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Your connected car is SNITCHING to your insurance company! (How to stop) 

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In Episode 3 of Sigma Talks I unravel the drama surrounding connected cars' manufacturers leaking GPS data to a third-party data broker who then sells it to automotive insurers, as reported in the Washington Post.
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@Peter-jo3wt
@Peter-jo3wt 3 месяца назад
This is why I drive antique cars
@thesigmaworkshop
@thesigmaworkshop 3 месяца назад
Yeah after pulling the OnStar fuse I realized it killed Bluetooth phone functionality. Ooof. Wonder if there's another solution that allows what I need and gets rid of what I don't want.
@brucie7350
@brucie7350 3 месяца назад
Good thing I like my old iron.
@kurtzxcvb3481
@kurtzxcvb3481 3 месяца назад
Pop off the trim starting at the push button start pull two number seven millimeter screws slide infotainment center forward there are two card-like VCR style cassettes behind bottom one is the ticket slide it out for four torx head screws you'll see a motherboard split the motherboard in half the bottom board has two connections for antennas three torque screws remove reassemble and now you no longer have OnStar
@thesigmaworkshop
@thesigmaworkshop 3 месяца назад
The More You Know🌈🌠
@ramcharger1978
@ramcharger1978 3 месяца назад
“Snitches Should Get Stitches”
@thesigmaworkshop
@thesigmaworkshop 3 месяца назад
tru
@mypharo
@mypharo 3 месяца назад
How do you turn off OnStar tracking? Although you can simply unsubscribe from the service, the OnStar hardware continues to track how you use your vehicle, even if you remove its fuse. The only way to completely eliminate OnStar is to physically disconnect the module from your vehicle.Jun 6, 2023
@Tazytots
@Tazytots 3 месяца назад
"Whether they speed" What planet do these people live on? Literally everyone drives above the speed limit at least 5 mph. If cops don't pull you over for that, then who do they think they are increasing your insurance rate for the same thing? Lol. Wackos.
@kurtzxcvb3481
@kurtzxcvb3481 3 месяца назад
I just took out the chip in my Chevy bolt today wasn't that difficult
@keithschrack
@keithschrack 3 месяца назад
If/when your data stream becomes disabled, what prevents the insurance companies from simply placing you in the riskiest, most costly category by default?
@thesigmaworkshop
@thesigmaworkshop 3 месяца назад
Good question!
@xiondFirst
@xiondFirst 3 месяца назад
Hmmm amount data these cars collect is insane. Data Brokers are cancers.
@nobodyimportant6851
@nobodyimportant6851 3 месяца назад
If you disconnect the antenna, wonder if that stops the tracking, but still lets you use the Bluetooth.
@thesigmaworkshop
@thesigmaworkshop 3 месяца назад
I think I would have to that at the module? Wonder if the antenna is shared with FM/XM.
@mikyl-fo8rh
@mikyl-fo8rh 3 месяца назад
What makes of cars do this? Does skyactive do this?
@thesigmaworkshop
@thesigmaworkshop 3 месяца назад
I thought Skyactiv was engine management? I don't know much about Mazdas.
@beauthestdane
@beauthestdane 3 месяца назад
It's really easy, don't buy a connected car. I have two cars, neither is connected and I like it that way.
@thesigmaworkshop
@thesigmaworkshop 3 месяца назад
What you got? Which model years?
@beauthestdane
@beauthestdane 3 месяца назад
@@thesigmaworkshop My "new" car is a 2005 Outback with the base entertainment system, and I swapped out the Radio on it. Other is a 1993 Miata.
@thesigmaworkshop
@thesigmaworkshop 3 месяца назад
@@beauthestdane great choices. Wagon + roadster. Covers nearly all the bases.
@thesigmaworkshop
@thesigmaworkshop 3 месяца назад
BTW my Bluetick Coonhound puppy's name is Beau! The other's name is Luc. Video to come!
@beauthestdane
@beauthestdane 3 месяца назад
@@thesigmaworkshop Our Beau is a rescue St. Bernard/Great Dane cross. He has a St Bernard build on his body and Great Dane legs and coloring. 205lbs of slobbery drooling love. Oh, and he is an expert flinger of said drool, even hits the ceiling with it.
@lacianemkicsi6605
@lacianemkicsi6605 3 месяца назад
Old ( and awesome looking ) cars are the answer , not computers on 4 wheels. Enjoy the "comforts" of your new plastic cars!
@thesigmaworkshop
@thesigmaworkshop 3 месяца назад
#facts
@thesigmaworkshop
@thesigmaworkshop 3 месяца назад
gonna get me a W124 estate soon
@drewmurray2583
@drewmurray2583 3 месяца назад
You should try to own an older vehicle anyway. Pretty much everything built after the mid 2000's is designed to fail.
@thesigmaworkshop
@thesigmaworkshop 3 месяца назад
Especally VWs! 😜
@jimjones-pz1tt
@jimjones-pz1tt 3 месяца назад
You need to really lean into the camera. You're much too far away.
@nobodyimportant6851
@nobodyimportant6851 3 месяца назад
LOL, beat me to it
@9greatdanes981
@9greatdanes981 3 месяца назад
2005 they mandated the ability for the gooberment to turn off your car, while starting cash for clunkers all cars after 2005 can be turned off remotely
@jay_Jalapeno
@jay_Jalapeno 3 месяца назад
No they couldnt back then ... Smh ... But what do i know but i was only ase master certified . they can on newer cars but honestly anything 2010-2015 and older dont think so
@9greatdanes981
@9greatdanes981 3 месяца назад
@@jay_Jalapeno you should be able to find videos from c span that contradicts what you said. Many other the official documents say… if you don’t look into it you would believe me. Take time to research
@jay_Jalapeno
@jay_Jalapeno 3 месяца назад
@@9greatdanes981 if the car has no data connection they have no ability to get into the car software to shut it down. So that means unless the car has a data connection they can't access it.
@jay_Jalapeno
@jay_Jalapeno 3 месяца назад
@@9greatdanes981 if what you're saying was truly the case so many high-speed Pursuits in brand new cars wouldn't happen
@prof.crastinator
@prof.crastinator 3 месяца назад
Not true- the remote immobilizer was scraped when hacking potential was realized.
@damnwereinatightspot
@damnwereinatightspot 3 месяца назад
Onstar has battery backups in the vehicle and it's always connected if you pay for it or not.
@thesigmaworkshop
@thesigmaworkshop 3 месяца назад
You can physically disconnect the module tho? Should be as EZ as lifting off a connector?
@damnwereinatightspot
@damnwereinatightspot 3 месяца назад
On an inpalla there is a unit in the trunk, left side, open the box 'module' youll find batteries about the size of 18650's . My recall is vague but i believe it was the onstar mod or gps. (you'll have to remove the trunk fabric to see what im talking about.@@thesigmaworkshop
@randombuilds8336
@randombuilds8336 3 месяца назад
​@@thesigmaworkshop you can remove onstar, but GM doesn't like it. A guy I worked with at ft bliss bought a new truck in late 2010, paid in full. Immediately removed onstar, wiring and all. After a week he started getting calls from GM about him needing to take his truck in because something was wrong, after multiple calls they admitted that it was because it wouldn't connect with onstar. They moved to threatening to repo it, and void all warranties. He talked to JAG and had them send a letter to GM. A few weeks later he got an official letter that due to removal ofthe onstar system his electrical system would no longer be covered under warranty, and he got I think it was 6 "free oil change vouchers" to apologize for threatening to repo a vehicle he owned free and clear.
@damnwereinatightspot
@damnwereinatightspot 3 месяца назад
That LexixNexis is no joke. Creepy. Wickid indepth medical history too
@thesigmaworkshop
@thesigmaworkshop 3 месяца назад
I remember them from their newspaper/magazine database I used to access using text commands.
@damnwereinatightspot
@damnwereinatightspot 3 месяца назад
and then theres the gps, accelerometer and compass. All can tattle on you. If you wanna go nuts on finding info about your car, find the service manual, about 5000 pages, yes, thousands of pages for one car. If your running apps on the vehicle or on your phone, think about that. Do banking and insurance apps track you....
@thesigmaworkshop
@thesigmaworkshop 3 месяца назад
Sure but with OnStar out of the picture there's no way for GM (and subsequently LexisNexis) to receive vehicle data at least.
@damnwereinatightspot
@damnwereinatightspot 3 месяца назад
Im not convinced of that but I hear you. I dont have the gumption or drive atm to check but... imagin your on a nice drive and your phone is low on battery, you plug you phone into your car's charging system, ie cigeret lighter, now you pull the fuse to the cig/charge port... your phone still works. in this case because ther are aux batts in some modules. Find the batteries, and voltage draw from module, do the math on how long they sys will last on those aux batteries. @@thesigmaworkshop
@damnwereinatightspot
@damnwereinatightspot 3 месяца назад
I recall some famouis person driving off some rural mountain road rolling their vehicle. The police said they were going to check the vehicles computer to determin if the driver was driveing wrecklessy. My ohshit bells were ringing loud. im thinking now the Police/gvt will go back in time to determin if you are a bad guy... now EV have cams watching drivers I wanted to put one of those insurance dongles on one of my cars. But id put it on a car that I use for demolition derbys! Oh and bonous fun fact, if you financed your car, as early as the late 90's your banking contract could, and certainly nowadays, have a section of language that most would inteperate as benine. it wouild say something to do with "electronic." Now repo or reposisioin words will not be found in any reputable finance contract but you might find "electronic" near substituted words for reposession.
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