Your 8K TV Questions, Answered | You Asked Ep. 37 

Why is this not in 8k? Come on, Caleb. /S

I've just recently purchased my first 4K TV, gonna be at least a decade before I think about 8K

I'm still waiting for 4k on my sat TV !

I think one other problem was how fast they announced 8K. That’s like buying a dvd player and then a few months later advertising blu-ray! When it comes to this market, you can’t announce expensive items like this too soon. TVs are long term investments. I laughed really hard when 4K content was barely a thing when 8K was being announced.

We can't even get enough bandwidth to reliably broadcast TV in real 4K after more than a decade, let alone 8K. Not gonna happen anytime soon unless things drastically change with data transfer speeds and bandwidth

Caleb, you are the man..... You really know how to take a topic and make it enjoyable. Thanks bro.

I like the thorough coverage of a single topic.

WRT the "lack of 8k content" fact... It might be worth mentioning how big a file a 130 minute 8k HDR (Dolby Vision for example) with a full Atmos multi-channel lossless audio track would have to be... I don't personally know the answer or have the data to do the math but I believe it is safe to say that with only one language, no extras, and minimal windows a single feature film on CURRENT media would require at least 4 disk changes or flips... maybe even twice that when you multiply the number of pixels by the colour depth and then add 16 channels of uncompressed audio... Short of introducing another brand new device, and the inevitable format war the only real way to buy or transport a full fidelity feature film would be giant capacity thumb drives... The cost of the media is cheaper than it used to be but it's still many orders or magnitude higher than a pressed aluminum and lacquer sandwich that can be produced by the thousands in a press... I can't see a time in the near future where it would be worth streaming 8k...I have 1.5Gb dedicated fiber internet and I can clearly see and hear the reduction in quality of any stream vs a 4k UHD HDR disk. The streaming service would have to host much bigger files (4x or more) before you even talk about the fidelity lost in the bandwidth limitations or compression for transfer. Oh... There's also the fact that any movie shot digital is not shot at 8k anyway so an "8k" copy would just be an upscale anyway... and original "shot on film" movies would have to be scanned at 8k one frame at a time to be actual 8k... (and all the manipulation required to get an HDR colour grading and and the creation of a lossless audio track... Things move quickly so maybe it will be a faster transition but I will remain quite sceptical.

I only watch Seinfeld reruns on my 16K.

The kind of PQ I'm getting watching this 'you asked' series on my 65S95C, I don't need 8k. Today's camera work is top notch, the lighting is perfect, the skin tone looks so natural and detailed. Wish all yt content was this quality as benchmark.

Excellent video and format. I love the singular focus on an important topic. Thank you.

Caleb, thx for clarifying the 8k conundrum! Your video was fantastic keep up the good work!

love the new format 👍👍👍

This so feels like 3D TV's and content back in the day. The way things have been going so far, seems like widespread 8K is not going to be a thing, just as it happened with 3D.

As always Caleb thank you for the direct, no beating around the bush answers. 😊

I think there's a whole lot more to be discussed on this topic Caleb. Faux 8K content is coming sooner than organic 8K. AI upscaling is going to be the big push towards getting consumers to upgrade. I expect the marketing to shift from HD UHD etc to processing power upscaling tech and partnerships with Nvidia, AMD, and the big TV manufacturers. Content creators will settle into 4K and allow the consumers and their hardware/software to up res it. We haven't even discussed cloud computing being utilized by streaming services to offer a higher tier that upscales their content. Many will remember hitting pause to allow an online video time to load up for smoother, better quality playback. We aren't likely getting 8K content in physical media ever unless some niche tech emerges that makes it worthwhile.

Another good topic. Thanks.

Wow 37 episodes already great job love these you asked videos always interesting and informative

Thank you for answering my question. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

Great video man - Cheers 👍🏻

4K didn’t really take off until HDR entered the picture (pun intended or not). I never noticed the resolution difference between a HD and 4K set without HDR content. So I propose that we need Super Ultra HDR for 8K that even goes beyond BT2020 colorspace. 8K must support 100k nits 😂 also. Of course I’m joking but adding resolution isn’t going to be a game changer just like it was for 4K. 8K needs more than just more pixels. It needs something that’s obviously an improvement over what many quality 4K sets can already do.

Nailed it, as usual Caleb. Great video 🤘

Great breakdown, Caleb. Really helped illustrate how in depth of a question this really is.

Nice review keep up the good work

Really good video. Agree with the thesis 100%.

Thanks for an interesting 8K themed episode of You Asked! Well done!

Excellent video

2:20 Actually, way back in 1995, when Japanese scientists from NHK were developing 8k, they named it 8k Super Hi-Vision.

Good information

I honestly don't care about 8k, I want 16k TVs to watch proper IMAX movies.

One of the advantages of 4k is that you can go back to catalog content shot on 35mm film and make the definitive release with resolution roughly equal to the original negative. That way you can match the new content you're mastering in 4k with beloved classics. Studios have been pretty slow to actually do that, but it's slowly happening. But you can't really do that in 8k. Only a very select number of older films and TV would see any benefit from an 8k master. Basically only 70mm epics, docuentaries shot for IMAX and Nolan films.

I think 8K as a video resolution only makes sense in VR where the content has to fill your whole field of view. I can already confirm you can very much notice the difference between 4K and 8K in VR180. It is extremely noticeable. Night and day.

The 108' jumbo screen at Yankee Stadium is only 1080P, and NO ONE complains about the pixels. Unless you are so close your field of view would only take in a small portion of the screen.

I have been in video production for many years. I can remember the day when I thought buying 1080 cameras should be left to Hollywood, and now my cell phone shoots 4k at 60fps. My... how times are changing!

Good video. I am sticking to my 4k OLED.

Integer scaling of 720, 1080, 1440 and 4k content as well

8k TVs drove the price of 4k TVs down so everybody went out and bought 4k TVs and forgot about 8k

Caleb I saw your Hisense U8N unboxing video, and that tv looks awesome. Can't wait for that review, I know that tv is going to be a major power house player for 2024 and 2025.

small correction. 720p=HD and 1080=FHD

Good one 😂 Caleb, but I don't think many of us hard working Americans get out as much anymore, so don't apologize, you do great research & provide awesome content.

I'm happy I bought my QN800A 8K in late 2021 once the B models were released - i.e., price reduction on the As! The upscaling is welcomed and the RU-vid content that's touted as 8K (and even 12K) looks absolutely stellar. I "only" have a Samsung 65inch 8K, but it sure brings a smile to my face when seeing the highest def content out there playing on the screen. No complaints about spending the money on it.

“The Struggle Bus”?! 😂

Great video as allways but iam still waiting for your review for lg g4 oled 🙏

We're still many years away from 8K being even close to relevancy. There's not even that much content that fully utilizes 4K yet and for the vast majority of people they won't be able to even percieve the difference between 4K and 8K

Great topic! You've made a valid point about the Gigabit internet requirement for accessing 8K content, which unfortunately isn't readily available to many users in North America, particularly those in rural areas. The underlying issue lies in the inadequate internet infrastructure. Until Gigabit internet becomes universally accessible at reasonable prices, 8K TVs will remain primarily accessible to urban dwellers and affluent individuals. In my view, 4K resolution meets the needs of most users admirably.

We are closing to the 10 year upgrade cycle weve been seeing for physical media. Do you think there will be an update? If so will it be 8k, or just higher bitrate 4k discs. I feel like regardless of content, someone like sony has to make an improvement atleast on disc file sizes, especially due to video game sizes balooning again

Agree 100%/Also just curious, would 5g Home Internet T Mobile/Verizon be fast enough for 8k streaming?

Best thing about 8K. It’s made my cheap outdoor Roku 65 inch TV’s come in around $250 from Walmart ♥️

Love the new hairstyle

Requesting You to start including power rating of the TVs in your reviews. Will be helpful

A lot of people’s internet wouldn’t even be close to being able to stream 8k as you mentioned. So many different factors.

Eye-ronically 😂

I'm waiting for those g4 and c4 reviews caleb.

Who has room for an 85 to 98 inch tv in the home? 🤔🤷‍♂️

I'm thinking of buying a TV to use as a Home Office (Mostly MS apps like Word, Excel, PPT e.t.c). I womt be upclose, my viewing distance will be about 2 meters. I'm torn between an 8K or QD OLED option and between a 55 or 65 inch option . Which will produce clearer and crispier text?

Is it possible to have an HDR encoding on 1080p content? Say, if they used 100GB disk to store the extra hdr info. Or is there any hard wiring of HDR only to go with 4K? Wondering if they have to coin something like 'dynamic HDR DHDR, or Xtream HDR XHDR' with 8K to make the 8K media sellable.

i think the end game target is 16k/1000hz.

When’s the Hisense U8N review coming?

Thanks very much for this episode. We are now and will never be in a foreseeable future situation able to have a larger display than 65". Done deal. Get a 65" LG C3 TV and enjoy it until the day we die. Easy - peasy!

I remember 20 some years ago seeing regular HDTVs being $5-6000 at Best Buy. Those prices really crashed around 2006.

Caleb, where can you get those awesome camo t-shirts from??

Since you are doing a n 8k video, was wondering why you have not reviewed the 98" 8k you mentioned just before you left for CES? Been close to 4 months

Qn900c to be replaced by 900d 85 inch this summer,,,feed it 4k and 8k u tube it’s amazing…😮😮

You should look at the Insta360 A4 camera. 360 surround video (and pics) PLUS 8K ....and even 11K mode. A lot of pretty cool features.

Do the 8k TVs do a sufficient job of upscaling? YES, i would agree with your 98"+ screen size comment. If your looking at 98" or larger TV then it could be worth the investment, if the technology in the 8k TVs is going to hold up until more 8k content comes out.

Another thing that would help 8K TV sales would be a new super highly efficient video CODEC that would allow the streaming (and storage/distribution?) of high-quality 8K video without too much more bandwidth than 4K (so a lot more people could use it). This might overnight change things, just as TIFF and JPEG did for digital cameras, and the number of video CODEC's we use now for 4K-and-under. I remember watching Apple Events in the late 1990's with QuickTime and probably a sub-2Mbps internet connection. Boy we have come a long way. But good video Caleb.

My Canon R5c Camera has an 8K sensor and captures to several formats in true 8K. RU-vid offers the capability and I can upload in that resolution. The problem is, you have to hope that the RU-vid app integrated into the television supports 8K in order to view it because unless you’re viewing on a PC there really isn’t another option.

My first HD tv was a Pioneer Kuro 50” plasma… I paid $5000 for that TV in 2007… I still have that tv and It still has absolutely amazing picture quality and perfect black levels… I was laughed at when I bought that tv… 8K is way ahead of its time.

Beed to get rid iver all 720p 1080i tvs first..make 4k even more affordable

Don’t apologize for the dad jokes - us old fart greybeards need to steal from all the sources we can.

I think that just like any time the next step up in resolution is around the corner for the first few years only consumers doing their own recordings or watching their photos on the new high resolution TVs can make sense of getting one. Streaming in 4K in good quality is still difficult to get in the first place so I am not ready to jump on the 8k wagon for a long time

Been using a 55" 8K TV as my monitor for a year and a half. Paired with DisplayFusion as a window manager it's basically like "spatial computing" the Apple Vision Pro is going for but with a physical display.

So I have a question. For people with light sensitivity, do modern TV's that push HDR brightness have controls to limit the highlights? I know it sounds counter intuitive, but if you have light sensitivity it can be difficult to deal with high peak brightness and pure blacks with quick scene changes.

I’ve been wanting an 8k (pixel shifter) JVC projector for a while. But at this point I keep waiting for new models to be announced. What’s the typical time between new models releasing?

Hi Caleb, I have an idea for a topic: OLED TVs/monitors. How long do the organic materials last, and should that matter vs VA/IPS based full array mini-LED TV's? Why do companies keep pushing mini-LED tech forward when OLEDs have better overall contrast and backlight control with self-emitting LEDs -- is it just a matter of cost or rarity of materials or the technology required to drive them? Why do many LED TVs consume so much more power than OLED -- is it because of the brighter output? If a smaller 4K OLED TV or monitor (say, under 42-inch) is dimmer because the pixels are smaller, and therefore less light can pass through, could it last longer than a large, bright 83-inch OLED? Would a company want to make a huge OLED TV that burns twice as bright but only half as long as a smaller set? (Sorry for the Blade Runner reference. I, too, don't get out much these days.) Thanks!

My local best buy had the new 8k Samsung model on display and it looked stunning when looking from a close distance; unfortunately it was twice the price I could get for the OLED flagship so I wound up going for the S95D instead. So price is absolutely an issue there

Caleb, glad you called out the ridiculousness of bandwidth caps. It's crazy to me how many people under a certain age now defend caps, often repeating pretty much verbatim the ISP's own rhetoric for justifying them. I guess the natural result of a generation of kids raised on smartphones and their pricing tiers: they've all been indoctrinated to think of the caps as perfectly reasonable. ;)

Considering the quality of the latest OLED & MicroLED TVs on the market now and coming soon(Sony's recently announced 2024 lineup)8K is no longer as droolworthy to me. The PQ we have now and will be getting from 4K will keep 98+% of us very happy for the foreseeable future. At some point though, the major manufacturers will hit that wall and realize "Okay, we've taken 4K as far as it can possibly go, and sales have plateaud and begun to slide, so we're gonna have to make an industry push for 8K now." But we're at least a few years away yet, and none of them seem very motivated to make that push again. They've realized what Caleb said about the cost of 8K vs the demand and the availability of 8K content. When for now, the fact that the vast majority of people are content with 4K and the PQ of the latest TVs being what they are, there's simply not enough incentive for the industry and the public to make a major investment in 8K. If you already have one of those pinnacle 8K products, and at mammoth screen size, then you're sitting pretty with no reason to complain.

What ISP still has caps?

I can see pixels on anything above 55”.

One of the key special things about 8K displays is that they can integerly scale all of the mainstream lower 16:9 resolutions that have come before it, in both the TV and monitor space: 4K, 1440p, 1080p, 720p. I think all 8K displays of the future from today onwards, both TVs and monitors, should be engineered to properly display all integer scaled lower resolutions at proportionally and progressively higher refresh/frame rates. Even though 8K motion images will not be very impressive for a long time due to the huge frame and refresh rate demands of the 8K resolution, there are so many things still that make sense for the world to start transitioning to 8K displays as long as manufacturers engineer them to display properly the different combinations of integer-scaled lower resolutions/higher refresh rates.

I think it would be really interesting to get an explainer about upscaling. For instance, why is it hard for a 4k panel to show a 480p image that looks good? Why does it take so much processing power? Why are some brands better than others at it?

On RU-vid every video is max 2160p but that’s no 4K right ?

I think it's high time these TV manufacturers put 8K TV to the top

Are there some content that would have a large benefit at 8k? The Puck in hockey is tiny and isn't the same as the big beautiful flowers always put up to show picture quality. Depth of field, can creators make use?

I would want an 8k 3D TV. Being able to watch a movie in true 4K in each eye would be so nice.

8k projectors would be nice. As long they were affordable for the average Joe of course!

4K is all that we need. 4K would pulverize the computer and gaming business! You still have a hard time running 4K gaming and current computer parts were designed to expedite 4K in every way, those were problems. 8K is not needed and is really only for very large TV's.

I bought a JVC laser projector and the 8K facility was a bonus…

Hisense 100 u7k vs sony 98 x90l which is better ?

When is your Hisense U8N review dropping??

How are gigabit networks priced over there? There is a $15/m flat fee for gigabit in Bulgaria

I don’t see an 8K tv anywhere in my future. I’m toying with upgrading from 55” to 65” 4K when next year’s tvs come in.

How about having 4K TVs that support FRL6, first? What is the point of buying an 8K TV, when it cannot display 4:4:4, 12-bit images at 120Hz?

my issue with buying an 8K TV is the codec support. You don't want to buy an 8K TV only to get screwed over when a new codec designed for high resolution content like 8K is announced and it requires hardware support. Before you know it, it becomes standard everywhere and you can't benefit because you bought a TV with a SOC that doesn't have the hardware decoding for it.

I'm still kind of shocked that other than RU-vid no other main stream network or platform still don't have 8K content. A lot of movies and I'm sure steaming shows are shot in 8K, so there is a lot of 8K content out there it's just not available to the public. I shoot in 8K for my second channel using my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra. I'm still planning on buying an 85 incher 8K TV. Perhaps this summer. And I'm still waiting for 8K blu-rays lol. Gr8 vid as usual. 📺 🇺🇸

I think the Industry is definitely ready for 8K TV's, it's been quite a while since 4K debuted. In terms of storing and transmitting 8K video, the world is most certainly not ready. But that's what upscaling comes into play, the processing power and development of AI for this specific task has caught up and is capable.. where as when 8K first was previewed the technology wasn't there to do it well enough.

Doe it feel like IMAX in living room? How about IMAX RATIO in 8K? Good opportunity for IMAX licencing.

Is it possible to upscale 4K content to 8K on such a tv? And what player would be able to that?

My TCL 75x925 8k Mini-Led. The replacement offers were only 4k Oledds. The 85" U8 Hisense replacement is a bland, textureless blurry picture.