoping to seperate people from their money without ever really having a plan to produce a car, and at the same time some companies with great ideas struggling to get going. That EV truck company in bed with GM is the one that comes to mind for a scam company, but it would be good to inform people about the red flags because this is the thing that happens during these big shifts in science and production.
@franco155
@franco155 2 года назад
I also counted 39 too, I thought it was 38 This video was great. I got to learn about audi, their 4 wheel drive system and how great it sounds tho it honestly sounds kinda complex and expensive to fix, if it engaging and disconnecting a lot. But it still sounds so awesome! Thanks for teaching us something cool, MO POWA to my knowledge.
@jeremymedinaazpeitia8239
@jeremymedinaazpeitia8239 2 года назад
IVE BEEN WAITING MONTHS FOR THIS EPISODE FINALLY YESSSSS
@basilr1712
@basilr1712 2 года назад
I got 39, have been watching since before the Miata and you guys got me into cars. Love what you do, keep it up! #quattrocount
@Just_Joshing024
@Just_Joshing024 2 года назад
These bots, I swear to god. The replys to youtube comments are screwed.
@damarfadlan9251
@damarfadlan9251 2 года назад
@@Just_Joshing024 all websites love to let those lesbian bots roaming since youtube permanently disable dislike button.
@mpagirobin3805
@mpagirobin3805 2 года назад
The merch promos feel like watching Rick and Morty Inter-dimentional cable Ads. Hilarious.
@BocaAtractivo82
@BocaAtractivo82 2 года назад
you got em all on point and made me giggle and snicker =P. I absolutely LOVE drifting my 4M Q7 - especially last night because of the snow dump in my local
@somewhat7
@somewhat7 2 года назад
3:38 SLAYED me. Also, yeah, dive into some 'lectric tech too!
@JDLViper777
@JDLViper777 2 года назад
I counted 38 quattro's. And Yes, please continue making B2B's on everything EV's! Hey, that kinda rhymes. Keep up the great work! You Guys are Awesome!!!
@smoothbraindetainer
@smoothbraindetainer 2 года назад
It's 39 now giv shirt donut pls
@jojoking4
@jojoking4 2 года назад
@@smoothbraindetainer its def 40
@Luceq
@Luceq 2 года назад
EVs are cool now
@smoothbraindetainer
@smoothbraindetainer 2 года назад
@@jojoking4 I literally did a count on the subtitles, it's 39
@donovanhuerta6116
@donovanhuerta6116 2 года назад
Love your content donut, I always learn so much whenever I watch these vids :)
@ericbufkin3622
@ericbufkin3622 2 года назад
39 awesome Quattro utterances. Love the channel. My kid has seen just about every episode of Up to Speed.
@shaggyshaggadellic1955
@shaggyshaggadellic1955 2 года назад
3:39 is the best I've seen on that joke! Nonstop laughter! Thank you!!
@IlkoAmbarev
@IlkoAmbarev 2 года назад
Having more EV explanations is going to be quite educational and fun as these systems are completely new and having a funny, reliable resource, especially at your size is going to help educate a lot of people and used to disspell rumours perpetuated by people just being flat-out ignorant because they don't like the idea of a quiet car. #quattrocount 39.
@cywilsey2273
@cywilsey2273 2 года назад
I got 39 Quattros. Love the great content you guys are producing.
@gamersplaygroundliquidm3th526
@gamersplaygroundliquidm3th526 2 года назад
Used to pull the front drive shaft out of my 96 Grand Cherokee Limited cause it had that stupid all time all wheel drive it would chew through gas when it was working. As a teen this wasnt great for me so pulling the front shaft out helped me save alot in the warmer months.
@SupraSav
@SupraSav 2 года назад
Editor needs a raise. Not into EV's, but love hearing about new tech, and I'd still watch that Donut video.
@Ncd9988
@Ncd9988 2 года назад
I've got a '18 A4 Allroad and I thought the car would feel very FWD with the Quattro Ultra but really does feel like an AWD on drifts and corners, rear kicks great and the launch is amazing as well.
@popsiclesbutlikeanancientg59
@popsiclesbutlikeanancientg59 2 года назад
I want MORE ELECTRIC stuff. Its the future of auto, innovation is only getting better and more exciting. Would love to see breakdowns on its tech from your engineering background, in a video format similar to this and torque vectoring ep. much love to Donut from East Coast
@CoachVicTheLandInvestor
@CoachVicTheLandInvestor 2 года назад
agreed.
@zakyrath
@zakyrath 2 года назад
its actual retro future the first electric car's came before gasoline engines. 1832 was the first ev and 1890 was the first one built in the US. so the tech is actually over 200 years old.
@popsiclesbutlikeanancientg59
@popsiclesbutlikeanancientg59 2 года назад
@Zaky Rath that’s awesome I had no idea, DONUT, this comment right here^
@taylortremblas8783
@taylortremblas8783 2 года назад
Counted 38. Was excited when I saw this episode because I drive a RS4 so any Audi episode y’all do it fun for me.
@Mish3ab999
@Mish3ab999 2 года назад
An episode about 4wheel traction systems in electric cars would be fantastic. Ideally it would cover off-road technology equivalents like how electric vehicles can more easily replicate locked differentials and off-road traction. Excellent content. Really enjoying it.
@Stives1125
@Stives1125 2 года назад
I counted 39 times. Love how detailed and informative your episodes always are.
@ChasingTenths
@ChasingTenths 2 года назад
Thanks for appreciating the Quattro. I have a straight 5 cylinder Audi 80 And the sound is sublime.
@JustinBone
@JustinBone 2 года назад
I have a TT RS. A bastard child with Haldex as some would say, but the 5 cylinder is absolutely sublime as you say.
@ChasingTenths
@ChasingTenths 2 года назад
@@JustinBone absolutely mate, totally agree
@ghadturner5645
@ghadturner5645 2 года назад
I counted 37 Quattros in this episode. You guys are awesome! Keep up the good work.
@Asorrell5200
@Asorrell5200 2 года назад
Counted 39 times dude. You rock. Love b2b, keep it up Jeremiah.
@RayanM50B25
@RayanM50B25 2 года назад
Quattro means 4 I literally know what it means bruh💀
@duomaxwell5807
@duomaxwell5807 2 года назад
Like duhhhh....🤦🏾‍♂️
@alryzhanrasyabena
@alryzhanrasyabena 2 года назад
It's 4 speed 💀
@tractorman5815
@tractorman5815 2 года назад
Lol
@kedarkulkarni3030
@kedarkulkarni3030 2 года назад
Noledge 🔥
@OJKfin
@OJKfin 2 года назад
Yeah I thought it too
@Yashuop
@Yashuop 2 года назад
Your consistency and quality of content never disappoints!
@anynonymous1585
@anynonymous1585 2 года назад
Den Mund halten
@stanxedbeast2438
@stanxedbeast2438 2 года назад
@@anynonymous1585 Bruh selber 😂
@nepzski
@nepzski 2 года назад
bot 💀
@purplesnot4162
@purplesnot4162 2 года назад
Bot
@noobonthetube
@noobonthetube 2 года назад
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@csamby1694
@csamby1694 2 года назад
Good video I have had a cupllA4 15 plat 17 plat never get stuck in the Snow But i had a oid 90 and it woos really phenomenal and woos even go off-road Depending on the ground clearance I could to really well to it woos a an awesome car
@mechengineeringproblems
@mechengineeringproblems 2 года назад
I counted 39. only a month late.. lol. I think your videos are awesome! Keep them up. Subscribers fixing cars is so informative!
@Mouwcat
@Mouwcat 2 года назад
I'm all about some new B2Bs on EV Tech always exciting to seeing what's bleeding edge
@robertfullard5646
@robertfullard5646 2 года назад
#quattrocount 39. Love and loathe that you made me watch it again to find that out. I'd be very very interested in more electric car stuff. Especially about that Quattro EV you mentioned first!
@SauceMan48
@SauceMan48 2 года назад
39 Quattros. And Donut media is awesome. Thanks for the great content over the years.
@thesaluman
@thesaluman 2 года назад
Counted 39 Quattro's - Loved they episode. I worked for Audi briefly and learned more in this episode about the AWD configs. Great inomation. Love the Channel #DonutMedia #QuattroCount
@sandozdelysid
@sandozdelysid 2 года назад
Great episode! I feel like You left out the origen story of the FF system that gave rise to quattro. This supid long jensen interceptor with a "Ferguson Formula" central transfer case that was first invented by the tractor company. And it had abs. 60/40 f/r power distribution through a multi clutch pack. Pioneering. As long as a station wagon.
@13zoreck
@13zoreck 2 года назад
I too counted 39 times, that's probably close to the number my A6 Avant pulled me out of the snow this year :D, even if its ultra, it does the job pretty well, and i use it as a daily, so i don't need the max performance all the time, especially when im in traffic. Btw awesome episode on how the sistem works, learned some good stuff today. Cheers!
@juanandresgutierrez3559
@juanandresgutierrez3559 Месяц назад
Finally, someone who can actually explain this right... well done!
@SethDavis96
@SethDavis96 2 года назад
Would love to see you guys do a piece on the switchover between gas and electric vehicles. From gas stations to how you will do maintenance.
@soxxks
@soxxks 2 года назад
I barely know anything about cars but Donut makes amazing videos. Love the visuals/animations
@oreocarlton3343
@oreocarlton3343 2 года назад
Good sense of humor as well...for an American.
@Lockheed7
@Lockheed7 2 года назад
As someone who is working at a company which supplies eAxles, I would love to watch an episode about the EV platforms with eTrains or even about PHEV platforms. I know it is not as interesting as combustion cars, but their design is also interesting in their own way.
@torrentzsurfer88
@torrentzsurfer88 2 года назад
38 quattro!! Great channel, thanks Donut.
@theodorolivermyhr7704
@theodorolivermyhr7704 2 года назад
I counted 39 quattros in the hole episode!:) Love your stuff!! I would love an episode off the EV🙏🙌
@xbluenovax369
@xbluenovax369 2 года назад
#quattrocount 39. Always love watching your guys videos on the daily. You guys teach me so much stuff I can use as a starting out mechanic
@jacobstephens5564
@jacobstephens5564 2 года назад
I counted 38
@KorvidRavenscraft
@KorvidRavenscraft 2 года назад
Thank you for this. I wanna put a quattro system on a vw caddy, and this helps me determine which version I'm looking for
@96ej
@96ej 2 года назад
A local guy grafted a Volkswagen Caddy body onto B6 A4. It's pretty rad
@KorvidRavenscraft
@KorvidRavenscraft 2 года назад
@@96ej that *is* rad. I want to do a tube chassis and put a carbon fiber body on it, my idea is if rocket bunny had a love child with a class B quattro
@cheoter
@cheoter 2 года назад
I counted 39 times!!! Great video please keep them coming 🤙🏽
@umamaheswarichandran1959
@umamaheswarichandran1959 2 года назад
Very good episode very good explanation
@bruhnt5063
@bruhnt5063 2 года назад
Day 298 of asking Donut to bring old B2B back
@garrygank163
@garrygank163 2 года назад
Id be happy to see a video on the awd systems EV's use
@lachlanambrogio2119
@lachlanambrogio2119 2 года назад
39 gimmie that good good donut merch. Also cheers Jeremiah the videos always are crazy easy to understand and I’ve used a couple to help me revise for school engineering exams so cheers.
@christianb.4385
@christianb.4385 2 года назад
Great video Donut Media, making it easy to understand and fun to watch. I now know why auto journo's describe Quattro in different Audi cars as having its own behavior; i.e. the R8 behaves differently than the RS6 but both have Quattro.
@THR2000
@THR2000 2 года назад
I counted 39 times that you said quattro. I would love to see more content on electric cars and I don't see why people feel like they have to prove that gas is better.
@linushoffmann
@linushoffmann 2 года назад
Great video 👍 As a video idea, you could move the brands tuning labels comparison e.g. Audi =ABT Mercedes=Amg... and where you get the best tuning for the least money. Kind regards from Switzerland 🇨🇭
@thomaskirst9095
@thomaskirst9095 10 месяцев назад
This was fantastic.
@tchelaumm
@tchelaumm 2 года назад
39 quatro! Great piece of content!
@mihaialexandrupetre6736
@mihaialexandrupetre6736 2 года назад
I owned an A6 avant quattro. it was an '06 with permanent AWD. I never thought they made different systems later. terrible fuel economy like Jerry said but best winter car ever (safe and fun drifts)
@saibamoe
@saibamoe 2 года назад
Must have been fun on our amazing quality roads in Romania, right? You can just FEEL the driving sensation on our smooth as clean cut marble roads
@mihaialexandrupetre6736
@mihaialexandrupetre6736 2 года назад
​@@saibamoe I don't know, I live in North America
@williamcoburn4486
@williamcoburn4486 2 года назад
I like EV stuff and can’t wait till we get to modify them more
@falcongamer5867
@falcongamer5867 2 года назад
Me on my way to swap out the electric motors for a raging V10 after all first world governments ban the use of gas cars
@darkspeed62
@darkspeed62 7 месяцев назад
This isn't a video about EV. What an out of place comment. Did you even watch the video?
@kimolas
@kimolas 6 месяцев назад
​@@darkspeed62they literally asked if we'd like more EV videos. You're the one who didn't watch
@samuelhaforsson3626
@samuelhaforsson3626 2 года назад
I love the vids keep it up , also I have a sq5 it is lit
@tylermascudy9086
@tylermascudy9086 2 года назад
You said "quattro" 39 times. Have you considered making an update episode on Lykan, now that it's getting a lot more attention on the social media, like videos of lykan whips driving and accelerating. P.S. I still haven't seen any video in which the claimed power of the cars have been unleashed :)
@Elidiot999
@Elidiot999 2 года назад
#quattrocount I counted 29 quattros in the whole episode! I actually thought about the quad-engine all-wheel-drive system of the rivian r1t today, I would love an episode on ev- awd systems! That's probably the most exciting engineering aspect in evs!
@CloudyCub285
@CloudyCub285 2 года назад
so basically Bumper to Bumper has the most unique "your mom" jokes on the internet i'm not mad or offended... colour me impressed
@CristianDuartes
@CristianDuartes 2 года назад
I enjoy a lot every video with Jeremiah, best engineer on RU-vid (side-by-side with Engineer Explained).
@MichaelOSande
@MichaelOSande 2 года назад
I've been watching Donut Media content unsubscribed, this is the video that got me fully on board and hungry for more content, this was a special one to me👍🏼
@calholli
@calholli 2 года назад
I can't believe you guys are still sleeping on the Acura sh-AWD system. smh. It literally has planetary gears in each axle to PUSH the outer wheel even faster than 100% of the other wheels, while cornering; the opposite of the 'brake vectoring' system. It's awesome.
@dysastro5362
@dysastro5362 2 года назад
oh, well now they HAVE to do a b2b on it. this shits cool as hell!
@jsquared1013
@jsquared1013 2 года назад
That depends which system you're talking about. The sport-oriented SH-AWD that was in stuff like the RL, used a rear diff with a taller drive ratio than the front diff, so when the Haldex-like system engaged the rear axle, they were able to get more than the usual 50/50 max rear split of a typical Haldex setup (I forget if it was 70/30 or 60/40, but the slightly taller ratio resulted in the rear axle being "overdriven" compared to the front).
@calholli
@calholli 2 года назад
@@jsquared1013 Well, that's how the new VW's are, with the fixed overdriven gear ratio in the rear-- they just did a video on it not too long ago. But the SH-AWD systems have a planetary gear set-- so it can run at the normal 'matching gear ratio of the other wheels-- AND it can also shift into the "taller" gearing, as you're saying-- But it can do it independently: left and right/ and can do it on command; computer actuated. So it can shift from low to hi in the rear, and has the clutch pack on each side also, just like the quattro. So it chooses which wheel gets the power with the clutches, and then chooses which wheel can be over driven. But I think it's only based on cornering (it drives the outside rear wheel faster, to push the car on around the corner better-- rather than using the brake on the inside tire, like most systems)-- but I'm sure they could lock them both and overdrive the entire rear with some little software changes.
@jg8263
@jg8263 2 года назад
Given the torque splitting benefits torsen diffs provide, I always thought it would be sensible to use center and rear (heck maybe even front) torsen diffs in mid-sized trucks, as it would be superior to open diffs (or lsd's) and less complex than lockers, while meeting the modest off road needs that most mid-sized truck owners have. Those that need more could do lockers aftermarket, like all the Tacoma owners do anyhow. Torsen rears would be hugely beneficial on snow/ice vs open or limited slip for sure.
@gnashmelllow
@gnashmelllow 2 года назад
Except one crucial area where torsen differentials do not work, which would affect trucks: when one tire is in the air a torsen acts like an open differential. They are great for soft roading, but proper off-roading they are terrible.
@jg8263
@jg8263 2 года назад
@@gnashmelllow true, however given the fact that (per a survey of 250k truck owners by Strategic Vision in 2019) over 70% of respondents stated they never or rarely off road, my point that this should be the default option (vs open diffs which are the current default) as it is superior in normal, soft road, and winter conditions (and those that need more capability can factory option or aftermarket some lockers) holds true. The majority of trucks never lift a wheel, which is why ford, chevy, ram, etc don't have lockers or lsd's by default, and you need to option them (fx4, z71, etc package). Perhaps you are one of the 30% that needs or wants more capability than torsen or lsd's can provide, and that is awesome, glad you have such fun with yours, but saying that a superior (to open diffs and limited slips) system should not be used due to one very specific limitation that does not affect the majority of users is a bit unusual. Open diffs just should not be widely used in the modern world, limited slip or torsen make much more sense as a standard option, with lockers available beyond that. Engineering Explained did a great job of breaking down why on his channel a couple of years back.
@jg8263
@jg8263 2 года назад
I should also add that this specific limitation with a lifted wheel is easily overcome by lightly pressing the brake, which places load on the lifted wheel (and the others of course) a technique used with open diffs for decades as well but to lesser effect as they don't torque multiply. The torque multiplying of the torsen then provide 3 to 4 times the amount of torque generated by braking to the other wheel, overcoming the light braking. Additionally, modern trucks all have computer controlled braking of individual tires (the traction and stability control systems do it automatically) on detection of slip. So lift a wheel in a modern truck with a torsen, it automatically brakes the lifted wheel only and torsen does the rest.
@gnashmelllow
@gnashmelllow 2 года назад
@@jg8263 I misunderstood, I thought you mean in place of the optional clutch type LSD or E lockers. I agree open diffs on RWD is the dumbest thing, and should not be a thing. But manufacturers gonna keep having those pesky accountants prevent the engineers from making things the way the should be.
@jg8263
@jg8263 2 года назад
@@gnashmelllow no worries, it allows for extra discussion!
@sasanheidari6948
@sasanheidari6948 2 года назад
Finally my favorite topic
@r4z0r84
@r4z0r84 Год назад
had no idea my car had all this tech in it lol awesome!
@JustinBone
@JustinBone 2 года назад
I’ve driven many, many Audi cars. I even worked at a dealer. My favorite Audis are from the ‘08-‘16 era when you could still get a lot of them available as a manual. Being an Audi/VAG enthusiast I get flack for this, but I actually prefer the quattro system in my ‘12 TT RS to some of the longitudinal set ups. I had a V8 S5 and found that the real world difference even in harsh driving conditions is negligible with Gen4, or newer, Haldex. The Haldex system can also be tuned and adjusted pretty easily on Gen4 and newer systems, if you’re into that.
@mommaduck79
@mommaduck79 9 месяцев назад
Hey. Im planning to get an mk3/8S TTS in the near future, and was wondering whether you could tell me if programming a 'locked 50/50' haldex mode is viable? Obviously, you would not want to drive around with it like this everywhere for fuel economy reasons - but I was wondering if you know whether it puts significant stress on the haldex coupling? It seems strange to think that it may cause clutch wear or high temperatures because I am under the impression that the pump is always running. To then use that fluid pressure to keep the coupling locked would seem like less stress than constantly varying 100-51% power to the front - since there is varying amount of slip present inbetween that range - whereas if it was 'locked' then the clutch should never experience slip because the clamping force of the haldex pump should be preventing that, right? Or is the haldex not supposed to run perminantly liek this? How is your TT RS? Still enjoying it, i hope?!
@JustinBone
@JustinBone 9 месяцев назад
@@mommaduck79 With 8S being Gen5 Haldex I think it’s pretty simple, I believe it can be flashed through the OBD-2 port like an ECU/TCU tune. Some tunes might even include it. There will be a small bit to fuel economy, but our cars are moderately efficient. Most I’ve heard have reported 0-2 MPG difference with it fully engaged. As far as wear I haven’t heard of anyone wearing through the Haldex clutch pack any faster; including people who track the car and commute. Though I’d be inclined to do a Haldex fluid change a bit more frequently, maybe every 15-20k miles instead of 30-40k, just to be safe. I believe unless you’re putting down an astounding amount of torque and drag racing/launching the car, the Haldex will have no additional wear to worry about. Both front and rear diffs are open and power will always be wasted to the path of least resistance anyways; I imagine that would happen before any slipping of the Haldex really happens regardless. The TT RS is going great. My favorite Audi I’ve ever owned. Can’t go wrong with a 2.5T and 6-speed manual 😁
@alberteinstein1438
@alberteinstein1438 6 месяцев назад
Audi TT models are front-wheel biased afaik. RS ans S quattros which have torque vectoring are better at sportive driving dynamics.
@mommaduck79
@mommaduck79 6 месяцев назад
@@alberteinstein1438 it’s not front-biased in the way you’re thinking, it’s part-time AWD and can choose to send 100-51% of power to the front axle, however once the Haldex system locks then power is evenly distributed. Using XDS, power can be diverted to whichever wheel the car wants to send it to (not in a perfect way, but it does vector torque where it wants it to be - whether that be front or rear).
@JustinBone
@JustinBone 6 месяцев назад
@@alberteinstein1438 The '12 TT RS I mentioned does NOT have torque vectoring, it's Gen 4 Haldex. That being said it's still pretty good for a Haldex system.
@jacksonbf
@jacksonbf 2 года назад
I counted 39 Quattros! love the content and i know my nephew would love a shirt, was planning on buying him one anyways. #quattrocount
@stevenway7449
@stevenway7449 2 года назад
I counted 38 Quattro in the episode. Loving the videos.
@cjcruz13
@cjcruz13 2 года назад
Agreed with Mike, you said Quatro 39 times 😂. But more important, is you sharing you knowledge. Thanks
@truemenimprovedaily
@truemenimprovedaily 2 года назад
WOW! It’s almost like Audi reached out to you guys to explain their systems to their less….well sophisticated clientele
@m.a.ramirez1297
@m.a.ramirez1297 2 года назад
It’s awesome to see the quality of these videos improve from the camerawork, editing, writing, etc. ever since 4+ years ago. Thank you for amazing content Donut!!
@faheembutt1859
@faheembutt1859 2 года назад
Bro 3 bots in a row? How?
@xoddam3873
@xoddam3873 2 года назад
Makes me proud to have my 2.0T A4 :)
@scottb7115
@scottb7115 2 года назад
I got a 07 A8L, it’s nice to get an idea of what’s in it
@coleeto2
@coleeto2 2 года назад
Keep the EV content coming, the industry is just kicking off there's a ton of cool stuff to talk about
@zakyrath
@zakyrath 2 года назад
not really, Ev's been around longer then combustion first ev was built in 1832. Till energy density issues are solved its just a gimmick. Tho can't solve the issue without putting more tech and money into it. So we are getting closer to it being able to replace combustion but probably still 50 years away from that unless we find a better energy storage solution/ creation method.
@coleeto2
@coleeto2 2 года назад
@@zakyrath EV's have had less R&D since cars were invented so there is more opportunity for people to do cool stuff with them now (that the first EV existed before the first ICE isn't relevant to today's industry). Energy density is fine as is for the vast majority of use cases. There already exist (in labs) a ton of improvements to battery density and charge speed - the challenge will be scaling those new technologies up to mass production. Instant torque is also super fun - and you don't need fossil fuel exports from countries led by a war criminal
@zakyrath
@zakyrath 2 года назад
@@coleeto2 I'd say they've had more R&D then ice since its just a electric motor using the same design principles used in all wheel vehicles. Its the batteries and computer control systems that are really making its strides toward an EV future. Ive seen some videos about those new batteries and can't wait till it trickles into the consumer electronic markets. Only having to charge your phone once a week sounds awesome. The instant torque reminds me of the old steam cars. Jay leno has a awesome video of one that makes 1000lbs. I mean we could of just made our own fossil fuel and sold and bought from our allies instead of shutting down our industry prematurely and having to support that asshole. Its tit for tat tho not like common sense is possible for a politician. Hopefully in the future we can wave at each in our overclocked ev's !
@fernandog4009
@fernandog4009 2 года назад
Yawn. Even though I’ve got a model 3 performance lol
@calebhudson3156
@calebhudson3156 2 года назад
No
@ILOVEBACONBOY2018
@ILOVEBACONBOY2018 2 года назад
As long as it works for more than 50,000 miles before breaking..
@Max-kk1wf
@Max-kk1wf 2 года назад
Im not into EV but it is always interesting to see how things work. Especially in the Donut infotainment package
@darkspeed62
@darkspeed62 7 месяцев назад
This video isn't about EVS
@memes4themasses365
@memes4themasses365 2 года назад
Yes!,More Audi videos plz
@jjhoops023
@jjhoops023 2 года назад
My god these systems are complicated! I'm sure they work wonders for what they're designed for, but I do not envy the mechanics who need to diagnose and fix them when they go bad. And I definitely don't envy the wallets of people who have to pay for those repairs lol
@frankthechemist
@frankthechemist 2 года назад
Bought a used Audi once, I will not do that mistake again for the exact reason you mention : maintenance nightmare! (which is true for all luxury european cars)
@austinwolfe7295
@austinwolfe7295 2 года назад
@Francois St-Pierre I couldn't agree more. There is a reason why you pick them up usef for cheaper than something like a Ford escape or even a Rav 4 which has next to zero options comparatively. Same year, mileage, everything. They don't hold value because they know they're reaching the end of usable life without dumping copious amounts of money into them.
@MrMrMrMrMrT
@MrMrMrMrMrT 2 года назад
This is exactly the reason why I prefer EV AWD :) All you need is 4 motors, geared down appropriately. Voilá, arbitrary handling unlocked with minimum weight and wear parts
@zainb2261
@zainb2261 2 года назад
@@frankthechemist had an 07 335 coupe and only had 1 major repair in about 80k km’s. Needed a new rad. Was about 500$ cdn. The 15 Audi s3 I’m driving now is still on warranty and I’ve had more major repairs that have been covered. I honestly preferred the bimmer but the Audis not bad if you got that warranty and a dealership that doesn’t really care about engine mods.
@Pictoru2
@Pictoru2 2 года назад
Oh man, this is so freaking advanced and cool......aaaand will make these cars absolutely worthless when the manufacturers will stop supporting all of the software needed to diagnose and fix all of these systems/subsystems. Same for the mighty ev-s. We're approching the 'car as a service' future increeeedibly fast. We better get extra good at recycling old cars or we' ll absolutely drown in junk in the not so distant future...
@ashwinbalu
@ashwinbalu 2 года назад
A episode on modern Quattro sounds good 👍
@Subieghost
@Subieghost Год назад
3:38 that literally made me spit my drink out lmfao
@LVGary
@LVGary 2 года назад
I personally like EV stuff. Especially now, as more affordable and newer systems come about I’m super interested to see how the aftermarket and tuning is gonna work for it.
@darkspeed62
@darkspeed62 7 месяцев назад
This isn't a video about EV, stop trying to make it about EV. They're shit.
@jamessizemore7103
@jamessizemore7103 2 года назад
EV stuff is sick! I wanna learn all about it. Please do a video explaining how to give hp ratings to electric motors
@javieg160
@javieg160 2 года назад
Please dont
@falcongamer5867
@falcongamer5867 2 года назад
@@javieg160 i don't like EVs but getting to know how things work is always good
@bazalover1233
@bazalover1233 2 года назад
whoever edited this needs a raise rn
@coreymegran6332
@coreymegran6332 2 года назад
Great to see Junk Car Jimmy make an appearance. That’s one of my favorite merch pushes.
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