@@juliesantos705yeah well obviously the tourists weren't understanding a printed sign or a verbal command so they went back to universal DO NOT signs. Childish or not it gets the message across.
The horse had to say enough is enough to the ignorant tourist! The horse felt the crowd closing in and knew. Shame on the officers for letting a crowd get so close.
About time. I am a horse person from Texas👍🏻 I just cannot stand to see them get pawed. Especially these high strung beautifully trained horses. I know people have various thoughts on this, but I hate it for them. Tourists just do not understand because they have no experience with them. People get excited to simply touch such magnificent creatures.
And there lies the heart of the problem They have no regard or consideration for the military personnel… the public … the motorists … or anyone else … not least the entitled attitude and aggression
The amount of people in front of the gate and horses needs to be a lot less. I get why the horses get agitated, TOO MANY PEOPLE!! There should be a way to control the mob!!
No accountability, no common sense. We have zero accountability in most countries now so it's a free for all. Civilization can only exist when the rules laid down are held up and people are held accountable for their entitled attitudes.
Two of my favourite Mod, male officers doing crowd control. One black, the other left foot, left hand gunslinger. For those who don't read or understand English, that new "visual" sign should keep hands off horses. Well done.
Good god .. this many hands used to maul away.. no wonder some 3 horses i’ve seen were gone insane & started biting everyone.. just looking at this infestation of locusts is making me go crazy
Is the tourists money that important to the British economy? They are allowed to overtake every inch of land they stand on. Walking in the streets, causing visiting members of the military to walk shoulder to shoulder in a crowd of people, invading spaces where they don't belong and showing no respect for established rules. If I were a VIP I would fear for my safety in this environment. This is a circus! 🎪
They're waiting to get in. If the Army hadn't got it so badly wrong and kept the horses on the pavement and then closed half the pavement there would never have been a problem.
This is getting out of hand with tourists,blocking the sidewalk,people having to walk in the street,swarming the horses. I personally think they need to rope off the area and no more photos
@@John-G Yes most know it’s a public pavement, but people wanting just walk past can’t as it’s too crowded so they have to walk on the road, with the traffic - and that’s definitely not safe. What the answer is, I don’t know. But there’s no room for people to walk on the public pavement, which it’s basically intended for.
@@bernadettelanders7306 There's actually plenty of room to walk on the pavement, but unfortunately on this occasion the Army and the MoD Police got it very badly wrong and caused the problem, which could and should have been very easily avoided. Horseguards is MoD property, but Horseguards Passage, connecting the Mall and St James', is a public right of way during the day although the MoD can close it on certain occasions such as the Trooping the Colour every year and for the daily guard mount, 4 o'clock parade and dismount, and the hourly changeovers. It's not just used by tourists but by local people as well - you can walk, run, or push a bicycle through and plenty do, particularly going to the Park for lunch. When I was at school (the City of London) we used to run through every day when training for the seven bridges so I know it very well indeed. On this occasion there was a meeting involving senior foreign officers at HQ London District, IIRC to confirm details for Remembrance Day at the Cenotaph (you can see them leaving near the end of the video) so for security reasons the Courtyard and Passage were closed so inevitably there was a build-up of people waiting to go through (tourists and locals). Normally it's not a problem when this happens as the whole width of the pavement is ample - the horses are simply backed into the boxes, off the pavement, and the hourly changeover is either early or delayed if necessary so the pavement is never restricted (apart from for a minute or two when the cars drive in and out). This time they simply got it very badly wrong and the sentries not only remained forward of the boxes, on the pavement so everyone had to walk round them but, unbelievably, they carried on with the hourly changeover just a couple of minutes before the meeting ended, so half the pavement was closed and the MoD Police pushed people back and into the road. Mind-numbingly incompetent. My guess is that the meeting went on a few minutes longer than planned, so overlapping with the hourly changeover, and as it was a Short Guard (the King wasn't in London) there was only an NCO in charge and he didn't have the initiative to delay the changeover by two minutes which would have stopped the problem happening. Just a total lack of planning and initiative by the military, leaving the MoD Police totally out of their depth, and chaos where it was lucky nobody was hurt. The Army simply got it wrong and caused the problem, when avoiding it should have been simple. Easily avoidable - inexcusable and incompetent (and I'm ashamed to say I'm ex-Army).
If one of those horses spooked, there might be a dangerous situation! As it was, one horse did get agitated and left the guard house and the people still didnt move! And they were laughing! Unbelievable! That guard must have been terrified!
See I told you People in Charge you need more help for the Horse guards as well as the standing guards!! People of today have NO REGARD for Police or Customs in this world today! DO THE RIGHT THING, GIVE MORE HELP!!!
They should put it up both sides of the horse. The horse covers it from the one side. They will ignore the sign after a few days like they ignore the old one.
Auch wenn die Pferde jetzt nicht mehr so oft betatscht werden,dürfen die Menschen viel zu dicht an den Pferden stehen..ohne Absperrung wird sich nichts ändern...die Polizei müsste viel strenger sein.
I wouldn’t stand in a crowd like that for anything. I’m not a gawker. It’s amazing watching people interact with life. And it’s not always a pleasing picture that I witness. I have learned a lot. And yet I know I shouldn’t base my understanding and judgement of people solely through this window of RU-vid. Wait! I’m a gawker of gawkers!
Please put barriers around the people. Do you not need to touch the horse or the guard? Put barriers around them and keep the gates closed. Please, I'm helping out the horses.
@seanbumstead1250 barriers would be dangerous for the horses and guards, if the horse spooks and comes out of its box it could be injured on a barrier.. I and many other are always putting this across
It seems to get worse every day with these tourists, it’s a human zoo and really wonder who the animals are here,maybe soon they will restrict visiting horse guards all together. Or perhaps start charging a fee to these people, for sure there will be less conglomeration then!!!
I think the Palos should keep the gate closed for that. Many people that will keep it under control so and the people should not touch the horses or the guards. I mean it, I'm behind the guard all the way. Keep the gate closed where people cannot go in.They'll get trampled
The crowds are blocking a right of way, forcing pedestrians to walk alongside the traffic. They should be moved on as is the normal action for the police to take.
Horseguards Passage is also a right of way, although it can be closed briefly as it was here. The pavement is amply wide enough to avoid anyone blocking it, but the Army simply got it wrong and caused the problem instead of avoiding it happening.
The whole problem was caused, unfortunately, by mind-numbing incompetence and a lack of planning and initiative by the Army and the MoD Police. Not only is the pavement a public pavement but Horseguards Passage, connecting the Mall and St James's, is a public right of way during the day, although it's owned by the MoD, and a lot of locals use it as a shortcut and to go to St James's for lunch, walking, running or pushing bicycles through. I know it very well as I used to run through it every day when training for the seven bridges as i went to school near there (the City of London). Horseguards Passage is closed briefly regularly during guard mount and dismount, and for Trooping the Colour, but usually the full width of the pavement is kept available at other times when it's closed as the horses are simply backed into their boxes (as at 12:40) and if necessary the hourly changeover is slightly delayed or early. On this occasion there was a meeting of foreign senior officers at HQ London District, IIRC about the Remenbrance Day Parade at the Cenotaph, so the Passage and the Courtyard were closed for security reasons - you can see them leaving at the end of the video. If the horses had been backed into their boxes the full width of the pavement would have been kept available throughout so there would never have been any problem - instead not only did they remain on the pavement so the public still had to walk round them, but they carried on with the routine changeover so half the pavement was cleared by MoD Police who were totally out of their depth, forcing people to walk in the road. Totally inexcusable and very easily avoided. My guess is that the meeting went on a couple of minutes longer than planned and that as it was a Short Guard (the King wasn't in London) there was only an NCO in charge and he didn't want to use his initiative to do anything, delaying the changeover by only two minutes, so he decided it was better to do nothing wrong by doing nothing at all, so creating a problem that should never have happened. The whole problem was so easily avoidable, with either a little forethought and planning or a little initiative - instead the Army did neither and caused a problem that should never have happened, that could easily have led to someone being killed, leaving the MoD Police lost and leaderless. Sometimes, seeing something like this, I'm ashamed to be ex-Army.
Visitors didn't have to stand on the road, putting themselves in danger from vehicle traffic. They had choices (we are always faced with choices). They could have either stayed on pavement and stood further up or down from Horse Guards. Alternatively they could have left the site and returned a little later. I don't see the necessity for visitors to loiter at any site. Sometimes as You must surely realise people have to make choices to ensure their own and their Family's safety.
@@patriciaphillips2479 Most are tourists - they have no idea how long the gates will be closed for (as nobody told them) so they did what tourists do when gates are closed but may be opened soon - they waited. The rest are locals using Horseguards Passageway as a shortcut between the Mall and St James'. Going the long way round, two ways, adds an hour's walk in the heat, so even if they waited half an hour it'd save time so - they waited. Your "choices" simply aren't choices, either for safety or convenience - it was totally unnecessary and easily avoidable. Inexcusable.
@@John-G you’re a mind reader then? You know exactly what everyone on site from the highest ranking officer to the dumbest Touron is thinking and feeling? I doubt that tbh
Instead of expecting all the people to move away from the horse, how about backing the horse into the box ... just a thought 😂 ... and where's the police asking for help?
What the hell are they filming! Nothing is happening.its very telling that a vlogger can produce a good standard docu-film of people filming nothing. We need legislation to allow police to confiscate phones under certain circumstances. That would thin the herd.
Poor horse is spooked. Too many prople, too much noise. Pls rope off the area stopping the folks from getting so close to the horse and guard. And still they are laughing.
I will never understand WHY people stand around all googly eyed and stare. That's impolite and blocking the horse and Guard. Should be a law against that blocking situation.
As I commented on another of these channels, they think it's a show put on for them I'm sure! "What did you do in London?" " i stood on a pavement for ages staring at other tourists! "
Maybe they should put fencing up in a circle around this area so that people can see but not get near the horses - they can open it up if cars need to get in. Of course the crowds are far too big - so a charge to walk thru this roadway ? Only people with passes allowed into this road ? They have to limit the mess sooner or later !
For around the 4,000th time…. Any barrier would be both impractical and downright dangerous. The MOD do not own the footpath in front of the boxes. ‘People with passes allowed on this road?!’ Do you know which road you are referring to?
Thought it was a mountain goat! but I definitely am in favour of a sign. Perhaps if its framed in flashing lights & bells whistles someone will notice it!
@@j.ksmith7432 Que arrogância meu caro! Estou apenas expondo meu ponto de vista em relação a obsessão das pessoas em estressar os animais de uma forma tão invasiva. Por isto questiona se eles nunca viram cavalos em seus países. Creio que cavalo 🐎 deve existir em.boa parte dos países. Você eh muito estressado, e responde as perguntas dos seguidores com outras perguntas mas de um modo bem ARROGANTE.
@@j.ksmith7432 tipo proibir o toque nos cavalos e guardas, caso ocorra a pessoa será retirada e presa no mesmo instante. Ou pagar multa bem alta ou perder o visto de turista!
Although the policemen are top of the job's, they kinda didn't look to help horseman in left box. All them people around so close to the horse. If the Lady office would of been on duty, she would have it sorted, the guys are to soft, always distracted ..Zero common sense !. More and more cameras pointing at the guards waiting for a shout or something. Imagine going to work, and people just filming you all day, waiting to see of they can catch that moment. I can see it coming to an end to be honest.
@@John-G That's half the problem in this country, " i'm here to change a light bulb, and that's it ".. Dude, its totally there job, especially when its over crowded like it was. The guys do seem to always group together and have a good ole chinwag. There's a lady officer who's on the ball.. I hope she is a high ranking officer. It must be frustrating having to sit perfectly still for an hour, while there's a million phones on them, just waiting for some sort of mishap, day in and day out. Crazy for sure.
@@Milldog2023 "Dude", it's not their job at any time, and it's certainly not their job when they're fully occupied with a VIP visit in progress which IS their job. They "group together" because they work in pairs - that's how they operate at Horseguards. If the "lady officer" you're talking about had been there she'd have probably been too busy feeding the horses Polo mints . She's not a "high ranking officer" - she's a constable, the lowest rank there is. Had the trooper on the left had a problem with the crowd around him all he had to do was back into the box - he didn't. They don't do guard "day in, day out" - they do it roughly one day in ten to twelve. If they find it "frustrating" they've only got themselves to blame, as it was entirely their choice to join the 1% of the Army who do this, not the 99% who don't, and he could easily have chosen to join another regiment instead. He didn't.
@@Milldog2023 The horse & Guard are allowed to move their positions. They do not have to stay still like a statue. On duty one hour a day, three days a week. Water brought out to horse & Guard. Also welfare checks.
It was the Army's mistake - they caused the problem by leaving the horses on the pavement instead of backing them into the boxes, then closing half the pavement instead of delaying the changeover by two minutes.
@@John-G I still don't understand why this is a tourist attraction. I don't think it's safe for people from all over the world to put their hands up to the horses mouths. You never know what they have in their hands.
@@purplehearts3287 It was pushed as a tourist attraction in 1993, after the Household Cavalry had been halved - if they hadn't had this to justify themselves, all the Mounted Regiment (250 horses and 350 soldiers) would have done all year, literally, would have been the King's Birthday Parade. Some horses like the attention and get bored without it, others don't and hate it - it's easy to leave it up to the troopers' discretion as they know the horses. The sign is there to stop the MoD being sued, after a horse bit a Chinese tourist on 22 July and she fainted - she actually hadn't touched the horse and she wasn't even that close to it, but she was standing directly in front of the sign so should have been safe. The horse was a known 'biter' so has finally been removed from duty at Horseguards after several similar incidents.
@@purplehearts3287 I believe three have been taken off Horseguards duties and will probably be "retired" . It's actually a myth that military (or police) horses retire and are pensioned off to a life of fun and frolicks. A few go to the Horses' Trust, which is a public charity for old horses, now mainly older military and police horses - no government funding at all, not a penny, just donations. IIRC they've got about 140 horses. The rest are sold off to the highest bidder, albeit vetted, to be used as hunters and hacks and at riding schools. (Edit: these aren't "King's hoses", which are horses from the Royal Mews - also "retired" in the same way. They belong to the MoD, paid for out of the defence budget.)
