No kidding. People are so fucking stupid. They have obviously never encountered a psychopath. I was married to one. They haven't got a clue what they are saying.
creator - By reading your comments you've found the answer by explaining everyone else is stupid. Psychopaths? Some of us can make an educated guess not to marry one. Sorry you had a bad experience however.
Do not judge anyone this way, the same way you wouldn't like people to judge you. Keep this in mind. You don't know the inner world of people and don't know their private struggles. Compassion is necessary. And she is taking responsability, she was corageous to expose herself. The majority of people wouldn't have the same bravery in her place.
I think they call it GROOMING.. Isn't that what child molesters do... Make you feel REAL SPECIAL ... then they attack ... rape the children and make them like it...
I believe her and I don't think she should be judged negatively. She was a confused child (regardless if she was having sex and drugs), I am glad she found her way and lives a better life. Have compassion people.
Lake was taken in by the gang when she was fourteen and groomed by Manson and his harem. The gang occupied their abundant free time with LSD trips and group sex. When the gang was busted, Lake was placed in a psychiatric facility where she remained for eight months. Various diagnoses were suggested, including drug-induced psychosis, schizophrenia, etc. She was a sixteen year old wreck. Even if she had known that the murders were imminent, she would not have been strong enough to do anything. Let it go.
Sad. If I went to live on crazy ranch with that group my parents would have went through hell and high water to get me back. Easy target for Manson. Just terrible. 14 is extremely young. Glad she came out okay
Also a lot of these young people were runaways looking for some place to belong which is what Manson was luring them in with. Manson was a stone cold sociopath who had them completely trained to follow his orders. A master manipulator.
There's no such thing as evil. Evil is a word constructed by organised religions. Evil is in the eye of the beholder. It's subjective. Someone can do "bad" things but no one is evil.
@@kieranwilcox7739 You said "evil is in the eye of the beholder. It's subjective." Yes evil is tied to religion, because without a God as a source of morality you're left with naturalism. And good and evil don't exist within naturalism.
He talked to those girls and asked them about their childhoods. Then pretended to be what they needed. Most needed a father figure/friend. Then he would turn on them to get them to obey. They thought they let him down and were scared of him. On interviews he was like a chameleon always changing until he got the reaction he wanted.
Even as a young boy, Manson was very manipulative and was able to get other children to bend to his will. He recruited fellow students to beat up boys he didn’t like, and, when confronted by teachers, would claim that the aggressors did these acts on their own free will.
It's an unfair generalization by Amy to say Manson was representative of the "Hippy Movement." Not all "Hippies" were counter-culture, and VERY few were murderers. Mason even said himself he wasn't a Hippy and that he hated Hippies. I grew up in that era and had a lot of Hippy friends that were really good people.
Manson was never a hippy. He just used the right jargon of the time to draw in his cult members. He was a sociopath who probably though he landed in Shangri La and these young people were ripe for the pickens. I think it's sad that these kids badically had the misfortune of running into this Manson. He killed and ruined so many people lives. They never would've killed anybody if they never met him.
@@johnb.8687 our terrorist country usa killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people by attackign small defenseless countries for no ligit reason and many of us americans refuse to hold our country adn our people responsible
I agree, I also feel that this cult probably would have continued killing and would've been much lower profile if a pregnant actress hadent been sadly murdered.
He got these girls because he understood female psychology. So long as you can make a woman *feel* a certain way, you can get her to do anything you want.
The same goes for men. I have watched office tramp after office tramp destroy families by whispering in a gullible man’s ear. In the end, no one finds happiness.
Dianne Lake was 14 yrs. old, and she joins the Charles Manson family !! Where were her parents, why did her parents allow their 14 yr. old kid leave home and join some cult ? Something was not right with her and her parents !
Michael Stewart......How exactly do parents 'dropped out' and 'abandon' her? Did they leave Dianna Lake at a side of the road; or did they leave her at some church footsteps or a local hospital? I don't buy it !!
Her parents were hippies. They abandoned her. They "dropped out". That was a term back in the 60's for turning your back on anything and everything to do with society and responsibility. You kids have this romantic vision of hippies. You are all delusional. Dianne was thrown away by parents who encouraged her to do drugs and live that disgusting lifestyle. You don't have to buy it; that's what happened. Thank goodness she was rescued by normal people after all this mess.
The comment area is filled with special people. They have trouble listening and reasoning. Thank God she wrote this book. Finally. A real "survivor" tells the story of what went on there. The commentators think they have control over their children. Just wait.
I'm a clinically diagnosed "sociopath" (ASPD). Sociopaths are most definitely capable of love. Did he actually love her? Probably not, but demonizing the disorder as an incapacity for love is pure ignorance, babe.
"Member of the Family" has been by far the most honest of all the books written by ex-members. It details just how abusive, violently moody, and manipulative Manson could be. The fact that Miss Lake has never had to face a parole board is probably key to that honesty. Lake was a victim of her parents' drug use. They are the ones who introduced her to drugs, including LSD. C'est la vie.
Just recently read her book and I really really felt for her. Her parents where drop outs from society and bought into the some crap a lot of people did in the 60s. Shockley her first acid trip was giving to her by her own parents!!! That’s how she was lead into being involved with these nutcases. They did not represent the counterculture of the 1960s. Mason just used it to groom people and restructure their beliefs into his. As brainwashed as she became she did not participate in the murders and helped but him and the rest behind bar. I really suggest reading her book!
The question should be how one end up in a cult and why do we blame a leader more than the members themselves? Simplifying that it's all down to drugs and freedom of group sex is not good enough. Please watch some related videos on Larry King Show where Mr Bulgosi says something really significant to it all.
I am the same age as Diane, times were different then. Her worthless parents virtually gave her to Manson with nowhere else to go she complied. How was your judgement at 14?
She still is following him . She secretly is still emotionally attached to him in some sort of way. She was 14 and she should be thankful she is still alive and not in prison for murdering these people. I hope she realizes that. She could have been very easily been manipulated into doing all kinds of things that would have changed her life forever. She seems like a person that could be drawn in his world. He was very good at picking certain people to do his bidding.
@@hridi_ no kidding, but at the time she was laughing about it with TEX. She also exhibits behavior that is akin to attention seeking and romanticizing. She clearly is living in the past and is peddling her book. She just wants the $. If I'm wrong and she doesn't want the $$$, then she should donate ALL proceeds to the organization Doris Tate founded. If that is no longer in existence then donate the proceeds to a different victim's rights org. She's just looking for her 15 minutes. Ugh.
bainsgate100 maybe that’s true. Maybe that’s not. It’s really unfair to say these things about him just by watching an interview. I mean I don’t know about you, but I’m not an expert no matter how much crime documentaries I watch. She was abandoned by her parents, was given acid as a child, was brainwashed by a cult leader, spent years in mental hospital. But she seemed to turn her life around. She testified against Manson which helped the victims’ case. If I was her, I would love to have some cash after that shitty life to enjoy my retirement
It doesn't matter if any of the killers repent, show remorse or good behavior. The victims are still dead. Even if the killers show recovery, the victims will always be dead
People were more impressionable in the sixties because of the rebellious nature of so called innocent young generation. Manson exploited his younger "family" he never had. It's not hard to imagine.
Wasn't Lake like, obsessed with Charlie?? I've read almost every book on Manson and the Manson Family and in at least 2 or 3 of them it talks about how crazy she was for Charlie. How she'd get insanely jealous if he was ever with another one of the girls.
She was 14 and on drugs. Teenage girls tend to be jealous without drugs, substances have a way of taking away what rational thought you do have. That's not that far fetched. Also it's been 50 years I think people are allowed to change within that time span.
There's nothing wrong in telling your story. If people are curious and willing to buy, then what's the big deal? Are you bothered you don't have a story to tell?
@beatle pete she didn't kill anyone and she was a victim who testified against him. She's just telling her horrible experience in a book, nothing more. What blood money? You're so overdramatic 🙄
She was 14. My former co-worker, Mike, was going to Spahn Ranch, when he was 10 years old. He rode his bike there. He lived in Chatsworth. He was a cute kid, I guess, blonde hair, blue eyes. he said he liked it there, because the girls would fuss over him. He said Charlie talked to him a few times. When the caretaker found out, he said a boy that young had no business there, and forbade his return. We are still friends.
I wish people would stop interviewing her... I'm getting tired of her.... She wasn't involved in any of the crimes so this is her way I'm getting some attention like everybody.... Let it go and be quiet go live your life
Parenting back then was not strict like it is now. Back then you could basically beat your kids and it would be okay. And while I do believe you should be able to give your own kids a good smack every once in awhile, that's totally something you'd go to jail for today. Such a sad, sad world we live in.
I would try to stay away from anything having to do with him. That's why I feel as if she still adores him. Look at her. Something's wrong with her. Hope no one buys the Damm book.
she didn't watch shit. She testified and helped put the actual killers away. And unlike some others it wasn't to get herself off of charges, as she had nothing serious charged against her. as soon as she was jailed with other family members in one of the raids she used the safety of not being alone with them, to get out. She was then adopted by one of the detectives working on the case and became a normal, healthy, functional part of society.
Phil B well it helps that she hasn’t been in prison for over a century and has been living free and had the privilege of having a new family and children of her own.
No one knew or talked about the emotional manipulation or mind control tactics of narcissists, sociopaths or psychopaths back then plus we were in the middle of a counter culture of rebellious teens of that time. The baby boomers coming of age...so glad it's over.
La manipulación!! Mental es increíble cuando la inocencia i la ignorancia de los jóvenes!! No entienden!! Q hay un peligro alrededor de ellos!! Toltalmente!! Inaceptable!!🤷🏼♀️🙅♀️
I agree with her 100% ,what bother me is it took 50years because she was healing,here is my point of view is,deep down in her heart she is blindsided by love fore Charles mansion !!!!
Religion tells you humans can be a god and make prophecies. It really isn't that much of a surprise people make these conclusions, especially when young.
*I think she's quite credible in her account of the commune group around C. Manson as she's got nothing to lose* *Unlike the saving-face story as told by P. Krenwinckel
There were people who were in charlie's group brought in by the overly friendly girls. Charlie would say its my way or the highway. They left fast bc they knew they would be hurt if they stayed, and smart enuff to not want to be told what to do/think. The smart ones left or got beat/killed by telling him no
They were all mainly hippies and hippies did hangout in many many groups. If anyone lived on Spahn Ranch which has a lot of rattle snakes and you were a ranch hand like Manson wouldn't you give everyone at least a knife to protect yourself from the snakes there, and show them how go use it. Much better than everyone having guns. Also Manson was 40 miles away when Tex led all the assaults to kill people . I hope Tex stays in jail then ends up in eternal hell as he was the ring leader in the murders.
All you people need to seriously read the book before you judge this woman. The first half is about her younger years. It will make sense why she ended up where she did at 14. Her parents were truly fucked.
corrolla A shame it wasn't you to make the profound comment given you're eagerness to insult thoughts of others. Good luck to you with the next one ...
These women never took responsibility for what they did! Just because a man tells you that you are special you doesn't kill innocent people. imagine every woman who heard this from a man would become a murderer.
MIRACLES NOT ONLY HAPPEN BUT THEY ARE ACCELERATING TODAY JUST AS *EVIL* IS AS WELL! WE ARE IN THE *BIBLICAL PROPHECY* "END TIMES" & ONLY GOD CAN "DELIVER" ALL THOSE ENSLAVED TO THE *OCCULT DARK-SIDE* !!!
All interviews of her are different word for the same question, while Charles gives the same words for any of the same questions. She can make a money whatever way she want and seems that she’s doing it. I’m in nobody’s side because there’s no need to be. I just disagree the world having to make such publicity and crab for this type of history when there were bigger names locked away that nobody has a clue of because it’s not that they heard. Sayonara~
She thinks he was used for evil. Still childish at that age. Manson was the jolly architect of his actions. And an unbelievable ego trip duping all those obedient females. No other force.
Ugh, please. All she is doing is peddling her book. She never mentions that she LAUGHED when they told her they killed those 8 people (baby included) now she's acting appalled?! She is still romanticizing about her love-in with CM. It's so obvious. She's disgusting. Wonder if she's friends with TEX.
Her last name is Lake, she bears an uncanny resemblance to serial killer Leonard Lake...and she grew up in a hippie commune in California....like Leonard Lake. There is no mention of them being related, on the net or otherwise. It’s very weird
blaine shafer. It doesn`t matter, it was his gang. Same concept as the mob. Mafia bosses get sent away because of other peoples` actions. That's just how it is.
What people forget is that it WAS NOT that Manson's followers were rebelling against their dads. Most often they did not HAVE dads, or their dads left. And Charles Manson was happy to step into the role of father figure.
They were all drugged up. That's no excuse but maybe if they weren't , the murders might have not happened. I would have to think a person would not be in their right mind to do such a horrible crime, especially because those girls were so young. I was 19 when this happened and got married that next month, I remember how horrified I was hearing about the murders. I was never in the hippie seen, I had a loving Family life, thank God.
How disgusting that this person is making money off of murder victims. Regardless if she testified against “the family” or not she knew of the murders and kept silent. She also went into hiding with the group. Now she is using those same memories to sell her book. Her smugness on the Dr. Phil show was truly repugnant. She should donate ALL of the book’s proceeds to a crime victims advocate group.
Vicki Carpenter I don't know if she is making money off the murder victims. I don't think the book is about the murders since she wasn't there to be a witness. It's an inside story to a strange cult during an interesting time in history. If she can make money from the book, I don't have a problem with it.
hana777amanuel And when you write a book, there is no guarantee that you will make money. Some people despise former inmates and crooks because when their sentence is over, people think they can just write a book and make millions of dollars. Doesn't always work out that way. However, with Charlie dying yesterday, the timing of the book could not be better. "They gave her the gory details with an attitude of glee." Wow. Some of the Manson family were definitely fanatical/evil.
Who in the world would admit to knowing Hitler? Well, his secretary did. She survived the war and stayed silent for decades to protect herself. But towards the end of her life she realized that once she was gone their would be no one left to tell the story so she wrote a book. The movie "Downfall" is based on her book. Both her book and the movie serve as warnings to future generations so they don't repeat the same mistakes again.
The Manson group quickly became a criminal gang. They devoted their abundant free time to group sex during acid trips. Enlightenment didn't get into it.
Just watch interviews with all the followers, including Charles Watson`s account. I'm just repeating how they explain it, in summary. That's what they all say they were doing, `searching`.
