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You NEED This for M1 Macs! OWC Thunderbolt 4 Hub Review 

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This is the absolute BEST M1 Mac accessory out there, and it FIXES the #1 problem that people have been having with the M1 Mac Mini and the M1 MacBooks.. for an actually decent price!
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However, this accessory from OWC fixes that problem by giving you two extra Thunderbolt 4 ports, for a total of four available ports.
On top of that, you also get an extra USB-A port which is actually faster than the one on the M1 Mac Mini.
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@MaxTechOfficial
@MaxTechOfficial 3 года назад
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@dooogides9176
@dooogides9176 3 года назад
I have question.....this thunderbolt 4 ya? Is that mean we can use eGPU?
@Oioioilarva446
@Oioioilarva446 3 года назад
Bro ipad 8th gen or mini 5 best for gaming? Because ipad 8th gen bro is non laminated and mini is laminated does it affect the screen or the game play?
@spookyaction4461
@spookyaction4461 3 года назад
What resolution you run 6k display at to be able to see bro? ie its only 32” ie i am thinking 55” OLED @ 3840x2160 wallmounted above desk @ 25% of price  Pro Dispkay XDR?
@SaulidSnake
@SaulidSnake 3 года назад
What speakers do you have at your desk?
@claytonpetree527
@claytonpetree527 3 года назад
@@fred_derf I'd give you two thumbs up in a Z-formation if I could!
@V.D.L.315
@V.D.L.315 3 года назад
Video request; owc thunderbolt 4 hub vs caldigit ts3 plus, please?
@surfacei
@surfacei 2 года назад
There's a new Caldigit tb4 plus and a smaller hub that are out now..their amazing.
@smashwagon777
@smashwagon777 3 года назад
I just got my new M1 MacBook Air 30 minutes ago and this video comes out literally 9 minutes later. This is the choice of the Steins Gate
@amritsingh4251
@amritsingh4251 3 года назад
Hope you enjoy. From experience (I have an m1 Mac as well), it's pretty amazing and you're pretty amazed at first by how fast it is.
@Ancient0609
@Ancient0609 3 года назад
haha i just got my m1 mac mini, but those ports are pretty enough for me
@wikkidselekta
@wikkidselekta 3 года назад
"El Psy Kongroo"
@neoabe7336
@neoabe7336 3 года назад
Doo doo doo
@marclimata1220
@marclimata1220 3 года назад
External SSD such as Samsung T7 and Sandisk Extreme are slower (up to 30% reduction in performance) when connected to this device on a Mac M1. Some USB flash drives are 50% slower when connected to this hub. Some video adapters do not work. However the same devices connected to a Caldigit TS3 Plus do not exhibit this behaviour and the SSD are fast and the video adapters work .. Tested on a Mac mini M1 and a MacBook Air M1. When I googled this I see a lot of people are seeing these same issues. I am now worried other devices may not work or have reduced performance. OWC tech support confirmed what I am seeing and will say its a Mac M1 issue, however why does the Caldigit TS3 Plus work?
@odaily
@odaily 3 года назад
I've been using it for 2 weeks now and one thing I wish they should have added was the DisplayLink
@SupertechUSA
@SupertechUSA 3 года назад
Same 😒
@2005wsoxfan
@2005wsoxfan 3 года назад
I'm not sure what you mean. Can I run two monitors from this hub?
@SupertechUSA
@SupertechUSA 3 года назад
@@2005wsoxfan no. One solution I’m finding for two Displays is attaching a DisplayLink adapter to this after downloading its driver. Not sure if it will work without this but I’m thinking you’ll need the extra port to plug in your laptop to power.
@willjacobs4101
@willjacobs4101 3 года назад
@@SupertechUSA But you can run 1 monitor from the built-in HDMI and one from the hub, right? The only thing really stopping me from upgrading to the M1 Mini is that I use an eGPU, but I could live without it. As long as I can run multiple displays.
@williamp6800
@williamp6800 3 года назад
@@willjacobs4101 yes you can run one display via the Thunderbolt3/USB4 ports and one via HDMI, you can do two displays without any add ons.
@marcoschram222
@marcoschram222 3 года назад
I still think the Caldigit TS3 Plus is a more versatile dock, especially for M1 MacBooks seeing it also has Ethernet, DisplayPort and SD card reader built in 😊 it is more expensive though.. this looks like a nice dock for Mac Mini for a better price
@jinraigami3349
@jinraigami3349 2 года назад
The speed is a lot slower, though.
@iPknEdge
@iPknEdge 3 года назад
The MacBook M1 has finally converted me to Apple after all these years of waiting and waiting and waiting finally something worthy of $1,000 price tag
@probitionate
@probitionate 3 года назад
My dad had a saying: "Always buy as much quality as you can afford. You'll never regret it." He was right. Which is why I've always been on Macs. I have a 2012 iMac and a 2013 MacBook Pro. (Not my primary computer.) They both still work as they always have. Tens of thousands of hours of use. And no service requirements. I've never regretted any penny I've spent on Macs. (Though I absolutely _hate_ Safari. LOL)
@cozyhobbies_
@cozyhobbies_ 3 года назад
@@probitionate love this! I’ve been through two windows laptops in just a few years and today I got my first MacBook, I always see people selling them second hand and they can get good money for it still cus they stay in great shape ☺️
@probitionate
@probitionate 3 года назад
@@just.tiramisu I use an Android phone. I do so because I can't afford an iPhone. I say this as someone who has always paid premium for his Apple products...and never regretted even for a nanosecond. But I can't rationalize spending the extra dough on a phone. (In fairness, I'd be fine with going back to a flip-phone.)
@shadow.overland
@shadow.overland 3 года назад
I used the Belkin Thunderbolt 3 Express Dock HD with my 15" MBP. Its currently connected to my 13" M1 MBP and working great. Uses one Thunderbolt 4 on the M1 and gives me gigabit ethernet, 2 audio outs, 3 USB-A 3.0s, 2 Thunderbolt 3s, Display port for my 4K 32" display, and power to the MBP. Sweet little unit at 8"L x 3.5"D x 1"H.
@beauregardslim1914
@beauregardslim1914 3 года назад
This is awesome! I heard about all the problems with USB speeds and m1 macs. You have answered a bunch of my questions.
@khoifoto
@khoifoto 3 года назад
Would you please check out if this hub allows M1 Mac mini to output 3 monitors through thunderbolt to HDMI / Display port adapter?
@chewbster
@chewbster 3 года назад
When you plugged your display into the hub, you created a docking station. You can now park any tb device into the hub (windows laptop or whatever) and you’ll be using your all peripherals
@nielsdam90
@nielsdam90 3 года назад
Does this enable dual monitor support for M1 Macbooks over USB-C or do you still to connect one via USB with displaylink?
@ViktorFury
@ViktorFury 3 года назад
Please somebody answer this :(
@arcogaudio
@arcogaudio 3 года назад
I wish Apple could include 4 integrated Thunderbolt ports! Like, in this video, it shows that the M1 Macs have 2 controllers, and each controller can have up to 2 ports! They just only have one port per controller! They should have tried out 4 ports to make sure that they worked before releasing it to the public! It’s sad that we have to buy an external accessory to get more ports... Let’s just hope that they include 4 ports for the M1X model!
@MaxTechOfficial
@MaxTechOfficial 3 года назад
They will :)
@numberIII-zu8ut
@numberIII-zu8ut 2 года назад
IMPORTANT FACT: some 10gbps usb cables are failed atts at thunderbolt 3 cables but they work at 20gbps passively. I had one cable where it advertises 10gbps but it says "20gbps only on thunderbolt 3"
@dulistanheman
@dulistanheman 3 года назад
Wishing the 16 inch M (something) to have at lease 3 or 4 thunderbolt 4 👈👈🏻👈🏼👈🏽👈🏾👈🏿
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 года назад
Same here but if not would you use this dock?
@dulistanheman
@dulistanheman 3 года назад
@@WarriorsPhoto too bulky. Getting one seems like bringing a small desktop computer every where you go. For stationary at home is fine, but why should buy if I can get new iMac M (something) that looks clean as one setup machine, screen and many USB-C connection.
@corgikun2579
@corgikun2579 3 года назад
it's gonna have 9 ports!
@isaacegglestone5526
@isaacegglestone5526 3 года назад
Yeah but for people like me who want to buy a machine I can use at home and on the go I would buy two of these for home use. Assuming I can plug two in. I haven’t owned a desktop since 2011. After I bough my first quad core I7 MacBook in 2011 I never went back to desktops.
@mildmannered1086
@mildmannered1086 3 года назад
Yo and UHS-III SDCARD slot lolololo
@friscodog
@friscodog 3 года назад
Thanks much! I'm saving my pennies and dimes for a new M1 Mac, and trying to decide which model to buy. SSD is going to be absolutely essential, whichever one I opt for, but that connectivity just seems SO limited on all the current models! It's great to know that there is a way to expand my options beyond just a couple of ports.
@fallout187
@fallout187 3 года назад
I watch other tech reviewers for entertainment.......I watch Max Tech for purchasing decisions. Keep crushing it.
@jackal830
@jackal830 3 года назад
Thank you so much for testing without the power connected! I am getting a Mac Mini M1 and am looking for a Thunderbolt dock that doesn't need external power. I was curious if this one worked without external power and I couldn't find answers anywhere until finding this video.
@catrionahanafin6213
@catrionahanafin6213 3 года назад
Yes. I have this hub, and that's my biggest complaint. It would be nice to get at least some connectivity when bus-powered.
@garanceadrosehn9691
@garanceadrosehn9691 3 года назад
I'm happy to see a review for this. It does seem like an excellent addition to an M1 mac. Excellent job!
@animat8
@animat8 3 года назад
I purchased this OWC 4 Hub based on this review. My experience was not as good. With ext thunderbolt 4 SSD connected had 1400 W 1700 R. Connected directly to back of M1 Mac mini had 2000 W 2400 R. With a Crucial 500GB USB-C SSD mid 500's r/w with dock. 800 r/w connected directly. Sent it to OWC and they said its fine. When I get it back I will document the speed differences and make my first RU-vid video. I personally wont buy from them again. Check their BBB score 1 out of 5 stars along with the 1 star reviews on their previous TB3 dock on Amazon.
@jrbees929
@jrbees929 3 года назад
Nice review! The new OWC hubs have come a long way. My old OWC Thunderbolt 1 hub is 3X the size of yours.
@bobmetzger51
@bobmetzger51 2 года назад
I have owned this hub for over a year and I do like it. But, and this is a small point, why did they place the TB4 plug on the front? A bit annoying.
@TJDawgs72
@TJDawgs72 3 года назад
I really don’t understand why Apple didn’t offer more ports on the Mini...it would be very helpful if they added a port on the front. Preferably another thunderbolt but at least an usb-a
@chinarut
@chinarut 3 года назад
I'm sure there were lots of constraints & they hit a deadline & decided it still made sense to release the mini w the MBA on launch. it's probably also part of the reason they discounted it $100. I'd be surprised if they don't address this on the next rev - it cost them money def to mold a separate mini shell with 2 ports when they could have gotten away w reusing the old shell 100%!
@williamp6800
@williamp6800 3 года назад
Because, just like there were two variations of the Intel Mac Mini, there will be two variations of the Apple Silicon Mac Mini, with the second using an M1x.(or similar name). When it arrives in Stage 2 of the transition, You’ll see more cores, more ports, and with luck, the return of 10Gb Ethernet. But don’t expect any ports on the front. They could have been doing that for the last decade and didn’t. I don’t expect that to change. That chip will also power the replacement for the higher end MacBook Pro13”, the MacBook Pro 16”, and the lower end iMacs. I expect it to arrive sometime between March and WWDC in June. And then it will on to stage three...
@aaronhinton92
@aaronhinton92 Год назад
Does OWC’s new Thunderbolt 4 11-port hub also have its own thunderbolt controller that delivers these same SSD speeds? Or is it just this particular hub that reaches these speeds?
@david243121
@david243121 3 года назад
where is the link to the video on the custom SSD?
@putubing
@putubing 3 года назад
Great video but one thing was not looked at, will this dock allow mi Macs to connect at least two monitors where the mi's only natively accept one.
@johngwheeler
@johngwheeler 3 года назад
No, the hub won't give you more video outputs, in the same way that connecting an M1 Mac to 2 external monitors via the TB3 connectors also doesn't work. The only solution I'm aware of for getting multiple monitors are: 1) On the M1 Mini, use 1 x TB3 port plus the HDMI port for the second monitor 2) Use a dock that supports DisplayLink (video over USB), to connect to multiple monitors (which is what I do).
@jonathanraecrisanto5912
@jonathanraecrisanto5912 3 года назад
Thunderbolt and lightning, very very frightening me!
@williamp6800
@williamp6800 3 года назад
Galileo! Galileo!
@LeeStoneman
@LeeStoneman 3 года назад
That's an insane price for what is effectively a 3 port hub. The same thing for USB would cost a fraction of the $150 they want. Come back to me when it's under $30.
@williamp6800
@williamp6800 3 года назад
Then buy a USB3 hub. Just don’t expect it to do what a USB4 hub will do. 🤷
@LeeStoneman
@LeeStoneman 3 года назад
..? I don't want a USB3 hub? What a daft thing to suggest.
@williamp6800
@williamp6800 3 года назад
@@LeeStonemanwell you did make the USB comparison,... And you were clearly suggesting the price was inappropriate for what you’re getting. So if you think USB 3 features at USB3 price is offers good value, go for it. But you want to pay USB3 price for Thunderbolt/USB4 features. Who is it that’s being daft? Not going to happen any time soon and this a reasonable price for what it is. A niche product at a niche product price.
@crazybeaner58
@crazybeaner58 3 года назад
Can’t find this thing anywhere!!!! My M1 comes in on Thursday and I’ve been frantically looking for weeks
@PapaDougsAdventures01
@PapaDougsAdventures01 3 года назад
Can you add the SSD build video link to the notes?
@emjay9733
@emjay9733 3 года назад
I think the reason for Sabrent Rocket performance anomalies is due to thermal throttling. I experienced wildly different results using BM disk test with the 1TB Q version and sent it back. The OWC Envoy enclosure for TB3 only uses two of the four PCIe lanes and returns consistent 1200 MB/S for read and writes. Looking at your spreadsheet, it seems USB-C/A is where the 100 MB/s slowdown is prevalent. This has been (I think) a confounding issue for much of the analysis into this M1 external SSD performance problem and I greatly appreciate your raw data and exploration. You guys rock!
@PolluxChung
@PolluxChung 3 года назад
This is the 4th review of this hub I have seen today. Now I am convinced.
@jayt3972
@jayt3972 3 года назад
Probably paid marketing campaign if you have seen 4 in a day.
@king715168
@king715168 3 года назад
I bought the owc tb4 hub a couple days ago, surprisingly I’m actually getting slower speed on my externals, my 2.5 sata ssd got 250MB r/w down from 350MB when directly connected to the m1 mini. Sandisk extreme pro 550MB r/w down from 750MB, and T5 which you got 400 MB in the video stays the same at 350MB in my case. very strange and disappointing, all cables are 10gbps cables that came with the drives and tested support 10gbps, even tried tb3 cable with no luck, don’t have tb drive so can’t test it. did you guys mess with any settings or firmware to get this speed? or different drive formats? mines are exfat and apple extended.Anyway, Thanks for all the great videos, looking forward to the new apple tv vs the original 4k video.
@Langkinhsaigon-SaigonHoloscope
@Langkinhsaigon-SaigonHoloscope 3 года назад
Your sharing is appreciated. Bought M1 Mac mini last week and have been checking out for all available TDB 4 hubs, specially the one that you just have tested. Now I've got enough info to make the wise decision. Thank a bunch!👍👏
@CNMTCFilms
@CNMTCFilms 3 года назад
That is exactly what I am looking for for two and a half years now🔥 finally🤟🏾
@PeteKowalsky
@PeteKowalsky 3 года назад
If you're planning on using this with TB3 - make SURE you read the requirements first. This requires a TB4 host (computer-side) connection, unless you have Big Sur (MacOS 11) on your Intel TB3 Mac. If you're doing music production or anything super content-heavy, make sure all your apps are tested and "certified" on Big Sur...
@CNMTCFilms
@CNMTCFilms 3 года назад
@@PeteKowalsky thanks for the advice! 🙏🏾 I've got TB3 but MacOS BigSur😊
@catrionahanafin6213
@catrionahanafin6213 3 года назад
@@PeteKowalsky I've found that on a Windows PC with TB3, I can get TB3 output out of the port furthest away from the power port. The other ports get USB-C.
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 года назад
Max, thank you so much for sharing this video with us. I am impressed by OWC and their products. Have you had connection issues with this device?
@kennikuhlmann-clark9860
@kennikuhlmann-clark9860 3 года назад
I wonder how the OWC hub compares to one of those 'base' hubs specifically for the Mac Mini? Btw, @10:38 Graphic for the 'Hub Read' appears to be incorrect
@arthuryang3004
@arthuryang3004 3 года назад
Link for purchasing the 10Gbps cable you used in this video?
@SupertechUSA
@SupertechUSA 3 года назад
This great! I have the bigger one and loving it 🙌 OWC also has good service. Got the same test results on my T7 where the dock had better performance than plugging straight to m1 MBP
@pumacorp
@pumacorp 2 года назад
What did u get with the T7 if u dont mind me asking ?
@id4062
@id4062 3 года назад
This was the video I was waiting for thank you for you great channel you guys know how to explain everything Apple👌
@priteshkerai2579
@priteshkerai2579 3 года назад
You haven’t included a link to the custom drive components parts. Both the enclosure and nvme drive. Perhaps include a link to the video which details this too.
@gaelguilloteau3179
@gaelguilloteau3179 3 года назад
im waiting for the links to the video for this EDIT: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CfNjnwfVLRs.html heres the link to the video
@mrdali67
@mrdali67 3 года назад
It would be very interesting to see how this hub performs with a tb ssd + tb sound sound interface for the musicians. The M1 Mac could be extremely interesting to a music performer that need extra disk space for sound libraries than the standard Macbook provides if it will not ruin the low latency of the tb sound interfaces. Most sound interfaces do only require tb 2 but the key reason to choose them is the much better latency vs usb interfaces
@fletcherdillon
@fletcherdillon 3 года назад
Hey, I know what you mean! I'm currently running a M1 MacBook with my entire Logic Pro projects running off an external ssd, as well as running an interface for recording. Its amazingly smooth! I also just uploaded a vid to my channel where I talk about these type features as well as good USB hubs for the M1 range if you wanted to check it out 😁
@berndkiltz
@berndkiltz 3 года назад
EDIT: You already Did. Love your Channel!!! ------ Can you connect the apple Pro Disply XDR and use fast USB Drives as well? Does the XDR use Display Stream Compression with the M1 Macs? Please, you are THE ONLY PEOPLE that actually know what I am talking about 😂
@glenallan6279
@glenallan6279 3 года назад
If i remember right from an interview with Larry, the new M1 Macs do not have TB4. They have USB4/TB3. There isn’t the same technical specs as TB4 or you’d be able to hook up more displays than what they support. This may change with the new M2 or M1X ones coming.
@glenallan6279
@glenallan6279 3 года назад
Yup... And the M1s don’t use TB4, hence not all the support. Here’s looking to the next round of ASi to see if they do go full TB4.
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 года назад
Wait then how was Max getting such good results with this dock?
@glenallan6279
@glenallan6279 3 года назад
Speeds are same between 3 and 4. I think the main thing is that it (The M1) only uses 2 PCIe lanes instead of 4 which would still give good speeds but at up to 2500MB/s (per port). And it doesn’t support the required amount of Display port connections, which is why less monitors on the M1. Anyway, it’s not about the hub, it’s about the Thunderbolt controller in the M1 Mac. The hub seems a great way to expand it for sure!
@glenallan6279
@glenallan6279 3 года назад
Check out Rene Richie’s channel for lots of deep dives as well. Also nothing against Max Tech. They are one of my favorites.
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 года назад
@@glenallan6279 Is this how the discovery was made about the amount of 2 PCIE lanes?
@richard--s
@richard--s 3 года назад
I found out, that Mac users are allergic to adapters, because 'Macs are built the way they are for a reason and therefore they don't need an adapter'. Well, that's not my opinion. I find that opinion strange to be honest. And one Mac user said to the people in the meeting "don't mention the adapter, I don't want to talk about it". That seems to be something from very deep inside, that's influencing people... It's strange. But it's nice that you present us a useful adapter here in your video. Thanks!
@raziel8321
@raziel8321 3 года назад
Apple 2021 - > Back to the 1980s when every home computer needed a hundreds large external equipment, with extra power and cables to work with it.
@matthiasverfaille7451
@matthiasverfaille7451 3 года назад
Dude its a laptop. Use it as a laptop if your complaining. Just buy a dongle and your finished. Buy a desktop + laptop
@raziel8321
@raziel8321 3 года назад
@@matthiasverfaille7451 lol, you didn t understand. Even the normal Apple desktops aren t much better today. Design first.... function somewhere behind.... today apple systems designt for casual office/photo/Internet work, not for people wo realy work with external Equipment and need pci express Hardware and good i/o ports.
@matthiasverfaille7451
@matthiasverfaille7451 3 года назад
@@raziel8321 ahh also desktops, did not know that. Wel i don't personally have a desktop from apple so couldn't relate. I boult my desktop myself so yeah probably your right :)
@LifeofhOfficial
@LifeofhOfficial 2 года назад
Always amazing review. Is there an updated video on what's the best thunderbolt 4 docks for the new m1 Max/pro?
@sungjoonpark8914
@sungjoonpark8914 2 года назад
You are awesome! Always thank you very much for the great information! If possible, I would like to see Cadigit thunderbolt 4 element hub review. Thank you!
@MrAwesomeTony
@MrAwesomeTony 3 года назад
The port placement is a bit uncomfortable... I would want 2 C port and 1 A port on the front, and the DC, uplink, and 2 c port on the back so everything could easily tuck away while giving me 2 c port to hot-plug when I need it. If that is coming out, I would drop $200 easily for that.
@leklin1478
@leklin1478 2 года назад
Is your QNAP a NAS? I thought NAS could only be connected to computer via network but cannot directly connected. Thank you 🙏
@utubekullanicisi
@utubekullanicisi 3 года назад
I don’t think the TB/USB4 situation is going to be this messy again with the next Apple Silicon Macbooks. I think the reason the M1 can’t drive two 4K 50Hz displays is because the M1 is essentially the A14X chip that is rumored to be going into the next iPad Pro, and they did this to streamline their M1 & A14X production line because pandemic. Next year we’re hopefully going to get proper Thunderbolt 4 ports and we’ll be able to drive two 4K 60Hz displays from the two TB4 ports directly on our next Apple Silicon Macs instead of having to buy a hub. Speaking of which, can you test if we can plug in two 4K 60Hz displays into this new OWC Hub next if you have two 4K 60Hz displays in your hand? The real question is if Apple really has two Thunderbolt controllers integrated into the M1 why did they not wire both of them to the two Thunderbolt ports and leave us in a janky situation like this?
@tropictom5996
@tropictom5996 3 года назад
Possible related benefit: Another channel suspects that the Bluetooth issues the M1 Macs have been having is due to the Bluetooth controller doing double duty as the USB controller. If you can use one of these hubs and avoid connecting anything to the USB ports on your Mac, supposedly the Bluetooth issues vanish.
@numberIII-th5gr
@numberIII-th5gr 2 года назад
if you're wondering, some SS10 cables work over thunderbolt at 20gbps
@FrancisdeBriey
@FrancisdeBriey 3 года назад
Waouhhhh.... impressed ! I have the Elgato Thunderbolt Hub which I bought for twice the price... OWC is a great company : I bought their kit to put 2 SSDS on Mac Minis 4 years ago. Mac minis are the greatest machines ever, totally undervalued by users. I am an IT guy and use 2 quand core i7 16GB 2TB mac minis 2012 as Windows Server machines for development. NEVER A single problem ! Apple builds one of the best PC hardware on the planet.
@4hotographix
@4hotographix 3 года назад
I recently bought an M1 Mac Book Pro so I can use Da Vinci Resolve for editing my videos (after watching one of your reviews) and its great...I am wondering as to whether getting a Mac Mini would benefit me at all and whether I could use it alongside my Mac book how would I set that up..?....also thinking about buying the hub too..!
@AK-IT
@AK-IT 3 года назад
Now to test the speeds of devices connected to dongles that are connected to the thunderbolt ports on the dock. To expand each of those TB3 ports to various USB, HDMI, Ethernet connections
@SheilaHouse
@SheilaHouse 3 года назад
Where is the vid on custom ssd build? TY The
@alejmc
@alejmc 3 года назад
Amazing. That would also work for the iMacs... they have only two Thunderbolt 3 ports (but enough USB Type A SS ones).
@ca1688
@ca1688 2 года назад
hey, max, what's the brand of the speakers on your desktop? Looks compact and doesn't take much desktop space.
@StuartSchaefer
@StuartSchaefer 3 года назад
Received this Hub today from OWC but after running tests with Mac Mini M1 I do not get this speeds. Even changed out the cable with one of those 10gb cables purchased from Amazon at a cost of $26. Now when I get on my MacBook Pro 16” I get extremely fast speeds. Testing with the Sandisk 500gb usb-C 3.2 Gen 2 which is suppose to get up to 1050MB/s. Get about half of that speed on Mac Mini M1 via hub. On MacBook Pro get nearly 900MB/s. Go figure.
@Superjeanmarc
@Superjeanmarc 3 года назад
Same here... My T7 2Tb supposed to give 1000MB/s peaks around 650MB on MacMini M1
@JKNProductions
@JKNProductions 3 года назад
I would still prefer the Mac Pro. Too many hubs and cords to manage. I like the internal storage and expansion of the Mac Pro
@garanceadrosehn9691
@garanceadrosehn9691 3 года назад
I'd agree with that. But the price is pretty painful!
@congapraise
@congapraise 3 года назад
Any chance on providing a link to the 10GB thunderbolt 3 cable??
@Wordalot
@Wordalot 3 года назад
This is what I was waiting for to pull trigger for my desktop replacement. Thanks!
@sousavann
@sousavann 3 года назад
Buy a 2018 Mac min instead, you can easily upgrade to 64Gb ram and plugin your external Nvme HD to it. It has 4 Usb-c port as well. Buy a used one from craiglist or Marketplace facebook.
@Wordalot
@Wordalot 3 года назад
@@sousavann I have a 2018 Mac mini and my M1 mini blows it away.
@Wordalot
@Wordalot 3 года назад
@@sousavann Yes, it has 64GB and at one time it was using the Blackmagic eGPU Pro - the M1 still blows it away. No amount of RAM can make-up for that slow i7.
@sousavann
@sousavann 3 года назад
@@Wordalot thx for your input, will consider buying next gen mac mini M2 chip with more usb-c ports. Thank you!
@Wordalot
@Wordalot 3 года назад
@@sousavann I will say this - if you’re using any apps not optimized for Apple Silicon - then the M1 seems to run them about as fast on the i7. But after they’ve been optimized, they fly on the M1.
@HiFiInsider
@HiFiInsider 3 года назад
perfect timing! I just got my top model M1 Air.
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 года назад
What does top model mean?
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 года назад
@@applesilicon6863 That’s a good way of looking at it. Is that your choice?
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 года назад
@@applesilicon6863 With highest specs?
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 года назад
@@applesilicon6863 😎
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 года назад
@@applesilicon6863 Very 😎.
@10p6
@10p6 3 года назад
Apple Silicon M1 does not evens support Thunderbolt 4. It supports Thunderbolt 3 and USB 4, a big difference.
@collabsphotography
@collabsphotography 2 года назад
I love your sound setup, could you tell me the model and is it any good? :) thank you
@ninioburbuja
@ninioburbuja 3 года назад
6:23 Wrong chart.
@LeBronIsgLoat
@LeBronIsgLoat 3 года назад
👀Clicked on the video so fast 2 of my wet nails 💅🏽got messed up and I don't care! 😄😁😆💅🏽👀
@samuelodan2376
@samuelodan2376 3 года назад
Aww
@PeteKowalsky
@PeteKowalsky 3 года назад
Pay close attention to the host (computer-side) requirements for this solution. In other words, as cool as this is, if you only have TB3 on Windows, sorry, but you're outta luck with this particular solution. The only TB3 machines this will work with are Intel Macs with MacOS 11 Big Sur. At least that's what I inferred from reading the OWC docs on this unit a week or two ago. If I'm wrong here - someone please confirm - and I'll order one right now for my 2019 MacBook Pro with Catalina! :) [Many of my music production apps aren't yet updated for Big Sur so I'm stuck on Catalina for a while. DOH.] Thanks for showing that your TB cables and attached devices MATTER here - seems lots of folks don't "get" it and expect max bus performance on el-cheapo parts.
@DamianBrown
@DamianBrown 3 года назад
I really want to get an external like the sabrent TB3 but without using a hub, so thanks for this!
@sergioberserker8
@sergioberserker8 Год назад
i have OWC thunderbolt 4, my worry is about the battery life of my MacBook Pro m1; I need these connections because I'm a producer, but the Mac is always in charging mode. how can I disable the charging by OWC ?
@BombDaBass2000
@BombDaBass2000 Год назад
The answer is a simple Software solution.. it's an app called "AlDente Pro"
@sergioberserker8
@sergioberserker8 Год назад
@@BombDaBass2000 thank you sir 🙏
@Mal0wens
@Mal0wens 3 года назад
Perfect! Just want I needed to know. Thank you!!
@matthewpreston1396
@matthewpreston1396 3 года назад
What’s that cool black controller to the right of your dock with the knobs and buttons on? I don’t even know what it is, but I want one :)
@ion-shivs
@ion-shivs 3 года назад
I also want to know what this is.
@andybaldin5588
@andybaldin5588 3 года назад
please do not charge using the Hub USB C without first upgrading to version 11.2.2 of big sur
@cabowabo78727
@cabowabo78727 2 года назад
Your reviews are the best...THANKS!
@justsa25
@justsa25 3 года назад
Hey max, can you do a video on setting up dual monitors on the new m1 MacBook? Even though there no way to do it according to apple but there’s ways to do it.
@shermeme
@shermeme 3 года назад
A nice cheat is to use an Apple TV
@justsa25
@justsa25 3 года назад
@@shermeme that lags a bit, i want dual monitors haha
@seanriley9045
@seanriley9045 3 года назад
This is such a relief.
@DrRobAlexander
@DrRobAlexander 3 года назад
I am not getting the same result you are. My 2TB Samsung T7 runs just barely under 700 on the original port on the Mac Mini and around 630 through this hub. (Those are rounded... read and write aren’t the same, of course, but are pretty close.) My 500 GB Adata runs faster on both than the T7, but still lags on the hub relative to the native port. Further, I just discovered in testing two SSDs that the USB A port doesn’t work at all. I am significantly disappointed.
@Superjeanmarc
@Superjeanmarc 3 года назад
I have the same issue with my 2Tb T7 drive running at around
@superstarpresence
@superstarpresence 3 года назад
Hey @MaxTech... Superb video as always. I have learned so much from you. So thank you for all your obvious hard work and passion. Question: I’m about to purchase my M1 Mac and I had finally decided on the M1 MacBook Air. However, after seeing this video, I’m rethinking and considering the M1 Mac Mini and a setup more like yours. I will be doing lots of Live Streaming. Video editing. Music creation. I almost always have 3 to 6 apps open simultaneously. Usually one or two of them are browsers with lots of tabs. I move fast. What would be your recommendation regarding this decision? I was concerned about the Mini being too underpowered, but I’ve seen much to the contrary since. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Steven
@williamp6800
@williamp6800 3 года назад
The three current M1 Macs all have the same CPU processing power. Since the Mini has the best cooling, it can maintain peak performance indefinitely. The Air has the most limited cooling so it throttles down to about ~90% of peak performance after about ten minutes of sustained full load. Need to go places with it? Don’t get the Mini. Otherwise, it’s least expensive and will give full performance without cooling constraints. Oh, and the base Air has only 7 GPU cores instead of the 8 found in the upper configuration Air, the MacBook Pro, and the Mini.
@MickBurkhardt
@MickBurkhardt 6 месяцев назад
Didn't see this in the comments, so allow me: I bought this for my iMac 2021 with two Thunderbolt 4 ports and it only read ONE monitor, not two. VERY disappointing. I scoured the internet for remedy videos and nothing came up. So I sent back the OWC hub and bought another one that used the DisplayLink software.
@concejero7
@concejero7 2 года назад
Thanks for the video, great info. I just got mine.
@LamarMK
@LamarMK 3 года назад
Great Testing! 👍
@shaneb9323
@shaneb9323 3 года назад
will this fix the damn bluetooth disconnecting and lagging??
@apawstate
@apawstate 2 месяца назад
I saw another review video of this that mentioned that running Windows on Bootcamp with the hub causes blue screens. Have you tried it?
@fatboynip
@fatboynip 3 года назад
this is not out until may! I just pre ordered it! can't wait.
@megam8836
@megam8836 3 года назад
Nice video
@SunlightOfTheSpirit
@SunlightOfTheSpirit 3 года назад
I have just bought both the SSD drive and the big brother of this hub while waiting for my 16Gb, 512, 10Gb eth, M1 Mac mini. Everything on this channel is so positive towards Apple. I'm now reading some horror stories on the forum about Bluetooth connectivity still being an issue and this gets compounded when you add a hub or a dock into the mix. Can you perhaps speak a little on the Bluetooth issues and how you see it/ have experienced them 6 months on? I'm awaiting my order to come through which includes a new Bluetooth peripherals so I've ended up spending a lot of money and its' all your fault hehe.
@SunlightOfTheSpirit
@SunlightOfTheSpirit 3 года назад
Thinking of sending back before opening to get full refund
@SmokingHotConfessions
@SmokingHotConfessions 3 года назад
Hi Max, Loved the video mate. It was recommended to me that I buy a powered docking station to connect my Mac to to lighten the load on the CPU as much as possible. The OWC unit I was looking at was around twice the price of the one in this video. Will the one in this video still lighten the load on the CPU? Thanks!
@rauldeandrade
@rauldeandrade 3 года назад
Have you seen the amazon reviews for that 4TB drive you're recommending?
@LeicaCat
@LeicaCat 3 года назад
Why would Apple cut the total number of ports in half when these tests prove that it could easily have had all four? It's not like there's a lack of space inside the mini either. It's basically hollow inside. Are they holding back to sell a more expensive one in 6 months?
@lennymarinez
@lennymarinez 3 года назад
This is perfect because the hagibis, agptek, and the other brand of mac mini hub/docks apparently are having seriously bad reviews where the 2.5 inch internal sata enclosure seems to be disconnecting the ssd hard drives. Not worth the $80 price tag.
@TheOriginalAndrewLaverick
@TheOriginalAndrewLaverick 3 года назад
What I'm waiting for is a hub with the Mac mini form factor and 2 NVME internal slots.
@AndreasSchebesta
@AndreasSchebesta 3 года назад
There is a dock available, you can insert 2,5" SSD
@fumblerooskie
@fumblerooskie 3 года назад
I like the Anker TB4 hub better. I actually daisy chained an Anker TB3 hub to it and got even MORE ports for older devices.
@simonanartist
@simonanartist 2 года назад
What you are saying is that SSD drive will be quicker using the OWC dock?
@Alckemy
@Alckemy 3 года назад
looks promising but after being a victim of USB hubs bricking my m1 I'm really wary of docks. I used the simple anker one and had to have my computer serviced as it wouldn't turn on and clicked... they "patched" it the day after
@AndrewRockYoutube
@AndrewRockYoutube 2 года назад
Nice video. You should check out a Thunderbolt 3 monitor. It’s a work around for needing a docking station and gets you a much better display as well. I’ve done a couple videos on the CJ791 monitor if you’re interested in looking into it. Andrew
@JudgeFredd
@JudgeFredd 3 года назад
Super interesting as usual
@soraaoixxthebluesky
@soraaoixxthebluesky 3 года назад
I’m getting my MBA M1 soon for a desk setup. This video helps a lot!
@sousavann
@sousavann 3 года назад
Buy a 2018 Mac min instead, you can easily upgrade to 64Gb ram and plugin your external Nvme HD to it. It has 4 Usb-c port as well. Buy a used one from craiglist or Marketplace facebook.
@Mediamazing
@Mediamazing 3 года назад
Nice! Just got confirmation that my 16gb mini shipped today...hoping this ships soon.
@yungsookevinhong7943
@yungsookevinhong7943 Год назад
Can the hub charge with a power bank supply for on the go use ? if so, what kind of power supply of output it need.
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