A prime example of Law Enforcement and Security Officers interacting in a respectful manner. No attitude, no hostility. Each side understands their role and conducts themselves in a professional manner.
@@thefishboneexperience7697 i know right that would be nice if we had that option where we can tag along with police but still do our job and they do theirs
I should certainly hope so . You make it sound like that's something special . Like it's special when a dad buys his family food . Fuck that's the way its suppose to be ...lol
That logic only applies in states that require credentials. KY, for example, doesn't require any kind of training or license. You can just be hired as security with no background at all. It's ridiculous.
someone who works in armed security, this is standard for police officer's to make sure that we are legit armed security officer's due to other individuals impersonating a police officer, this is not harassment. anyone can purchase black uniforms, badges and obtain sidearms and state they are security when they are not.
Agree. If a police officer (or customer, frankly, any legitimate concerned party) wanted to see my company ID and when working in a state that requires it, my license, it's not a problem.
@@practicaledc2273 Honestly it's best that way. Used to get some real shady people and guards from other security companies trying to poach contracts from us, come up an ask us if we were licensed and insured, I'm guessing so that they could file complaints with the management company to get the contract pulled. Told them I only show my credentials to cops and enforcement agents from the BSIS (CA's security licensing agency). The cops ended up regularly checking our creds anytime they noticed a new guard. Got a special wallet with all my BSIS docs and shit specifically for it. Cop rolls us, asks for your info, you give it to 'em, then ya'll both pop a chew then shoot the shit for like 30 minutes while they do some reports. I miss it sometimes. Some of the best nights of my life spent working graveyards in the ghetto haha.
I've been in the security field for 25 years..never have I had a cop ask me for credentials..why...cuz my uniform is on point and duty belt also..these guards that get harassed and asked for ID by cops are the ones looking like shit in uniform...I'm a field supervisor and I see it in my own company..
Here's another interesting fact. In some states, where armed security has police powers while on duty, impersonating a security guard is actually a crime.
I’ve had a guy come onto one of our properties, park on the site, tell us he was security for the site then take off once we called the owner. There are some clowns out there. Be aware. Be very aware guys.
While that may be true. Its a huge risk to the client. I have admittingly been in that situation before. Was patrolling a complex in a marked company vehicle. Accidently was at the wrong property. The odd part is my clicker worked for their gate, but it wasn't apparent to me until I started noticing there were no signs posted. Found out my prop was actually two buildings over and had a similar name.
I had this situation, but in the armored industry. Our vehicle stop working in front of a bank (before entering the building). We had a white armored van. The bank called the police for a suspicious white van, lol. Police came in an unmarked vehicle. He asked for the ATM techb/guard for id, etc. He asked me, but I asked for his ID , business card, etc. He said why you need all that if im the police. I told him, "Well you are in a unmarked vehicle, and we are in uniform with our company name posted on the side and carrying money, how we know you are real and not someone trying to rob us. He understood and gave me his information, lol.
Former security officer on here and signed in after a severe accident on the job. It's good to see our agents back and it's not just about the police or sheriff....
I think the cops take it too far. He shows him his credentials and that he is a licensed armed security guard. There is no need to run him and have him call his boss or any of that. What nonsense.
You have to, I know Texas DPS run those to make sure they are in compliance, some security (Commissioned) don't know what they are doing even with a license, and a lot of time it's up to the cop, example, when I worked along state police, this security guard walks into the gas station with his gear and all, (you can't do that) if you do, that is a felony. Security guards (armed) only at your site.
yeap, and all of the other questions, : why they have security ? what's your primary role? where you park your car at ? You have the contact of the homeowner? all fishing and not needed. They are looking for excuse and looking for a crime and notice the OWNER of the home never call in any crime.
@@johnvines4875What are you you talking about? DPSPSB says you are covered by peace officer status 1 hour before and up to 2 hours after the end of your shift in uniform. Within that time frame It is NOT illegal to walk into a gas station lol
Most of all of their questions were unnecessary. I would have showed my card reffered them to my supervisor and kept quiet. Everything else was none of there business. That's why you are hired as "private security".
There is no probable cause to believe he is carrying a gun illegally. Just because you are driving a car doesn't mean cops can just stop you. They have to have PROBABLE CAUSE. Too bad the neighbors are all anti gun pussies. Shows you how far down the tubes this country has gone.
I’ve done some plain clothes concealed carry sitting on a residence. At the beginning of every shift we call the nearest precinct and provide them with our info including: company, our names, year, make, model of our vehicles and that we’re armed. They may or may not do a drive by. Never had an issue.
I did this work for 4 years while I went to college after retiring from the Air Force. My boss always notified the PD and SO when we had armed uniformed security at places so they knew we were there and didn't need to check us out, though sometimes when the cops got bored they'd stop by and chat for a while. Most interactions with LE were cordial, with a few dick heads from time to time.
You’re obviously the bigger man in these encounters with LEOs because of your military background and training. I always expect military veterans to be more professional and cordial with interactions that LEOs. Thank you for your service and contribution.
Brother great job for keeping it cool and definitely the officers as well i am an armed security as well i enjoy every moment of it yes it can be boring or insane but i love the way you carry yourself keep it up.
The cops were respectful but they shouldn’t need to know his car where its at and over asking i get why they do it but once he showed what im guessing is his armed security credentials it should been done with that.
@@Beaheadoeverybody They are responding to a call. They aren't harassing him. Everyone was respectful. You just sound like you're looking for a reason to bash the police.
He could of done it in a more professional manner ( the neighbor ) he could of ask what company he works for then could of called that company and confirmed they’re guards are set to post up at that adress . Instead of making a scene with the fucking police
@@MrNiceGuy2323 that's 100% definitely not an excuse. I'm around guns alot more than I want to but, that "nervousness" is how enemies get made and respect is not tossed but dumped out the window. If cops talk that we're on the same side and still treats the game the same... yeah get tense for a constitutional right from a guy in a security uniform. Screw that neighbor btw.
@@MrNiceGuy2323 security has a higher rate of dying and getting ambushed from God knows who, yet some of us still get up and go to work, usually not that on edge. We watch.. most of us I hope. Security on regular has no immunities, no back up (depending on your company), is still chewed up for mostly everything. Saying the cops go through this and that means nothing. In my security career I've been in 1 of the dumbest gunfights of my life for $12 an hour for a store in a meh neighborhood just because 2 idiots were greedy and didn't care... guess who got the boot for that and I've been in shit loads of fist fights for assholes putting their hands on me. Cops have a hard job, Security has a hard job. I lick no ones boot, especially law enforcement that will mostly try to swing that governnent badge in my face, trying to have me go through this long BS process of me trying to prove myself innocent while I'm working, when it's your job to investigate without my assistance to do such. (5th Amendment) Sometimes because they see I'm using my (2nd Amendment) for my job.
Oh, it's Newport Beach California. If you are a criminal no one pays attention but if you are an armed guard people have to call and have the police check you out.
True Story: I had to provide security for a high profile client's jet airplane at a Houston area airport. However, I was designated to the perimeter of the fence and was to observe it from the outside of the airport property. Of course, some person contacted the police anonymously and all of a sudden there is a Law Enforcement officer that rolls up behind my vehicle. I get out in full uniform and address all of her questions. She seems very to be a bit on edge and it made me feel a certain way but I maintained my composure. I did not have all the details of the client information, however I just offered to call my supervisor to answer anymore questions she may have. There were a couple of instances were I did have my hands in my pocket, ready to get my cell phone, but she took that as a threat and put her hand on her weapon. So I followed her orders to get my hand out of my pocket. Long story short, we contacted my supervisor and he cleared everything up. I was instructed by the Law Enforcement Officer to not stay stationary at this location but I can ride around and make periodic checks on the jet plane. My supervisor agreed to the terms and that is exactly what I did.
That response is actually normal. You hop out of a vehicle when officers are approaching you to make contact with you, that makes them super on edge because on their training, when you jump out, theres a very real possibility you're either going to flee or draw a weapon on them. The hands in the pockets is also another officer safety issue. That officer may not know if you have a weapon or not. She doesn't know you personally or know your background or what you do. People need to remember that when a cop talks to you. They aren't psychics who are supposed to know you inside and out. You're a random off the street until they gauge who you are by interaction. Plus in our industry, you can literally have anything. From ghetto talking soup sandwiches to professionals.
@@shadowhunter388 theyre getting out of their vehicle with a gun and it makes me scared, surprised snd on edge. I feel more comfortable being on even footing as a fellow citizen of this country.
@@Jcaeser187 well what you feel is not relevant for how the police consider it. IT's not smart to jump out you car when approached by LE and never put you hands in your pocket.
I do not think that the local LE needs to be consulted on private dealings. A crime has not been committed so there is no need for governmental oversight. Methinks this to be low-level tyranny.
While technically I agree, in some circumstances it may not be a bad idea to notify the local PD you are working in the area. Even other / outside PD's notify the local PD when they are operating in their area. It's just a courtesy. I'd put it like this, if you are doing unarmed security but it's mostly inside a dwelling or private property than no biggie, that occurs all day every day, no need to notify PD. But if your are doing armed exterior patrols AND it's as new account, maybe it's a new area for a start up security company etc., then maybe it's a good idea to extend a courtesy and give the local PD a heads up. Again, I agree you don't have to, that is and should never be a requirement, what occurs on private property is literally no business of the police aka government agents. To end things on a positive note, most police welcome a security presence and will be cordial like these two were.
3:58 cop said to call the police department and notify them you have arrived to fulfill your contract with a client by being on your post. Ummm that’s not a requirement by the state. The state does not require P.P.O. and Guards to call the police every time you arrive at a property. Possibly as a courtesy but it’s not at all enforceable by police. Otherwise the police department would be getting hundreds of phone calls every hour about security arriving at every property. That Cop must be a rookie and needs to be trained about what security can and cannot do. It’s wise when starting a new property to carry a photo copy in a binder of the agreement between the security company and client. You can show that to the police if they have questions. It’s obvious the neighbor called the police and was just being a Good Samaritan. Neighbor Watch should always be encouraged. The security officer should carry in the binder a copy of the P.P.O. License & Insurance or Bond. The security should always have their Guard Card on their person whenever on duty or working as a private security guard. Since this is a temporary standing post posted signs doesn’t seem necessary but if it was long term it would be wise to have the company post a sign stating this property is patrolled by ‘Company Name’ PPO license number, phone number and applicable trespassing penal codes that meet the licensing authority guidelines or state statute for signs. This would include letter sizes and colors and backgrounds so that the sign is legal and can be enforced. In this specific situation a binder should be kept on site and passed down to each person coming on shift at the shift debrief. Otherwise this was a great police encounter. As a courtesy it would be nice to let the officers know your are recording on a body camera. If they ask why you are recording it’s because you have a high profile client and the owner of the security company uses footage to manage his or her staff.
I agree with what you're you are saying I think that what the officer was trying to get at was that maybe the company that the Guard works for could have sent out a form letter a memo, or some type of communication between the company and the police department that would inform them what was going on. But also not required.
Yeah but i mean he’s armed and they are just concerned but yeah i kinda agree with you because they should’ve gathered informations before calling the cops.
One of the biggest reasons I left the U.S 11 years ago, as a hispanic I went thru hell in neighborhoods like this one with racist neighborhs. Shit! even out in public eating a meal like in a restaurant I cough shit from people. One time a family next to our table, the husband told his wife to move the purse away from melike I was going to search it while I drive a 100k car. The clown in the video "sorry man can't be to safe", bet if the guard was white this would have never been. He prob would have talked to him and asked about sports and what type of gun he had for work. Fuck! I do not miss living there and I loved Growing up in Boulder Colorado.
@@rubencastro2247 I know this comment is two years old, but it pisses me off when people say if he was "white" I have did a lot of different jobs and I treat everyone the same. I don't care if you're hispanic, black, asian, etc... If people and the media would quit talking about black and white we wouldn't have these problems. This is why everyone thinks white people are racist and black people are criminals, etc...
Good for him. Why give the cops unnecessary stress? If your legit, with nothing to hide, cooperate so things can move quickly and smoothly. If you got a chip on your shoulder, be a knucklehead and end up with a shiny boot up your butt.
I work in security in California and I encourage all peace officers to run checks on guards because alot of them are not licensed or impersonation for criminal activity which happens all the time.
@@sylent6 officers can run what they want but unless I've broken a crime I don't ID for anything unless it's warranted. If I'm working I'm not going through a BS process that warranted a stop just because I was wearing a security uniform. That neighbor is a problem.
1) “Probable Cause,” 2) “Just Cause,”&/or 3) “Reasonable Suspicion,” not “Just Because” (otherwise we’re living under totalitarianism, which I NEVER want to live under)…
@@elgeneralxx It's funny you say that because I was in the Marines and then went into the Army Reserve. I was a 88M in the Army, a truck driver for anyone who doesn't know. I helped more people in my life driving a semi and doing Security than I ever did in the Service. For instance, I hauled Food, and I hauled fuel in a tanker. People can't go anywhere with out food, or fuel. Doing Security I have helped kids locate their parents, I have helped a lot of Police find people they were looking for, etc... There is good and bad in every profession. Same as Police. I know great Cops and I know terrible ones also.
Love this. Like someone else stated, literally anyone can buy a security setup from Amazon and Safe Life Defense, etc. and say they're doing security or theyre a bail agent. I dont blame these Peace Officers one bit for asking for identification. They wouldnt be doing their jobs if they weren't making sure people kitted out arent just ransacking homes lol.
ya that cop was being extra. I understand checking up making sure he is legit. he checked his ID his credentials ran him in his system questioned the shit out of him that should have been enough. then asking to get info on the client and calling his boss to get the info to call the owners of the house and shit idk I am an armed guard I have repour with officers where I am but this was some over the top shit, in my opinion anyway.
Well thats what his supervisor should have done. He should have contacted local law enforcement and told them they will have armed security at the job site. Makes it so you don't have to run into these issues
There is a job opening at Black Mesa, I got a phone call from Gordon Freeman. He said it's easy money and nothing exciting happens and it's a very laid back job. SHOULD I TAKE THE JOB?
I'm an armed security officer in Texas and they actually do this all the time I've been audited many times by HPD and it's nothing wrong at all for them to do it's part of their job
A California Peace Officer can request to see your guard card, armed endorsement at any time you are on duty in California. Pretty standard. Don’t forget your paperwork guys. Going to guess that the officer who said show my partner is an FTO. The Officer checking the boxes was doing a very thorough job…
Having Worked armed security myself you got put in a bad situation, working for one individual post outside his premises..most of the security I did was in a gated community, the property owners kept security there around the clock, but everyone know what was going on only time police interacted with us is when they stopped to come to gate and talk about nothing are ask if we were ok..but security companies do this where they just give you some random job and have you fend for yourself...been through it before.
All those questions are absurd from the Police. The Armed Security Officer should have said can you contact your Supervisor because I, am in full uniform as Security here at this location. Don't need to treat me like a common criminal suspect.
Cops and security are suppose to be working together it’s in the security course you take Obviously when he handed him his credentials then that should have clarified who he was
Guards vs officers.. It's image and additude, u look like a mall cop u get fkd with, ur uniform and FULL belt looks pro u get respect, take this from an ex cop in Los Angeles
Had this happen while we were serving ATM. You could see the person who called just standing across the street like they did something. Officers rolled up knew exactly who we were and just stood around BSing. One officer walked across the road and told the caller. And the caller got pissed. Must have been embarrassing for them. Clearly marked patrol car and I was very clearly marked. The called watched us use keys to open the machine then called 911.
The neighbors called and stated that there was a armed intruder. I understand that he had security credentials, however, many criminals have security uniforms and company credentials. These officers were respectful, asked the questions they needed to answer, so the next and following police shifts know there is an armed guard on premises. These officers did their due diligence. Under normal circumstances, usually the security agency will alert the Police Dispatch about the use of armed security at a residence. -Armed security at a residence is very rare. ... It happens, just rare
Ill wager the people standing outside called the police. You have to be careful with that because if it's some bullshit they know who called and where to come.
Chill conversation but cops were looking for any reason for removal. Just guard on duty apparently doing small executive client detail. Even asking questions about his car & completely separate subject. Just need show credentials & agency info & his supervisor would been plenty.
I totally applaud these police officers they’re so professional it is breathtaking to see them do their job research integrity and to be such professionals and their job so respectful I applaud them both wish we had more police officers out there doing their jobs for the cops that are out there abusing the uniform and the badge take notes this is what we the people need and want there’s no room for cops out there we already have more than enough gangs out there destroying our cities causing harm to people
I work unarmed so I don't have a gun on me however I do have some defense at my disposal and whenever the police patrol on our property they're always very friendly with me and usually give me a wave or a thumbs up. Cool guys once you get to know them, they're human just like the rest of us.
I own an armed security company. Not gonna say which state, but definitely a liberal-run one. The cops in my area are legally allowed to ask for a guard card. But that's the extent of it. Inquiring about clients is a civil matter, therefore LEOs aren't allowed to investigate such matters. They can ask all the questions they want, but I advise my team not to answer questions pertaining to private matters. Also, the DA has in small words, banned police from asking for guard cards, even though the current law says they can. Too much harassment from police has led attorneys to advise not even asking anymore. We also have to register as an entity, which elevates our position in society. Thus, police don't bother us anymore. This situation here appears to be an alarm or call-in from neighbors, and the cops are investigating and came in contact with this guard.
for 3 years i was armed security for 4 different foreign consulates and at each consulate or residence the police were notified before hand , that is common sense
im 23 and im a security at a mall and this happend to me when i was working a women was walking by me and said u are not a real security officer im calling the cops and then a few min later they came and did what these officers did.
The police often do not like security especially armed security. The security company has every right to work any site they contract with and absolutely do not need to contact the police.
For all who are saying yo notify police, we are not required to do so. But if police roll up cause of a call we are required to show company photo identification with D and G number on it and it has to be visible on uniform while working show a updated G license to open carry
I am an armed guard. I wear a uniform and plain clothes for multiple different clients. as soon as I arrive on site before I clock in on our app I phone local pd and give all info needed to save my butt and save them from making an unnecessary drive out
My security job sucks. Supposedly they did a federal background check, but they never took my fingerprints like they’re supposed to by law and now I’ve never been relieved. I’m waiting until the building opens now and I’ve never been train the whole time. I’ve been security it’s bullshit. 12 hour shifts
Depends on several factors, such as if they’re already aware you’re there, what type of location you’re working, etc. I work armed security for a local medical center, the police officers here are always extremely relaxed around us, friendly even. Honestly, they treat us like we’re law enforcement as well. No sort of hostility, or tension.
Never show ID (even security ID) unless you're suspected of a crime. Without reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime, you're not required to show your guard card. Showing without them having suspicion makes you look weak.
Bro BSIS tells you to show proof while on duty when law enforcement approaches you and asks for it 😂 are you even a guard? I get it if he was just a regular person but while working gtfo
@@HA.310 That's your lame ass state. In Florida you don't lose your rights as a citizen just because you have a security license... no suspicion of a crime, no ID, security or no security license.
@@APR1125 There are plenty of Florida crimes that someone working security could be suspected of committing due to their actions while legitimately working their assigned areas. Loitering and prowling would be one, and, if G licensed, Improper Exhibition of a Weapon.
@@None-ef6nf You don't gain reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime (required to demand ID) based on "what could be" in some hypothetical circumstance... You gain it from actually observing it first hand, and being able to testify to it. Anything else is just hypothetical nonsense. In this case, they had no reasonable articulable suspicion... So, technically, the S/O could have refused (regardless of bureaucratic red tape of regulative restriction, pertaining to his license) and would be covered in his civil liberties, civilly... had he chosen to litigate if they pushed it... No suspicion of crime, no ID. We don't go on could'a, would'a, should'a's... We go on the law, or they write a check. Simple.
@@APR1125 Are we referring to this video or Florida? Apparently in California there is a law or regulation that requires licensed security guards to present identification upon demand from LE. Obviously, Florida doesn't have that law. But again, the L&P statute is pretty broad, and despite many attacks in courts throughout the state, it has been upheld. A good case could be made that a reasonable officer could see L&P in a situation in which neighbors have called to report a suspicious person that they have never seen before standing outside a residence, especially if the neighbor knows the homeowner to be "high-profile". And of course, in Florida, if a G licensed guard is openly displaying a firearm, such an action is illegal in most cases absent a valid D and G license. The law is nuanced, and that is why law enforcement has to keep up with Court rulings, case law and changes in statutes.
nowadays in the state of CA, Security can get pretty cool gadgets like Pulse or X26 Stun Gun and even the Byrna Pepperball pistol or even the Byrna TCR. I am armed security as well and besides my main sidearm I use any weapon that throws non-lethal or less lethal projectiles since I'm not a strong person, the weapons is more like a plus strength for me and also I don't have to get too close to the suspect or bad guy and get injured from them.
@@jonathancoleman6482 nice, I heard the job for brinks or Gardaworld is somewhat alright. Also depends on your position as well. I do private security here and there for special people or small venues.
Police can ask security guards for identification. Because they are suppose to have noncommisson card if unarmed and especially commission card if armed. Evidently people across street wanted it checked out by police. One there are those that impersonite police or guards.
Damn i was doing that kinda of security in Hollywood Ca. NO PROBLEMS what so ever, Plus i had the numbers to the owner's of the Mansion plus their Assistant an we would txt when on property and off.
This went very well although to prevent this they should have told police they where in the area private investigator s as well as bail enforcement agents have too
It very wise videotape everything they do cuz when they wanted to contact the homeowner that proved that they did not believe a word he was saying again video tape it all for your attorneys
"Can we call to make sure your supposed to be here" thinks about it... never mind 😅 after dude hands his security guard license over. Yeah the dude is just standing there not getting paid 😅
